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well, the battle against the islamic state group is being fought on the ground in iraq and syria. the attic focus today is in egypt. john kerrey met with and thkerr added each had a major role to play. john hendren is following the story from erbil in iraq. >> the coalition against the islamic state group. >> egypt has a critical role to play in publirenouncing the ideology that isil disi emanate this was an important feature of our discussions and today in cairo. and it is something that the egyptian religious establishments at alazar and darilifta, they both fully
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support and understand. >> egypt's foreign minister opted his help. >> i support the international efforts to fight terrorism and work on supporting these efforts and support the necessary measures to put an ends to this phenomena, whether now, in libya or any part of the arab world or in africa. >> it's not clear egypt will play a military role but it offers critical help in the ideological battle against the islamic state. without broad support in the middle east and africa, the alliance could look hauntingly like the so-called coalition of the willing that invaded and occupied iraq in 2003. >> in baghdad, iraq's prime minister said he has ordered the army to stop shelling populated areas held by the islamic state. be. >> my orders were very clear.
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we don't want more innocent victims to be killed in the area and in the area controlled by the islamic state group. >> clashes has taken its toll on civilians living in islamic state held areas. according to the united neighborhoods more than 1 dort 8 million people have been displaced when the rapid advance by islamic state fighters began. erbil, iraq. >> a radio addressed to, president obama reinforced the important role of allies in the strategy against is. >> that's what needed now is a targeted, relentless, counter-terrorism campaign against isil that come bieningz american air power, contributions from allies and partners and more support to forces that are fighting these terrorists on the ground. >> that's exactly what we are doing. >>. >> meanwhile, heightened religious tensions, shiia groups deny they are carrying out revenge attacks.
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sue turtan has more from northern iraq. >> a shiia militia checkpoint northwest of amili. we have been told men from this group, the battle greg aid are luting and torching residents here after they residents allowed islamic state fighters to hide out. nine months earlier, they welcomed us into the town. they fought with the pressure pressure to break the siege. today, the atmosphere is very different. we are told to pull over, and our pickup truck blocks our exit. militia men aim sniper rivals, rocked-propelled agagrenades straight at us. we have been trying to negotiate through this shiia militia checkpoint. there are also peshmerga fighters on the same checkpoint. it's very clear it's the shiia m militia in that makes the decisions. we are trying to get to film a village that they have apparently flat enged and
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torched, a village that used to have sunni airabs living in it. >> eventually, they let us through. the peshmerga say the sunni mosque we passsed wasshelled. we arrive in the sunni village. it's deserted. houses have been torched, one is still mosmoldering. the peshmerga have a position close by that they are now pulling out, leaving the militia in total control. the commander says his men respect the arab sunni house that they have set up camp in. >> we are giving our lives tounite iraq, to protect all people's property. others are not doing this. this is not acceptable. >> the peshmerga has gone house to house dismantling can improvised devices left by isis fightsers. this one had demand wires buried under the road. they found explosives left under a toilet seat. our peshmerga esc orlt takes us to the nearby town where they
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tell us the shiia fighters beheaded a sunni resident. >> translator: when we witnessed that, it mate us angry. we cannot accept them. we told them if it happens again, we will fight you. it's not acceptable. we order them to stop and they promise to do so. >> but the shiia militia don't take orders from them. one peshmerga filmed this man on the day amili fell. he is giving orders in iranian far farcy. any response to these accusations, a spokesman for the organization said there are absolutely no such revenge attacks on sunni. we have liberated the towns that were taken by i.s. in a completely national level regardless of ethnic or sectarian backgrounds. the forces which you call militia are recognized by the iraqi army on an official level, and the battle call and the mercy army peace brigade are all under the iraqi army command. as president barack obama an
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ounces expansion of airstrikes across northern iraq, he was allowing the shiia militia to take control of more sunni arab territory. it will do nothing to win the hearts and minds of "the sun"ni community in this fractured battleground. if sue turter. >> at a time presidents of it james foley say they were threatened by the us government. he was kidnapped in 2012. he was beheaded by the islamic state group. they say they were given little information about the efforts the u.s. was taking to free him. >> i think the hard part, though, is because wenize eve lee thought, you know, our government could take care of it bring him home t delayed our efforts. you know, we were very slow to get more active and realized, well, gee. we've got to do something. >> tonight, we will take a
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different look at the islamic state group and all of the players involved in helping the united states fight against them. >> will be at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific. the ugandan government has stopped an attempted terrorist attack in the capitol by al shabaab. officials say they have discovered a cell planting an attack and arrested them. the u.s. government is warning american citizenship to stay indoors overnight as local law enforcement carry out anti-terror operations. u. says it's not aware of any specific threat: it. in ukraine, rebels attacked the donetsk airport overnight. the military saying is it successfully fought them off. ukraine's prime minister says the countries remains in a state of war but for now, the cease fire still holds. robin walker reports. >> reporter: this is what the so cease-fire sounds like on the outskirts of donetsk.
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pro-russian rebels wouldn't show their faces but showed us ordnance they claim craukrainia forces are using to fire on them and the city. >> this is about as close as we can safely get to the airport, which is just a kilometer or so away behind me beyond this checkpoint where small arms are, artillery tank rounds have been raining down on the stronghold that the ukrainian forces maintained here for months now. this is a very important prize strategically that the dpr rebels want to finally, take control of. >> in kiev, ukraine's prime minister admitted the cease-fire was flimsy indeed. >> let me put it bluntly. we are still in the state of war and the key agressor is russian consideration. >> russia continues to deny its military involvement and sent a second humanitarian convoy on saturday. destination, luhansk.
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residents urgently need food and support. >> today, we have received humanitarian aid from the russian federation. until now, we have unloaded cars with canned fish and meat. this will be delivered to people with parts ports from luhansk and different areas. >> pro-russian rebels distributed the aid. >> may win them trust. likewise, in donetsk, the rebels must now reassure returning residents that they can keep the peace. they may resemble just another militia but these are traffic police complete with the new insignia of the donetsk peoples republic. the rebel authorities want to show the public order has returned though some, like the government in this car, are still beyond the law. for others, though the war may not yet be over, it's time to get on with their lives. robin walker, al jazeera, dondon. >> the united nations is launching a food aid operation
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starting in that same city as the russian convoy. lunatic. officials started distributing today. they say it's at the request of the ukrainian government. it's hoping to feet 120,000 people over the next six months. more than 300,000 have been displaced by the fighting. it's been five weeks since michael brown was fatally shot by a police officer in ferguson, missouri. the violent protests that followed had subsided. community leaders say their anger has no. a rally was heads outside of the office of the st. louis county of justice. they called for the arrest of darren wilson, the officer who called the 18-year-old. a new video could bolster the case against the officer. it was recorded and shows two construction workers who saw what happened. . >> the video matches what other witnesses have said about brown's death, that he wasn't resisting arrest when the officer opened fire.
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it's not known if the men in the video have testified before the shooting >>. >> one trooper is dead, another wounded after a shooting investigators are describing as angambush. it happened at a state police barracks in blooming grove. the suexpect or suspects remain at large. >> reporter: the shooting happened in blooming grove in pikes county. pennsylvania state police said it was a cowardly act. >> we have a very dangerous, armed criminal that has already killed one pennsylvania state trooper and wounded another that is not in custody. as you can imagine, this is a very traumatic event for the pennsylvania state police and all of law enforcement in pennsylvania. >> one trooper was leaving the barracks and another was arriving when the shots were fired. >> we are talking to many people. there is no specific person that is a suspect. >> police say the injured
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trooper was in stable but critical condition after undergoing surgery. hundreds of police officers as well as a swat team continue to canvas the area for clues on foot and by helicopter. police have released scant details as a search and investigation continues in a heavily wooded area near the borders with new york and new jersey. >> seems to be an attack on law enforcement and, perhaps, our form of government. i don't know. but i can't quiet anyone's fears because we don't have the person in custody. >> police police did not believe the general public is at risk but they are asking everyone to be on the lookout for anything suspicious. we will continue to follow that story for you. three firefighters are recovering after what's being called a silverado fire burning in the mountains of the cleveland national forest east of san diego. the fire has destroyed over 1600 acres. it continues to grow. 30 homes have been ordered to evacuate. the orange county fire authority
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is investigating how that fire started. an estimated 600,000 people experienced homelessness on any given day in the u.s. as part of our series, "my home" rob reynolds goes inside a slam camp in california's wealthy, silicon valley to see how some of them survive. >> the people who live here call this the jungle. it's a rough patch of land filled with trees, shrubs, trash, and a makeshift dwellings of about 250 to 300 homeless people. a maze of pathways winds through the tents and shanties made of professionsinged lumber and plastic. there is no running water, no electricity, no sanitary toilets. people hearsay police and emergency workers seldom venture inside. troy larks had lived here for over a year. >> we live in tents. it smells a little bit. and we have the same things going down here that go on.
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people steal from each other. you know what i mean? >> at the bottom of the gully, kote creek is strewn with human waste. sometimes people bathe in it because, of course, there are no showers here troy fine, an unemployed carpenter has tried to make his place as comfortable as possible. >> all of this is done dumpster dive with no income, just finding stuff and putting it to use. >> he's been here for four years and doesn't know when, if ever, he will leave. >> it's hard to believe that a place like this exists in the middle of silicon valley, home to some of the country's wealthiest people and some of the world's most profitable companies. nigerian born nurse, mercy eguda r helps people with their health problems? >> we have people who have uncontrolled high publish, uncontrolled diabetes, uncontrolled and untreated
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medical conditions, ranging from depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar, all varied, but a lot of them are untreated, which is why a lot of them end up here. >> some cities have launched successful programs providing chronically homeless people with subsidized apartments and supportive care. but that's difficult in silicon valley which has some of the highest home prices and rents in the country. the city of san jose says it doesn't have enough resources to provide more affordable permanent housing. rob reynolds, al jazeera, san jose, california. >> ahead on al jazeera, protecting your privacy on the internet. how one social media app may make it easier to express yourself freely. >> coming up next, marching toward independence days from the vote on scotland's future.
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scotland could become an independent nation. the vote is too close to call. both sides are campaigning. >> god has never, ever been silent on any issue. >> as extraordinary as the independence debate has been, this was a dprt temperature from all that's gone before. the thousands of men and women of the original order view their cause as a did he have fence of protestantism. it's a philosophy that dates hundreds of years. in the potential for the separation of the union, the destruction of all that is great about britain and the potential unravelling of the rest of the u.k. >> i honestly don't think they will ever forget the scottsma. we will be the ones carrying it.
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>> that includes north ireland? >> northern ireland. >> and god save the queen? >> yes. >> what do you think? >> the national anthem. >> this is the death of the union? >> this is the death of the union. we don't want a death of the union. we fought and defend them. >> the marchers weren't only scottish. they came from northern ireland and across england playing "land of hope and glory," tugging on the heart strings of a receptive crowd. in recent days, the yes to independence campaign has had to face repeated allegations it has brought nationalism into the independence debate. yet this is 100% about national identity. really, it's not very much to do with the politics of northern ireland inserted into the scottish independence debate. they spoke much about their friends, no surrender, did he have 15s to the last.
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there was not talk about protest i. do you think that's 300 years out of date or relevant? >> over 300 years ago. over 300 years ago. why should we forget about the 300 years ago? >> campaign has mobilized thousands this weekend in what it says is scotland's biggest ever political initiative. these are the secular liberals, so scorned by the marchers up the hill. >> it's not about religion. it's not about past or history. we are making a choice a for best governnance. >> the anti-independence campaign kept as much distance as it could from the march as well. for all of these people, what they stand for, the crowd and the noise suggested they had managed to inject a passion into the no vote that has been so
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lacking. edin burrough. >> a group from the elite intelligence said it will not operate in the occupied palestinian territory. they are with a task from code breaking and eavesdropping. they say it some from leading normal liechz. israeli tactics, they claim include blackmail and extortion and some palestinians were physically hurt. they say no distinction was made between those who were involved in violence and those who weren't. a. >> they have, you know, certainly exposed some things that have long been room ordered. by the way, it may be important to mention that they have cleared what they have written in the letter with attorneys and i mean it has long been room ordered that -- rumored thattis
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has tracked to find vulnerabilities in order to recruit them as collaborators. >> that's one of the things they say in the letter that they confirm has happened. for example, trying to find out if people are homo sensuals which is very sensitive in palestinian society as it is in many societies, unfortunately and use that against them as means to recruit them as collaborators or capitalizing on the fact people have medical needs and they need treatment in israel and use that as incentive to try to recruit them. these things have been understood or generally understood to be part of the intelligence system and how it works. but what they do is confirm and demystify some of these things and worse, so, you know, it's definitely going to -- it's definitely bringing to light information that has only been rumored up until now.
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>> a new school year is about to begin in gaza. after witnessing devastation over the past several years, school jitters take on a different meaning. many children are now in need of psychological help. >> they run around and sing patriotic songs about palestine but this isn't just a game. teachers hearsay many of the children are traumatized what they saw, heard and felt during israel's military campaign on gaza. this private school is trying to take these young minds off of the war before the new school year begins. >> it's fun. children all over gaza including our students suffered during the war. in a child's mind, schools became shelters. we are trying to change that way of thinking before they come back to school. they are trying to give them a chance to play and forget what happened. >> we are happy today because children faced terrible days during the war. we want to make those children
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happy. >> united nations schools in gaza became shelters fortens of thousands of people fleeing the violence during the war. al jazeera visited this school in jabalia minutes after it was hit byisi shells. 20 people, including three children, were killed in the attack. so what is the situation here now? well, at this school at least, preparations are being made for the students to return in a about a week or so. however, more than a thousand people who were seeking shelter here have been moved to another school down the road. >> 5 kilometers away, we find the u.n. school they have been moved to. 800 people were already here before another 1,200 arrived in recent days. the israeli military destroyed these people's homes and there is nowhere for them to go. so there is no immediate plan for students to return here soon. >> we don't exactly know where all of the children are. you know, they are not where they would normally be. we have to do a very soft rollout of the school year. we can't just have the children and the teachers show up on the
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first day of school and pretend that this is normal. right? we need a very soft rollout. so a lot of psycbefore we get i more structured regular learning environment. >> the right for these children to have an education free of fear and uncertainty, the right to improve their lives and the lives of generations to come has been lost again. >> charles stratford,aj, gaza. >> the united nations says 26 of its schools are being used as shelters for tens of thousands of palestinians whose homes were destroyed during the war. weighing the benefits of college, of a college degree against the cost for american high school students pondering a higher education. money has become a major issue. we will have that story coming up in just a bit and next, how the islamic state group is exploiting social media. you are watching "al jazeera america."
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shot by a police officer, the video with other accounts that brown was not defying arrest. >> the army fights off an attack by rebels. russia sends more than 200 trucks across the border. ukrainianian officials calling that move illegal. secretary of state john kerry met with the head of the arab league to secure a plan against the islam i staikt group. kerry said egypt had a discredit call role to play. they have pledge today combat the group. modern warfare reaches beyond armed strikes. social media recruits for groups like the islamic state and the u.s. is leading a charge hoping to draw would-be members away from that fight.
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more from digital reporters imran khan >> the self declared islamic state group has been spreading its ideology online. a feat that hasn't gonue notice by the -- unnoticed by the u.s. government. >> we will strengthen our defenses, counter its warped ideology. >> the online war against i.s. and other extremest groups has been underway for much longer than the military campaign. leading the battle is the state department's center for strategic counter terrorism communications tasked with countering violent extremism. >> when i start in 2009, the feeling at the state department and across the executive branch was it was wrong to did i have of anify terrorist propaganda with a response but it didn't
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make sense for the u.s. government to sit on its hands and allow recruiters to go about online or in the real world and attempt to recruit people to their cause without trying to interfere in that flosses some way. >> william mccann helped build the center from the ground up. >> the street center for strategic counter terrorism communications has two: to blunt with traditional media and online. it's the online capability that has really grown over the past few years. >> so have its efforts in english in an attempt to steer would-be western recruits away. >> a lot of jihadis in rohn are trying to recruit others to their cause in english. the state department felt like it needed to respond in english as well. >> the center's focus is on i.s. with a campaign called think again turn away on twitter, facebook and youtube. >> think again turn away is the
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hash tag that the state department is using on twitter to carry out its mission to point out the inconsistencies in al-qaeda and now the islamic state. >> responding directly to individuals, the center's messages use graphic images to warn would-be recruits that those who join often never come back. t that i.s. grooms children for death, that it rapes innocents and bombs mosques full of muslims. it reminds would-be fighters of the parents who would plead for their return out of the disillusioned recruits that left the site. is the message tainted because it's coming from the american government? mccann, now a scholar at the brook ins institution said it cuts both ways. >> the state department is transparent about who it is invites a lot of anger from people who dislike the united states. but it also invites a lot of attention by virtue of being the u.s. government.
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the state department gets a lot more eyeballs on their message than would otherwise be the case. >> but there are challenges. unlike a missile, it can be hard to know if an online campaign is hitting its target. >> i think it's difficult for the state department to keep up. it has a very limited number of staff with a very limited budget. but the islamic state has thousands of volunteers that are working for it. many of them quite young, many very conversant with the various social media platforms. >> can youtube videos and tweets crack the radicalized minds, dissuading those so convinced of their idea that they are willing to give up their life to fight? azm at that time. >> khan. >> the country has launched airstrikes targeting rebels east of the capitol. efforts to strike a cease-fire deal continue. more from hashimislana.
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>> the capitol has been beset by instability and crippled by the anxiety about what might happen next. now, we know that the international community, particularly the united nations is trying to broker a deal between the government and them. we know there is a agreement about forming a new government with a technoaccurate prime minister and cutting fuel prices by almost 30%. this has been a prerequisite but we know at the same time there is a disagreement about how to implement the deal. the president said he will sign the deal only if the huthis pull out their fighters from the outskirts of the table. they, on the other hand, say it will continue with the protest movement until the deal is fully implemented. hatchem reporting there. a search for a u.s. navy pilot continues in the western pacific ocean after two fighter
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jets crashed in midair thursday, about 2300 miles west of hawaii. the cause of the f-18 hornet jet's crash is understand investigation. the other pilot was rescued and is listed in fair condition. in some parts of the world, expressing political or religious ideas can be dangerous. >> that's a problem that a new social media app is trying to solve. 11 beat allows users to post without leaving a digital trace. users can set a life span for everything they share. the app is not available yet in the u.s. but developers from south asia are hoping to bring it here soon. a report from nepal. >> this is nepal's capitol government. people here like everywhere else love their smartphones and mobile apps. young and old seem to be busy connecting. an online security seems to be on everybody's mind. >> certain things happen. i have had friends who had issues of fake ids being created
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by other people so that's created a lot of problems for them. >> here in catmandu, there is supposed to be a customized twitter without a digital footprint. it means you can set a time for people who have read their posts before they are deleted giving them a chance to express themselves. >> we met the man behind 11 beat, the new app? >> when people say it's deleted, it's deleted for the users but it remains in the server. but we are going to delete it everywhere. >> the app gives a chance for people to express themselves anonymously. he said it will give a new mean to go freedom of speech. >> we have countries where you can speak your mind and you are criminalized for that. one was hard so how can we prevent from the person being
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arrested for that? >> with more than (3) 500-0000 smart phone users in india, 11 beat hopes to capture the market there. but the app still has potential for abuse. the team is working on making it safer and it's looking into launching the product soon. al jazeera, katmandu. >> it has been a long, difficult week for the n.f.l. with the release of the disturbing new video evidence of ray rice's assault on its fiance and child abuse charges against another of the league's top running backs. the issue of domestic violence in sports has become front page news. jessica taft joins us with more while the intersection of sports and cultural issues has never been more front and center than it is right now? >> absolutely. it has taught us anything in professional sports that the powers that be don't necessarily know how to punish domestic violence abusers but they will have to learn sooner rather than later and on all levels of violence.
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>> ray rice has become the face of dom domestic violence in the nfl. he is not the only one accused of abuse. his was just cut on video. the assault to his then fiance has sparked a national debate and put the spotlight on the n.f.l.'s lack of disciplinary action it doled out in comparison to other offenses. rice initially received a 2-game suspension for the assault and never stood trial. according to in general, judiciary data, the pre-trial intervention program the ravens star back was offered in the case involving his wife was granted to less than 1% of all domestic violence assault cases from 2010 to 2013 that were resolved. it took the league a second video for the ravens to release rice and will lead to indefinitely suspend him. while he sits at home, two other n.f.l. players facing domestic abuse charges are both on the field.
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49ers' defensive lineman ray mcdonald was arrested august 31st on suspension of domestic violence against his pregnant fiance. his court hearing scheduled for monday has been postponed while the police continue their investigation. 9ers coach says he is on the field still because of due process as he hasn't been charged. it's a tougher argument in carolina where greg hardy was found guilt of assaulting his ex-girlfriend and thread anything to kill her. despite hearing the chilling 911 audiotape, he remains on the field as he awaits trial while the panthers front office says they will let the legal system play out. in the latest from the vikings, former league mvp adrian petersen indicted and arrested for reckless injury a child. the pictures emerged showed the injuries he gave his 4 -year-old son this past may at his home in texas as punishment for fight with another child over a game. >> a grand jury having indicted this case looked at the injuries
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that were inflicted upon this child and determined that that discipline was not reasonable and did not reflect the community standards of what was reasonable discipline. >> the team has deemed him inacti inactive. petersen turned himself in early saturday morning and was released on $15,000 bail. >> ball isn't the only professional sport with a domestic violence problem tonight. millions are expected to tune in to a pay-per-view on show time to see floyd mayweather, a 2-time domestic offender jumped into the ring this week. he said they over reacted to the ray rice video but i can't can expect any other comment from him as well. >> the journalist put some difficult questions to him last night to which he said, there are no pictures. >> that's what he said about his history of domestic violence. jessica, let's bring in somebody else to move forward with this discussion right now to join us. joining us from palm beach it florida, florida is michael
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shotty, the league writer for "the bleacher report." let's jump in and talk about this. michael, can you put in some perspective the kind of week that the n.f.l. has had? >> you know, the nfl has had some bad weeks before. i think the big parallel that people are drawing is after the jfk assassination, pete rozzel continued to decided to play games that weekend. that was considered even at the time a big mistake. he says he regrets that. that was one of his worst moments as commissioner. this will be will be chopped up as one of roger goodelss as one of the worst of his tenure if not the end of his tenure. >> there are a few issues at play here right? there is the issue of violence against women and children and then a much lesser issue is the image problem that the n.f.l. is having. jessica, i want to put this to
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you: which has the n.f.l. shown that they are actually more concerned about? >> just look at what the n.f.l. has done so far. roger goodell has been so tough. they call him the enforcer on everything else except with this incident with ray rice. he is the only person who has actually gone, he is the only person who has actually given sus -- suspended a player for domestic violence. so they have had issues but they have never had a deal with something of this magnitude. they have ignored it for a while. >> had to or chosen not to? >> chosen to. now, they are at the point where now, it's front and center and when you see things like tmz bringing out the video, essentially we talked about this. tmz is probably the reason why he isn't playing. he has ignored t he is forced to. what he did with ray rice in suspended him sends a message but the fact we have two other players on the field right now
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and again, their teams can do what they want but i think it just tells you that there is a long way to go in this. >> let's go to those issues now. michael is going to join us in just a moment. let's talk about this. let's talk about the choices the teens can make. this information kale down yesterday that adrian petersen had been indicted on injury to a child charges, accused of abusing his 4-year-old son and what happened is the minnesota vikings deactivated him. explain to me, jessica, what that says about the choices the teams can make and would they have made those choices if there weren't so much pesh on teams -- pressure to act because of what is happening with greg hardy and the case that he is facing? what do you think? >> i think the viekdzings are the only ones that can answer that. but this has been an ongoing
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investigation. they deactivated him. he is suspended with pay. they are okay with that. this is what other teams could have done as coal these guys are in the legal process. they are waiting for their time, whether be be court or domestic violence. they say we will let the legal system play out. when you look at the case of hardy, he was already found guilty. he's appealing and still on the field. so, i think you have to give a little kudos to the vikings for acting swiftly in doing that but also, it makes you question, if they have known this for that long, why they took so long. but once pictures emerged and once we started fighting out -- finding out the details and those details came out illegally. in texas law, you are not allowed to give texas child abuse cases. they leaked that.
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>> michael, i understand you are back with me. we spoke this morning on al jazeera to terri o'neill, of course, the president of now. they have been calling this week for n.f.l. commissioner roger goodell to step down. i know you have been tough on him, too. i will play what you said and i want you to respond on the other side. okay? >> it wicertainly ray rice need be held accountable for his actions. there is no question about that. but we have consistently said that the n.f.l. doesn't have just a ray rice problem. the n.f.l. has a violence against women problem. >> michael, knowing what you know about roger goodell and the n.f.l., how likely are they to actually be listening to n.o. w.? who would they listen to? >> i have always said that the nfl is like a ship the sides of the titanic. to turn it, you don't need one voice or 1 organization, you need a million angry voices. >> that's how ray rice was suspended. no one cared before there was a
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video. but when there was a video and there was a visceral reaction to that video, it took quite a bit for that n.f.l. to finally make that right choice. >> i think in this case, sponsors almost have to step forward, too. when sponsors give money to the n.f.l. that allows this to happen, you have that issue as well. so they have to step up as well and make a stand. so this becomes not just an n.f.l. issue. this is across the board. >> michael, let's talk about jessica's point. do you think at some point sponsors will step up and if sponsors do continue to step up, that's when owners may say, you know what? roger goodell has made us a lot of money. but if now you are going to start mess with our money, as the kids say, this be he then maybe we do want roger goodell to leave? what do you think a tipping point might be? >> you know, i hope that happens. and i wish that it would happen. but right now, the n.f.l. is a monolith. it's not moving anywhere. to look at those sponsors most
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companies will care a little bit about doing the right thing but this is a money issue first and foremost. until the n.f.l. has an issue where they are worried about the bottom line, nothing is going to happen to roger goodell and when we watch the nfl tomorrow, the sponsors can say all they want. we might not want to be associated with a league that has these issues, but they want to be associated with a league that has those ratings. >> i have to ask you, michael: why do you think people are so upset now? this is not a new thing there have been athletes arrested for domestic violence before and not necessarily at a higher rate than a non-athlete is but this is not a new thing, an athlete being arrested for domestic
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violence and being on the field, not being punished. >> has happened for years. why do you think people are now sooufldz outraged? and will it be sustained? what do you think? >> when we look at how outrage is formed, i think you have to thread it and i hesitate using that word because i am not sure that the leak of the video from the elevator of ray rice was a positive thing overall but it did have at least one positive affect. >> that's that outrage. no one cared to a great extent. i mean certainly people cared. i am sure you and i were right there on the front lines angry at the n.f.l. for not doing more when they only suspended him two games, but it took that video to have that gut-wrenching reaction because we can hear things as a society and it may be it's the desensetization. maybe it's just, you know, some very old cultural things in our background. we can hear it happen and get mad, but when we see it happen, that's where that gut reaction really took place.
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>> that's what forced this outrage and forced that move by the n.f.l. to suspend him indefinitely and the ravens to release him. it's sad it takes that because we needed the pictures of petersen's young boy, because a lot of people are still defending him after those pictures. >> we wish that we had videos and not just a tape of greg hardy and his issue because honestly, from team to team week to week, this should be a bigger issue. you should care more as a band, as a team owner. it seems like people don't. >> that's sad. >> continue to have this discussion. michael shoties with bleacher report, thank you for joining us. jess thank you for doing that report to set this up. we appreciate it. up next on "al jazeera america," the long-term expense of college has some students reconsidering the idea of higher education.
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with student loans at an all-time high, many are asking: is the cost of college worthy it? alan schofler reports. >> reporter: 18-year-old avery hutchison tackling a nasty job. >> dear jill. >> 34-year-old jill carnine looking for a job but getting a lot of e-mails like this one? >> unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with our c candidacy at this time. >> avery is an apprentice in a 4-year state approved program. jill with a fresh master's degree wants work in arts management. school wasn't cheap you are in debt $70,000. >> yes. yes. i am. >> how does that feel right now? >> terrifying. >> avery tried college for a year but it just didn't take.
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>> what are your college buddies doing this weekend? >> partying and having fun. >> he makes $19 an hour. four years from now, as a journeyman, he could earn more than 60,000 a year, more as he gains skill and experience. >> i am making money already, and working on it. i mean working on get a career, too, but they are not making money while they do it and they have to pay off those debts they get. >> america's total student debt tops $1 trillion. post recession job seekers face a soft employment market and stagnant wages. >> 70% of american college students with 4-year degrees graduate with debt. the level of that debt is $29,000 on average. study after study shows their earning potential is much higher than for those without a degree. dr. bill zameta teaches the economics of education. >> here is another big number.
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$300,000. what does that mean? >> the 300,000 is a conservative estimate of the gains from getting a college degree compared to a high school diploma minus all of the costs of going to college. however costly it is to go to college, ultimately, there is every reason to think that it pays off. >> jill certainly hopes so. she is glad she got the education, but those grad school loans come due in january. zumeta points out advanced degrees carry even greater long-term earning potential than undergraduate degrees but he also emphasizes college and its costs are not a good fit for everyone. >> some post secondary education for most is the way i term it. >> so this is avery's post-secondary education. all of the pipe hauling, part sorting, appliance lifting and ditch digging, he figures, adding off to a head start in adult life? >> you will always need plumbers
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and the same for other professions. >> at some point, everybody needs a plumber. >> yeah. exactly. >> coming up, the work of the invisible man, the art of fading into reality.
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"talk to al jazeera" next only on al jazeera america the northern lights in real life it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. >> that's the case with a chinese aircraft who uses people in his canvas and blends them into their backgrounds. a closer look at his unique art. >> he briefs us on human canv canvass. >> after today, you are like them. more than 100 people have traveled from as far as los angeles and brussels to be here under the 42-year-old artist's
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brush. he is well known for hiding himself until plain sight from his native china to wall street to the local supermarket. but since last year, his work has incorporated more and more people. >> i feel as more people begin to participate, i am able to make a stronger comment on society and social phenomenon. through a larger number of people, i am able to encompass the maingsz and address that. >> for this work, lu addresses desire and agreed. his subjects strike religious poses reminiscent of rents zans art and arepated over with $100. >> it's about the relationship we have with money and the dynamic that is created through this culture of con assumism. >> he photographs east model in their pose and marks with tape where the money will go. he has mixed gallons of paint for consistency and a small army of artists work off of his photographs to bring human canvass to life. it's gruelling for subject and painter. each person takes between six
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and seven hours to paint. >> we are pating for eight hours as and they are standing in these awkward positions. it can be hard on their bodies. >> it's hard, i know. i have in my legs, the pain but i am very curious to see the final result of this work. >> lu's work will ultimately be seen here in the very gallery it was created in. his subjects will have the opportunity to watch themselves disappear into his background. >> for the final work, all 100 models will be digitally combined into a tableau like this one. lu says he hopes people will slow down and think about the things they see every day. it's something that has already happened here. >> it's really beautiful to be cut out from technology for a few hours. lose yourself in your head and you are meditating. >> for lu, it's about creating a work on his largest scale yet in the hopes of amplifying his message. kaelyn forde, al jazeera, new york. >> i am richelle carey.
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