tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 124 Al Jazeera May 5, 2018 2:32pm-3:01pm +03
the laws inside land that blasted off from california and will reach its destination in six months it's hoped the findings could help us understand more about the origins of earth after the big bang hawaii's big island which is dealing with a major volcanic eruption has been hit by a series of earthquakes nearly two thousand people have been forced to leave their homes because of threats from lava flows and gas the u.s. has announced a change in policy that could lead to the deportation of tens of thousands of on german emigrants president donald trump is ending a program that gave them temporary refuge after a hurricane hit honduras nearly twenty years ago. at least three gunmen and one civilian have been killed in fighting in india in the midst of kashmir it happened in the capital srinagar as demonstrators tried to prevent security forces arresting separatist fighters. believed to be trapped inside the operation is going on things are under the control of the thing is an under control the want. it is not much.
of a solution properties and another thing. i think out of the control. brothers who left in the past they left for us they took up arms after seeing the tyranny in kashmir now we have come out to rescue our brothers who are trapped in the gun battle and the rival protests are expected in the german hometown of col marks and so on balance a statue to mark two hundred years since his birth. as a gift from china where the ruling party claims it's carrying on the philosopher's communist legacy those are your headlines inside story is next. the u.a.e. has deployed more soldiers in yemen's remote island of subcontract the gulf country
has been expanding its influence not just in southern yemen but across the red sea and horn of africa region so what's behind this military build up this is inside story. hello welcome to the program i'm jane dokken the flag of the united arab emirates has been raised over a public buildings and yemen's remote island off so cock sure that's near somalia's northeastern coast some local say it is a power grab at the expense of the internationally recognized government led by the president hadi and the how to government says the u.a.e. action is an act of hostility formally they are allies in the saddam led war
against the who think rebels in the capital but the u.a.e. has promoted separatists in the south and now calls the shots in large parts of that region and so cocked island will bring in i guess a member first let's go topless as this report. showing support for yemen's prime minister group in dhaka hundreds of yemenis took to the streets of support is the u.s. boost its presence in this remote on to the gulf region. the united arab emirates flew in soldiers along with tanks and armored vehicles the shown here setting up a security cordon having expelled local troops from the airport yemeni government sources of since confirmed to al-jazeera that u.a.e. troops have also taken control of the main port and denied the yemeni prime minister and most of his cabinet permission to leave situated off the coast of somalia and the unesco heritage site known to many as the galapagos of the indian ocean is famous for its unusual wide life and scenery but with a three thousand meter long runway ideal for fighter jets and large military
aircraft the island is also situated between the horn of africa and yemen just be on the red sea and some of the busiest sea lanes in the world what they have done here is they have found an island which is very remote from both yemen and somalia very far off the coast but it's very strategically located and it kind of acts as a quasi aircraft carrier in the main over the u.a.e. in the middle of the in you notion where they can control traffic and obviously to control the traffic you can also give favorable access to the sea lanes to companies that are related to the u.a.e. so it's a military and geopolitical strategy which is very much linked to the economic strategy of you know united arab emirates having already invested heavily in somaliland and expanded the commercial port of beara the u.a.e. has control of the culture is seen by many is the latest move by the emirates to spread its influence well beyond its borders people have often remarked on the strategic value of sokoto or there have been speculations that. one power or
another might try to actually establish a presence on the island but. with the war in yemen entering its fourth year the u.a.e. now controls much of the south of the country with a strong presence on both sides of the entrance to the red sea and so katra place right in the middle alex go topless inside story. let's get straight to the story and bring in our guests in london via skype mohammed jim as a writer for all kids newspaper in uk said samuel romani research at oxford university and specialist on conflict in yemen in beirut bethen mccann middle east reporter for the independent and author of the first eyewitness report on the u.a.e. in sokoto of a good to have you with us i'm going to come to you first mohammed to make considering your relationship with the government and your understanding of the way
it works what do you make of the fact that the u.a.e. and its chips on psychiatrists have refused to let government delegates including the prime minister leave the island what's going on there what sort of statement is that what i think the it goes back to the. to the relationship that the nickel to relationship between the government of his government and the emirates this is the mines also what happened a few months ago in aden when there was a conflict between the soldiers and trolls related to the south and. the transitional council which is supported by the imagery the iraqis and the troops of the government supported by governor his government. now were yesterday and the day before we are facing the same stage of this hidden it's a. conflict between had is and between how do you and the iraqis. but it seems
that. emulates want to expand their control over this island because there is no hope of these there so that they can say we are fighting the whole of these we are supporting the government again the because the this island is in the in the south and it is in the indian ocean exactly that excuse away doesn't it. actually i'm just a country. though that are not there anyway although. troops in so-called. yemenis royal to the yemeni government. governed by. but from the minorities point of view i think they want this important for its own science in their country it is they want this in all it's it's it's in the middle like in the middle between the gulf and the african and it's the marquis's want to present themselves as
a mediator between the west and the east and this island is very important strategically for emirates i could just hold on let me just bring in samuel ramani if i may to just go back to what we saw happen in the last couple of hours most recent developments stopping this government delegation from leaving i mean do you agree that this is just part of the fallout between the u.a.e. and the had a government isn't a real statement that doesn't matter where you are or was it just easy pickings for them on a psychiatrist. i think it is a sign of a major vallie average in the u.a.e. and the heavy government because the u.a.e. has lost confidence in heavies ability to restore stability and to restore a secular state d.m. and that's what his primary goal is how he is not if he does it send over the who doesn't see it in that was over two years ago the u.a.e. initially has a lot with salai when sally died in december they cast their lot with us all the many separatists who are directly combating with abby and now as a cutter they're finding another avenue and yet another place is gigli important in
the heart of africa and in yemen to conflict against a heavy government i think the sign of the u.a.e. and saudi arabia have broadly disagreed over how the long term viability of the u.a.e. believe is not viable and these losses legitimacy is home raging across the country whereas had to be believes is the only pepin job or against iranian expansion in the country biffen mckernan do you see this is a statement of u.a.e. growing dominance and control in yemen and i think so i think part of the reason the culture is so fascinating is this mix of the both hot on soft power strategies both in yemen and in the widest sort of horn of africa region the fact that the prime minister and his that occasion haven't been allowed to leave according to yemeni media reports in the last day was to read a sign from the u.a.e. that they are here to stay the unloading of heavy heavy artillery on the island for the first time again is very much flexing its muscle and showing that they have
designs which is definitely odds with the government even though on paper they are allies in the fight against these on the mainland. it's due to you that we have a lot of this knowledge of what's happening on so cock sure you've managed to find out about the u.a.e. troop build up and possibly more about the intentions so tell us what it is that you saw from a military point of view and what do you see as their strategy that. from a military point of view there's at least one base on the island that's not new information the u.a.e. did admit in may last year what is not known is who exactly is appraising from there we know that the troops are sent there for intensive first aid and battlefield training and then they go on to fights on the mainland it's not clear whether there are any specialized troops whether there are any secret black sites though the way that the u.s. has been alleged by the associated press to be operating from a tray and quite
a few places in southern yemen and it's not clear what the relationship is between the military presence on the island and the yemeni government forces on the island it did seem told us that. governments soldiers salaries are being topped up by the u.a.e. on top of what they are from the government and. but as we've seen in the last couple of days it looks like any of the soldiers stationed there who are from the yemeni mainland who think kicks out and sent home or at least that appears to be the plan of quite a few sources who are there at the moment have told me so like i say it's not just hard power there there are no heat these two fights there was no indication that the island could become the front for anything violence but it's most definitely an extension of what they're doing in southern yemen and like i say the build up of
the military and the fact that the commanders do walk around the town quite freely has been a presence for some time now shows that little by little the emirates really have taken control of this place politically as well as militarily mohamad the head of government has called as an act of hostility and i'm just wondering where this leaves the governor because it's quite an extraordinary statement isn't it if you've got your own troops walking around stopping the prime minister from leaving when it comes to the question of sovereignty for. example well as you said. that relationship between the monarchies and i discover mint is not that it's all that good and. there are many concerns from had his point of view regarding the monarchy's behavior in the south and then. it seems that the martys are not happy with the movements done by. mysa been dealt out of the prime minister recently when he moved from a gun to
a collage of them oh yeah and he went to this. fall i learned. which is controlled by the amenities now so they are not a seemingly happy or these movements they want to say that any sort of movement and this sort of action on the ground must be must be taken. from the monarchies now. there are some reports today that the saudis sent a committee to see the situation there they are going to talk as the report says to the prime minister who is still there in had the boat which is the capital of this island and they are going to talk to the monarchies that will try to reconcile and solve this problem ok sam where do you think this leaves saudi arabia they are sending a delegation to psychiatrists but alongside that you've got that relationship with
the u.a.e. which has been strained because of the u.a.e. is gaining of power in yemen the fact that the u.a.e. is supporting the southern transitional council in the south of the country i think it is the saudi arabia in quite a difficult position because saudi arabia and the u.a.e. alliance are seen as the cornerstone of their saudi towards the gulf and december if they crystallize that into a coherent doctrine so now these tensions are yemen now they've exploded saudi arabia anything mitigate the damage and it entered. and he said convince the u.a.e. they act unilaterally by supporting the south humanities and then by supporting any other groups that oppose had the weather been so hot or elsewhere and the country is just arming and emboldening the houdinis and iranian backed forces so the saudi arabians first of all why do how dialogue and vision sense of unity consensus about who their real big enemy is and why they have to stay united to confront that secondly i think that saudi arabia will for meant any kind of pro had to
demonstrations like the ones we've been seeing in psychiatry against the military occupation to miss you here the costs of if you're going to unilaterally inviolate a human sovereignty in this way are too high and that they must cissie the course in the g.c.c. i mean this is an idea of part of a broader ideological struggle within lama than say it's secular vision and i had been solomon's vision of just continue your rants to nationalism and this is going to try and and south yemen or major theaters and then saudi arabia wants to get the upper hand in this diplomatic struggle again that let's take a closer look at the u.s. military role in yemen and north africa and we really see an interesting picture forming him i guess have touched on this and the country has bases along the southern coast of yemen the main port city of aden is dominated by u.a.e. backed separatists on the african side of the red sea it operates the a sub naval and air base in eritrea the u.a.e. is building a military base in beveren somalia as breakaway region of somaliland and buys d.p.
world has signed a thirty a deal to manage a report an agreement that has not been recognized by the somali government in mogadishu the u.a.e. is also developing the ports in puntland in other parts of somalia who self-governing status is not internationally recognized the u.a.e. is training and equipping the local maritime police force there but its relations have soured with somalia last month my goodness she dispended a u.a.e. . graham to train some of its troops soon after it sees millions of dollars from a u.a.e. plane when you look at the horn of africa and i know we've touched on it briefly and you look at the the multiple players involved there not just the saudi arabia that france and china and the u.s. and cats on and increasingly turkey it's quite a warring picture. coming from this isn't it i mean you really see
a build up of control and it's all about i guess access to these seaways these ports. one hundred percent this is sort of what's more than empire building looks like in the twenty first century i guess and this is we're seeing the u.a.e. evolving into what used to be quite content a state an emirate a story of a group of nations you speak quite content to be led by saudi arabia the big brother in the region but in the aftermath of the arab spring has realized that maybe these existing structures are not as solid as they were previously and therefore is become one of the most interventionist players in the entire region what you're seeing is the buying up in the monopolizing of all of these ports along the red sea even actually as far as limits so in the eastern mediterranean all the way into the indian ocean is stephanie a big game plan but a lot of these places are sort of under the radar of most news organizations and
most of most western powers the not places with significance. than all places where was it being forced anymore necessarily but this is why sculpture i think has become the epicenter of this strategy it's almost become a sort of crimea esque situation where both soft soft pulsar was the u.a.e. and the u.s. money is quite beguiling for support for its residents they have been long marginalized by the mainland governments and they were left to fend for themselves basically after these two huge site clones ripped across the island in two thousand and fifteen they destroyed eighty percent of the island's roads they made one third of the population homeless and hardy's government did almost nothing to relieve you so the fact that the u.a.e. has come along offering health care offering to rebuild schools offering in some cases it appears that trees are getting special work visas goes up and up and this is
a place where unemployment is rife for people who are very poor and he has obviously suffered a lot in the last couple of years due to the conflict. these are all things that one hundred percent pulls towards the u.a.e. away from the mainland yemeni governments it's i think maybe something that gets lost in this discussion as yes this is an ideological battle between the major powers between. between the government supposedly sits and but on the grounds of treason cells are very often quite ambivalence towards the states of yemen with the modern stay as it currently exists they they feel that they've been ignored for a very long time and this is one of the major reasons the u.a.e. has been able to get a foothold here because they've offered people the things that yemen was not offering them so if you're looking at the way modern power plays out and this part of the world and it makes a lot of sense from from an on the ground perspective definitely ok so they feel
they've been ignored and you confirming that they indeed have some real money talks if you look at what's happening. in yemen in the horn of africa and the play is that strain money at troops to go to you know a plane loads of cash that they have been stopped a u.a.e. plane in the horn of africa and i'm just wondering how this plays out as far as the blockade is concerned with cattle because cattle is also going to interest the cats on turkey versus the u.a.e. saudi arabia and other places there yeah i agree this is a very interesting complication that the u.a.e. and saudi arabia are having dissension discord overs of gotcha because if you look at this procedure realist you bluebirds i thought it would be in their interests as the edit one of the big reasons why the u.a.e. has reacted so strongly to the planeload seizure money at ten million dollars in the diplomatic crisis is the somalia is not only aligned with turkey it was also aligned with guitar as giving them desired to support within the arab league against the blockade so i think that ultimately this is going to be
a broader struggle between turkey and qatar as the u.a.e. for going troll which. which ever since the the coup in july when he said steyn has been burgeoning over the course of this region turkey has a strong stronghold in in somalia but somaliland in ethiopia seems to be leaning towards the u.a.e. at least and said he has a foothold in djibouti i think as of now in terms i mean you know you have you know any seems to be all the ballet has it or is going to jumping in a place or plays down the as does djibouti i judy is an interesting case over here i think that china obviously has the upper hand over in djibouti just in general simply because of its control of the military base and now it's asking to build a port in march which would be if it has it would probably surpass anything the u.a.e. has in berbera and the difference they call those two has an advantage beyond them uys probably the second most powerful factor there and the saudis have a military base there as well the u.s. having a crucial military installations of life probably act towards the defense of the
u.a.e. interests there because they both are interested in can countering terrorism in the hell so i think that there the u.s. and the u.a.e. are probably going to be for comedy against china for supremacy in djibouti gabbie because just because of the nature of so you can dress and desire to india and china and africa in spite of the trump and iterations brotherly and developed african strategy mohamed a weakened yemen obviously plays into what's happening in the horn of africa and the discourse there. when it comes to political developments between these plays the proxy wars the potential proxy wars growing proxy wars where are we this is the problem now because it. we have so many factions and yemen so many parties conflict and parties and there is no way for one of these parties to win this war and at the same time there is no way any of them could think of a political solution peaceful solution. because it's again it is sort of british
regional war it's difficult for the inside factions to decide because the decision is sometimes outside. now we kind of fed back to the what the market has said about the importance of the political solution peaceful solution and how difficult it is this or if the regional powers like iran's audi's emirates and some other international powers like united states and russia could agree to a political solution in yemen it's difficult for the emmys themselves to bring back peace to their country especially when you find this war is expanding and it takes different ways and it takes different age and and so many factions. in june in this war so many militias it's it's difficult to say when are you going to
take the first step towards the peaceful solution as long as there are many inside and the regional powers thinking that the military solution or military solution would be the way. the military solution being the way whether it's in yemen the horn of africa or so they enter a sense i have a bet and if we can just look at as a culture and if this plays out since a cutter and how important an island this is away from its military potential as a launching pad i mean it's fragile ecosystem and what it means for the world. yes it's a very delicate coast ecosystem it's the last remnants of a subtropical subtropical forest which is about twenty million years old it's been treasured by conservationists some biologists since. modern day exploration of its species and its for and fauna began access has always been very
difficult. been under threat by human activity for at least the last six hundred years the archipelagos sort of gradually drying out which is changing the climate which is already quite are it. and there's overgrazing and lots of the really precious dragons blood trees that damage to the eye and they don't go anywhere else happen felled for making room for homes in the pasture and that kind of thing but when the as trip to connect to the islands to mainland yemen was built in one thousand nine hundred nine. really sped up the effects that we were already seeing damaging biko system on the island. and now that the merits of the what many people are very worried about is that there might be this large scale development for example one businessman that's my reports and partner and i came across told us that he was going to build five star hotels across the island and it currently has
various infrastructure that would support that so the question is how on earth can something like that be achieved which could be actually a positive development for the island if it was managed properly and if it were jobs and it bore income and it bought more prosperity to its residents but there's so little known about what the long term plans are whether it wants to be to be just a military base or minutes for base come holiday resorts i mean it's it is it is a paradise there's no a like here on earth it's definitely a sort of jewel in the emirates crown if it suddenly becomes this kind of sort of bustle. emirates i have read it and i have read we've run out of time thanks very much for that or are they going victims of this yemen war samuel ramani bethen mckernan and muhammad may thank you very much for your thoughts on this you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion you can go to our facebook page at facebook dot com ford slash a.j.
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