tv Talk to Al Jazeera Al Jazeera March 12, 2016 2:30pm-3:01pm EST
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every wave is joy and exhilaration . >> it's to bring optimal health and well-being. medication and mindful living can solve global conflict as well, chopra says. >> the only solution, creative solution. >> and a new age guru to celebrities talks about his close friend the late michael jackson. >> michael was like a brother to me. he was very joyful. he was genius. >> i spoke with depack chopra while he was in new york. >> you have been called an author, . >> i think if you define yourself you limit yourself so none of them. >> or all of them. >> you were a practicing physician. when you came to the united
states you were a practicing physician, what was that experience like? >> experience was interesting because i trained in internal medicine, an and i was studying the molecules of emotion. that got me interested in our how ou biology is influenced. >> in the beginning ther you were living a different lifestyle. >> there was smoking and alcohol on different occasion. >> why did you need that? >> everybody did it. we do life resuscitation, take care of cardiac arrest, go out an everything. when i came during conferences all the doctors used to smoke. so i just joined the club.
>> being part of the club meant smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey. i understand that your beliefs in medicine even though you were still living in the states started to turn eastward again. >> i started exploring as a result of my training, actually, i mentioned that we were looking at the molecules of emotion, so i was seeing a connection between consciousness and biology. i was also puzzled by the fact that you can have two patients who had the same illness, they received the same treatment. they saw the same doctor but they could have completely different outcomes. one could recover and one could die. what was happening? i was confused. that's when i started actually looking into eastern wisdom traditions. meditation. systems b biology is a good term to explain it. >> molecules of emotion.
what are those? do we all have those? >> yes, every emotion has biological expression. if you're feeling love, compassion, joy, empathy, equity equity. your brain starts to make dopamine, opiates, endorphins. these are anti-depressants. on the other hand if you're feeling hostility, resentment, guilt, depression, fear, you make cortisol which weakens the immune system and has many other effects. so every moment your genes are influenced by what you're feeling, what you're thinking, even the way you speak, how you
look at the environment, your eating, sleeping habits. this was a new science that was not even there ten years ago. >> everything that we're hearing about. just to boil down to what you were saying. you were an endegree craniologist. studying the chemicals that influence our brains and immune systems and realized if we could control these chemicals we can actually create biologically beneficial outcomes? >> that's a good way to say it. our body moves between two states. one is inflammation, but inflammation is also protective response. so if you fall down, you your yourself, you need the inflammatory response so you don't bleed to death. but exaggerated inflammation or inappropriate inflammation
direct already "indirectly causes illness es, . your body can be self regulating and in perfect balance. we're always moving between these two extremes. homeo stasis could be the healing bases. >> your father was a doctor in india. what did he think when you were exploring these unorthodox therapies? >> in the beginning he was very disappointed because he thought i had wasted my education. >> and he really wanted you to be a doctor. >> yes, he very much wanted me to be--but with when i explained to him the science behind what i was doing, and how one day this
was going to be--i never heard the word neuroplacity, which is now very common words, but i never doubted that humans could heal themselves. >> was there science validating what you were talking about? >> science validated what i was talking about. in the 80's i wrote a book quantum healing. which by the way was very popular with the layperson. whatever i said it was popular with the general public, but not with medical people. i was called a charlton, a fraud. >> one of the things you espoused was this mind-body connection and meditation is the vehicle by which we can sort of gain control of our reality. does that work for everyone? >> if somebody is in interested,
yes, it works for everyone. meditation as in mindfulness, mindfulness of your life. mindfulness of your choices, awareness of your body, awareness of your mind space, your relationships, self reflections , self awareness, mindfulness meditation. we have a paper coming out in a few months that we just worked with six universities where even in four days of the practice of medication the level of the enzyme which controls biological age an at the sell cellular level went up 40%. >> if i meditate and i'm self aware. >> you will influence your biological age significantly. >> are we talking about wrinkl wrinkles? bags under you are eyes? >> yes, blood pressure,
wrinkles, bone density, immune function, hormone levels. >> that's unbelievable to me? what's the science behind it? the mechanism ? >> science has published elizabeth blackburn, nobel laureate, and just last three years published levels of enzyme going up with meditation an and with diet as well and proper sleep. >> how long does one have to meditate every day? >> instantaneous. >> with all the stresses of modern life? >> yes, what's the stress? stress is the perception of threat either psychological threat or emotional threat or physical threat. i like to think of stress like waves on the ocean, so if you're a skillful surfer, then every
wave is joy and exhilaration. if you're not prepared then every wave is a disaster. >> what is your prescription. if meditation is a sort of medicine, what is the dosage? >> the research studies have suggested that about 20 minutes once or twice a day preferable twice a day is more than adequate. >> dapak chopra's answer to ending every world conflict coming up.
we have reptilian brain which goes back 300 million years which is only involved in fight or flight. it's survival. it still dominates our world. i'm using my hand because this is a handy model of the brain. this is the limbik brain. it regulates your his or he your hormones. and then your cortical brain. this is where we reflect, imagine, make choices. orchestrate conscious intention. the idea of a super brain. you don't use your real tillan brain at all. when you're stressed. you stop. s-t-o-p.
stop, take three breaths, smile and be aware of what is happening in your body and proceed with compassion and awareness. >> can you use an mri to see changes. >> you can see the changes in the brain. you can see growth in the cortex cortex. but do remember. when you look at mri , every experience you have, there is a correlate which means something happens in the brain. >> what you're saying by taking three deep breaths or by meditating, by taking a second to be self aware i can change the biological of my brain? >> before you react, you observe. you observe. you observe your reactivity. so before you react you observe your reaction to react. in that split second you break
the cycle. j. >> and you change the buy ohology of your brain. >> you change the biology of your brain because biology is the change of consciousness . >> you say that it could benefit not just individuals but societies. can you talk about the premise behind that research. >> the research is in five areas so far. well, bean, social well-being, physical well-being, community well-being and financial well-being. it seems that they're all related. if you're happy in your career, of course you'll be successful, right? most people are. only 20% of people are happy in their careers. more people down monda die on monday morning of heart attacks than any other time. physical well-being. do you sleep well. are you rested. do you have stress or not.
do you eat properly, etc. and then community well-being, you see a community safe. are you able to walk at night without anxiety? and many other things and then financial well-being means that you have no anxiety about money. these things can be quantified. so if you score, say, seven or more out of ten when we quantify it, then you're thriving. if you score between four and seven you're struggling. and if you score less than four, then you're suffering. the gallup data was so interesting that we could predict with the data we had we could predict what was going to happen in libya, in egypt, in tunisia before it happened. >> explain that. >> well, the majority of the people who are in the suffering stage, and people start to suffer, then revolutions happen, social unrests happen, traffic
accidents increase and violence happens. i teach a class on this, and one of my students in the class was qaddafi 's son. >> wow. >> basically they wanted to quote/unquote rebrand libya into a country that paid attention to well-being because they were aware of this data. >> was it one of the sons, by the way who is on trial? >> he died three weeks after he left my class. it was very sad because you could see there was this absolute huge anxiety that some disaster was going to occur. >> libya is just one of many places in the midst of crisis right now. >> yes. >> talk about how you view the world at this point. is it at a tenuous time. >> if you have 50% of the world living on less than $2 a day, that's a catastrophe, we have
that right now. >> you think its rooted in poverty. >> it's rooted in poverty and lack of education. those two things. >> it has nothing to do with power struggles, religion, or fights-- >> no, i don't think so. i think its mostly poverty. but mostly what happens is when you have radical poverty and lack of education, then unscrupulous leaders arrive to take advantage of that and become demagogues and tyrants and that's what happens. the root cause is still lack of education and lack of resources. >> can the meditation that you prescribe for so many ills be something for the poor? >> it's for everyone. it doesn't cost anything. remember, meditation increases self awareness. we still have to address the root causes of violence, which
come from lack of education, sometimes abysmal ignorance, and past history of violence, and lack of resources. right now we're seeing this whole violence in gaza and so on, you know, people are always trying to take sides. who is right, who is wrong when, in fact, the only solution is a creative solution in consciousness. yesterday i posted ten point of how you can resolve any conflict. do you want me to give them? >> sure. >> speak with respect. even with your enemy. good manners, politeness, respect, deference will get you a long way. the number one cause of hostility in the world is lack of respect. number two, recognize that in any conflict the perception of injustice on both sides otherwise there would not be a
conflict. number three, recognize that both sides are coming from fear. number four, refrain from belegerence. people make emotional decisions. being in touch with your feelings. being in touch with the other person's feelings, communicate consciously and recognize the value of empathy. number six, declare your values and try to understand other people's values. they are different than yours but they are not necessarily wrong. there is a history behind those values. the cultural history behind those values. number six, don't prove somebody wrong and make them lose face. they'll never forgive you. number five, seven, eight, whatever, learn to forgive and
learn to ask for forgiveness. and finally, don't bring in ideology in religion. everybody thinks that their religion is the best. so that shouldn't be part of the conversation. number ten, the most important if you follow all these, find a way to partner economically. okay. if i sit down with somebody in gaza, and i sit down with somebody, a teenage center israel or anywhere and ask them, you know, our young adult, what do you want? they want to be safe. they want to go to school. they want to be successful in their careers. there are today enough resources to create partnerships. you know, you could be living in calcutta and have a business and employment in chicago right now. so we're not using the resources that we have to solve these conflicts just trying to prove the other person wrong. it's all about the past.
it's been going on for 2,000 years. are we not going to learn that the worst thing you can can do is try to solve a problem in the same way as in the level of consciousness in which the problem was created. >> you once boiled down the problems in the world to the instincts tha the intinks predatory males have to survive. the reptilian brain, i guess. do you think the world will ever be able to move past that? >> i hope so, otherwise we risk our extinction. there have been mass extinctions in the past. the last one was 65 million years ago when the meteorite fell and they happened to be real tiles. now we're the predator to climb change and extinction of species
i met him a long time ago, around the time when "thriller" was in the world, the big album. he was very innocent. he was very joyful. he was a generou genius in terms of his--in terms of his craft. was he misunderstand. >> he could go into a state of consciousness that i would call transcendence. he was not part of this world when he was there. the pepsi accident when he was bumped into narcotics and doctors were pepper pe pe perpetuate the medicine. >> michael had an opportunity to totally disappear when he wanted to.
when he disappeared i knew that he was now somebody was enabling him, and it was usually a doct doctor. there are these doctors in hollywood. we call them concierge doctors. >> i understand that you live a very modest life. >> i fly jetblue when i can, i carry $100. $30,000 in my bank account. the rest is given to my family and my non-profit. >> your son is a filmmaker and made a documentary about you. and you never put down your cell phone. do you not have digital over load. >> that was a very good documentary.
that was the last time that i actually used a cell phone unconsciously. >> michael: and o >> and on a family vacation. >> i don't do it any more. that's something that brought me self awareness. >> how do you maintain your inner peace because a lot of us are trying to figure out how to unplug. >> i wake up at 4:00 in the morning. i meditate for two hours. either i take a yoga class or i go to the gym with a trainer. after that i just do what i'm told to do. i accept the present moment of what it is. i'm committed every day to joyful energic body, to loving connection with the world. and compassion. to a reflective and clear mind and to likeness of being, which means go with the flow. >> how much sleep due get?
>> i go to bed around 10:00. so that's pretty good. >> is there anything that keeps you up at night? >> no, actually. i practice a technique so what i do before i go to sleep i observe my breath and i observe my body. then i observe my mental space, then i introduce the intention that my spirit or my consciousness my dream state. that's when i get ideas for books and things like that. my sleep is very restful, but it awareness. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you for talking to al jazeera. great to meet you. thank you. >> thank you. >> every monday night. >> i lived that character. >> go one on one with america's movers and shakers. >> we will be able to see change. >> gripping... inspiring... entertaining. no topic off limits. >> 'cause i'm like, "dad, there are hookers in this house".
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