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>> using nukes to save the earth from an asteroid is not science fiction any more. we begin on i.s.i.l. and the capture of a key border town of kobani. two i.s.i.s. flags were raised ominously in the city. kurds moved to turkey. some conditioned -- continued to fight. >> the air strikes have done little. >> we call on everyone to support the fight for kobani, and stand together. >> the fight to keep americans from joining the terrorist group assistance. authorities arrested an illinois teenager trying to board a flight in an airport that would have taken them to vienna. according to a complaint notes were found at the home,
including the words come to jihad. in an interview federal bureau of investigation director says the bureau is doing everything possible to monitor the americans they know are fighting for i.s.i.l. >> reporter: how many americans are fighting in syria on the side of the terrorists? >> in the number of a dozen. >> reporter: do you know who they are? >> yes. >> reporter: every one of them. >> of the dozen, i think i do. i hesitate because i don't know what i don't know. >> joining us douglas ol fant. director of iraq during the bush and obama administrations and served two fours during the iraq war and led the planning team that helped to coordinate the surge. he's a senior national security fellow at the foundation. kobani under siege for three weeks. now i.s.i.l. appears to be taking control.
despite air strikes, the terrorists haven't been stopped. has the coalition failed here? >> well, certainly to all external looks it seems so. maybe there's an internal reason you don't understand. looking at it as an outsider. it's hard to understand why air power couldn't have been used more effectively, particularly against the tanks and artillery pieces. kurdish offenders have none of those. >> the tanks and artillery pieces, they were moving through - through territory that was open. not a lot of trees. these were easily visible. it's inexplicable. it will be interesting to see whether there's an extenuating circumstance. it doesn't look good. what about the kurds.
they have been vocal that the air strikes are hard enough. they are got getting it. ago. >> if you look at this on a map, it's salient in a sea of black. the islamic state controls the turkish border for at least 50 miles on each side of kobani. and this is the last little outpost. it wouldn't be hard to get ammunition to them. obviously, there are concerns between the turks and the kurds. >> what is the deal. they have a whole bunch of tanks and moved more there. this city is within sight, about a mile from the border. it's not as if it's easy for the turks to have done something.
>> not only would they have done something, but let other kurds, it's my understanding that they are being stopped from going back to the town. there are several opportunities, even if the turks don't want to get their own hands dirty. you talked about how they control significant territory on both sides. the reality is they'll control most - they are looking at a map. they are showing an area contested or controlled by i.s.i.l. it's shown most of the border with turkey and into iraq. >> this is a little salient. at a strategic level, it doesn't matter. it matter a lot to the kurd that love there. it seems the humanitarian disaster has unfolded. most of the civilians that have left. they turned into combatants.
it's hard to see an outcome, even if they were able to hold the town, as the map shows, it's a dot in the see of black. it's not like the in habitants will want to go back soon. >> what message does it send not only to i.s.i.l., but the kurds and the rebels, that the coalition starts to take action, bomb in syria, and i.s.i.l. keeps on gaining ground. >> maybe we have misunderstood what is going on in syria. the primary intent is to push i.s.i.l. out of iraq. we are confused about the syrian policy. we haven't had the right proxies. in the kurdish towns to the north, we do. these could have been reinforced. maybe they were missed in the planning. i'm trying to come up with an explanation. it's baffling. >> what happens to the syrian rebels. there are reports that the pentagon is yet to assign anyone.
which ones they trust to be the ground force in syria. >> this is unfolding slowly. we don't have someone to conduct the checks on the syrians, it will be difficult to do this. this is a country that lives on paper records. most of those people live in towns, how do you check a background when there's no paper trail. there's no one to do this. we don't have an moi or mod in iraq, and don't have a military officer. >> you mentioned iraq. there are conflicting reports that i.s.i.l. mortars hit the i.s.i.l. zone, that they are within firing zone of the baghdad airport. on the other hand it seems the u.s. is taking more control and using apache helicopters. >> right. the apache helicopters are the key that something different has
changed. i.s.i.l. has been in baghdad for a period of time. they have been blowing up car bombs, it came down a little bit, it never stopped. there has been cells and enclaves for a long time. the fact that someone took it seriously enough to take the apache helicopter and use them in a direct fire role means that we had an kags that something was -- occasion that something was going bad. a tanker and artillery piece getting closer to the airport. we are determined to keep the line open. >> you heard the federal bureau of investigation director talking about americans, he knows a dozen are fighting in syria, with i.s.i.l. and how many others there could be. there's an illinois teenager, he was about to get on a plane and head over. he left a letter for the parents, saying he was joining i.s.i.l. how concerned are you that this is a growing problem?
>> we should be concerned. there are reports that it was more like 100. the federal bureau of investigation is telling us there's only 12. we know there are hundreds of e.u. citizens. this is something that we need to be concerned about. probably more about the lone wolves in the country. who might decide they want to emulate i.s.i.s., by doing their own independent terrorist attack. it's something for us to be concerned about. >> james said he wanted the lone wolves called lone rats. because that was more accurate. >> i'm with him. >> good to have you with us: on the diplomatic front vice president joe biden had to apologise for comments made at the kennedy school of government.
blaming the allies were helping al qaeda said rise. >> our biggest problem is the allies, they poured hundreds of millions of dollars, tens - thousands of tonnes of weapons into anyone that would fight against bashar al-assad. extent the people who were being supplied were al nusra, al qaeda, and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world. >> for more, i'm joined from paris by christopher dicky who wrote about the controversy in a post entitled vp biden apologises. chris, good to see you. turkey, president recep tayyip erdogan, was enna quotic after hearing biden's rocks, saying:
in response the state department released a statement saying that: you, however, believe that biden was telling the truth, however undiplomatic the truth may be. >> well, yes. i think he is telling the truth about the countries and the supplies to all sorts of organizations that wound up funnelling those arms and funny to i.s.i.s. it is self-supporting, it doesn't need that. in 2012, 2013, there was an effort to build up the opposition. the turks, the emirates, the
saudis were indes criminate about how to do it. it's something that worried the administration, a reason they were reluctant to get involved in building up the anti-bashar al-assad forces. essentially because they feared all that would end up in the hands of terrorists. that is the word that he used, and his apology. i wasn't saying that you were did. >> not completely an apology, although he gave a call to recep tayyip erdogan. biden made comments about turkey, qatar and saudi arabia. let's listen to some of that. >> now saudi arabia stopped the funding going in. saudi arabia is allowing training on its soil of american forces under title 10, open training. the qataris cut off the support
for the most extreme elements of the terrorist organizations, and the turks, president recep tayyip erdogan told me - he's an old friend, saying you were right, we let too many people through, now they are trying to seal the border. >> qatar and saudi arabia haven't commented, but the white house said recep tayyip erdogan's comments were mischaracterised. >> it isn't clear. i think he's saying pretty much what he heard recep tayyip erdogan say. although, you know how conversations are. biden may have said to recep tayyip erdogan "hey, you let a lot of these guy throughs", and maybe recep tayyip erdogan shrugged and said, "maybe", and that's now joe biden rewriting the conversation. who nose. the fact is recep tayyip erdogan let a lot of people through, thousands. you couldn't go to the border
region without seeing young jihadis, men and women, waiting to be taken into syria, and the turks turned a blind eye to that. now they are paying the price of it. >> and also cross-border operations to sell oil and finance itself. i.s.i.l. >> and they are still doing that. i mean, right now you have a dramatic situation around kobani. it's a kurdish down about to fall to i.s.i.s. everyone can see it from the turkish side. 32 turkish tanks are lined up on the border. they are sitting there, not doing anything. defeated. >> turkey has been, at best, a reluctant partner. could biden's remarks risk any more for from the turks.
seeing what happened, they have done nothing. >> it is clear before that they were going to do nothing. there were headlines saying the parliament passed a law that says they can move their troops into turkey. as soon as they passed a law, they said that they would not do it. there's a certain effort by biden, consciously, unconsciously to shame the turks and some of these countries, and he said that they have all woken up to the threat in i.s.i.s. poses. >> i think the saudis are clear about that. the qataris are clear, and the united arab emirates. it's not obvious that the turks are clear, that i.s.i.s. is a bigger threat to them than bashar al-assad, or their own kurdish population. that is a big part of the problem. >> as mentioned, the united arab emirates, they demanded clarification. one thing that this does raise,
and some allies raised is that much of this would not have happened had the united states helped to arm the moderate syrian rebels, how much blame in all this should go to the u.s.? >> i don't know, i don't know. that's now a hypothetical situation. lots of people said we should arm the moderate syrian rebels. i think there were doubt within a lot of the administration, among a lot of people in the administration, key decision makers, the president himself, about the wisdom of doing that. i think the theatre all along was you start arming the people you think are the moderates, and the real hard liners, the crazies defeat them and take their arms, or buy their arms or enlist them in their own cause. that is as old as the history of
american interventions in the middle east, as hold as the history of americans training different armies to do their bidding or serve what is thought of as the general global interest. this the end you have local priorities taking precedence, and all the training goes to nought. we saw it in the '80s, and i think it happened again and again. we saw it with the iraqi army, trained at the cost of billions of dollars, and then prime minister maliki tried to turn it into the own thiefdom. if they couldn't train up the iraqi army, everyone said it would be an okay government in iraq. the idea that you can take a lot of - miscellaneous motley crew of freedom fighters, train them
up and it would be okay is naive. it's a terrible, intractable situation. i don't think it was an obvious solution about would have, could have, should have, and what the obama will face in 2012. >> a lot of people are dying. millions of refugees are displaced. good to have you with us. now for more stories from around the world. we begin in brazil where more than 150 million people went to their country's presidential election. incumbent president dilma rousseff led the way receiving 42% of the vote. because she failed to receive more than half, there'll need to be a run-off election in three weeks. the tenure has been marred by protests over how billions in the world cup and olympics was sent.
a senator will be an opponent. they'll finish second with 34% of the vote. >> next to mexico, 43 college students vanished, an anonymous tip led police to a mass grave. the students had been protesting sweeping reforms when police and gang members opened fire on buses, killing and injuring 17. 30 people have been arrested. authorities stressed not to speculate on the identity of the newly found bodies. identifying them could take months as they were badly burnt. >> we head to hamilton, where a 4-year-old boy's death was the first linked. eli waller had a case of pink eye when he went to bed. he never woke up. monday the medical examiner declared that the brain and lymph node swelling that killed
him was a result of the virus. four others that tested positive had died. the c.d.c. is trying to determine what role the virus played in his doth. more than 43 cases have been confirmed. that's some of what is happening around the world. the u.s. will step up screenings for an ebola virus, and declares the disease a top priority. a surprise non-decision by the supreme court opens the blood gates for america. >> harmeli aregawi, is tracking stories on the web. >> a pan handler not as desperate as she appears to be has turned up. if you want to hear about the
o president obama declared ebola a top national security matter on monday. >> we have learnt lessons in terms of what happened in dallas. one of the things we discussed is how we can make sure we are spreading the word across hospitals, clinics, any place where a patient might first come in contact with a medical worker to make sure they know what to look out for. >> this is it governor rick perry announcing a task force, saying the federal government need to do more. in dallas, thomas eric duncan is getting an experimental drug to help fight the disease. he's in critical but stable condition. the freelance cameraman who attracted the disease walked into a nebraska hospital. he is able to receive an experimental drug.
while president obama tried to project calm, the first reported case outside of africa was reported in spain. a nurse who cared for two people flown to madrid from west africa tested positive to the disease. >> we go to dallas, to a doctor from the center for disease control and is currently a professor of public health, and a staff writer for the news. good to see you. lots of ebola news on monday. let's start in dallas. thomas eric duncan is getting an experimental antiviral drug. his nephew told al jazeera's "america tonight", his uncle's condition is to trail, when he visited, they were trying to communicate over closed circuit camera. is there a sense of how much the antiviral drugs might help? >> they are experimental drugs. that's the most important thing to remember.
already. another is tkmebola, still experimental and can make the patient sicker to begin with. the one that thomas eric duncan will receive hasn't been tested in animals or humans, and has done well in lab tests. it's hard to note. these doses are being given to a few humans, not constituting a proper testing protocol. >> ashoka mukpo, the n.b.c. cameraman, he is getting an experimental treatment. he talked about and believes he may have been infected because he was disinfecting a vehicle where someone died from the disease. if that is the case, does it raise concerns about how long
the virus can survive outside a human host. >> he said to his father it could have been when he was spray washing his car, and he added that he was not sure. he had been in ebola clinics and patient for three years. it's hard to say, what was the specific ebola. in terms of your question, we know the virus can survive on some surfaces for a few hours or days. we had to have direct contact with the fluids, and it can be easily disinfected with things like bleach. >> they have to do more, but there's little indication from the federal government that that will happen. the president wants greater screening, what do you think we might see from people coming from west africa. >> there are screening primes in liberia.
thomas eric duncan had his temperature taken as he boarded the plane. there are talks of screening u.s. airports. or fill out questions about have you been in an ebola area. the key thing is though protect america, europe, we have to deal with the epidemic in west africa. that's the hot zone. and to deal with the epidemic, we have to be work ners there. we have to get medical aid and supply there. if we limit travel, the risk we run is not effectively stopping the outbreak in west africa. >> where it needs to be stopped. we learnt that a nurse that had cared for two patients, they were infected and flown to spain. both of patients died. biosafety is not as good in
spain as the united states. it seemed as if the spaniard were being very careful. the big concern is then if this can happen in spain, if some ebola patients end up in third world countries where there's worse biosafety, that the problem could get bigger there. >> there's a participation for that. that's why it's important to follow guidelines and the protocol. some of these guidelines mean when you put on the protected equipment, there's another health care worker that checks you over, head to toe, make sure you are protected, and when you come out of seeing the patient, you take everything off in a careful way, in a specific matter. with this nursing assistant in spain infected, we don't know the guidelines followed. there's always the process of human area, the potential. it's important to pay attention to protocol. >> a survey by national nurses
united of 400 nurses and 200 hospitals in 25 states - 60% their hospital is not prepared to handle patients with ebola, 80% said the hospital has not communicated a policy regarding the admission of patients with ebola. does that surprise you? >> i heard the same here in dallas a few days ago. someone said that a lot of colleagues were worried. what they did was put on new training, making sure that they spoke and said "this is what they are going to do", they said let's imagine an ebola patient in the e.r., walked in. let's practice and go over what happened. definitely talking to health care workers, training and
retraining people until they are comfortable is key. >> important points. great to have you with us. thank you. >> turning to a major non-decision by the supreme court. same-sex couples started marrying monday afternoon, not long after the justices opened the fall term by declining to review same-sex marriage cases by five states. virginia, oklahoma, wisconsin and utah. in the cases federal appeals court rulings held that state laws banning same-sex marriage were unconstitutional. the high court is allowing same-sex marriages in those states to go forward. six other states where those appeal courts had jurisdiction will almost certainly follow the precedent and allow same-sex marriages as well. >> for more, i'm joined in new york by al jazeera legal contributor, jamie floyd. great to see you. >> great to see you.
>> most of what is written is describing court observers as stunned. are you surprised? >> i'm never wrong, but today i was wrong. i said on al jazeera america that they had take a case, lo and behold they did not. i have to say, in not deciding a gay marriage case, they essentially made a big decision. now the marriages have already started, people lining up within hours of hearing that the court would not rule. it means that the law would go into effect in places where stays are in case. they are listed in places where there was a ban and where gay marriage was legal. it goes and the supreme court takes a case, and the experts agree that the supreme court will pass. >> pass, you mean... >> not pass, will
make the ruling. >> it's a significant pass. all have been in agreement and truck a man on gay marriage. why should we take it. >> that's right. we were a little arrogant now that i look back on it. i was in good company. no one thought that the supreme court would not take a gay marriage case. the number one thing they look for is conflict in the lower court. there was no conflict. every circuit that looked at this ruled in the same way. had essentially sided with gay marriage advocates. the reason we thought they would take it, it's a huge issue, it's a legacy issue for john roberts, his 10th year as chief justice. this is unusual. not some were opponents of gay marriage asking them to take, but proponents who had won were
asking them to take the case. everyone wanted them to take the case and rule one way for another on gay marriage. they thought it. >> because they wanted clarity from the supreme court. the only way to get clarity from the supreme court, assuming be need it. the only way to get clarity is if some federal appeals court decides to uphold the ban so that the law... >> yes. >> the conflict begins. >> there's a place that could happen, that's louisiana. it's kicking around down there. the district court ruled. court. >> it's more conservative. >> and many say they'll rule the other day. justice ginsberger in a speak likened it to loving versus virginia, the seminal case. it kicked around for years before the court took that case,
and she suggested that this issue will do the same. >> let's go down the list of what is going on. with the ruling, the number of states allowing same-sex marriage moves from 19 to 24. they are all states bound by federal court rulings, that had struck down the gay marriage bans. >> 30 states. >> with 30 states, has the fat lady sung, is it over. >> she's singing. i like what the governor of utah said. he said "this is what the law is as of now." we should treat each other with respect and kindness, until we see a reason act differently under the law of the land. a law which the supreme court will ultimately make or may not.
we must do what the law of land repairs, and do it respectfully and kindly and treat each other with respect and dignity. >> that's in utah. that's the way it should proceed. i think we have clarity even though they chose not to take one of seven cases. >> one of the things involves facebook. there's a couple of layers. the court agreed to look at a case about whether violent images can be something that is considered a truth, threat or if it's constitutionally protected free speech. a virginia supreme court ruled about the liking issue, when you like something on facebook. they said that you are free to do what you want. party. >> facebook and first amendment, and social media and first amendment. we'll see more and more of that in front of the court.
this case that is in front of the u.s. supreme court with the first amendment is fascinating. this man spent 44 months in prison based on what she said in public. facebook. >> it was pretty ugly. >> he linked it to wrap music, he said he was an aspiring artist, he made threats against a detective, his wife, a kindergarten class - but he said it was art. the court is f reserved on these cases. it will be a new ball of wax. we'll see more and more of it. >> on free speech and other issues in the future. we'll see a lot more on social media. good to see you. >> time to see what is trending on the web.
>> an elderly woman known for pan handling in oklahoma city, had a lot of people questioning whether she is so needy. daniel was not happy finding the 78-year-old who he gave money too getting into what appears to be a new car. a woman duped also caught the conversation on camera. >> you asked people for money, and you drive a 2013 car. i gave you $3 every day, $2. i work hard for my money. i don't appreciate [ beeping ] . that's why people like you take advantage of people like me. >> the video has been viral. the elderly woman was on the streets monday asking for money attention. >> i don't have no car. get away from me right now. >> a lot of people are weighing in on facebook. many like this:
steve has a different perspective saying: the woman's family says he has a pan handling licence and is not doing anything illegal. we posted the story on facebook. let us know what you think. a lot of passionate reactions to the video. >> thank you. straight ahead - where is kim jong un. is he still running north korea? the growing questions about why he hasn't been seen in public for a month. robert denearo is to be honoured -- de niro is to be honoured and insulted at the same time.
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what is really going on. gordon chang is a contributor to "the daily beast", amongst others. you asked if kim jong un had been toppled. what do you see is the biggest happened? >> the absence, of course, is important. during the absence there was a supreme people's meeting. he never missed that. if he was in bad health they would have postponed. there's no travel permits in or out of the city. that's a problem. there's a number of promotions recently, and a consolidation of power among a small group of generals. that is interesting. you put a lot of occurrences since july when there were oreports that the officials -- there were reports that officials were not reporting to
kim jong un. you build a case, we don't know what happened, but we can tell it's not consistent with reports of a strong leader. >> he is a sports nut, and his in-games athletes with a terrific performance came back to a great celebration, no kim jong un. >> missed that. >> an indicator of issues. you are talking about the military and whether he is in control. he has conducted all sorts of purges, more so - the turmoil that north korea has not seen since the 1950s. >> especially since the execution of his uncle in mid december, that was important, because he had a patronage network spanning the country. they have gone after jeong and his network, creating problems. when you have blood, it demand more blood, and that will be the issue. there's too much turbulence in
the senior ranks. >> he kept changing. >> the army chief of staff. he's basically changed the top half of the regime once. that shows that there's no consolidation of power. if there were, he'd stop purging and killing people. >> the number two oh emerged, which normally we don't talk about number twos, it's the supreme leader. he travels to south korea for meetings with the south koreans. there. >> this was fascinating, a one-day trip, there was an 11-member delegation headed by a general who consolidated power, hwang pyong-so. it has the hallmarks. north korea doing a deal with the south. it means maybe they are trying to cut a deal because they realise the problems that they are in. kim jong un should have been on top of this.
we haven't seen evidence. a real important indicator is friday, the anniversary of the founding of the korean workers party, there'll be a reviewing stand. if he's there, he maybe has rehabilitate. if he's not there, we know wrong. >> we'll know in a few days. going back to what you said about south korea and whether this is an opening, you quote a russian scholar who studied in north korea, an expert, saying the visit was part of an ongoing charm offensive by north korea to improve relations to the rest of the world. my reaction was when did that happen? after all the nuclear tests and a lot of threats to the united states, i haven't noticed the charm offensive. did i miss something? >> north korea had a rupture of relations with south korea.
they have to build ties because they need an alternate source of support. i think it was more to do with politics of one sort or another. it was an unusual trip. if you have a series of unusual occurrences, that's the narrative we have of kim jong un, quickly consolidating control. that can't be true. fascinating. hopefully we'll have answers in the next few days. before we go, you are an expert in china. we'll talk about what is going on in hong kong. it looks like the processes fizzled out. or mostly fizzled out. >> there's a couple of hundred people in the center of the city. there's a couple of things that work. one is exhaustion. some of the kids have been on the streets for 12 days, many for a week. there's a strategic retreat on the part of the student.
they are talking to the hong kong government, and china. there's a sense that the students should lay low while the talks continue. people do not want to see big demonstrations. it's a strategic clever move on the part of students. these generations - they have 200 people, 200,000 in 24 hours. retreat. >> the crowd has grown, contracted and grown, depending on events. this is not over by any means. >> as always, good to have you with us. >> thank you. coming up, ripped from the pages of a hollywood screen plain. the u.s. is considering going after asteroids with nuclear war heads. first, the fryer's club is set >> this saturday, a horrific outbreak. >> the death toll from this epidemic could be much higher than anyone knows. >> the search for answers. >> 8000 people are already dead,
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today's data dive goes for some laughs. the friars club will give robert de niro, the entertainment award. only the fifth person to receive the honour. he'll be roasted by friends and comedians in a closed door event. the friars club was founded in 1904 but not by comedians, a group of press ates met to ban a number of free loaders who made their way on to the list for broad way ticket. they had so much fun they scheduled more meetings. actors and musicians joined in. it became
paternal. friars named after brother. they began to hold lavish dinners, becoming the roasts. the first celebrity roasted was a french entertainer in 1949. the behind closed door roasts involved a who's who of show business. others copied the idea. in 1973 dean martin's variety show on n.b.c.s was struggling so he made it into a weekly roast. leading to a decade of specials. >> when i learnt we were honouring governor regan, the first thing i did was call all his friends. that didn't take too long. >> in 1998 comedy central began airing the friar's club roasts. they produced their own specials in the same body spirit when that contract ended. >> this is about hugh heffner, a living legend, and look at your girlfriends, so beautiful.
when are you going to get serious. one day you might want one of them changing diapers, i mean, yourself. as the friars say, they only roast the ones they love. i'm not sure you want to be loved by them. coming up, is the u.s. going to use old nuclear war heads to >> kentucky, a state that's hurting economically. >> when the mines shut down it affects other businesses too you know, it hurts everything. >> some say it's time for a change. >> mitch has been in there so long. >> while others want to stay the course. >> all the way mitch! you know exactly what these people needs in kentucky. >> communities trying to cope. what does the future hold? >> the economy, the struggling coal industry and healthcare are all impacting their vote. >> "america votes 2014 / fed up in kentucky". all this week. only on al jazeera america.
in another headlines ripped from a movie, n.a.s.a. is investigating putting astronauts into space for a long trip to mars - for example or fat. >> joining us is dr derrick pitts from franklin institute science museum. the idea of nuking asteroids is not knew, we saw it in "armageddon", it's not far-fetched. i thought it could make things worse by turning one dangerous object into many. >> i think you are right on the money with that. that's correct. you have to use a nuclear warhead that could obliterate the object. get rid of it altogether. not only break up the pieces, but blast the pieces into dust. the questions, of course, remain what are we looking at for on asteroid. do we have a nuclear warhead
large enough to do the job. and there are bigger questions to be asked, and they revolve around do we have a protection system far enough out, early enough to get the launching system together, and send the nuclear warhead out to meet it before it reaches the section of the solar system. along with the questions that i had, about whether or not the launch systems for the nuclear missiles are viable for use in a space environment. we have to ask the question about how early can we detect enough. >> more than 1400 asteroids have been identified. those are big ones, none expected to hit the earth in the next 100 years or go. the problem is they could be disastrous, and a midsent report said they didn't want to detract
the asteroids. identified. >> the after i said, ones that are 50 foot, up to 300 in size are the ones we have to watch out for. our ability to detect them is getting better. it's not as good as it needs to be. those are the ones that can really destroy a regent, if you will. if one can reach the surface of the earth. it didn't get to the surface, but caused a bit of damage. those are the ones that we have to watch out for. if we go back to the nuclear issue, if it's that small, are we going to have a warhead to do what we need to do early enough to have the discovery, the effect he needs to have. >> they'll look at other option, but again you need the advance notice. i want to talk about the other
sci-fi news that second could be reality. we are talking about human supposes, hyper sleep. n.a.s.a. is looking at a study by a company called space works. what they are talking about is if they send people to mars, they put them in spaces for a 6-month journey. i didn't know that was a biological possibility. >> yes, that's a good one. i didn't realise it was a biological possibility. i knew a little about suppressing body texture. what this points to is that i think n.a.s.a. is beginning to understand and grapple with the fact that if we are thinking about deep space journeys into the solar system, a major issue we'll have to deal with is how long it will take spacecraft to travel the distances. for example, those sent to scrooup ter, sat -- jupiter,
saturn, pluto, fake a decade -- take a decade to reach those destinations. if we have people travel of course, we have to think of the best way to deal with that. when we look at this, we have to wonder, what happens if the life support fails, is part of the crew asleep, do some remain awake. all sorts of things along those lines as well as when do we start the testing on the ground to see how well the system works. >> because the bodies will be cool, maintained. make the trip manageable. it's an interesting theory. if it makes travel to mars possible. it would be exciting. >> that's all for now. coming up tuesday on "consider this", a shocking first-hand account of the link between drug
trafficking and terrorists. a d.e.a. agent, with much experience joins us. join us on facebook, twitter, the price of crude is falling thanks to parts of the u.s. frac-ing boom. but lower oil prices are also fuelling tensions between producers overseas. we will explain. also a lawsuit claims the u.s. government broke the law with its bailout of insurance giant aig. plus the hotel landmark now belongs to china. i'm david shuster in for ali money." ♪