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>> welcome to al jazeera america. i'm jonathan betz with the headlines. >> in egypt security forces used tear gas and water canons to disperse crowds. a student was killed in the clashes. they protested over 21 women and girls sentenced to up to 11 years in prison. >> afghanistan's president says a young child was killed and two women wounded in an airstrake in southern afghanistan. hamid karzai blames america and said if the attacks continue it gives him more reason to not sign a security agreement with the united states. >> we have been keeping an eye on comet ison. astronomers hoped for a bright
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visible streak across the sti next month. the comet broke apart. an-astro physicist says it's the end for ison. >> black friday is keeping in to thanksgiving. stores are opening early. some stores have been banned from opening. those are the headlines. "consider this" is up next. happy thanksgiving and a happy hanukah from all of us here at al jazeera america. >> every day 22 veterans take
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their lives. despite progress on any given night there are more than 55,000 homeless veterans. "consider this" as families across the country gather to give thanks, are we failing those we should be thankful for. also the hollywood season is big time for hollywood, this time it will not disappoint like "the anchor man 2." what about a personal racetrack acting as a video game. i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this." we begin with men and women in the armed services. for many soldiers returning from combat the war is beginning. from catastrophic injuries to ptsd they return with a host of the issues. suicide rates among military are higher than civilians. it's getting worse.
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what is america doing to help they say serve when they come back from wars. what are the emotional costs of taking care of them. a new book, "they were soldiers how the wounded return from the wars, the untold stories" describes the brutality of war in detail. ann jones is an author and has been in various conflict around the world situations. great to have you here. we talk about war being held. there's rarely a book read that brings it to life. you were with soldiers in afghanistan when they were injured. you went where they were treated, and to germany where they were treated. you saw them in the united states treated at walter reid and what happened after that. what, if anything - some of this is striking. what struck you the most?
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>> it's so efficient. it's an efficient part of the great american war machine. one of the things that surprised me most is what a toll it takes on the doctors and the nurses who attend to the wounded soldiers because, of course, the wounds that the soldiers are receiving, especially in afghanistan, are catastrophic because most of them are caused by explosions. the number of amputations, both legs lost. >> because of all these improvised explosive devices, they end up losing limbs and they are surviving the injuries. in past wars they may not have. they are coming home to live with this and face tremendous rehabilitation work. some are spending two weeks at walter reed.
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we have triple and quadruple amputees trying to rehabilitate at the hospitals. the doctors are asking themselves, you know, are the kids that we are operating on in this condition, saving their lives, will they be glad to be alive when they wake up and see what happens to them? >> in some cases you wrote about mothers who - through the sense i got from reading the book - may have been ambivalent about it themselves. >> and the soldiers. >> happy that their children are alive, but at the same time realising what kind of life they'd leave. >> or as a mother taking charge of her son's rehabilitation. she said, "people expect me to be happy he survived. i think i am, but to tell you the truth, i can't remember what
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happy feels like." >> it's heartbreaking to read. your heart goes to the parent and soldiers. you address the psychological issues, even in cases where injuries may not be as severe as those. for the soldier and the family. >> the ptsd, the sense of betrayal that a lot of soldiers feel, because they realise the wars are not about defending freedom, they are disillusioned by the nature of the battles they've been september into. that takes a mental toll, and the traumatic brain injuries, and the soldiers suffering from the injuries can't be properly evaluated because they have physical injuries at the same time that take precedence. you have to heal the body first and by the time they get around
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to diagnose what is wrong with the soldier psychologically or what brain damage he has, it's impossible to tell. >> again, they deserve every penny spent on them to rehabilitate them and take care of them. when you look at the financial costs, they are tremendous. disability programs are almost $60 million, almost the full annual appropriation for the education - billion, i mean, i missuppose. >> estimated to peak not until midcentury, because the soldiers who are critically wounded are young. we will have to continue to care for them for decades. and the even cost will be in the trillions. >> talking millions, but substantial in mental health professionals hired to help with
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suicide problems. $83 million - it's a tremendous cost on so many different levels. many americans don't realise how the injury of one soldiers impacts the whole family, and that impacts the community. the medical person too, the emergency doctors that have been called out of emergency rooms in the united states to attend to soldiers who have been injured in the field, and bring them home. those doctors would say to me in my community, the emergency room is health care for a lot of our citizens. when i'm gone taking care of the soldiers, my colleagues are doing double duty taking care of those people at home. >> you mostly speak about men getting injured and coming home and the women taking care of them. women are getting injured in
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greater numbers. what did you see with women? >> the same situation. they would come home. in many cases the va is so far behind. >> you are critical of the va. >> well, we have to recognise that when the soldiers started coming home from these wars, the va was full of soldiers from past wars. so they had to immediately expand to try to take care of these soldiers and they've been playing catch up ever since, and they have never caught up. >> did you see any positives? >> well, on an individual basis, of course. you see the incredible courage of the terribly injured soldiers trying to regain some kind of a life. you see the courage of family members who are trying to save them and bring them back into
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some sort of life. but the overall tragedy remains, you know. americans like stories of heap endings and like to think the critically wounded who survive - well, that's a happy ending. well, the soldier is still critically wounded and still will be in the care of his family and the rest of us for the rest of his life. not a very happy story. >> it's a powerful book and brings home the terrible cost of war. ann jones, thank you. the book is they were soldiers. >> coming up you may remember what happened after michael dukakis went for a ride in a tank. we'll explain the biggest
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blunder in military issues. and we have social issues coming up with harmeli aregawi. >> join in the conversation on facebook and twitter.
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>> nothing brings a lofty presidential candidate back to
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earth than a disastrous campaign. >> we are going to california, and texas, and new york, and we'll go to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington... >> howard dean's primal clean in the 2004 primaries to mitt romney killing chances that he can't worry about 47% of voters that would not vote for him. the one with the greatest consequence happened to michael dukakis. he led president bush. it had slipped by labour day. in an attempt to shore up a weakness on defense his campaign decided to put him in a tank. with the national media watching it backfired. bush won all but 10 stakes.
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who let this happen. josh king was a young staffer on the dukakis, he's a host and writes about the disaster >> you were not the one that let it happened. >> no, i did not. a friend of mine was there. >> he had reservations. >> they used everything. trying to wave off this thing happening. it had a momentum of its own, born from a desire of the dukakis to defeat its own weaknesses which is a perception that dukakis, being a strong commander in chief. they took it head on and do
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three days of event focused on national security, culminating in a tank ride. >> very clickly it was evident it was a disaster - not quickly, it was immediately. my old front sam donaldson was there. >> let's say the first 24 hours is not a problem. sam donaldson, chris walters, and others do packages. the 2.5 minute packages are straight. the former white house secretary on the plane as dukakis's substantiate secretary is told by field producers, you have to do more of this, you are figuring out hue regan does it >> didn't donaldson crack up. >> it's self-contained.
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no one was tweeting. they are doing packages for the evening news. the next day the bernard from the "new york times" and others wrote that it was a little ramboish. carson picked up on this and the bush campaign says, "we might have something." let's get vice president bush to say he's had a battlefield onversion in the tank. the following weekend the polls come in. there's more water cooler chatter. evans and novak, ininfluential column. by monday they are making fun of him. it wasn't until the advertisement was made before it sinks into the national consciousness. >> let's have a look. it happened a few weeks later, and ran through the world series. >> michael dukakis opposed practically every defense system. new aircraft carriers,
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anti-satellite weapons, he opposed missile systems, dukakis opposed the stealth bomber, ground emergency warning system against attack and questioned the strike on libya - now he wants to be our commander-in-chief. america can't afford that risk. >> the goofy smil with the hat overwhelming his face. it was an image that the americans couldn't resist. 25% of americans said that alone would stop them. >> this is a poll coming in a week later. finally it sinks in about a week later. the hat is fascinating. it's only using 11 seconds of footage that are acquired on the supply by seg rogic.
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it's looped. >> we didn't show all of it. they do a list of the military programs opposed. bush wiped out dukakis's big lead. do you think bush would have won any? or this was decisive. >> i think bush was headed towards victory. dukakis misplayed the summer after a successful convention in atlanta. he basically goes under ground, back to massachusetts, and becomes governor of the commonwealth. meantime it the republicans defined him negatively, and create the willie horton adds by the campaign and independent. >> making him look soft on crime. >> but there's three other things. steve sims suggest that kitty
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dukakis as involved in a flag burning. ronald reagan quips he's not going to pick on an invalid when it was ask whether dukakis was treated for depression. dukakis veetos a pledge of alliance law. >> and he didn't react passionately to a question of what he would do if his wife was attacked? >> that was october 13th. that was the nail in the coffin. all of these things was a democratic campaign at a high in july. >> let's go back to the helmet, the hat. you mentioned in the film and your article, that there is an unspoken rule, not even unspoken that candidates should not wear hats. and president obama mentioned it on receiving a football helmet
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from the navy team. >> pretty sharp. all right. there's a general rule, you don't put stuff on your head in you're president. that's politics 101. you never look good wearing something on your head >> that applies to presidential candidates. why did he do it. it's not just him. candidates have kept doing it since. >> it goes back to 1977, calvin coolag, had a headdress. jack kennedy thought he looked good without a hat. i was trained as an advance person and the first question was never put a hat on the candidate's head. >> there were two reasons he had to wear a hat.
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he was at 40 miles per hour in a tank. if anything happens, this is the democratic candidate for president of the united states. he has to follow the safety protocol. he's a cruel followers much reason number two is he's been given a tour of the tanks capabilities by gordon england, vice president, riding shotgun with him in the tank. it's a loud jet tur bin engine. he couldn't here anything. it would be a shah aid. dukakis, he really wanted to understand things. he didn't do it for the photo op, he wanted to understand the conventional weapons system. he wanted to increase investment in conventional weaponry. >> again, this was - it's a famous moment in american history. michael bennett, keeps the suit, dukakis, and tried to give it to
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the smithsonian. they didn't take it? >> to listen to matt bennett he said he calls them up and said all you have to say it's from the bennett collection. never got a call back. i suspect with some of the publicity, a call might be made. there's another important prop in someone else's prop. the helmet. >> it was brought back in the duke plane to the headquarters of their campaign. it was given to the vice chairman of the campaign. according to three sources it sits within john's possession. >> apologise to matt bennett for calling him michael. a further question - in today's 24 hour news cycle. you mentioned twitter and facebook. things will get out there. do you think this would have cycled through quickly and it would have gone away? >> all the noise and current
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campaign dissipates 12-24 hours after it happens. >> the dukakis event probably wouldn't have happened. it was the only image that went viral. these days everything is viral so everything becomes a blur. what happens on tuesday is forgotten on thursday. it takes an event like that to break through, evolving and developing nar mfi, that he is a person that might say that. it's a weird piece of video, that it sticks. >> there's a back story. so much noise in the room. thousands of people. the only microphone is the one that dean is holding. he has to scream to here himself
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talk. millions of people watching, they only hear the guy screaming, and he's trying to project to 3,000 people in the room. >> politician u.s. thank us for being here, josh. >> time to see what is trending on al jazeera's website. let's check in with herg. >> a complaint was filed saying that police were driving homeless people out of detroit, dropping them up miles away. there are suggestions that this is happening. charles johns said police drove him 20 miles away and left him on the side of the freeway. they said: >> a similar tale from another homeless man, 52-year-old tony
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maka do, saying police made him throw his coins? a sewer. two more victims say the same handful of officers were involved. detroit police department said because of ongoing investigation they have no comment. share your thoughts on the story on twitter or facebook page. read more on the website >> straight ahead after another strong year at the box office hollywood looks to finish with a strong season. what are some of the high-tech toys you should be looking for. here is a hint - one of them might be watching you.
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>> the holidays mean the gift of cheer and movies. "anchor man 2" is one of several highly anticipated to open in the coming weeks.
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bill wyman joins us. he's our al jazeera culture critic. and turner classics host frank mankiewicz joins us from los angeles, and is the host of "what the flick." good to have you back. bill, some of the biggest movies come at the end of the year. we are seeing a smash hit with "hunger game - catching fire", that'll be a hit. what other blockbusters? >> the sequel to the hob it "the deslation of fog", it ended with a dragon in the their. lee comes out of highing. on the other hand the hob it didn't do as well as i think. i think at the end of the year you see "the hunger games" and "the hob it" after "ironman 3." >> holidays are a big time for
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families to go to the movies. what are the best choices. i'm not sure that anyone remembers what happened at the end of the hob it. maybe i'm wrong. i works no, you tell me. frozen is a wonderful film. i have the standard for a kids movie, as to whether the adults can tolerate it. not only can they tolerate it, they can enjoy it. it could be a date night movie. it's an animated musical. 3d is terrific. it's a sweet story about sisters. >> that's cute. what about "walking with dino saurs 3d" that looks like what i'd go to. >> that looks like a mice movie. the other thing about "frozen",
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it could be a sleeper hit. the family movie is "saving mr banks", tying into disney and mary poppins, is story about how walt disney convinced the creator to do what he did. >> it's a disney movie about mary poppins, will it appeal to kids. >> it's designed to be a heart-warming field. people talk about tom hanks is a good perform as walt disney. >> i saw mr banks on the disney lot and had to walk. >> did you walk out with mouse ears? >> as you go through you are going, "i can see where this is going." hollywood likes to make movies about hollywood. like "argos."
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you know you are being manipulated by the music. there are so many things. nonetheless at the end of that movie i look around and how many people see me wipe buckets of tears from my eye. tom hanks is great and ava thomp son. i was surprised how much i liked it. >> on a different theme, we have got something based on an lannkston hughes poem. >> the woman what directed it directed another movie. it's rare to have female directors and rarer still to have african-directors. it's a classic play written on a lot of traditional christmas tales. it has a killer cast. if it's marketed right it may be significant film. >> talking about prestige films,
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what has the biggest oscar buzz at the moment of the end of the year movies? >> i'll answer that. i have to piggyback on something bill said. the director played in "silence of lambs", clarees starling's partner. i had no idea. i find that cool that the two actresses had both gone on to become successful directors. ardilia was the name in the movie, a piece of trivia. oscar buzz - there's a lot of it. some came - i am sure you'll see some nominations for movie and best actor. movies coming out. scors has a movie coming out, the wolf of wall street with d. >> -- d.
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>> caprio. two of my co-hosts saw the american hustler. everyone came out of that talking there's no better director or actors. and everybody gives a terrific performance. >> that includes jennifer lawrence. is she becoming the star of the moment. >> semi is. she's one of these stars. a lot of stars - you think of a bruce willis. i think he sort of pioneered a thing of being an action star and doing quirky movies, she's doing that from an early age. winter's bone she was terrific in. she was in american hustler and the hunger games. if she keeps up this career, she can get through those moves, she'll be an interesting figure, a robert downy junior, doing blockbusters but has indy
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credibility. >> two other figures, "august county", that won a tony. that's an oscar contender. >> definitely. it has merrill streep. these picked up one or two nominations >> and julia roberts. >> it has an impressive cast this that movie. i don't know if you guys watch homeland, but the guy plays the cann i'ving senator. >> the future head of the c.i.a. . >> i don't like that guy. >> what an enormously talented guy he is. >> another area of the oscars. the drama-comedies. "the secret life of walt e mitty", a remake of the 1947
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movie, starring ben stiller, kristin whiching. pat oswald. he's funny. he's a talented actor. this has good buzz. some are bored by it. others think it's one of the best movies of the year. also this that dram-edy is a telewrite movie, alexander pain's nebraska. >> we have the cohen brothers with, "inside leeuwin davis". >> i'm looking forward to it. it looks neat and textually it looks a little unusual for the cohen brothers. i have to second what was said about "nebraska", it's interesting. i was thinking it was a rough first act. the second is terrific, interesting, unusual portion of america, and boy i
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hope bruce stern gets an oscar nomination. >> jack nicholson submitted for the park. bruce stern knocks it out of the park. >> let's talk about comedies. one, i suspect i won't be a fan of "anchor man 2." >> that is a movie i didn't hear anyone clamouring for. we'll see if i was wrong. >> i don't know if you were right. you should talk to the staff, i think they all want an "anchorman 2". >> the marketing is pervasive and annoying. >> you know, anchor man was an interesting movie. i couldn't have laughed harder when it came out. i felt alone. i must have seen it 20 times. i like the others -- >> you probably are very alone. >> you have people on your staff.
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this is a movie that i missed. my brother was a correspond for dateline. he hates it, couldn't hate it more. i think it is one of the 10 funniest movies. >> i'm not sure i'll have you back as a movie critic. >> i could go now. >> let's talk other comities. tayler perry. >> he'll never get the critical response he wants. he doesn't have to worry. he made more than a dozen movies, they average $50 million. they don't cost very much to make. there has been a lot of black-theme movies. the best man holiday, that's a minor hit. that will be a hit. and black nativity. we'll see an unusual cluster at the end of the year and see which crosses over. i don't think it the be the tyler perry. >> gruj match. is that worth mentioning?
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>> yes. i'm sort of looking forward to gruj match ii. if it's good there'll be a grudge match ii. i love comedy, and i love them, you know, when they are good and for grown-ups. my fingers are always crossed in that record. too often comedies seem aimed at 14, 15, 16-year-olds. i was not my funniest when i was 14, 15 or 16. i like the idea of adult comdid i say, when they are good they are great. when not they are horrible. >> and sly stawell own's career is going. he starred in "grudge match", he wrote "home front", how good is that. >> i don't know much about home front. it's interesting that sylvester stawell own wrote "rocky." the
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other interesting one a keanu reeves movie. "47 ronan", they have a lot of resonance with japanese theatre. it's a classic japanese story about someone whose honour is slain and 47 guys practice for two years to avenge the death. it's got a first-time director. into let me jump in about home front. re reviewed it today. what is interesting about home front, a jason stadler movie, kate hudson and wynona ryder. stawell own intended it to be the next chapter in the john rambo story. and they backed off and recast
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jason in the role. the consensus was that it might have been better if it had stayed as a rambo movie because we would have had the back story and identification. >> great to have you both. great to have you both with us. there are more movies. i hope you work on your taste in comedies. >> you missed it on anchor man, you have to give it another shot. >> i'll try. straight ahead - are black friday bargains not all they are cracked up to be. surprising numbers next.
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>> today's data dive delves into black friday dynamics, i'm not sure you'll get in line for the door buster deals. research looked at 31 major retail stores, and found they are not giving you more for less despite the adds telling you they are. they increased the number of the deals by 63% from twin, 2012. the research also found that the average supposed discount jumped by 11 percentage points. even though they say they are practically giving things away their bottom line is the same. the cross margins are flat. why, the walt journal detailed the reason. it's high-low pricing. rely tailers are marking up from
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wholesale more than we realised r realise. retailers mark down the price, generating excitement with supposed discount. the final mark down still turns a pretty penny in profit for the retailer. they make you think they are paying less, the truth is you are not. the average prices hasn't changed much in a decade. a financial webb side scanned 25 black friday ads finding out but two were selling for the same price. from game controllers to sewing machines. the price was so beatable last year they couldn't bet it in year. all the spending is giving the holiday period stress. a third of married couples lie about how much they spend. we guess there would be more fights in they didn't fib.
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stay home with your families instead of rushing to the stores. i hope my wife is listening. if you must spend. we must show you cool technology. including a drone.
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next. >> americans are shifting their focus from thanksgiving to holiday shopping. a lot of them will spend money on new technology. a survey shows shoppers will spend half of their gift-giving budget on consumer electronics. some of what they are looking at is crazy. you can buy a drone for that special someone. let's get a run down of the best
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technology with katy linendoll. 40% want tablets and smartphones and will buy for others. >> $738 billion to be spent in holiday sales. coming from electronics and gadgets. tablets and smartphones are the obvious. another year is the race between apple and samsung. all the big companies wants to piece of pie. nokia wants a piece of pie. a lot to be made with tablets and smartphones. this is the ipad mini combined. >> t this is nice, i travel with this. it's a cool case. you have the blue tooth
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capabilities, it's been accessories. >> and the fact that you could use it. that makes it incredibly easy. >> fun for kids and adults. >> this is a race track. we'll meet with steve here. i'll have you take the controller via the iphone. this is awesome technology, this was is apple event, ww d.c., bringing the video game. they are on a smart track. you control it with the iphone. you are turbo boosting. you can slow down, speed up and use the iphone to control. i just move the iphone like this. >> actually. grip it like a controller. >> you guide it this way, but accelerate or slow it down and use this to shoot. the more you use weaponry the
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more it evolves. it's amazing how many robotics and engineering minds are behind the product. the cars - they had a hollywood car creator building the units. >> i seem to be missing a lolt. >> get up there and fire. there you go. >> how much does it cost? >> $200 at apple stores, specifically for iowa. >> not cheap, but you can move it an around. >> it's a huge difference. i used to push a car down the track for ages. >> one thing that has been popular are the go pro cameras that you can use out there when you move around and it's easy to shoot. garmin is getting into the business. >> there is competition in the marketplace. this is a gar min verb, 16 megapixels. three hours of record time.
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one option that i love underwater. you have underwater housing. i took this to the islands for a shoot. the underwater footage, you go 164 feet. brilliant and superior quality. >> that far underwater and you get beautiful pictures. >> how - con -- can you mount this on your wrist. >> you record with the touch of a button. there's an lce screen. exactly to your point, there's different mounts. whether you are biking, underwater. take advantage of a camera taking it easy. garmin verb and elite. >> it's light. you could attach it. if you play tennis you could use it. >> exactly. >> amazing. these are not your graf's earphones. >> no, i get people obsessed with blue tune headphones.
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i have so many technologies, i have one head phone that i love. it's less expensive. these are $79.99, hmdx. they are jam fusion. they are portable. i use them to work out every day. bluetooth technology and fusion, if you have two pairs of these you can use a splitter and connect and share music. >> easier to carry, and you have your phone transmitting the music. >> expensive with smartphones and tablets, if you look to get the gift it's a little less expensive. >> you have different ear phones that have an added advantage. >> i love stuff like this. earmuffs that are blue tooths, if you are not tech savvy, one touch of a button. you can make calls.
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a lot of times we are outside and we sacrifice. it's cold, but we want the headphones on. >> bluetooth. you can have the player in the pocket, it will send the music to the ear phones. the earmuff, ear phones and the jam, they have the ability to talk through them. >> take that call, absolutely. >> you can listen to music, a phone call comes in. >> no excuses not to pick up my mine. >> these are $99. >> $80. >> wow, not bad deals. >> and the prices of these. the mini? >> $399. >> this is the ipad air. >> $499. >> and the microsoft mini computer. >> there's $499 that's the typical price point.
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we are having higher ticket items, but they are used as a go to device. >> that's is not much higher tick et, just a hire concept. >> this is a drone, the 2.0. this is an upgraded model. 500,000 have been sold. there are two cameras in the system. >> hd cameras. >> amazing. it goes up to 400 feet in the air with the wi-fi on. you can take it to geographical places you couldn't get to. i'm sending this baby aerial. do you know how much this would have cost. this is incredible technology. if it crashed there's an app to
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unwrangle it. >> there's racing apps, augmented. we are flying the device in australian augmented scenario. >> you are controlling it from the device. >> there's a bevy of both options. >> incredibly the price for this is $299. >> it's noted that half a million of these units had sold. pretty remarkable. >> it's a big upgrade. >> we are talking upgraded technology. >> what would play with it. something that kids will? >> everybody will. >> trust me. >> probably not the best place to go. we headed out to central park. typically on a helicopter you would have had half. adventurists, hobbyists.
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>> of all the stuff if you had to pick one, which would be the favourite? >> i go with the garmin verb. i had an amazing dive. the footage i got, the saturation and colour was beautiful. this is my new technology. >> it's cool. will you leave these for me. >> all yours. tech the hauls. >> i'll call you pinocchio from now on. i wish you were leaving them. great to have you here. steve, thank you for your help. it's fantastic. i hope some of that is under my tree. the show may be over the the conversation continues on the website. you can find us on twitter, facebook and google+. see you next time.
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>> hello, welcome to al jazeera america. i'm jonathan betz live in new york. working holiday. it's happening more than ever. the pressure it puts on families and why parents volunteer to do it any. plus... >> macey stores open for the first time in 155 years and shoppers are pouring in. >> behind bars - why egypt says two dozen young women are a threat to the government and the outrage it's causing on cairo streets. talks of complaints ignored, and how rain may


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