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>> weekday mornings on a devastating report from the w.h.o. on ebola says that by december we could see 10,000 new cases every week. also, did the joint chiefs admit i.s.i.l. is winning the war, and how federal aid to college students could send tuitions soaring. hi, i'm antonio mora, and welcome to "consider this". those stories and more ahead. dire new predictions on
ebola. west africa can see 10,000 new cases. >> for any hospital with a confirmed case, we will put a team on the ground within hours. >> turkish war planes bombed p.k.k. elements. >> turkey is attacking that element. >> mitch mcconnell squaring off with alison lundergan grimes. >> she's made a major effort to conceive the people of kentucky. >> who'll pay for an employee to freeze her ex. >> the best thing for the companies to be doing is provide an environment where people can have a family. >> what happens when security collides with a right to now. >> will you divulge your snours. >> no. >> players are accused of sexually hazing younger athletes. >> where were the coaches here. >> we begin with a grim projection from the world health
organisation, the ebola outbreak in west africa is spreading to quickly there could be 10,000 new cases every week by december. >> could be higher, lower. you know, but it's going to be somewhere in that ballpark. >> the w.h.o. added that ebola is spreading geographically and more deadly than originally believed with a mortality rate of 70%, and the country most impacted, guinea, sierra leone, and liberia. it's 8,914 cases is the number today. we'll go over 9,000 cases this week. the trend as you can see, the in the of reported deaths are 4,447 as of this morning. >> that new death toll is hundreds more than the 4024 announced on friday, underscoring the deadly spread of the disease. on tuesday many countries that have the capacity to help have
not step upped to fight the outbreak. >> the world is not doing enough. the transmission of this disease affects all of us. with respect to ebola in the united states, we are surging resources into dallas to xim what exactly has happened, that ended up infecting the engineers there. >> that nurse, 26-year-old nina pham released a statement on tuesday saying she is doing well. it's unclear how she contracted the disease, while treating thomas eric duncan. c.d.c. cannot rule out that others may have been exposed. for more, we are joined from miami florida. doctors who have returned from a trip to nigeria, and she is a professor of infectious diseases, specialising in
tropical medicine, infectious disease. >> you've just returned from nigeria, which has done a good job they have contained a small outbreak that occurred there. for guinea, sierra leone and liberia, it's unstoppable. we have fewer than 10,000 cases now. we can be seeing 10,000 every week. it's alarming. how confident are you that a full-out effort can prevent that. i do think that a full-out effort is absolutely critical, and it will start to reduce those numbers from what are currently predicted. if we don't have that, unfortunately the numbers that the world health organisation has quoted you will likely come to pass. >> the w.h.o., and president obama said if we don't get what we are talking about, more money and resources to the source of the outbreak, that the result
will impact all of us. do you think we are going to see a response that is quick enough to arrest the increase that we are talking about. >> i hope so. every nation of the world needs to understand that this is a very deadly disease, a very frightening disease, and one that wants it in an urban area, has a preproductive rate of somewhere between 2 and 6, which is a high rate of contain john between people. it's not high in a rural area, it's a rate of only one. now that it's in an urban area, and it's out of control in three countries, that is why you are seeing figures like this, and why it's so frightening and urgent. >> which makes it more incredible that they were able to stop it, because lagos is densely populated, one of the largest cities in the world.
your role was to organise the screening of travellers. when you return from nigeria, i heard that you were incredualous that you weren't stepped when you stopped in germany and then the united states, and you weren't checked in the united states. we have checkpoints at five major airports, do you think we are doing enough to make sure that we manage to stop people who might be on their way here, and have ebola? >> it's an important thing what we are doing, because those are five very important airports, very key entrance points for the united states, and it will certainly help in the sense that anyone who between their exit screens in africa - during the flight becomes infected, that individual is stopped. there is the latent infection,
the individual in the window, who doesn't have symptoms and doesn't know, who came from an area, that has been exposed and that can enter a country in a manner similar to dallas. the more it spreads, the greater the danger for the rest of the world - how concerned are you? >> it's up at the edge with cotibeaux. the communities there - they don't see the borders the way the colonialists that develop them do. >> and the c.d.c. is revising guidelines for health care workers, telling hospitals to think ebola, which sounds like it's up to every individual healthcare worker and hospital to take control of this, and two weeks after thomas eric duncan
was diagnosed, we've got a c.b.c. ebola response team being sent to dallas and other future hospitals, with so many unanswered questions about what happened there. so much concern amouption workers and first responders. how can health care workers feel safe after the experience in dallas. >> there's a lot to that question. and part of it is it really takes intense training and retraining and retraining to be very good at putting on the appointment pe appropriately, and taking it off appropriately. we have to come to a standard in the united states for that. we have wonderful places in the united states, well-trained people in particular parts of the united states, such as atlanta. such assist in fredrik, maryland, and in parts of texas. but that is not enough for what is going on. someone that does not know
they've been exposed and is symptomatic. the president is correct in that every health care workers has to have this in their mind, and think of it, and maybe not necessarily treat the patient at that facility, but be ready to isolate the patient while that patient is transferred and have the wherewithal and the training to be able to maintain that patient appropriately, and transfer the patient safely to a center. >> so many concerns in the u.s. the major concerns in africa, let's hope the effort bears fruit. it's a pleasure to have you with us. >> my pleasure. >> moving on to i.s.i.l., turkish war planes wept on the attack. they attacked kurdish fighters in turkey from the p.k.k. a group with strong ties to the kurds fighting i.s.i.l. in kobane.
the kobane kurds have been helped by 21 coalition air strikes against i.s.i.l. tuesday president obama met with military leaders from 20 coalition neighbours at the andrews base in maryland. we are concerned about the situation around the syrian town of kobane. which underscores the threat that i.s.i.l. poses in iraq and syria. coalition air strikes will continue in these areas. >> for more i'm joined by doug louse ollivant. he served two tours and led the team that coordinated the surge. he's a senior fellow at the new american foundation. >> good to see you. after the conference at and rurks the joint chiefs released a statement saying while i.s.i.l. has tactical momentum, the coalition has strategic
momentum. talking about the tactical momentum, is that a way to admit that capitol hill is winning. >> it's a -- that i.s.i.l. is winning. >> i.s.i.l. got a head start. they have been able to achieve their objectives, swept through, fainted towards erbil, pushed to baghdad, and we are getting the coalition in place with all the difficulties mentioned to push back. >> what about a strategic moment. the president said, talking about the coalition, more than 60 countries have joined. >> as with a military effort, there are days of progress and periods of setback. the coalition is united behind this long-term effort. >> with so many nations, so many different agendas, how optimistic are you that this coalition will be able to hold
together for really what seems, and what the president is saying is going to be a long war. >> in the region, the number of conflicting agendas is legend. the turks are willing to assist with the anti-i.s.i.l. effort now. as we have seen lately the p.k.k. and the bashar al-assad regime are two groups that are higher on the priority list. they had to choose between fighting the p.k.k. and fighting bashar al-assad, and fighting i.s.i.l., it's 1, 2, 3 in that order. there'll be a problematic partner as they move forward. let's talk about turkey and the p.k.k. because this is the first time there has been this kind of hostilities inside turkey, bombing them after the group shelled a base. it's the first time in a couple of years since the peace process starred. do you think the kurds will be helpful because the p.k.k. is
affiliated with the people fighting for kobane. the p.k.k. itself was the group that was instrumental in the breakthrough. it gets so, so complicated. what does it mean for turkey and iraq's kurds. i wish i had the answer to any of these questions. it shows so complicated -- how complicated the 3-game chess board is. you have to feel bad for the president as he holds it together. talking about the different agendas, iraq's prime minister repeated that no foreign ground forces would be allowed. it doesn't seem any will be sent anyway. i heard an analyst say without ground forces this is an exercise in utility. how long do you think it will be before we see any serious combat troops, and where will they come from? >> the troops have to come from
the countries on the ground. from the iraqis, the arab and the kurdish side. injecting u.s. and other western troops into this was so royal this troubled waters, that i think it's inadvisable at this time, unless we reach a real crisis point that we are not at yet. >> the kurds and kobane managed to take a strategic hill. let's talk about what is happening in anbar province much the president mentioned his concern, i.s.i.l. makes gain, they could threaten baghdad. the general's army chief of staff was asked about that tuesday, and he said this:. >> i believe the capability i is there to defend baghdad. >> that doesn't sound terribly confident. on top of that there's a minor disaster going on in baghdad.
77 people killed in suicide bombings. >> that's a reality that baghdad is used to. part of the news cycle on baghdad and anbar is partially news correspondents getting there, catching up with old news. i was in baghdad in march to be at a conference dealing with the i.s.i.l. problem in anbar. they were concerned about it then. talks of i.s.i.l. being outside the airport, and outside abu ghraib, they've been there since march. this is something that baghdad is used to. i called friends today. they were out shopping. there's an moi compound in abu ghraib. people are going to work there. this is a reality that the baghdadies are used to. the baghdad airport in the western suburbs of baghdad is very close to anbar provins. they are accustomed to the
border. >> it must be difficult to live under those circumstances, i guess humans can get used to all sorts of terrible situations. >> now for more stories from around the world. >> we begin in hong kong where police officers clash with pro-democracy protesters, this time at an underpass near city headquarters. the officers - many wearing riot gear destroyed barricades and arrested protesters. it's the third day of operations by authorities who insist they are only interested in removing barricades blocking traffic. and they have no plans to clear the process sites completely. next we head to abuja and nigeria, where people rallied to mark the abduction of 279 schoolgirls by boko haram terrorists in north-east nigeria. the girls were seized from the
secondary school dormitories in a remote town. while a few dozen girls escaped, nothing has been seen or heard from those held. meanwhile back-channel talks with the terrorist leaders have stalled. >> we head to silicon valley where apple announces as part of gen fits for employees, they will pay for women who want to freeze their legs. -- freeze their eggs. each prepare is worth $10,000, two are covered. apple wanted to empower women to do the best work of their lives as they care for loved ones and raise their families. that's some of what is happening around the world. coming up, why are democrats pulling money out of a race which is their best hope to upseed a sitting republican senator. >> also, how far will you go to fight for your principles. a reporter faces gaol time joins us.
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about failing to run the c.d.c. and using the c.d.c. to question the president's leadership. we are joined by al jazeera political correspondent michael shure. let's start with this politicizing of the ebola crisis from both sides. republicans are folding it into another indictment. the democrats are fighting back. let's look at a new add from the agenda project action fund. >> washington actually can cut spending. >> the c.d.c. said discretionary funding has been cut by $85 million. >> cut less cost. >> cut. >> our budget has been slashed. responding to a disease threat is damaging. >> that will run in a handful of states, is there a danger that democrats could be seep as
politicizing ebola, and that could be a risky move. >> i don't know that anyone will get the blame. the republicans will talk about the response to this as they are doing with foreign policy crisis, the democrats say listen, you didn't give us a surgeon germ, and you bad mathed obama care. so your bone afides on health care are not so great. the republicans are going to do what hillary clinton says in the primaries. the phone rings "is this the guy you want responding to a crisis." that's the way it's going. >> john mccain is calling for ebola - a subtle way of saying the president is failing in his leadership. conservatives and some democrats are macking a lot -- making a lot of noise about the president not taking stronger action. polls show a large majority of
americans agree that that could be an issue that hurts him. >> talking about john mccain for a moment. he's asking for an ebolla sar, he's got giving the president a chance to approve. getting to your question, this makes up elections, clear and present danger. this is a clear and present danger. what do you do? >> you analyse the way the president responded, what he could have done, and you do quarterbacking. you see a lot of graphics coming out with flight patterns, how it got to spain and texas and respond to that. the public follows. this is in the news cycle. it helps when you see an efficiency and are able to outline that. >> is that a case where the president is dammed if he does, and damned if he doesn't. if he hadn't come out and said we've got this under control, if he had raised an alarm it would
have been worse. >> i think yes, and with this president who seems to do whatever it is that he does, he's dammed if he does, and damned if he doesn't. i don't know if there's a president of damning that we have seen in this administration. >> let's move on to the senate. the fight - nowhere is it more intense, that's the only state where the incumbent is seen as impossible. he had his only debate with alison lundergan grimes last night. let's listen to that. >> why are you reluctant to give an answer on whether or not you voted for president obama. >> there's no reluctancy, this is a matter of principal. our constitution grants a right for privacy at the ballot box. >> evasiveness about whether she voted for president has been a big deal for a week. who is advising her?
>> it was a curious thing that at the debate she didn't clear it up. it was an awkward debate and mcconnell was harping on that. it obscured the points, valid points she was making about her opponent and mitch mcconnell. and votes that he has made. it tracked this to the forefront of what the issue is. you heard that democrats pulled money out of kentucky. i don't think it was a response to her performance or response on this issue. >> you don't thing so. they had invested a lot of money. they had been hopeful. by pulling out it seems they've given up. >> a lot of resources they have put into the state goes to putting out the vote. i talked to some elected. the concentration is going to be get out the vote. there's not a lot of space to buy more ads. a lot are bought up.
they are focussing on other states as well that they didn't think were in play. they only have so much funny spending in georgia might behove them to do that. >> most of the republicans have a good chance of taking control. in recent days the numbers are going up, as to the republicans chances of taking control. it's starting to look more and more like the republicans certainly, "new york times" upshot says they have a 68% chance of retaking the senate. some estimates are higher. >> i would argue if anything it looks a little better. if i was a democrat i never would have been optimistic, that georgia, south dakota, and kansas would have been in the conversation. i don't think there were too many democrats optimistic about mitch mcconnell losing. it never looked good for the democrats. it looked better, but not good for them. the numbers and percentages.
all you have to do is go around the map. they are very disappointed with the senator in louisiana, the way her campaign has gone. >> how much of a difference will it make. americans seem to be interested in the midterm election, if they take the senate. the president has the veto. how much of a difference does it make in the last two years of his presidency. >> it makes a big difference. everything impacts the next two years, and they'll be full of surprises and full of moments that they have to react too. >> michael shure as always, great to have you with us. >> politicians may come and go. 13 years after nech, the war an terror goes on with hidden costs. from veterans to warrantless americans. osama bin laden is dead, according to journalist james ric ricen, the security complex to
bet al qaeda has a life of its own, millions benefitting on an endless war. i'm joined by pulitzer prize-winning "new york times" david ricen. his reporting resulted in various subpoenas. great to have you on the show. the title of the book comes from john f kennedy's speech where he said americans would pay any price to ensure the price of liberty. your argument is that we've paid a high price and list stories of are corruption and crazy. >> we've fought a war for 13 years, the longest continuous period of war in historiy, and poured hundreds of billions into it without much thought, with little oversight.
and we have had e-norms unintended consequences. >> how much different is it from prior wars. has there not been this much in other wars. >> yes, there has been war-time corruption and gambling and hustlers that wanted to take advantage. situation, but those were finite periods. wars would start and end. now we have an endless war, and a period in which there is virtually no end in site to what we are doing. it seems like there's yet another terrorist group that we are going to fight. osama bin laden was killed, and we thought al qaeda was dead now. there's suddenly a new threat this everybody is getting hyped up about. >> among the many stories you have in this book that are really shocking. one involves las vegas hustler named dennis montgomery.
this is a guy that decided he had an ability to find hidden messages, including ones that aired on al jazeera, and he could find hidden messages. it was crazy on its face, the government spent millions, before figuring out he was a hustler. >> the al jazeera banner was part of the video tape from al jazeera, that he and the c.i.a. came to believe they could read al qaeda-coded messages in. this, believe it or not, the c.i.a. took this so seriously they grounded planes in europe and mexico bound for the united states based on information in which they thought they had uncovered al qaeda codes buried in the al jazeera... >> and it was nonsense. >> well, there's absolutely no evidence of any of this was ever
true, and it's very difficult to believe that the c.i.a. and the bush administration took it as seriously as they did. >> something that was serious, it was a big story. you described it as the most important story of your life, which was about another of the reactions that happened to inch, which was that the n.s.a. was conducting warrantless surveillance of american citizens. that was a tremendous battle for you to get that printed. >> right, right. it took a year. >> the "new york times" printed it once you were going to come out with a book about if. >> yes, yes. >> in the end, looking back, was that warrantless surveillance, to put it, unwarranted. because, you know, people really were worried about a threat and deservedly so. >> basically what the government did was they turned the national security agency. which was designed to spy on
overseas to provide - to ease drop on electronic communications of foreigners, and they turned it around, and turned it against americans, and when they did that after 9/11 in secret, with the push administration, one of the people i profile in the new book is a woman named diane rourke, a house intelligence committee staffer, one of the first people to find out what was happening, and find out that this was going on. she tried to stay within the system, to stop it. i talk in the book about how she went to all the people in the government who she knew, who they thought could stop this, and never went to the press, never tried to leek, yet she was persecuted. her house was raided by the fbi because they thought she may have gone to the press. >> in the end, would it have been hard to get the warns. >> there was a secret court set
up to do that. to allow them to get court ordered warrants, to allow them. >> in the aftermath of 9/11 i imagine a court like that would have been generous at giving search warrants. >> yes. >> why did it happen? >> the bush administration at the time wanted gator power. it was -- greater power. it was a matter of increasing executive power in the wake of 9/11, and using 9/11 as justification to develop a whole new counter terrorism infrastructure within the u.s. government. >> i know you thought things would get better under president obama because he promised transparency, and we talked about this. you said, instead, the obama is the greatest enemy to press freedom. the facts speak for themselves. you look at how many progresses for whistle blowsers, and how many attacks and targets are
down. it's more than all previous presidents history combine and it set a press den for the rest of the world. -- precedent for the rest of the world. you have al jazeera journalists imprisoned in egypt, and how can we as a country, the united states say anything to egypt for the other countries when we crack down on press. that leads the dictators around the world to say if the americans do it, why can't i. >> and you face subpoena to reveal a source in an ongoing case so you technically face the threat of having to go to gaol, despite the fact that attorney general eric holder and president obama made noises that they don't think you should go. i want to play something on '60 minutes" on sunday from the man who was the head of the n.s.a., michael haden. >> talking about ruining lives
over things about which people are acting on principle. i would be careful about it. >> i don't understand the necessity to pursue jim. >> what did you think when you saw the former head of the n.s.a. say the government shouldn't go after you? >> i was pleasantly surprised. i'm glad he came around to that view. >> do you expect you'll get a subpoena - another. ? >> it's hard to tell what is happening. there was a hearing in the case. it's in the works. i'm not sure what the government's next move will be. >> this has been hanging over you for years. it must be difficult. great to see you. best of luck. pay any price, greed, power andenedless war. time to see what is trending on the web. let's check in with harmeli aregawi. >> a new campaign for charity could be the ice bucket change. using the hashtag wake up call, celebrities are posting images
of themselves in bed. and sharing instructions on how to donate to uni self and nominates others to -- unicef and nominates others. it was started by jam ima kahn. according to spread fast, a social analytics firm, it reached more than 300 million people. chris kearns explains why he thinks wake up call could be as big as the campaign for a.l.s., saying: according to u.n.i.c.e.f. syria is a dangerous place in the world to be a child. 6.5 million syrians suffered because of the conflict. roughly 2.8 million are no longer able to attend school, and 1 million have been
displaced due to the war. that is what is trending on twitter. >> let me know the stories you'd like to see in the digital spotlight. it would be great if it was as great as a.l.s. >> it will be. i don't think i'll post pictures of me. i'll contribute to u.n.i.c.e.f. how federal budgets could affect students, leading to higher institution. >> capitalism in america - falling behind other countries. disturbing accusations against a high school football team, leading to arrests and the capslation of the football -- cancellation of the football season.
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>> it's an urgent need... and a host willing to ask the tough questions >> how do you explain it to yourself? and you'll get... the inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5 eastern only on al jazeera america by some estimates the federal government made 41.3 billion in profit from student loans last year. if it were a private lender that would make it the most profitable company in the world after exxonmobile and apple. at the same time student loan debt soared to 1.2 trillion. that is crippling because half of recent college grads are working at jobs that don't require a college degree or are unemployed altogether. with college education in the u.s. costing more, it's no
wonder the graduation rate is growing at the slowest pace in the industrial world. we are joined by a writer who writes the economic scene clum, and his piece "why aid for college is missing the marks", and joins us from the newsroom in new york. you started your column quolting william bennett'ses, denouncing aid because it allowed coaches to blithely raise tuitions at little benefit to students. that raised little eyebrows. has history been right, that it has fuelled the growth of what colleges charge? >> to some extent yes. there's evidence that colleges pocket some of the fax payers money through higher tuition, you can see it in public
colleges, community and nonprofit colleges, where it is startling is in the for-profit sector. colleges - for profit colleges that are charmed - that take federal moneys charge higher tuition than similar courses that do not take federal moneys. 80% more, that's the amount of the subsidies. seems like they are absorbing it through higher tuition. >> it leads to a triple failure. it bleeds taxpayers. we pay for this. doesn't help low income students, and i'll get to that in a moment, and makes people that can afford to pay, pay more because they are stuck paying the tuitions. >> that's right. to some extent it shows how absurd and distorted the system
of public finance is, where it finances a lower quality education for the students that need the help most. >> the idea behind federal aid was to help people that couldn't afford college, what you found are they are the ones that have the most problem with debt and finding jobs. >> yes. low income students are the ones that have a harder time getting to college, being able to afford it and graduate from college. they are the three things that the government hopes to assist low income folks with. the problem is the way they are going it, by offering them debt that is risky to a student that may not finish the degree, but end up with no degree and a lot of debt is not the best way to do it. especially when at the other end you have state fund for public education. you have community colleges and public state schools which could
provide a decent education, they are running out of the money. we have a pot of federal dollars that is going to subsidise part of the education system that is not doing very good by our young low income kids. >> some schools are getting hurt by the states pulling back on financing, and others helped by federal aid, and not the rite ones are coming out ahead in all of this. it has socioeconomic consequences. some are partially blaming student debt on people pushing aufr marriage, we have a record number of persons pushing off having kids, home ownership. it's at lows we haven't seen in two decades. >> that's right. i like to make a point. college is on average a good deal. the bump in earnings that you get in your lift will be able to cover the cost of your debt.
the problem is this is on average. if you are a student that struggled though high school, from a family that doesn't have a lot of resources to help you though college, you may end up without a degree, and ending up without a degree and the debt is not a good deal. >> that is problem. >> what do you think, having looked into this is the best way to approach this problem. >> i don't think there's a single way. different countries around the world are financing education in different ways. you have the scanned navian countries, like norway, the government has to cover the whole bill. there's no tuition. you go in, and it's for free. the government nose it will get back its money. the higher wages - the folks will pay higher taxes, and scandinavia charges high taxes. it's not the only way to do it. it's a system similar to ours.
you have private universities that charge high tuition, and then - and the government helps students by offering them loans as they do - as the government does here. the loans are very different. in the u.k., all the loans are income contingent. once you get out of school, you don't have to pay anything until your earnings rise $35,000, and you pay 9% of your income above that number. it kind of protects you from a risk of not being able to afford to pay off the loan. and the government forgives your loan, the balance of the loan 30 years down the road, if you haven't managed to pay it. >> and controls on tuition. >> the other control is that tuition is limited by government. now it's about a $15,000, and colleges are not allowed to charge more, and the third thing is the government keeps a close tab on the academic quality of
colleges over there, and so you can ensure you are getting a quality education, and that your student can pay for it once they get into the job market. >> and not great quality controls in the u.s. it's certainly an important topic as reported in the "new york times". thank you for being with us. >> thanks a lot. >> coming up. repulsive haying against the football team, and more against an iceman provy winner. and americans beating others at capitalism - n.
today's data dive finds troubling signs for the future of america's economy. if the u.s. can't crack the top 10 when it comes to economic freedom. u.s. was 12th. hong kong number one, singapore, new zealand, switzerland and mauritius rounded out the top tif. the cato institute and canada's fraser institute put the list
together, basing economic freedom on the size of government. laws protecting people. the u.s. has been downgraded on five factors over the last decade, leading to a falling rank. america had been ranked 2-3 for decades on the list. it came m second in the last year of the clinton administration, by the middle. bush administration we dropped to eight and it decloiped in president obama -- declined in president obama's two terms. a wide reaching of issues was causing concernsers saying the u.s. mooed away from -- moved away from a rule of law, and highly politicized and heavy policed state. economic freedom is tied to human wellbeing. coming up, crimes so revoting we can't describe them, committed
by players on a big-time football team. how did school officials let this happen. >> i'm john siegenthaler in new york. after "consider this", fighting off ebola - the dallas nurse with the virus sent a message from her hospital bed. >> growing threat. i.s.i.l. closes in on baghdad. what the u.s. and allies plan to do about it. the minimum wage debate on the last frontier. the unique issues facing alaska's workers. america votes 2014 - coming up after "consider this".
disturbing charges against members of a new jersey high school football team that won three state championships in the last four years led to the rest of their season being cancelled. several members. s ajs yreville team has been arrested and charged with sexual assault after a hazing incident. joining us is dave ziren, host of edge of sport. good to see you, not under these circumstances. this is something we talked about, this explosion. i don't know if hazing is worse. we have seen so many high-profile cases over the hast
few years -- over the last few years. when you hear of something disturbing and disgusting as what happened in this case, it makes you think why does it continue to happen? >> it's disturbing for so many reasons. i'm wondering if we need a better word nan hazing, which makes people think of a fraternity drinking ritual as opposed to a sexual assault. the ways in which the stories splic, with sports and the team activities. most of us had positive memories of sport. we think about the ways teams can bond. you see how it dan we used for nefarious purposes. we say it's like a fire. it can burn down your house. this is clearly one of those cases where the team is burning. >> no charms against the
coaches -- charges against the coaches. don't they have a responsibility. this is on school property. in a school locker room. kids unsupervised doing this out of school. >> exactly. the other thing about adults in this situation, and in a lot of these situations is that you see a common thread, whether you talk about the sexual assault of young me in the locker room. or some other stories that we hear about. a common thread that you see is not just the fact that a violent assault takes place of a sexual nature, but the number of young people. good young people who see what is happening and choose to say nothing. >> if they do, it's seen as snitching. >> i can't help but think that some of that culture has to full on the shoulders of the adults. for a lot of young people, they feel there's not an adult they
can come to where their bravely coming forward. >> talking about the adult reaction from some of the adults this that community. they are pushing back on what happened. in fact, a parent of one student questioned said no one was hurt, no one died, i don't understand why they are being punished. she is not the only one. there are people arguing that this is punishing people who weren't responsible for active in the hazing. you would think that anyone who was anywhere near the locker room bears responsibility. >> there's an undercurrent that is ugly at a time where public high schools are fighting for funding, where sports is a branding and calling card for schools, when they are asking for funding or support, whether from the pta or community, not only local politicians. if you threaten the football team. this is big time football.
people think you are threatening not just a way of life, but a way of economic survival. that is so twisted. if you unpack it and think about it. >> there has been talk about highly football has become a big enterprise. you are talking money. it astonishes me that anyone could defend what happens in this case. we can't discuss what happened. it was that elaborate. talking about the culture, it's not just high school, we have seek issues in college, and jame us, heisman trophy winner led the florida state to the national championship in trouble again. at least allegations that he might have been selling autographs, one of many things going on. he had his own accusations of rape. there'll be a hearing about that, each though the alleged rape took place almost two years ago. >> when you look at jame us winston and everything that he
has been through and put himself through, this latest incident of signing autographs for money, allegedly, and having this be illegal, it elements has an al capone for tax feel to it. you have things that are almost connickle. like stealing crab's legs, in the middle. between that and selling autographs, you have sexual assault and the high possibility that a lot of cover ups were going on in the police department with records to hays case. the thing that links them is their coach - people have to have seen the press conference to believe it. he is defending winston up and down the line. when a heisman candidate, todd burly, his autograph was on the same site. the school suspended him. >> hundreds of autographs, making it seem impossible that they would have been acquired if
he hadn't done it over. elliott says you are getting in the way of stars signing autographs for kids. we are talking about 950 authenticated. >> he was suspended for one game for student behaviour in a student dining room. there was a shoplifting incident. one thing after another. >> i'm not in the area of advising him, but if i was him i'd quit the team and join the peace corp getting ready for the draft. he needs an imaging makeover. >> that's all for now. coming up wednesday on "consider this", is america experience aring the end of greatness. a provocative book says america can't have or want another great president. >> the conversation continues on the website. on facebook and twitter. tweet me @amoratv.
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