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president obama on the defensive about swapping bowe bergdahl for top taliban leaders. was berg a deserter. we'll ask a medic who served with him. how china is clamping down on memorials of the tiananmen happened. russell simmonds on the music industry and using music to enterfeign and educate why is dan backing away from suing the n.f.l. not long after he filed. hello, i'm antonio mora, and
this is "consider this". here is what is on "consider this". . >> the president need to look us in the eye and explain what he has done. >> lawsuit. >> dan merino and his lawyers lawsuit. >> if you want to be part of the family. >> it's 25 years since the beijing. >> hope was gone. people. >> china will never go back to total tarian again. we begin with a controversy surrounding the deal that freed bowe bergdahl from taliban captivity in a swap for five top taliban leaders in guantanamo bay.
with mounting allegations, the army announced on tuesday it would launch an investigation into the events surrounding his capture. the chairman of the joints chief of staff stated army leaders would not look away from misconduct if it occurred. arriving in europe for the beginning of a 4-day trip, president barack obama was forceful in defending his decision to make the deal that taliban. >> regardless of the circumstances, whatever they may turp out to be, we get an american soldier back from captivity. period, full stop. we don't condition that. >> joining us from sacramento is sergeant joshua korn eel son who served in bowe bergdahl's platoon. you were there the day bowe bergdahl disappeared. you said you have no doubt he why? >> he was, first off bowe
bergdahl was quiet. he kept to himself a lot. didn't divulge too many personnel details to one particular person, and he was reserved, very quiet. i mean, a lot of people are quiet, obviously. he did spend a lot of time with the locals. he enjoyed happening out with the amp, afghan national police. that morning, when it came up and we had bowe bergdahl's weapon, body armour, and sensitive equipment and no bowe bergdahl, it was - you just thought "yeah, bowe bergdahl would be the guy that would walk away." there were consequences to his disappearance. what did it mean for you and the rest of the platoon. >> after he left, we launched a series of small patrols in the neighbouring area looking for him, looking for any sign that he might have, you know, been captured or he might have wanted to have gotten back. as a soldier you go through training where if you are captured, you are taught to
leave equipment or signs that you want to be found. we never found any of those much the following 90 days after bowe bergdahl left, we searched every day for 20 hours a day to find bowe bergdahl. mission. >> absolutely. the mission from the time he left for the next three months bergdahl. >> there are a number of reports that six soldiers ended up losing their lives while searching for bowe bergdahl. what can you tell us about that. do you know anyone that died in that process, squ what impact did it have on the platt on. >> morale was low. we were out, you know, expending energy, so much time, resources, everything that we have we are giving to find bowe bergdahl, and he deserted and walked away and didn't want to be found. we were essentially spending
extra time, energy and effort to find someone who didn't want to be found. >> turning to what the president said today, he said that the sacred oath is what every mum and dad who sees a son or daughter sent to war should expect from the united states. what about bowe bergdahl, do we have an obligation to bring him back or anyone else. if bowe bergdahl deserted. should we have an obligation to get desert yes back too? >> absolutely, he's a united states citizen that served to come back from the united states. he's a deserter from the united states army and needs to be held accountable for deserting his post and being a deserter. he needs to be accountable for all of that. if he didn't follow the sacred oath, how much important was the promise do you. do you think we'd be able to get people in the military, if we oath.
>> the army ethos, is never leave a fallen soldier, never leave a comrade. so that - it is what it is. you know, it doesn't matter if it's a deserter, if it's a wounded soldier or injured soldier, you as that person and bring them back to safety. bowe bergdahl being a deserter, he deserved to be rescued. >> you said he should not be considered a hero, what would you say to him if you had the chaps to talk to him? >> i would ask him why he purply walked away and left myself, my platoon members, my battalion to clean up his mess that he made by leaving. i'd ask him why, how he feels about having six united states army soldiers subsequently killed in the search for him. for bowe bergdahl.
>> so many questions. appreciate you joining us, to tell us yore story. >> to help better understand what is next, i'm joined from philadelphia by jack demarchio who formerly was deputy undersecretary and analysis operations at the department of homeland security, and worked as a judge advocate general and is currently a partner at a law firm. jack, good of you to join us. your reaction to what you heard the sergeant say. >> thank you, it's a pleasure to be here. the sergeant said interesting things. he's right with regard to the code of the military. i had several deployments myself, and we don't leave a soldier behind. whether the intuffed u deserted -- individual deserted or captured, we try to make every effort to get the soldier forces.
>> he's currently in germany being evaluated. how long do you think he'll stay there before he's questioned about the charges. >> sure, he's in landstuhl army hospital, and is undergoing a series of evaluations to determine his physical capabilities as a result of five years in the captivity and custody of the taliban. once the doctors are finished with him. he'll probably be returned to walter reed in washington d.c. area - the medical center, part of the theys -- bethesda naval hospital. given the fact that there's conflicting evidence as to his intent to leave his post or whether he was captured by the enemy, that is going to be an issue that the army will have to hone in on, and examine carefully. >> talking about some other
legalities, all the members of the platoon had to sign documents agreeing not to discuss anything that happened during or in connection with bowe bergdahl's disappearance. why would the army stop them from talking. are they putting themselves in danger now by speaking out? >> i don't know what the status was, or what the circumstances were regarding that so-called gag order. that may have been a fact that the investigation was still ongoing, and the army felt that it was better to keep statements out of the press. now, of course, the investigation - the soldier has been recovered and is in u.s. custody. we go into a second phase to determine what happened, what were the circumstances from his absence from his unit and duty position. we have heard some allegations that there may be a desertion. if this is, in fact, a desertion, that will kick in certainly an investigation that the army will most likely do in any case.
probably something called an article 15-6 investigation, or army regulation 15-6, which is a regulation calling for an investigating officer to be appointed by senior officer to investigate the facts and circumstances surrounding an incident. in this case most likely an investigating officer will be looking at whether sergeant bowe bergdahl lift, ut circumstances, was it vault the circumstances, was it voluntary or involuntary. that will be the next step after he's determined physically fit. >> if they find it was voluntary, do you think there'll be a trial? >> if it was voluntary, if the 15-6 investigation comes down, there was a desertion, to try the case, to bring it to a court marshall. under the uniform code of military justice, article 85
calls for a trial if an individuals has been found guilty of desertion. it is defined as absence from your place of duty or post without the proper authority with the intent not to return, the intent to ab sent yourself after the duty post. >> if he is found guilty by a court marshall, do you think he'll be punished. >> if he's found guilty bay a court marshall, it will go from - there's two faces. the phase where they determine whether the individual was guilty or not. if he's determined to be guilty, it goes into a penalty phase, determining what type of punishment would be appropriate for that individual. a court marshall which could be done by a jury of officers enlisted, or a judge alone trial
could give him. if found guilty, could give him no essential punishment, or the maximum punishment. >> i know you don't believe that circumstances. >> again, it's hard to speculate. if found guilty, certainly anything is on the table. he could be sentenced to a prison term or not. it's speculation at this point. >> thank you, jack, for joining us to explain the process. president obama is on a 4-day trip to europe to support nato allies, that the u.s. will support them. arriving in warsaw, poland's capital, the president said security was sack roe sanction the and u.s. and its allies would stand together and would
ask congress for a billion dollars to position more military equipment in europe and bring in more european forces. >> we'll increase american personnel, army and air force units, rotating through allied countries, and step up the partnerships with friends like ukraine, moldova and georgia. >> for more, i'm joined by david ignitionous, "the washington post" columnist on foreign affairs, writing on the murky world of intelligence, counterterrorism and the c.i.a. he is an author. you were tough on the president's foreign policy speech. you said your paper, "the washington post", the only consistency of the policy is that it's been bad.
is that weakness why he's in europe, offering a billion dollars in what is a military aid, allies that can rely on american strength. >> it's important to president obama to tell european allies that the united states is there. it's committed. it's committed in terms of additional money in terms of n.a.t.o. and defense. from president obama's standpoint, the progress of events worked out as well as it could have. that's one of the things i said in a column. i was critical of parts of a speech, we can talk about that. ukraine, given that the united states didn't have military option, the combination of sanctions and diplomatic pressure had the rush jobs to allow the elections in -- russians to allow the elections to take place. there's a newly elected president.
both say they can work. now the question is steadying those closer to russia, poland, the baltics, and others are nervous. they saw what happened in ukraine. the question conditions to be whether president obama - not just whether he has the military to use in europe, but whether he has the will to take the steps that would back putin and the russians up. that is a question the world is asking about. >> is there a danger that with this announcement. he's doing what serg alavrov -- sergei lavrov said he shouldn't do, moving in more money. >> that is a danger. what vladimir putin's decision function is, how he reacts to u.s. policy is hard to predict. the united states has a crucial
alliance in terms of security. going back to the end of world war ii in n.a.t.o. and it's important that the countries feel confident that the united states stands behind them. moving additional forces to support the countries, figuring out a way to help ukraine move down the road towards neutral but stable status between east and west. i think those are all sensible consensus american goals. you are right, there is a daner that vladimir putin will look at the steps and feel lease being penned in, threatened, and will take -- feel like he's being penned in, threatened and will take actions. i'm not sure that president obama has a choice. he has to show that we are allies.
>> i want to the touch on three quick topics. let's listen to the president talk about the afghan war. >> at the end of this year a new afghan president will be in office. over. >> you wrote that the president repeated an avoidable mistake when he set the time limit on a afghanistan. >> i just don't understand that decision antonio, i'll be honest. when the president announced his initial search of 30,000 u.s. troops in december 2009, adding the transportation force in afghanistan, it didn't make sense to announce the time when you would begin withdrawing the troops. you should leave the adversary guessing. everything we know about conflicts says the more you notify your adversaries, the
more likely they are like to wait you out. i arrived the president a -- asked the president that question in a speech before the policy was announced in 2009. i think it was a mistake. i think it's been a mistake not to try to leave a residual force in iraq. even a modest one. it would have been difficult. the iraqis weren't sure they wanted one. i think it was a mistake to leave to quickly. it's true that al qaeda is back in fallujah, back in ramada, and the valley where the united states at great cost of people, lives lost, and funny spent, managed to chase them out. they are back. you have to ask - what is the lesson that tells you. to me it is important for the u.s. to leave some residual force as a check against the kinds of violent extremist you
see in iraq. that obviously could cripple afghanistan in the future. >> talking about al qaeda, you have written about syria. we saw voting in a presidential election begin on tuesday. three years of civil war. 160,000 dead. millions of people displaced. we saw bashar al-assad and his wife casting ballots. he will unquestionably win the election. the white house is asking for $5 billion for an anti-terror campaign including training and weapons for syria's moderate opposition. that opposition seems rudderless and at this point is that too little, too late? >> it is fairly rudderless. that's a reason for this programme of assistance that the president seems to move toward. i travelled inside syria with the opposition. what you see in syria breaks your heart. it's a wonderful country. aleppo, which i visited during the destruction of aleppo is a
beautiful city in the middle east. to see a leader dropping these might marish barrel bombs on civilian populations is - should trouble everyone. i think the evidence that bashar al-assad used chemical weapons against his own people is well-established. that should shock people. in 2014, 2013, the use of chemical weapons is outrageous. i look at the selection, i look at everything haing in syria -- happening in syria, it's heart-breaking. in my own judgment, everywhere has to look and make their own decision the my judgment is that the united states needs to stablilize the areas liberated from bashar al-assad's forces. and the only way to do that is by helping the opposition, which is really ragged to have better command and control, and have stabilization forces in those
areas so it doesn't become warlordism. >> in some ways the new novel is relevant to all the stories. you write about a c.i.a. where hackers are more important than conventional spies. it takes place in an intelligence world that is reeling from the edward snowden revelations even though you started the book before we knew who edward snowden was. hackers. cyber terrorism, warfare. how big a change will this be for the c.i.a. in the future? >> intelligence, meaning the information that the c.i.a. gathers and analyses is now all digital. i mean every document that you get, every image that you record, every voice captured through surveillance is digital information. as such, is subject to being hacked. i became fascinated at the beginning of 2012 bit the way in
which the world of hackers, the world of cyber espionage, cyber work is colliding like in spy novels. it seems all the spy novels, penetration of the agency, deception. they were going digital. they were going into zero, and ones. i set out to write a novel capturing this colleagues of two worlds i saw happening. and that is the novel "the director." you started at a death con hacker's conference, some of the information is incredible. you wrote that you don't consider edward snowden a hero, we don't know how much damage he caused u.s. intelligence. whatever one things about edward snowden - hero or trial dater, if the n.s.a. has the powers we were talking about, nothing is scarier than having rogue actors having access to the capabilities, at the center of the novel. how realistic is that that our
secret communication, the n.s.a., the c.i.a. could be compromised. >> unfortunately, i think the edward snowden case demands that it is realistic. i don't want to go through the whole debate about whether he's a whistleblower or something much worse. what he shows us is malin actor, an agent of a foreign power, a disgruntled person could take the most sensitive tools and turn them against the united states. somebody inside the air gap as they like to say in the intelligence system, inside the circle, could compromise the systems, manipulate the data involving you and me and everywhere else. it's a scary prospect. i know the intelligence community is trying to figure out how to prevent future edward snowdens, people taking data, using it for their own purposes,
without making work places that are so tightly controlled, so full of surveillance, big brother looking over your shoulder that no one would want to work there. you don't want to create an area where no smart person would want to work. these are the issues going forward. i tried to write a post-snoweden model. this is the new world we live in. this is about how living in the world of wikileaks, edward snowden revelations - how can they do their business in a way where we are comfortable with it. in a lot of ways, it's good that i am being publicly debated, because it matters how the debate turps out. all sorts of important questions raised by david's latest thriller. a pleasure to have you with us.
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it's an unforgettable image of the fight for human rites and freedom, one the chinese government spent a quarter of a century trying to get a billion people to forget. on june 5th, 1989, a man, his name unknown, defied a column of tanks near tiananmen square. the night before china's people's liberation army gunned down hundreds, perhaps thousands in tianamen for demanding end to control of society, corruption and control. on tuesday security was heavy. people toforeign ministry spokesman said the crackdown was the correct path, saying in china there were law breakers, no dissidents. the relevant departments of the chinese departments act according to the law.
it should be respected. i'm joined by gordon chang. his latest article in the national interests is entitled "tianamen - could it happen again." good to see you. a million people protesting in tiananmen square back then, before the berlin wall fell. it was an incredible moment in modern history. the beijing government has been cracking down on dissidents in the past few months, and journalists. what are they afraid of? >> they are afraid of another teenman. it's 1.2 people in the center of beijing. and protests in the city around china. the problem is most people in china do not believe a one party system is not good for a what keeps it together is prosperity. but they have an economy that is
stumbling, the same situation in 1989. then it was inflation, no deflation. it's economic mismanagement. i think they know they have a real problem. >> the power behind the scenes in china decided that they needed to give lessons in obedience to people massing in tianamen. are we seeing history repeating itself, is that what they are trying to do. sending a message of intimidation, don't mess with the communist party. >> for those people alive in 1989, and, of course, they'll never forget it, they are trying to coerce them. it's a message of intimidation. subtle but intimidation. for a generation of chinese, not alive in 1989 or very young, what happened is the party tried to erase it from everyone's memory.
clearly for those people they have little understanding of what happened in 1989. they grew up with a feeling of almost the government being benign. they don't fear the government as much as peel that went through tianamen. >> they have been successful in erasing the memory. it's pretty well not in the history books, and people refer to it as the republic of amnesia. the average young chinese person may not know what happened. >> there are some people that don't know at all, don't know anything, and some heard that there were protests in 1989, but know little about it because the governments don't test it, they don't teach it in school. sometimes they hear it from parents, but that generation - it's not important, not something we think about. >> because of the ignorance, it may be that's why we are seeing more protests in china, people are not that afraid. they happened.
>> they wanted to teach a murderous lesson saying the communist party would go to any means to keep in power. young kids in school don't know the lesson. they are assert if, they are more defiant, the result of trying to erase this from the schools, from memory and history. they see the government as being good. they don't thing they are subject to the controls that the rest of us know they are subject too. more of them travel than they did back then. the people na the united states must know that china is censoring the internet. that they are not that benign. >> yes, but when someone goes into louie vuitton, they are not going to go in and read a sign saying "by the way, 25 years ago your government killed thousands of people."
eating. >> talking about a different china. shanghai, the big documents make fifth avenue look shabby. it's a different china. >> that's why you go there. you don't get a sense it's a semitotal airian state. a lot of chinese grow up with the feeling that it's a free society. when you compare it to anything else, it's like the truman show. if you are in the environment, you don't know what's outside. >> could tooep men happen again? >> it could. you do have the pressures building up in chinese society. because the deposit is coercive it doesn't agrees a lot of problems, it has less pressure to do so. because of that you get the pressures building up because people are upset. it's the problem that authoritarian governments face, that they don't respond to
democracy. >> the danger is china is more important than it was back then. an explosion is something you don't want to see. let's see if they figure out a way to move forward. gordon chang i'm not optimistic about it. good to see you. thank you for talking about this important tat in history now an update on our al jazeera colleagues held by bars in egypt. the trials of mohamed fadel fahmy and baher mohamed is set to resume on thursday after bail was denied again on sunday in cairo. they have been held since december. separately abdullah al-shami has been detained since august. he's been on a hunger strike and lost a third of his body weight. al jazeera calls the charges baseless and maintains the innocence of all four. the network continues to demand their immediate release. straight ahead - russell
simmonds is trying to harp es the trillion dollar spending power of children for a good cost. he joins us. the last thing you want next to your name in a high school year book is most likely to succeed. what is going on by dan mer eeb >> i'm joe berlinger this is the system people want to believe that the justice system works. people wanna believe that prosecutors and police do the right thing. i think every american needs to be concerned about that. we do have the best justice system in the world, in theory... the problem is, it's run by human beings... human beings make mistakes...
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the spending power of children was recently measured at more than a trillion dollars - that's right. kids. our nest guess is ensuring that -- our nest guest is ensuring that some of that will help their future. he is doing that through green rocks, a company to eued kate youth on -- educates children on health and other matters. the first is environmental. >> join us as you meet the most loveable, squeezable snugable. you won't want to miss a second of our acks-packed -- action-packed game.
your future depends upon it. mission g rock. >> who would have thought russell simmonds would be a video game mooing ug. he joins us in new york. u.s. a today named him a top influential. he discovered a number of artists, political activists splooupsed analogistal policy on a variety of issues and has a new book out. success through stillness, meditation made simply. russell simmonds great to have you here. video games - kids are always on the gadgets and playing the games. what do you hope to accomplish. >> it's education, taking many shapes. the first game entered number one on the 9 to 11 chart and to the overall kids chart.
it achieved the number one status. it's on ongoing status to promote the game and will build up different elements on different, you know, places to go with it. characters are great. the more ethnic than usual. they don't have a lot of them. it's a chance to educate without being preachy. >> that's what you are trying to do, have them have fun, but learn. >> yes. >> music plays a big part of t. >> we have a major music component. i don't think music and gaming is integrated. we are putting out a record every week. we'll download some of those records to play with the game. so that's going be fun. and other hit records will be available for the kids to play. that is something you have focussed on, how important music can be to a kid's education.
>> music is good for stillness. we need people to practice and appreciate art. and appreciating art - in music, especially in all the scripture, all spiritual practice, music brings you to still ness, and that is where happy innocence resides. people are drawn outside of their core, where music and art brings you to the core. i just believe in it wholeheartedly and like the expression of the odds. that's what it is. music, poetry, comedy, art expression. and i - that digital company is tied to this in various ways. >> look at the amount of things involved. it's difficult to believe you have the time for half of them, much less all of them. >> i'm going to chicago in a couple of days, i'm get ron
emanuel to teach quiet times p times in schools. we have all the research in the world. there's tremendous research about brain functionality and kids focussing and functioning and having relationships with the world, that quiet time has been a tremendous asset, and the scientists say it now, it's not just all the prove et cetera and reliage lions, now the -- prophets and religions, scientists are telling us now. >> how has that helped you? >> i have meditated for 20 years. my name is rush. you do more in less time. the more you expound on present moments, the greater the relationship with the world and level of happiness. the idea of meditating twice a day, when you slow down and operate from a still mind, meeting nothing attracts everything. the neediness of the world -
it's the cause of suffering. the stillness is the cause of happiness. we want to give people a chance to use - thousands of years, people meditated and talked about it. it's not in the school systems when we have it in school systems, it's a success story. >> do you thaik it can be successful in kids. >> i motivate my kits every morning. that's what my question is - you would be surprised. you have a 13-year-old boy to sit and meditate. i don't know that i can do that to my 14-year-old. >> my daughter started at eight, the other at 10, one is 14 and one is 11. they meditate before school. so many schools where we have tremendous success with kids and quiet time. you sit, preach the mantra and the kid zones out.
goes deep into meditation. adults may have double. you should learn. it will change your life. i gay oprah, ellen degeneres, and teachers - it changed their life and it spread the word. it's an important tool. making poetry and comedy. making consciousness. that's a great accomplish s for me. >> you have advocated that and the importance in schools. spending money on art. kids that have music on maps. are you at all disappointed at where the music industry has gone over the past 30 years. >> i think if a kid can be shot in a weekend and doesn't make your news feed, then an artist can talk about it.
some of the sad realities are reflected through poetry. people don't like the sexual content, thinking it sexist, homophobic. rap is not as sexist as their parents, not as homophobic as their parents or as gangster as the government. i don't feel a poet should be stifled. they say things you don't lie k sexual things - how can they say that. a man says that. it's true. >> it's been argued. >> 26. if that's the case, why can't an artist sing about it. their job is to sing about what people. >> the question is whether it's gone too far. >> they all say that. it's not always glorifying, it's stating the reality 99% of the time. they glorify the programs. it happens. they say in their world that that is what's.
>> i'm sorry, if you don't live in a neighbourhood. i'm glad they reach you. when they say "f the police", dialogue had to start. it wasn't stop and brisk, it was lie them down and figure out what is in their pockets when they are on the cement. >> you spoke out about that, gun violence, the need for violence. so many issues. so many issues that you had been out there. what had been the main focus. >> is there a main focus. things come. if they are useful. the celebrity is valuable to build out a programme or support. whether it's gay rights or animal right. 40 billion animals born into suffering is not what it meant by dominion.
it caused a global warn. all the deprap in the water and oil - do i look sick. i'm 56, i don't feel sick. i feel okay. i don't need animals for 15 years. i don't think it's necessary to poison ourselves. do you see the report on beef. if 30% of the protein came from beef, the amount of carcinogens would be 20%. >> there's so many conflicting reports. >> many, many billions of dollars went to that. people like to believe they can eat meet. >> a lot of contlicting reports on diet. you're going to go that route. you are involved in everything. good to see you. russell simmonds, his book on sale now.
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said 75% of books used to include those titles, to 25% now. reasons vary. there are legal concerns by some that feel labels or most likely to have a conversation with himself could hurt students prospects in the future. "the wall street journal" reported on a study finding one-third of kids found being named most likely to succeed turned out to be a burden. a study that tracked 276,000 found those most likely to succeed earnt more than their peers by the time they were in their mid 20s. some proved how accurate the labels can be. san ra bullock was selected most likely to brighten your day. angelina jolie was best addressed. and is getting those honour from
entertainment magazines. negatives may not mean much. tom cruise was voted least likely to succeed, and sylvester stawell own was most likely to end up in an electric chair. robin williams was named funniest and least likely to succeed. his classmates were half right. coming up dan merino is used to staring down pressure without blinking. real reporting that brings you the world. giving you a real global perspective like no other can. real reporting from around the world. this is what we do. al jazeera america. ay to you.
al jazeera america, take a new look at news. hall of fame quarter back-dan merino added his name to a lawsuit brought by former players of the n.f.l. over concussions suffered on the field. within hours, the miami dolphin announced that it was a big misunderstanding. let's bring in dave ziren's sports edfor for "the
nation", author as well. dave, good to see you. dan merino has been all over the place on this issue. fellow players were not happy with him when he made this comment when the news of the first concussion lawsuit broke? >> it's a violent game, a physical game. if you take away too much. it will be like flag football. players know what the risks are. when i went out to play i thu there was a chaps of getting a concussion or breaking a leg or getting a knee injury. >> he's crate sized for being a hypocrite and says it was a mistake. do you buy any of it? >> i don't buy any of it. this stinks like fish out in the sun or a dolphin, if you will. i've been looking at this carefully, and this is clearly a story where we are not getting all the facts. when the news was released that
dan merino was part of the lawsuit. i spoke to a lot of folks who were part of the lawsuit or sympathetic to the lawsuit, former players that were thrilled. they said forget about everything that dan merino said. this is a big deal. the name dan marino has so much recognition and credibility and he is known as someone successful financially since his playing days. the fact that he was entering the lawsuit was a point of principal and pride saying it's not about money, but the greater goods for the players, and for him to pull out saying he didn't know when he put his name on the lawsuit that this would go public. it's ridiculous. the bad jokes that a lot of people are saying. isn't this proof that he suffers a post conask yousive syndrome. if he goes on a lawsuit one day and pulls out the next.
>> what is going on. he's had a long cultivated career and imaging and left c.b.s., where he was a broadcaster for n.f.l. football. he's looking for a job in the miami dolphins front office. is this what is going on, he felt like he couldn't get a job in the n.f.l. while suing them at the same time. >> that's the whisper. we know how hostel n.f.l. ownership and the commissioner is to the lawsuits. we know this. we know how, frankly the culture of aust risition happens to players. this is what we know. the question about dan merino, did he pull his name because he's trying to get a job with the dolphins or the number of fl. it's a theory that makes sense,
what doesn't make sense are the explanations coming out of his camp. the other thing that he's saying is he entered the lawsuit in case he had medical bills down the line to make sure his family would be taken care of. if that's the case, why pull your name out of it. >> let's turn to soccer. it's been in the news for all the wrong reasons. it's not about the problems in brazil. we are talking about problems with the 2022 world cup in qatar. and the allegations are now that a former vice president of f.i.f.a., a qatari, paid millions in bribes to get the tournament to be assigned to qatar in 2022. the world cup committee released a statement saying that he had played no role in their bid and they had to convince him, like everywhere else, that was deciding who would get the world cup. people are calling for a revote on all of this.
do you think that could happen? >> absolutely i think it could happen. first of all, bribery and f.i.f.a. go together like peanut butter and jelly. a problem when stories like this emerge is you have to fight against the cynicism and eye rolling that happens. that's what people expect with so many of these bids. there are a lot of other issues at play. first and foremost the idea of playing the world cup over the summer seems unrealistic. so they were talking about moving it to the fall. a lot of the top soccer leagues said we will sue f.i.f.a. if it moves to the fall because that will mess with the schedule. there's a problem. there has been serious and disturbing reports about the labour conditions of the work of the migrant workers from nepal, working on building the stadiums. hundreds reported having died from heat exhaustion. all of these factors together
with the bribes make the idea of moving the world cup out of qatar something that i think moves from possible to probable and you having countries like australia throwing their hat in the ring saying they'll be ready and are willing to do it if they need to. >> another black eye forward f.i.f.a., the soccer federation, facing allegations of fixing of games in the not too recent past. a lot of issues. always. the show may be over but the conversation continues on the website. you can >> misbehaving children locked up doing time while they should be in school. >> they have to prepare for jail >> throwing away our future >> we're using the same failed policies in districts throughout the country >> are we failing our kids? fault lines
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