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fully back to go this is the news hour live from doha with continuing coverage of the vents in yemen ali abdullah saleh the president ousted from power and twenty twelve has been killed the news has been confirmed by son his political party and his former allies turned foes the who the rebels yemen's with the leaders says sign is forces were militias working for the saudi led coalition and earlier who the rebel troops gathered in sanaa to fight forces supporting ali abdullah saleh. and with ali abdullah sally out of the picture how will regional players deal with a new situation in yemen. thank you for joining as the civil war in yemen has turned another bloody chapter throwing the middle east sports country further into chaos in the past few hours
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it's been confronted by both the who the rebels and the party of ali abdullah saleh but the man who led the country for more than three decades has been killed his convoy was reportedly attacked by who thiis at a checkpoint outside of the capital sanaa his assistant secretary general yasar was also killed at these pictures on social media outlets appear to show silent moments after his death only television network says the rebels have gained control of a majority of the city that is sunnah and its surrounding areas from sinus forces sally was killed just two days after he publicly broke off ties with who the rebels leading to in ten street battles between the rival factions that left dozens of people dead and his you know what made on who the television earlier about ali abdullah saleh is to. well you know. the ministry of interior statement announces that they have taken over all the positions and strongholds of the treasury's militia in the capital sanaa and the surrounding areas as well as other provinces
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in order to impose security it also announces the killing of the treacherous leader . and his supporters this is after he and his men blockaded the roads and killed civilians in a clear collaboration with the enemy countries of the coalition. in the last hour the leader of the who fees. has made a televised statement to the people he said sally and the saudi led coalition were involved in a conspiracy to take over the capital. i think it was here that. it was a big surprise to the people who think about the benefits of. even in the congress the general people's congress they were shocked they were not to believe what is going on really saying that the really talking to aggressors what are the reasons behind this new transferred to the other
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side suddenly you talk to the aggressors against you. then the military side was there the military partnership through. coverage and tell really shelling and support these criminal militia and with the air support for them with. all of storming the capital of. his own desires how do you have made now looking back on the life. he once said that ruling yemen is like dancing on a snake's head and no. and knew that dance better than ali abdullah saleh mastering every step throughout his three decades in power. believed only he could hold the country together but his legacy is one of corruption war and
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a deeply divided poor nation. born in one thousand nine hundred eighty two as a young man he joined the army and rose to the rank of qana before taking part in a coup that later saw him become president of what was then north yemen at the age of thirty six for the next decade he oversaw fighting with the communist south the decline of the soviet union weakened his enemies and in one nine hundred ninety north and south yemen became one country with the last as its first president that same year iraq's leader saddam hussein a longtime close ally ordered the invasion of kuwait at the un security council yemen voted against the use of force prompting the us to cut off millions in aid and i thank president for his strong support a decade later he was welcome back by the west in october two thousand and attack
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on the american warship u.s.s. cole off the shores of yemen killed seventeen sailors and injured thirty nine others washington understood that salah a secular leader and yemen we important in the so-called global war against terror he'd won friends and cash but did little to fix yemen's internal problems. rebellion in the north and a separatist movement in the south critics say that more than a dancer was a dark horse of yemen's to mulches politics playing off military and tribes to keep himself in power. the toughest challenge came in two thousand and eleven the arab spring was sweeping across the middle east. inspired by tunisia and egypt yemen has filled this. street protesting against poverty unemployment and demanding for regime change but this sent was something solid never tolerated. yemenis stood firm even when the protests turned violent
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a few months later injured in a rocket attack on his compound saleh was flown to saudi arabia for treatment his face burned and hands bandaged he appeared on t.v. defiant as ever but this was a weaker president abandoned by his political allies at home and under intense international pressure to hand over power with yemen on the brink of civil war gulf countries brokered a deal that so power transferred to his deputy ive the rebel months who had in return for solace immunity from prosecution after ten months of protests many yemenis were celebrating his ousting even though the country was in tatters but ali abdullah saleh had merely gone into the shadows we heard sing the next step in his snake dance and nearly three years later saleh was again at the forefront with a strong of support of the army he allied himself with the iranian backed who sees
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rebels they shared a common enemy his successor heading in two thousand and fifteen a saudi led coalition started a military campaign to restore had to power and impose the blockade over the country but the snake charmer was losing direction just a few days before his death turned his back against ruthie's signaling a possible return to the arab fold it was meant to be another great survival act but it turned out to be his last for the. with me now is our senior political analyst marwan bashar i thank you for being with us again marwan it's interesting right before we came on we were looking at the monitors here just to see what the other networks are doing whether or not they were covering his death and it's interesting the americans are british they're not talking about this story at all but this is a huge moment in the history of yemen and possibly of this region and it will have
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consequences for western security because those who have been bragging about fighting terrorism going after al qaida including in yemen. probably need to understand that the situation in yemen today is worse than it was yesterday. the failed state in yemen will continue to be a hospitable place. for the kind of terrorists i saw that we've seen before. but it's quite unfortunate for lee that the west and western media remains focused on the idea that we prefer terrorists tall exists terrorist experts rather than sociologists they prefer armed chipman than humanitarian shipments their entire focus to so clinical and source carol to worse this war on terror that they think if they're not gone they knock off a few isolated those in yemen or iraq and syria this is over it's not because if you take stock of the war on terror over the last sixteen years since nine eleven
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you know that in places like yemen and others it has deteriorated and so so far that. basically the war on terror has failed miserably right and we can see more and more extremism rising in places like yemen and other third states so we are of course in a new yemen today without down a side which are not of the people of that country have not known because this is a man who whether or not he was president was always in power somewhere he was always stand now that he is out of the picture what does this mean for the people of yemen how does the future look for them in the near future and also in the line long term is it going to get better for them or is it going to get worse before it does look up technically speaking or presently speaking history aside meaning four decades of being associated with i don't. i think the three the three main actors
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on the yemeni scene today the host sees what in control of saddam have lost on our eye. the followers of ali abdullah saleh who was killed today the congress party and other militants have lost their leader and basically have lost a lot of momentum. and those who bets in riyadh and in abu dhabi a new all lie against the whole thing isn't santa has lost an ally so basically everyone has lost so this is going to step in to fill the vacuum well there's a good number of questions of course it depends what who concludes what for example the arena's might conclude that now that i doubt he's not there that there is no stopping and how far they could support the whole series especially if saudi arabia decides to escalate the war against the host is in yemen also it depends on how saudi arabia and what we go to war or from the gulf cooperation council summits in kuwait whether we're going to hear very overt initiative or sort or some sign that
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the gulf cooperation council is preferring more diplomacy and war. again it also depends on what the horses now conclude from this thing do they consider it a victory against someone who betrayed them or otherwise the pictures we're looking at right now marwan images from the reuters news agency are silas home one of his homes anyway in the capital sanaa which the hooty rebels attacked earlier today but i understand he wasn't killed during this attack on his home but by an r.p.g. on his vehicle outside just like a duck he was just and i mean how terrible how the images that we've seen on social media today and they reminiscent of what we saw in libya in twenty eleven in terms of how ugly and sad there are because then there there as we were saying earlier i mean qaddafi again for decades libya associated with his role for decades yemen associated with the with with the ali i decide i don't. you would think these
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leaders would step aside in a dignified way and would die if he dignified at least i love the asylum has had the chance to step aside in a dignified way instead once he was deposed he conspired against a legitimate government where the whole thiis and there could be in silence. in order to come back to power it's really sad to see dictators making the same mistakes over and over again for their pursuit of power i mean you know in the end of the day more than four decades i mean how many years do you want to stay on. top of yemen with yemen suffering the way it was but i mean you know we so our job to do whatever is needed including the result of see in death destruction and disease in yemen simply because he wanted to stay relevant and empowered in yemen what is going to happen now as far as the saudi strategy in yemen is concerned you know people are saying that today a plan b.
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that saudi arabia had for yemen has failed to plan a has failed plan b. has failed is there a plan c. how do they get out of this you know i think. the business of prediction of course is very tricky one for political analysis because over there we have to deal with the facts with the present and may be on the basis of what we see today draw as number of scenarios not withstanding other things that might happen in the future. so for the time being what we know from the so distracted jane yemen is not only that there was no strategy there was no exit strategy. when the youngest defense minister in in the world the mohamed was sort of out of saudi arabia led or or or invaded yemen under the pretext that saudi national security and gulf security is being threatened led to an alliance of sort he clearly didn't have a strategy to win and he didn't have an exit strategy and apparently he didn't even have a solution once his troops are in or once he supports this party against other party
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that they would break into some sort of a political solution because into the day. and i've been trying to emphasize this point endlessly and you know this is really just a sad situation to see that repeated on and on in a place like yemen saudi arabia and others need to understand that there are no winners of civil war there are only losers yemen lost since the civil war started and yemen last since the saudis got involved and they would last a day even with the tragic the way it happened killing available assad but it adds yet another layer to the mess and the confusion in the country will they conclude with this become an opportunity that other people conclude that you know what you know this is going to messy too destructive we need to come together into some sort of a solution i don't see that happening but again to morrow in the gulf summit we might hear some signals that shorts the way towards the more let's go to that gulf
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cooperation council summit in coase see the big day is tomorrow of course mamma john june eighth air forest mohammed no doubt that the developments in yemen will feature high in the gender of this summit. oh that's absolutely right but interestingly enough there was a minister a ministerial meeting by the foreign ministers that are in attendance and we much we must stress that not all the foreign ministers of g.c.c. countries were here today the foreign minister of the u.a.e. and the foreign minister brought in to not attend a lower level ministers attended in their place it was expected that in that meeting that yemen would be discussed alongside the agenda for tomorrow is beginning of this g.c.c. summit but no statement has been released no official statement has come out of that meeting which ended a little over an hour ago as part of the best estimates we're hearing here in kuwait now this really just complicates things because at the moment before what
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happened in yemen today happened before the killing of the abdullah saleh it was expected that the biggest thing to be discussed here in this summit is the crisis this blockade against started over six months ago all six months ago now that that is what was really going to take up most of the discussions many had wondered if perhaps there had been some behind the scenes breakthrough of perhaps the kuwaiti emirs mediation efforts these past several months have come to some sort of a wish but nobody knows for sure and in fact it's not yet clear who all will be attending the summit which starts tomorrow which leaders of these countries aside from of course the leader of kuwait and that leader of thought that now of course you have what has happened in yemen in yemen a huge concern for this region a region that is facing so much instability right now yemen of course has been unstable for decades now only going to be more unstable so clearly this is going to be something that is going to be discussed but what exactly is going to come out of these meetings at a time when there is this thought that
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a crisis that is of so much concern in the region around the world nobody really knows just yet just to clarify. not all the foreign minister is way than coate today. that's right you had you did not have the foreign minister of the u.a.e. and you did not have the foreign minister about it and you have the lower level ministers here in their place the other four foreign ministers were indeed here in kuwait so the meeting went ahead as planned but no statement was released now that's not really a surprise usually a g.c.c. summit meetings or statements aren't released until after the summits are concluded so this doesn't look to be any different but the fact was that you did not have the foreign minister of the u.a.e. you did not have the foreign minister back and that really calls into question the how that is going to be perceived by the way it is there's been a lot invested in trying to make this a show of unity here in trying to make this summit which many analysts had thought would be delays really show that this institution was not on its last legs that
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this institution was going to be able to overcome this current crisis you know that's still in question right now the fact that two foreign ministers did not attend well a lot really depends now on who shows up for the summit as it goes ahead tomorrow but as i mentioned up until a few days ago most conventional wisdom would have been that this summit was going to be at best delayed possibly canceled altogether. just coming back on what we're expecting tomorrow d. qatari foreign minister did say that the emir of qatar would attend the summit today but as you say empty and whether the other heads of states will be that tomorrow. there's a lot of rumor here and there's a lot of speculation about who might be attending about who's entourage might be arriving right now it's just not known we know that the american way to shift obama will be here we know the emir of qatar shift i mean will be here besides that we just don't know and again that's going to be something that really resonates that's really going to show how serious these gulf countries are as far as showing to the
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world that they are still unified in trying to come together as a regional horse to showcase that they are united in making sure that this body is seen as still being functional at a time of such crisis or if it's going to be seen as perhaps an. to the kuwaitis who have gone to so much lengths to try to or links to try to organize a meeting to try to make sure it went ahead despite the fact that this crisis has been ongoing and is really threatened even more the stability of this region look we've heard so many statements the past few days about just how dire the situation is a lot of people a lot of analysts a lot of observers of the g.c.c. say this is really a make or break moment that if these leaders do not come together if they do not show solidarity at least in reinforcing the importance of the g.c.c. as an institution here in this region that that is something that really could fracture could split the g.c.c. into falling very much for that mohammed mohammed john john reporting there live from kuwait city returning now to the death of donna sunday yemen's former president i'm just tired has the latest on what spain a very tumultuous day in the. a sudden end for one of yemen's most powerful
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men who the rebels say they killed ousted president aliyev delish sala during an attack on his convoy. his remains were packed on the back of a pickup truck in a televised statement the leader of the said solly was involved in a conspiracy with the saudi led coalition to take over well. what are the reasons behind this new transfer of the. suddenly you talk to the aggressors against. salah had been an alliance with the iranian backed for more than two years together they controlled the capital sanaa and fought against the saudi led coalition which supports the internationally recognized government led by months or hadi but this partnership with the collapse last week sparking major confrontations between salis forces. and the
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rebels after days of running street battles salah announced he was ready for dialogue with the saudi led coalition if it ended its blockade of yemen sports and airports and allowed for more humanitarian aid yemen is already a failed state it's a state where there is no central government institutions have failed most of the structures have failed and the economy has failed the war has further destructive it destroyed the entire country so i think in the in the short run we are in for a lot more violence. and the who pushed out how these government in january two thousand and fifteen and set up their own administration prompting the saudi led campaign against them since then the country has been split between the who the rebels in the north ministration in the south and forces loyal to solid inviting began among the former allies it's part fears of a new front in the war a war which has already killed nearly ten thousand people pushed yemen to the brink of mass starvation and triggered what the united nations has called the world's
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worst. humanitarian crisis there have been multiple investigations about the atrocities being committed any and all parties are guilty whether it's the whole thing is whether it's the saudi led coalition and you know the u.k. and the u.s. are largely complicit in this war as well through the billions and billions of dollars worth of arms sales to the saudis. as yemen's president saleh ruled for more than three decades until he was forced to resign during the arab spring uprising that he was able to remain in the country and continue to wield enormous power behind the scenes it's not yet clear what his death will mean for the fighting on the ground or future if your child. mary i spoke to who is a professor in the faculty of world studies at tehran university he says the only way forward for yemen is a political solution to the conflict i think iran. is going to be exactly what iran
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asked for some years ago which is a stop of hostilities finding a political solution. the saudis the saudi princes have not realized the fact that yemen does not have a military solution they need to realize this that it was being so various in yemen and they need to allow a political solution to be reached unfortunately we are not seeing that yet maybe that of the former president will result in a change of policy in. the capital we need to realize that continuation of the civil war will result only in more deaths and destructions and you're not going to see any peaceful coexistence between different yemeni factions as long as you have the saudi princes following the current policy. andres craig is back with us his assistant professor at the defense studies department at
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king's college london andrea's i want to ask you about the ambitions of the outside players in yemen today whether it's iran saudi arabia the u.a.e. now that are out of the picture what is their strategy going to be in yemen if they have one if they have one i don't think they have a strategy as we established already before you know they are different factions that fired for not really the control of the country but disrupting the country none of these forces of actually ever really try to control yemen because they know it's impossible very difficult to do because for that you would need a social political solution you would have you need social engagement with all of these communities you need an inclusive engagement with all the communities in yemen so what people try to do when they can control a country they try to disrupt that means trying to stop the other side from actually controlling the country so the you know the iranians try to be a thorn in the side of the saudis the saudis are trying to play their game against factions that they don't play want to play against most importantly who these because they see them as an iranian proxy the us want to control the southern part
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of yemen because that is very important for shipping and shipping lines it's a trading up they want to control the whole of africa which means they need to have the control over the southern part of yemen they're the ones who kind of achieved what they wanted to achieve but obviously it's not in their interest to have another civil war an even more escalated civil war in the north of the country so that is really you know the brings them back to the drawing board what impact do you see these developments in yemen is very important developments having on the g.c.c. crisis there's an important summit that sat taking place in kuwait tomorrow there's already been a meeting of foreign ministers today not all of them there but all eyes on what's going to happen tomorrow what impact if any will the developments in yemen have on the current crisis the good question i mean we have now we have confirmation that the marines are not going to send their most senior figure which is and he said and b s which the other most important player in this whole mob and so on the crown. but of saudis the most are the most important player in the crisis is not going to
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be there they sent the king the king at this point at this point in time is the only thing the king is that what you say who are they going to be are they going to send the king but not the crown prince okaying is really just a figure yes that's a bit me. so it suggests to us that in the g.'s this g.c.c. meeting is not going to be a major breakthrough i mean the tower's going to be there but what we what we were thinking yesterday many analysts were thinking yesterday when we saw the you know early of the lifestyle of shifting towards the coalition and towards the saudis it looked like this was a great way of getting out of the war very easily and that would have taken the burden of war off the back of marvin solomon gravel what can happen in twenty four hours absolutely but that would have meant could have more easily engaged the cut across because he's now bogged down in yemen which means he can't really put all his efforts into that into resolving if ever the cut across is so he said you know in an interview a couple of weeks ago he said they cut across a very very small issue we have bigger fish to fry yemen was one of them now if yemen would have been out of the picture they could have concentrated on qatar
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again and that wouldn't have been good for the crisis i think we would have possibly seen even an escalation of the crisis now i think there is a bigger burden of war on mounted inside man on the saudis because of what's going on in yemen which means they don't have a free mind and a free head to actually go and engage qatar in this in this so this means that this dispute with qatar is going to continue that way for the for the long run i think so unfortunately the way it looks if you look at the narratives you look at the rhetoric that comes out of all these different capitals it seems suggest that there nobody has a real interest in getting a solution on the way the countries wanted to negotiate one of the partners was willing to negotiate and now we're at a point where there is almost no return there's no return to it and say prevent a status of pre june two thousand and seventeen where the g.c.c. was acting as a unitary actor the g.c.c. as we know it will cease to exist i would say i'm totally thank you very much for that. andrea's i want to bring in our kimberly hall correspondent in washington
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d.c. kimberly we were just talking with my want to short while ago about the fact that the u.s. networks t.v. networks aren't covering the events in yemen as we are understandably but. quite interesting to see that this is not perhaps a focus of the u.s. right now the situation in yemen and the death of ali abdullah saleh has there been any reaction at all from the trump administration to this. i'm so glad you brought that up because it's actually something even before for the death of the former president you know this is certainly been an issue that many here at al-jazeera of knows given the extent of the humanitarian crisis in the level of involvement there there has been from the united states in yemen for more than a decade is so significant the suffering so significant that you think it should be making headlines here in the united states and yet it is not exempt for whether you talk to some strategically placed members of the trumpet ministration or academics and that is really where the conversation tends to be and so it's not surprising
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then that when the president had the opportunity to speak to reporters on this issue it didn't even come up in fact the reporters that were gathered there didn't even ask the question from what i could see from the pool report so it's certainly is noticeable noticeable notable to given the fact that there has been this very unclear policy from the trumpet ministration vs of yemen of course the u.s. involvement started with george w. bush in the so-called war on terror that meant not just military support advising but also that was stepped up under barack obama and the end of his administration there was because of the high civilian cost a recognition that perhaps the brakes needed to be put on a little bit with respect to arm cells but despite some of the promises on the campaign trail by donald trump about maybe getting out of foreign wars we saw just the opposite when he came into office the republican controlled congress putting in
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place in march the signal that there would be these continued military support in terms of the munitions by the millions and that was signed off in june and of course we saw this being highly touted by the president when he visited riyadh so certainly there has been an opportunity for the trumpet ministration to bring an end to the civilian suffering and to exert its influence that it has with saudi or . and that led coalition but that is something that has not occurred which many believe is pretty hypocritical given the fact that there has been very strong words against bashar last side and some of the atrocities that have taken place in syria but when we see this administration talking about yemen it uses words like displeased and frustrated in many whole kit in washington thank you very much for that kimberly. now let's take a look again at the main factors that brought down ali abdullah saleh the thirty year rule in yemen and his role in the war he was accused of corruption and amassing billions of dollars during his time as
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a leader which ended after pro-democracy protests began as part of the arab spring in two thousand and twelve hundred of hundreds of the many were killed after his government's crackdown on protesters a few years after he was ousted sylia remerge yet again as an important player in many political scene after he allied with who the fighters in twenty fifteen but in a surprise turn of events he turned his back on his rebel on eyes in a televised speech on saturday formally breaking with the whole thesis modules wary is back with us as is no our. job is from qatar university no eyes from the dar brookings center and i want to ask you about i have done a study because i know you've researched yemen as part of your research on transitional justice in the arab world after the arab spring. had the opportunity to leave power in a graceful way he was you know there was a deal after the arab spring began the protests began in yemen that he leave power
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without being prosecuted for you know for the crimes that were committed there and yet he still stayed in the picture wise that well i mean there were multiple flaws with this transition agreement that was signed in riyadh six years ago. as you just mentioned of course was granted immunity from prosecution side and his aides were granted immunity from prosecution. g.p.c. salles political party was also granted power over half the power of the government and so you know without a viable alternative leader as we said before head to. head the who was the vice president of sala who then took over and became the president was always quite weak and so the transition agreement all these factors within the transition agreement worked were quite flawed and then the national dialogue conference talks that took place under heavy in two thousand and thirteen and that concluded in two thousand and fourteen were also.


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