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tv   Inside Story 2018 Ep 72  Al Jazeera  March 14, 2018 2:32pm-3:01pm +03

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it was seventy six his children page tribute to their father as an extraordinary man whose work and legacy will live on for many years the philippines is withdrawing from the treaty that founded the international criminal court prison drug or to ted says says the move follows what he calls baseless unprecedented and our greatest attacks from u.n. officials he says the i.c.c. is attempt to acquire jurisdiction over him violates due process i.c.c. is investigating to take his drug war which is left thousands of people did officials from football's world governing body fee for meeting in greece after the president of one of its best known teens marched onto the pitch armed with a gun ivan survived his was enraged when a late goal was disallowed for k. thessaloniki against league leaders aka athens after a pitch invasion and when the game had ended the referee allowed the goal to stand those are the headlines the news will continue in half an hour's time but coming up
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right now is inside story to stay watching these. the u.s. warns the u.n. act now on syria always go it alone say when asked last backed by a bus the housemaids. how washington says enough is enough but what will the trump administration do this is a inside story. hello
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and welcome to the program. the united states wants an immediate cease fire more than three weeks of heavy bombing on syria's rebel held on clay. and the it warns the backing of the united nations security council if it doesn't get that the u.s. says it's prepared to take action that could draw it further into a war that also involves russia and iran so who can enforce a new cease fire and good washington go it alone with speak to our panel in a moment but first here's kristensen of the maze report from the u.n. . cities bleeding inside and dogs two weeks after agreeing to a cease fire the security council learned their words were having little effect for civilians on the ground in syria in eastern loan according to the u.n. more than one thousand have died in recent weeks amid continued shelling the united
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states said it was prepared to offer a second resolution calling for an immediate end to all military action in eastern guta and damascus city the massacre nikki haley backed her words with a threat we support the united nations political process that seeks to end the war in syria. but we also warn any nation that is determined to impose its will through chemical attacks and end human suffering most especially the outlaw syrian regime the united states remains prepared to act if we must in the last year as haley reminded everyone the u.s. bombed an airfield in syria believed to be associated with a chemical attack syria's ally the russians question the u.n. source of information saying syria continues to act within its rights going to do is teach the counterterrorism operation which has continued by the syrian military is not in contradiction with resolution twenty four i want the government of syria
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has every right to try and remove the threat to the safety of its citizens the cease fire resolution proposed by the united states would take effect immediately with no exceptions for groups on the un's terrorist list it would require russian support to pass highlighting yet again the limits the border divided security council can do for the people of syria christian salumi al-jazeera the united nations. russia has one of the us a very serious consequences if there's any u.s. strike on syria foreign minister sergey lavrov said it's one thing to is possibly exploit the microphone in the u.n. security council and it's another think when both the russian and american history is of communication channels it's clearly stated via these channels what can be done and what must not be done. let's take a look at what's been happening inside of the damascus suburb is tunnel to has been
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under siege since two thousand and thirteen and is the last rebel stronghold near the capital almost eleven hundred civilians have been killed in washington batt syrian government attacks in the last three weeks including hundreds of women and children at least four hundred thousand residents trapped inside the un clave with more than one thousand people in need of medical evacuation let's go now to our guests joining us in moscow vs just love letters of a former russian diplomat. in the middle east and the us in london. director of the council for british understanding and in most parts via skype has any idea professor of international relations and security issues couples university welcome to you all let me start by asking mr much as of this why do you think all the parties are not able to agree on a ceasefire that can be implemented by all the parties oh i think that
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russian president is absolutely clear and. hard are if you listen to mr bork in. the last. couple of geisha and door applying door to door to door russian audience and to the world here gunson pregnant is attention on military aspect of russian foreign policy. i think that previously the united states had every good information from inside the russian ruling circles inside russian government military and. intelligence go to so calls that are russia will not go ahead when america will make initiative for. getting a blow to or those syrian army had to and some russian special mission today i
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think it is obvious is that russia had changed its mind and i am sure that americans are very closely if watching. this situation inside russia inside the russian government and side grimly and and i saying that. now it was very serious. to act from russian side it will be if the united states go ahead with the previous regimes missile door do you think i see a point a limit goes into saddam's the deal do you think the americans will go ahead with the threats and carry lots and carry on a military intervention inside syria. that's very hard to tell i think it depends on the big question is what is actually the american intent here because if it is about trying to help the four hundred thousand syrians in ruto who have suffered so
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much and let's not really forget that mean areas of routes have been under siege since november two thousand and thirteen this area was hit by chemical weapons attack in that year as well if it is all about that then any intervention really is almost certainly too late and in many ways there is an argument to say that the people of east ruta are being used as a pawn in tensions between russia and the united states so exactly what will the americans try to do is it about punishing the regime for what has happened the use of chemical weapons the reported use of chlorine amongst other things in this area or is it to try to weaken the regime's hold its military capabilities this is very unclear and the risks are huge of course that actually could escalate into clashes direct clashes between american and russian forces both of which by the way are of course present in syria will ultimately the people in eastern ruta has to be the
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focus of whatever happens now because it is they who are suffering it is they who are living in basins and they who don't have any food and medication they who have actually been denied vital surgical equipment and indeed of course the evacuation of people who are desperately in need of vital surgery and that must be the crux of any policy going forward from the united states or did any other country but then if this is to be the top priority for the international community and the americans in particular let me go to mr. must got this isn't the first time that civilians have been subject to see to force them into submission or starvation this is the first time that whole communities have been driven out of their own areas in syria this is the. first time that we've seen children when men being bombed by the. syrian government strikes still the international committee is doing nothing. then
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the international community the afghans expand what is it then be talked about the international community in this context. you are talking about the security. security council where there are five big countries. out star that is the. number of that spare made in order to establish some kind of corridor to feed people in the hundreds to help them through a bag great. endure. because. for russia and therefore the syrian government as well as party and. that is only want to be heard and that's the destruction of the enemies of this regime so in that context as you in your introduction to the could see today thousands of civilians as necessary to match that so international community spirit or. u.n. in the sense is absolutely
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a case of it doesn't whatever it needed to be done because the great powers they are confronting each other. and people are. a good price so i guess. americans and russians come to. that the priority should be some to us and not put down stairs for the future of their. region maybe the continuation of the situation to be thought. of as none of them very respected because these pirates are i mean the p.r. by the russian. government in order to say that they are doing something media space after i think it's just. didn't continue the bombardment so international community were put there. and they can't do anything the summit to solve i mean of listening to you saying basically of the russians won't tolerate any military
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action in syria however the busses themselves since they seem to be sending mixed signals they are the ones who indicated that is the what is going to be part of the deescalation zone in the agreement but at the same time the breaking of the promises they made my opinion is. judgment about russian intervention is very important because in your russian intention. or are not american. it depends on american intervention if american now demonstrate in the skull ation and the great mark for that. intention of the united states government is. delicate rex tillerson that we are headed about. a less than one hour igor soldo his means that some. yes
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a lot of good sense as it is where it was done the drama that ministration it's up salute to clear up today right now i think it's remarks differ and as sutton changes in american educated dogs american paul and foreign policy in syria and the name in the middle east ice in caracas will react. different in different way it was reacted in during the shah of iran. they are azhar why because and you know using arguments. for chemical weapons using and so on it doesn't work today and your time. position will go will be on the. depression praising syria and i mean we hear about violation of international law by demick
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a lot their actions so on now it doesn't work i think that different situation we are facing today and i think all sides should calm and this should ration from. a current events not that that was previously the way you talk about that current event with all my respect with so much as of the way you talk you give me the impression that the thousands of civilians have been killed those who have been bombed those who seek and refuse the absolutely nowhere to go i'm not taking into consideration in your calculations the stories were not above the people of syria while i think that accuse ation based on the wrong information of what is going on on the on the on the ground its different view if the united. states want to see some arguments the
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beginning while asian and appearance it find it very easy to invent it watch and saw a quite a lot of times and. fabrication of many other arguments that are not to work in the day so i think that it is not time for any of publications ok you know what mr russia making. fleet is making money in this short seashore of syria right now we are using rockets and declination of chief of russian stuff to get russia mouth is ready serious icing it's better not to move ahead. that we had from here from hainan and it is a may it may in great britain mr doyle doesn't this remind you of the whole of episode around the fall of all the international community's outcry over what's
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happening nothing happened after that. there are massive similarities you know with that situation and certainly went down to the very very bitter end in eastern iowa and i think that those of us who really care about the people in east router have been hoping hoping somewhat in vain that a solution would be found where people actually wouldn't have to be reduced to the sort of circumstances that we are seeing today but i think we need to be clear here that hospitals and medical facilities have been hit and router now the russians know perfectly well that the syrian regime has been doing this this doesn't even therefore need to be a debate about the use of chemical weapons the syrians a syrian regime has violated the security council that russia itself signed up for and voted for it didn't veto it and we have seen a complete and recklessness about abandoning international violating security
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council resolutions and i think that there is an issue here does the security council matter in international relations anymore because this is also very very much at stake now what happens now i hope it doesn't escalate but i do hope that russia russian leaders will listen to the pressure and try to really get the syrian regime to allow a proper sation of his cities the proper access that is required because anything other than that is simply an outrage this cannot be allowed to continue but nobody wants to see that sort of escalation going forward don't forget also that we are seeing escalation elsewhere in syria it's not just about root are we seeing it also in africa and we are also seeing it off in the north of syria as well and it lip and there needs to be action there so one has to keep one's i'll router but also in other areas to mr yanni i mean when you talk to western diplomats about what is
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happening in syria they would tell you that ultimately it's better to maintain. the international order the international multilateral institutions although they don't seem to be efficient because that's the only way we can prevent. massacres against civilians you look at the situation on the ground what is what is happening it's it's it is a massacre of civilians in different parts of the country so what is the problem here is the part of the international institutions or is it there's something something completely wrong about the syrian conflict. then institutions do not exist if the. members that they do not respect them they don't want them to function this is precisely what is being that you have just begun back in the aftermath of the. best boardwalk then. this is your nation going to create that. bad the two front feet is the responsibility because
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it's resent the members they don't want to find turned red and then un was created if you're told that this time after the second ego or we are going to get some kind or some seven are there is a collaboration between a state and a game that usually is fading not because of the idea of your un the charter of the un is but because the interests of the state. over the interest of the international community are knocking and presidents are any situation that come. under the. independent from the interest of the individual nation the un is taken hostage did that cause this situation during the cold war and then the end of the quarter or we are the same so on the great powers come to some.
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understanding that they have it because the sponsibility. national interests continue to see the massacres of the. more devastation and more destruction and the consequent see more minute for the ordinary people who do not count this kind of calculation by the great power so. they know they are nothing if. you don't want to. mr matters of i mean the russians thought of the us turner talks in a way basically to rebrand themselves as an honest broker but by by continuing to play this world which is basically tilting the ground in favor of us. paving the way for the massacre of civilians aren't you concerned that the money might lose the trust of the international community. in russia is they going to see to that all occurs ations against the syrian regime bashar assad is far from from the
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truth because it is going on a fight against terrorism and all forces that are fighting terrorism in syria. came through of this county on the invitation of the. dimmit authority and in russia there are big questions what kind of leggo will stop those of the united states in the syrian territory and why they have a calming and supporting groups that was a question arose in russia officially right now i think that it is and now it's as one of the subject why the u.s. doesn't want to lose in the. in that in that ah because it's a only in the ted it out is without. who is out of control of generosity
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of groups. and you know sarah that is broke lamed as a terrorist act by the united nations security council resolution saying that. legitimity. were wrong of. actions of the russian army and syrian army in that has in the good is i'm going to it is not a correspond door that a real international law ok i think it's is main gunther addictions between the russia and the united states while watching what is going on on syria that it mr dog will now a united studds doesn't acknowledge the negligence of sudan the government and it is one of the reasons why we watched how because the. mr durrant i mean against the backdrop of the inefficiency of the international political order or the ongoing
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massacre of civilians in syria it seems like this is going to be any a pattern to pave the way for the syrian government to take over eastern or and then the rebels will be left with the last remaining sole goal which is live in a way or another this could be the beginning of the end don't you think. i think the syrian regime is certainly going to prevail in return and i would disagree with your previous speaker i don't think the united states really cares that much about the fate of routes or tool because if it did we would have seen a considerably much greater diplomatic and other actions before and i think that actually the trump administration largely has accepted that ultimately the syrian regime it is likely to prevail against other syrians but it has other issues within syria primarily it was the issue of yes. but also the iranian presence in syria as well so i think one should be careful of assuming that this newfound
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concern for router is really genuine in any way it just doesn't fit with what we are seeing and indeed there's an element here that the united states may be just merely and barest by the illegitimate actions of the russians i see a point it's gone too far and is trying to. make sure that not using chemical weapons and certainly not bombing hospitals it is the way forward if the united states really cared it would have done something different i see your point mr mr yet if this is going to be my last question do you think that diplomacy is still can step in and put an end to the situation in syria i don't believe it was a challenge or if. it is your hands you know i am free to use it many ation is not working it's absolutely clear i mean you know if you're sure that once russians and
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ukrainians and this you know government wants to go through to clean. you don't do it from our end immense who questioned the legitimacy of ammunition timid guard. not from moscow you're talking about the legitimacy government. must guess i don't know where those. because it comes from so what we are going to see heavy heavy bombardments on different bases i see a power under control on records and consequently and the situation about again you are important question why when we sure did they are. russian. forces they were not out of time thank you very much indeed mr hudson. christopher thank you very much indeed for your contribution to the program and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dizzier
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