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satirical white wing character from the colbert report. i am richelle carey. "consider this" and antonio morrow is up next. hit the latest news at aljazeera.com. >> obamacare claims its highest ranking career casualty. we look at what kathleen sebelius's resignation means. >> vladimir putin launches a war of word with europe. but the europe and germany night back. >> a shocking treatment for back pain, one way scientists are battling paralysis. >> the announcement of david letterman's replacement is not leaving some conservativists laughing. >> hello, i'm antonio mora, and this is "consider this". here is more of what is ahead.
>> the health and community services secretary kathleen sebelius is resigning. >> this comes after the miserable rollout to obamacare. >> we condemn russia four using energy as a tool of collusion. >> russia must de-escalate the situation. >> putin is a tough guy with a thin skin. >> the trial of our colleagues three journalists have been adjourned again. >> the prosecution case holds little water. there's nothing of substance. >> al jazeera rejects the charges and continues to demand their immediate release. >> researchers at louisville say four paralyzed patients have regained control over certain muscles in their legs. >> you forget how tall you are. >> doctors said they'd never be able to walk again. >> we begin with the resignation of health and human secretary
services kathleen sebelius. she's leaving after five years on the job, but will be remembered for the disastrous roll out of the obamacare website that has brought considerable political damage to the white house. >> the only thing i can conclude is that it's impossible to do assist in this administration that gets you fired. >> the timing of her departure as enrolment in the hare exchange surpasses 7.5 million, indicates a push by the administration to get beyond the troubles. kathleen sebelius made the decision to resign, and was not forced out. >> we are joined by al jazeera's white house correspondent mike viqueira. there were a lot of calls for her head to role when the website crashed and burnt. why is this happening now? >> interestingly, i think the reason it didn't happen before is because there was so many calls, and if the resignation or the firing, as the case may be during that time, would have made the administration look
equal and exacerbated the significant political and public problems that they have. now there's a woint of opportunity, coming off the good news. the president in the rose garden, after the enrolment period ended, dollar 7.1 million to sign up. many have not paid their premiums. it was good news. they hit the target of 7 million, so kathleen sebelius had the window where she could leave. after five years, she had a long and distinguished career as the governor of kansas. five years as the hhs secretary. it was the last six or seven months that will define the term. she, herself, in testimony before congress at the height of the heathcare.gov roll out. she called it a debacle. she'll appear with the president here in the rose garden at the white house with her successor
sylvia mathews burwell, who heads the office of management and budget. >> i want to get to sylvia mathews burwell in a minute. she said in an interview on thursday, that she knew she wouldn't be there to turn out the light in 2017. is this a move to get away from anyone associated with obamacare's problems. the president didn't have her at the roz garden ceremony. the day the obamacare sign-up ended. >> that's the point. she was conspicuous in her absence. she was not standing next to the president, and conspicuous in that the president had shout-outs to everyone that contributed to the unexpected success. except kathleen sebelius. i think there was some frustration, there's no question about it, not only among staff at the white house, but members of congress on capitol hill. and that is very significant. as you know, this is an election year for every member of the house of representatives, more than a third of the senate, the
democrats stand to lose control, if things condition as they have been. they obviously have taken a political hit. there was desire on the part of leading senator to see a change, something they could point to on top of the good news that they had, and helpfully turn the corner on obamacare, and healthcare.gov. >> luther burrell -- sylvia mathews burwell, the replacement. with the politics, will confirmation be different? >> well, we have seen tweets from leading republicans, john mccain, saying it was a good choice, and tweets that have not been received from the white house. one from the senator in the house saying should we celebrate with a red cello cup or glassware, the departure of kathleen sebelius. as far as the senate is concerned, it will be a welcome move.
you are correct in that republicans never miss an opportunity to bash obamacare, the affordable care act, this is something they continue to believe is a political winner for them. as we mentioned it's a political year and an election year in congress. the smart money would have her confirm nonetheless. big developments at the white house. >> now to a miserable day on wall street. the tech-heavy naz deck plunged 230 points. the dow jones plummeted 277 points. that's 1.62%, and the s&p 500 lost 39 points. more than 2%. to make sense of this and what it means to you here is ali velshi. good to have you with us. the worst day sips late 2011 by the naz tack.
biotech and social media led the way. >> we had a better year for stocks in 2013. a lot of the tech names were triple-digit gainers. what happened is you have momentum in the stocks. they are not matched by the earnings. they are - players like facebook, amazon, netflix and others that have been running strong, and now you have people worried that the economy seems to berecovering. the fed says interest rates might go up. there's less room to play in the high-tech speculative stocks. people move into things that are secure. people say "you know what, maybe it's time to get out while we wait to see what happens." >> how much should we worry. >> if you are not heavily invested in speculative stocks. don't worry. the nasdaq is down 2.8. the s and p is off 0.8 of a
percement. if you are diversified. you are not seeing the momentum play. >> if you want to be reminded about what this means, go back to the 2000s. that makes me scared. >> you should be scared of things you don't understand. stocks which do not have earnings reflecting their prices. there's a price to earnings ratio. most of the companies that took a drubbing do not have earnings to support prices. people are moving out of these things into quality stocks. that's what you do. >> do we have to worry about world issues. we'll talk about ukraine and russia, and problems in chine ape. >> this is the first time in five years that geopolitics is affecting staff. ukraine and russia - russia might be in a session this year. that'll affect europe. europe has slow growth.
china will grow 7.5%. we have numbers from march showing that things may be slower than we expect. 7.5% is double the rate of growth in the united states. china has issues it needs to deal with. it needs a fast-growing economy. same in india, they are in elections, but dropped growth and are in the 5s now. the developing world and emerging markets are most of the world's growth. as they slow down, by design it will slow things down. >> we have to pay attention to the rest of the world. if i'm a glass half full, the dow is off a couple of percentage points. i have the glass half empty. we have not seen a correction in a few years, and the market dropping by 10%. this would be a good time to study the markets, if you have a 401 k. just know what you might do. there might be opportunities to buy and sell high fliers.
>> good advice. it's good of you to join us. thanks. >> now to the crisis in ukraine. german german chancellor angela merkel called on vladimir putin to call back the tanks, jet fighters and troops sitting on the border of ukraine, or russia will face another round of tougher sanction, the warping after vladimir putin fired off a letter to 18 world leaders, threatening to turn off russian gas to ukraine unless the country pays what it owes them. gas dollars can be gepp dived. >> putin says the european union helped to create the crisis in ukraine. the squeeze play comes as pro-russian separatists refuse to surrender control of offices in eastern ukraine despite a deadline to do so. for more we are joined from the washington d.c. studio, formerly
chief economic advisor to russian president, and served as vladimir putin's representative to the g8. andre illarionov, good to have you with us. angela merkel, and the president spoke on the phone on thursday and threatened tougher sanctions if russia doesn't pull back their troops. how much does it affect putin? >> i don't think it affects putin in a serious way. it does not look like in putin is going to use troops in the future. these letters that have been mentioned, it's a good indication of positive signs over the last few days. these letter shows three positive signs. first, that probably there'll be no direct military intervention,
at least in the future. it's hard to have negotiations about gas prices if, at the same time you are invading a country. second, it's a sign of looks like abandoning the separatists in south and east part of ukraine. and, third, it is de facto recognition of authorities in kiev. vladimir putin directly calls for negotiations with those authorities. the fact that he refused to accept for number of weeks. this is a positive sign, but the results are negative. >> that is something he refused to recognise. so at least we have progress there. pro-russian protesters are not giving you have eastern ukraine, despite the friday deadline. and analysts say that vladimir putin does want chaos and destabilize i suggest in eastern ukraine, and not an invasion, despite the drops capable of invasion and at high readiness.
you think this is a big sign. in the past you said western leaders have forgotten that other leaders do want to conquer other countries. >> to conquer the country the ta tart is the same. to conquer the country it's possible to do it with intimidation, bribing, threats to attack and we attempt to put a leader at the head of ukraine. this is what mr vladimir putin is doing now. it was quite clear that for him, conquering with military, ukraine would be difficult, almost impossible. it would be much easier less costly and in his style as an officer of special services.
he's doing pretty well right now. >> you are talking about him being kgb and a high officer in the kgb. trying to do it in a sneaky way. >> his style is a different style of officer from special - special services. it's not a style of army officer. on attack is full military mite. it's not a style that he applies in eastern and south ukraine, or that he applies to put his person, vladimir putin's person as a president or prime minister or both in ukraine. >> this is creating a situation economically. we mentioned that the russian economy could be close to recession, the drank is saying
64 billion in assets fled the country in the first three months of the year and more of that is coming. won't this all hurt him? at some point won't his popularity, which soared as a result of what he did in crimea, won't it drop if the economy gets worst. >> first of all, i need to say technically russian industry is already in recession. from july last year, it's a negativary growth rate. so technically it's not six months to claim that there's already a recession. this is the one part. the second part, whether these recession - industrial and probably g.d.p. resession, within a few months, would lead mr vladimir putin to change his
mind. i can tell you straight away, no. this is incomparable things. getting crimea to annex crimea, and to some - to enjoy rise of popularity, on this side is to get control over ukraine. regardless of what economic problems he would have at home. and you need to remember the soviet union was an isolated country, with a lot of economic hardships, with a low living standards of people, sometimes falling down for a long time. it did not change the soviet regime. that's why we say for a long time, countries like russia, diversified could apply serious sanctions. we should remember that iraq,
iran and north korea was able to with stand sanctions for a long time. russia is richer and much more diversified economy than those countries. >> andre illarionov, thank you for your insights. interesting. appreciate your time. >> coming up, women in afghanistan struggled for basic human right for decades. political changes are raising concerns. a leading female voice from the afghan government will join us. >> al jazeera journalists in prison in egypt faced a day in court, leading to another day in court. we'll explain. what do you think. join the conversation:
>> women have made great strides in afghanistan gan society. many feel it could slip away because afghanistan is at a crossroads. as the votes are counted, the future of the country is uncertain. a bilateral agreement is yet to be signed by the government. security concerns are mounting sips the possible taliban resurgence and women fear losing rights and freedoms they fought so hard to gain. i had a chance to speak to fawzia koofi, an extraordinary leader in a country where years ago women
were shunned from public life and girls barred from school. she is a member of the parliament, and the first elected to be the deputy speaker of the assembly. she is making life better for her own two daughters, and girls and boys. she's the author of the book "the favoured daughter." >> afghanistan has almost a contradictory record on women's rights. you are a member of the parliament. 25% of the seats are reserved for women. giving them better representation than in the u.k. and the united states. girls are still harassed and abused by the taliban from going to school. how repressive does afghan society remain towards women? >> thank you. if you compare nowadays situation with the taliban regime or ruling time, i can say
it's almost an opportunity, golden opportunity for women of afghanistan. we have had progress in many arena. we have almost 27 women participation in the parliament. >> but in the meantime. huge majority of women in afghanistan are separating from different kind of violence, including domestic violence and security. threats by taliban. we had an address. it's a lack of proper or strong rule of law to put on trial the traitors. above all i think the main worry now is for 2014. luckily we have had wonderful elizabeths and just last week - and woman participation in that
election was extraordinarily, but i think the main concern now is the 2014 withdrawal of international community because it's more difficult for a woman activist to work. there are certain extremist elements that would like to adopt a new situation. perhaps a return of taliban back to power, so the extremism within parliament and outside parliament have become more cautious, to prepare themselves for the new situation. therefore it has become more difficult for a woman, and that's the main concern we have, if international community leaves, i think women rights would be one of the first to sacrifice. >> do you think that could happen, that things will change for the worse, because the afghan government has not signed a bilateral agreement. the expectation is that that was an issue for hamid karzai, and who have was finally elected in
this process will be more open to signing the agreement and keeping american and n.a.t.o. forces there. >> we are hoping, and as the presidential candidates clearly announced during the campaigns, that one of the first things they will do, at least for the frontrunners to sign the bilateral security agreement. we hope they keep their promise. signing of the bsa does not only help in terms of planning for security, but also the bigger message it gives to the neighbouring countries, to those who would like to influence the situation, particularly to the women of afghanistan, the bigger message it gives is that afghanistan will not be abandoned by the international security. it will help the situation of every citizen in afghanistan, and the wolan that connected with international community presence. >> and do you think the election will end up helping or hurting
women, because as we have seen over the past 10 years, hamid karzai is married to someone that used to be a practicing gynecologist, and slee hasn't been seen in an event in 10 years. now there were a number of candidates and one of them ever had his wife out in public. >> that's true. absolutely. i usually used to say our leaders want democracy for their neighbours, not themselves. it's easy to talk about women's rights, but without bringing their own wives as role models, the question remains how committed these leaders are in terms of women's rights. overall, i think, women turn out in the elections was a clear sign that women in afghanistan were a reliable political partner, not just something that takes care, but someone that relies, because even in the
remote areas, women call out to vote. they have increased. they cannot be ignored by a government or group. i'm hopeful the election it might result in a bitter election, elections are a no to extremism, and a sign of democracy. people of afghanistan - there must be ug support, but now, of course, we have to wait. a lot is still to come in terms of the results whether the results will be acceptable by the loser can't dads, in fact, so, therefore, i think the solution would be for the leading candidate to sit and make a coalition named government because that's how they can prevent further conflict and the very fragile
stability in afghanistan because at the end of the day the people in afghanistan, and the women in afghanistan will be affected by any kind of insecurity and instability. >> it's not just women participating by voting, but also as candidate. you wanted to run for president, but you were months short of the minimum age. a number of others were on the ballot. including 300 ballots on the provincial seats. with that presence are you concerned that the gains in women's right could be reversed. >> comparing to the past elections, in terms of woman running, unfortunately we didn't have a woman running in the ticket,like as a - as a candidate itself. there was woman in the vice president, and in some of the provinces there was a number of women oning for provincial
council was less than in 2009. you can see the signs of less participation by women in some of the provinces. i think, as i said before, it has become more difficult for a woman activist in the parliament. there are certain extremism parliamentarians that are more open mouthed when it comes to the woman issues. it has become more difficult. in 2013, was not a good legislative ear for a woman. the war was blocked by an extreme figure. it's one of an important lose. and in electoral law. they reduce the number of - the percentage of woman participation in the provincial councils from 25% to 20%, which is, again, a sign of backwording. i think overall, the mood - the
momentum by woman is there, and i think we will not get to the zero point, because the society transferred people of afghanistan, women themselves, the media plays an important role in terms of the transformation. they'll put a hand together to prevent a woman from going to the zero point. if the security situation deteriorates, if the international community withdraws without putting a proper end to the war, i think there are major concerns that we will lose the fragile canes we have had for the woman's rights. >> i know you have spoken about woman's microphones, how they have been cut off, and you fear for your life because of how outspoken you are. i wish you the best of luck with your effort. it's a pleasure to have you on our show. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> turning to egypt. the trial of three imprisoned al
jazeera journalists resumed on thursday. correspondent peter greste, and producers mohamed fadel fahmy, and mohammed badr appeared in court in a cage. it's the fifth time they appeared to court before a jum. the case was adjourned until april 22nd after the judge dismissed what little evidence was produced. monday marked the 100th day that the three journalists spent behind bars. al jazeera rejects the charges and continues to demand the release of its staff. joining us now is sherif mansour, the middle east and northern africa program coordinator for protecting journalists and a cofounder of change, mobilizing egyptians in the u.s. to support democracy and human rites. you had to deal yourself with
the egyptian justice system, you were convicted of allegedly illegally helping pro-democracy causes in egypt. >> is this case of the al jazeera journalist a situation where the government wants to intimidate journalists? >> absolutely. i saw a lot of parallels to what happened to al jazeera, to what happened in our case. the government, basically, are trying to veilify every international actor who are willing to help local journalists, local njos and defenders, to have a clear hand to do whatever they want. and also bring back hosni mubarak, and instill fear in the population, so they can basically escape accountability to what is happening inside the country. the law hostly is remaining from
mubarak era. it allows a lot of control from the government on the judges. even --. >> so that's the question. what is the situation with the judiciary. in this case what we saw on thursday is that they - the prosecutors presented evidence which is absolutely ridiculous. there's no other way of putting it. it was film that had been taken that was nothing to do with al jazeera. it had nothing to do with egypt, and the judge dismissed it as not being relevant, but the judge would not grant bail to let the journalists leave the prison that they'd been in for more than 100 days. >> this is the ridiculousness. in the absence of rule of law. the government claims to have evidence. in our case there was nothing. no evidence at all presented. and our indictment was because we were implementing u.s. soft colonisation plan.
and this shows you how much the system allows for this kind of politically motivated trials to go and proceed. and to have people indicted without any evidence. in this case the evidence is actually helpful for journalists, because it shows that the journalists have their own credentials, and they've been doing nothing other than journalism. a defense lawyer said after today's hearing that this is ruining egypt's international image, does the government care. >> parts of the government cared and we have seen the prime minister, the temporary president and the minister of foreign invest. have all said positive promise about the need to resolve this case, and the need that it was a mistake from the beginning to
start it. there are parts of the government who do not care, the security apparatus. some of the corrupt members who contrary left about what the commercial world has to say. >> is the national movement to help out the journalists and calling for their freedom. is it having any effect. >> it altered and there's some improvement in the imprisonment situation. >> because the conditions have been pretty miserable. >> yes. we have seen how - there's another al jazeera journalist, al jazeera arabic who has been in prison longer, and has been on a hunger strike, and we heard from peter greste's parents that they were not allowed to have reading material. they were reading food labels. >> they were in console tri confinement for three months, and they moved them to a better
facility instead of a harsh egyptian prison. that is on outcome showing that they are paying attention to what the people are saying. there are opportunities and egypt is undergoing a presidential race. they promise that this will be a free and fair election, but people need to point out or continue to pressure to see that you cannot have free and fair election without free press. the government cannot arbitrarily detain and prosecute journalists and claim it was a conducive environment for the citizens of egypt to make an informed condition about who is the next leader. >> how aware are the citizens of the case, and what do they think about it. >> the government has been implementing a vilification
campaign to portray journalists as agents that are implementing a foreign agenda to egypt and spread chaos. but you can fool people some of the time, not all of the time. that's what we are hoping, things like that, this trial, other attempts by the government, that have the reverse affect. showing that the government is insincere, and also bad in front of the public. because eventually we do not have the evidence to back it up. all the vilification campaigns and allegations were not proven in court. we are hoping that that will increase the solidarity, but also unit behind them. we see some indications, and
also foreign correspondents have been speaking out against the trial and forms of intimidation, and there were former letters written by the freedom committee, and the syndicate and other famous journalists to help resolve the case. it shows a side of hope, hopefully we can see more of the action. egypt has become a dangerous place. sherif mansour, good to have you here. let's hope the journalists are freed soon. >> thank you. hope so too. >> the support for peter greste, mohammed badr, and mohamed fadel fahmy is stronger on social media. to harmeli aregawi. >> the hash tag free aj staff has this over 6 million impressions. christiane amanpour, larry king, and russel simmons, and journalists over the world are taking to twitter and facebook to stand up for the journalist
and for journalism. you might wonder what impact the support has on the men behind bars. knowing that people and journalists worldwide are behind him is what keeps everything going. >> al jazeera's editor sweeted this along with a salman rushdie quote. free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. free speech is life itself. >> there has been protests all over the world, calling for the release of the incident men gaoled for doing their jobs. smocial media plays a huge part in getting the message out. you can hear more on aljazeera.com. back to you. >> straight ahead - a treatment that could signal a breakthrough for countless paralysis patients. >> tiger woods misses out on
. >> imagine being paralyzed from the neck down, and suddenly being able to move again. millions of paralyzed americans have new hope thanks to a new kind of therapy. researchers at louisville implanted electrical stimulators in spine all cords of four men. all gained some control over certain muscles in their legs. i'm joined by the doctor who evaluated the men. he's a doctor of physical medicine. and the fraser rehab and neural
science centres. it's an amazing story, i know you chose four men, planted an elect rick tall stimulator. how did it work, and are you surprised it worked as as well as it did? >> we were surprised. it was quite a surprise when the stimulator was on and the first patient. rob summers felt he could move his toe. when we asked him to voluntarily move his leg, the ph.d. neurofirsty ol gift asked rob if he could move his leg. he lifted it. we were overwhelmed, shocked, crying. it was an amazing moment. it's voluntary, it's not that the electric jolt makes the muscle move. >> that's correct. the stimulator is implanted into
the spinal cord providing an application of electricity at varying intensities and frequencies to the lower portion of the cord that controls the hips, the knooes, the ankles, and the toes. when the electricity is being applied, attentionly the patient is able to move voluntarily their legs because the intensity is in some ways awake eping the nervous system so there's a voluntary response. >> as time went on. the men needed less stimulation. is that the encourage part of it, a severely damaged spinal network can work. >> that's the key aspect. when the fairness were implanted and we saw voluntary movement, we went back and did activity
based training, body wheel supported treadmill training, where they are place the into a harness and they have facilitated ambulation. as the intensity continued over months, with the stimulation and the locker motor training, patient required less stimulation, which meant the nervous system was awakening and learning how to move again. >> how much control do they have. >> when awe stimulator is on, patients regain the ability to move lower extremities. everyone has been able to stand and self of the patients have been able to walk, which is very impressive. when the stimulator is on, they perform function, when it is off, they are not. the stimulation with the electricity plays a key role. we know that the spinal court
has been awakened and relearned or reactivated its ability to move the also. >> what level of walking and balance are we talking about? >> so, rob, the first patient implanted, immediately after placement of epidural stimulator was able to move his legs. we went back and started a course of activity based therapy, locko motor training on a treadmill. he had 180 sessions. by the end of the training he could walk distances of 400 feetway walker, when he had no voluntary movement of his legs previously. >> that's incredible. >> exciting. >> this is the area of the spinal cord that deals with the lower extremities. two of the patients that have been implanted have
quadripledgia, meaning their injury was higher into the neck area. a nurse that controls the arms are high. we haven't seen much voluntary movement in the neck area, but what we are targetting is the lower portion of the cord at the time. interestingly the two patients have neck industry and appears as someone who has par pledgia. the other has head functioning. >> christopher is instrumental in the project. how optimistic are you that paralysis no longer be a life-time sentence. >> i believe with time, paralysis will not be a lifetime
reality. >> i believe it will be a comment playing a role and there'll be many factors playing a role. it will include therapies, activity based therapies, epidural stimulation, possibly stem cells. i believe there'll be a cocktail leading to a cure, and i'm hopeful as a physician that cares for people with spinal core injuries, their we are on a path to that. i'm really excited about that. that we are taking significant strides forward. >> 6 million americans and their families who are paralyzed are hopeful as you are that this works out. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, c.b.s. chooses david letterman's successor, but the change is not making everyone happy. first, the masters is underway,
>> today's data dive checks the tiger effect on the masters. golf's tradition, unlake any other kicked off -- unlike any other, kicked off without tiger woods, he has won four green jackets, he is, by far, the star that most transcended the port. so much so shortly after tiger announced he wouldn't play, he sale of ticket before the masters dropped in price. one website tick iq saw a 66% drop in prices when compared to last year. the president said he has seep a 30 to 35% drop off since tiger's announcement. normally those sales would be increasing in a week before
augusta's big event. tiger's impact would be hard to oversit. c.b.s. didn't broadcast his first round when he started. when he was a posterior, it became the highest win, and his second was the second highest waited. next year huge demand forced c.b.s. to broadcast the final round. in his competitive recent years tiger met a ratings boost to what is golf's highest rating tv event. top sponsors will take a hit, top brand losing 3-4 million. tigers's woes may be leading to a decline in general. >> coming up, a late-night
>> the battle for the future of late night television got a little more clear on thursday. stephen colbert signed a 5-year term to take over "the late show." it leaves a lot of questions. we are joined by alan sepinwall. not a big surprise to you. >> no, they did this in a week. they knew it was coming. ordinary there was a cottage industry of speculation. c.b.s. took it off the board. this is who they wanted and they got them.
>> this is the most qualified candidate. my reaction is what about jon stewart, deborah denn, brian conan o'brien. stephen colbert has been playing a character. >> he was the most qualified candidate. jimmy stewart is happy during the daly show. conan is probably looked at as damaged goods. of the available people, i think stephen colbert is the best qualified, the best guy they could get. it's a good move for c.b.s. and him. as a fan of the colbert report, i am disappointed because i would rather watch him do that. >> will this nuter him, because won't he be another middle age white guy doing what another middle age white guy has been
doing. >> this is a format that outlived its usefulness. >> the show exists to pump out videos. in terms of the interview, monologues, it's stable. what stephen colbert and jon stewart have tonne, has been created midnight. i think it will be a stap back. >> stephen colbert's show was original and fun to watch. c.b.s., david letterman gave his approval. they want stephen colbert to bring younger viewers to improve the dynamics. >> it's whether the audience that love stephen colbert the character would like to watch stephen colbert the personality. he's a smart guy. when i have seen him out of character, he is gregarious. if he's going the show that letterman's been doing, that
jimmy fallon and others have been doing, the novelty will go away. the young critics were gunning for stephen colbert when he did the n.b.c. few weeks. >> it's things like jimmy fallon, and others, they are softer. stephen colbert makes no bones that he's left of center. rush limburg says c.b.s. has declared war on the america. >> yes, when you take a catholic boy and put him on tv, sl destroy the heart of america. >> this is a guy who is clearly hollywood liberal type. letterman is a hollywood liberal type. >> might there not be reaction and people that might not want to watch. >> there might be a reaction,
but host of these are assumed to be lib errol and the guy being replaced - i don't think c.b.s. is bringing him in to do the show. i don't think he'll interview labour relations people about the north western players unionizing. he'll have stars tying to promote their movie. i don't think it will be a nightmare lefty show that is worried about. >> i love craig ferguson. he had a prince of whales clause, if he didn't get the david letterman show, that he would be paid a bunch of money. what will happen? >> sounds like he may want to leave. he's the guy that hosts a genuine talk show. he has conversations, not just going through the motion, tell me a funny story. he's talking, engaging, the show
where you might want to watch from the beginning to end. i can see him being offended that he was never in consideration. >> i'm with you, i hope he sticks around. there are reports that stephen colbert's contract had been sinked up with david letterman to make sure he was available whenever dave decided to leave. do you think it's been in the works for a long time. >> i think it's been a dream of his. and he advanced as far as he would go, john is not leaving any time soon. if that's the case, he's part of the c.b.s. family. he would be able to go over and do the show out of new york. he's a smart guy. he's "i will do my contract, i'm locked in whenever dave is available." >> there are still millions who watch the shows every night, me among them. great to have you with us.
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