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tv   Inside Story 2018 Ep 314  Al Jazeera  November 10, 2018 8:32pm-9:01pm +03

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had the approach of upsetting everyone at the same time allies as well as adversaries and instead of working together with them they've actually turn them against the u.s. now this new program that. the crown has mentioned i mean i wonder how this will work sitting as i do in brussels how this will work with tesco because pesca is made up of twenty five members and this is kind of a coalition of the willing it also pulls in the u.k. which is traditionally not interested in some sort of european armies of this is an interesting creation of a coalition of the willing and how this will affect nato will it help or will it compete with nato in the future is also problematic i think everyone would be happy if europe did more heavy lifting the u.s. is involved in three theaters right now and if your did more heavy lifting in its own region i think that would be very much appreciated and i want to bring bring up something to theresa made a good point that she said that there maybe it is a fair critique that europe could do more of the heavy lifting and some would say that that's what donald trump has been trying to get to it's just maybe not perhaps
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the most diplomatic way that he says things and let's just be honest he's actually insulted a lot of allies bit and said things that just weren't actually true about you know they owed the u.s. money etc etc having said that do you think he has a fair critique. of course i mean he doesn't have a point the europeans are not doing their share to collective security within nato and. european allies everybody agreed to a two percent spending goal in terms of g.d.p. and many countries including germany are not moving closer toward that goal at least not fast enough and saw too many americans including donald trump for european allies come across as needy whiney allies and free riders and he ticklers this in a pretty crass kind of way but i think he does have an underlying point that europe
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needs to shape up in needs to invest in its own capabilities in order to be a credible ally that the u.s. also takes seriously and also to prepare for the eventuality that the u.s. will call it quits and no longer on the right and unconditional security guarantee for europe which is not a very improbable consolation in the coming decades u.s. president on a trump is a self identified nationalist he specifically use that word a few weeks ago in a rally he embraced and he said yeah go ahead and call me that. what might that mean going forward what do you see that potentially meaning. well i think it's a very real risk of isolationism isn't there i think and it's clear in terms of the rhetoric around trump and most recently of course in the midterm election campaign season if as you say not only the nationalist as a kind of in the french town close nationalists us to say you know closing the
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borders protecting the nation states against sort of foreign influence i think the real risk of course is of the u.s. withdrawals as we've been saying from from europe and we draw also those old to educate alliances and particularly when it comes to helping western european countries with that offense the real risk i think is that this heightens it's tension between opposite tension between the likes of trump them across as they try and sort of appear to be the dominant powers in on the world stage the real there is also quite serious concerns around the future of the european union of course and the future of some of the major powers in europe angela merkel's term who comes in and shortly cries trying to become the least they given in the european union but it comes at a time lag of moments and it's really in elsewhere or at postulating around the idea of removing their own nation states from the european union so they come the real the real risk this might take would go back to the the package the run of the stuff the program around us ice isolationism just before the first world war and
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indeed for a second mobile where the risk is of the kind of you know the rise of the populous government parts in western europe or else way to russia might lead to some kind of central conflict so that's a real risk i think everyone you know all powers received try and try to avoid done but still you know france germany western europe well absolutely want to avoid a situation where by their death huge security money places risk and traces of what about that there have been a lot of as you would say populist some would say nationalist some would just say a flat out far right leaders that are gaining hole that are taking around and a lot of places some european countries some and south america what is the state of liberal democracies right now. i think they're under threat and things are going to get worse before they get better as i expect the global economy to be slowing down in europe we see great concerns with hungry and poland so it's interesting that this edu that mccrone has put together did not include poland which is
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a major. player in eastern europe so we see kind of a paradox which mccrone because he talks about multilateralism but at the same time he's kind of fracturing the e.u. because there is hesco this organized group within the e.u. and by just working with this coalition of the willing. carved out of some member states only central eastern european or. part of that region is sonia so he kind of pull it out largely because of. the current government that we've seen an interesting development there with the polish president when he visited the united states he discussed having a camp trunk and this kind of speaks to a much larger issue that poland doesn't feel that other european member states would come to protect them if there should be any sort of invasion from russia so the fact that a european member states is turning to the u.s. not nato but to the u.s. for camp trump speaks largely to you know lack of faith in the europeans coming to
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their rescue or to protect them. and you mentioned this a little bit ago about merkel soon will not be on the international stage anymore what does that mean for europe. i mean first of all i think the broader context is that germany has been dealing with its own internal political turmoil for the past year and has been the last year for germany's role in europe and germany is rulon in the world chancellor merkel is weakened as a result once she departs the stage whether that's next year the year there after a new leader will be there the real question is whether we have a functioning coalition government that has a clear agenda to engage at the international stage that can be done without americal of course her experience at the global stage will be lacking but there will be a new german chancellor and t.r.
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she will be able to kind of slowly you know fit fill the field issues but the broader issue is whether there will be increasing volatility and instability in the in the german domestic political situation and that would greatly curtail germany's ability to play a constructive role in europe and beyond ok. david. obviously the bracks it actually happening in approved is obviously was indicative of some issues that were bubbling up in the e.u. but now that it is it is happening what do you think it is indicative of in the future what role is that playing in the shifting and changing dynamics in the. what i think i mean first the obviously the u.k. will draw from the european union that would change to some extent the nature of the group and not usually because as we've been hearing the u.k. traditionally doesn't like being involved in too many dish in europe but i think
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the real the real risk is the the knock on effect regs it might have it brings it perceived to be a success and that's very much in doubt at the moment there and the there are some some party some political parties on the extreme right and. across europe who will look to try and draw examples of bragg's it's to remove their you know if they're successful electorally to review their nation states from from the european union. in france of course we've led by no mean of that at the moment currently calling. this as he is always try to draw france and from the eurozone in century future in fifty years from the european union it is today we have the northern the league in power we've already talked like germany the rise of the end of the door slam events there's a real risk of the populace parties using sample from bragg's it and try and it tragedy some kind of referendum or at least some votes some meaningful votes on their own they don't need them donations states' role in europe. i would suggest
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really this depends largely on whether or not breaks as easy as an economic and political success that's not given any by any means at the moment and it looks as though really the nation kind of the nature of the u.k.'s relationship with europe after break it will really depend on whether those populists parties in france italy germany elsewhere to try and draw in those examples that are moments i would say you know currently especially given that promise leadership the future of the e.u. is relatively stable it just depends really on how things emerge over the next few years with the u.k. theresa how. does and if if the answer is yes how how does russia benefit from all of. the turmoil. i hope that's not too harsh of a word but all the uncertainty with what's happening with so many countries in europe right now and and the relationship between europe and the us does russia benefit from that this is russia's long term interests they don't like the e.u. and they don't like nato so seeing
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a fracturing as we've seen across europe it's far easier to play member states off each other no nato has really helped keep the peace for all these decades and i think it's a shame it shouldn't be underwritten or if if this group can work together with nato i think it would be a very positive thing but fragmentation is always dangerous. the question is you know old wine in new bottles i mean how much funding that's always the key question where's the money coming from and will it replicate what's going on it made a we no one wants that so russia and china we should speak about both of them together because in the national security strategy of the us they put both of them into the same basket and i think traditionally europeans tend to see china as kind of far away nothing that we really have to worry about but we've seen recent exercises with russia from the black sea to the mediterranean two years ago and last summer in the baltic sea so i think this is kind of showing europeans that you
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know russia and china are here together performing these exercises and that it's harder to kind of write china off as being for their way also china's first overseas bases open in djibouti which is right here in europeans neighborhood so i think europeans have to think of a larger geo political landscape traditionally your opinion says they don't do geopolitics but don't think they have that luxury any longer the world is changing the world is shifting that's why we're having this conversation it is a completely different world now obviously than it was one hundred years ago everything is different but could you ever see a scenario where there could be another world conflict a world war. of course i mean we should never rule this out and tourism mention the heating up of rhetoric between china and the us if there is a war between china and the us this will have very far reaching very very stream
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is serious consequences saw of course we stumbled into world war one that's the that's the historic history lesson a lot of individuals than expected we got the peace wrong that's what we're celebrating hundred years of armistice and and peace. and then stumble again or look into wonder aloud world war two to happen so i think yes we have a resurgence of nationalism and that's reading round for future conflicts so we can't rule it out but i want you to respond to that real quickly as well when i think i think we rely on people behind the things that we said we would like somebody with a kind of sense of i guess come behind donald trump or behind someone like me or my car and i kind of i hope you know first long as we've been able to maintain peace in europe who will we be able to rely on on diplomacy to work its way i'd like to think that regardless of how the rhetoric gets we will be able to avoid you know
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kind of a war in the same way as it turned into a traditional that's a loss that will and i'm conflict which involves the use of people if not millions of people what is the risk i think now is more like the kind of said logical war involving some kind of cyber warfare you know the real the real risk to china and us complex ok and teresa i don't see any easy solutions or many challenges ahead but i think we all need to work together and with one voice to prevent and hopefully. continue the peace and we should remember all this on november eleventh salute lee it's a perfect final word thank you all for the conversation preceded very much allan david lease and thorston banner and thank you for watching you can see the program again any time if you visit our website go to al-jazeera talk on for the discussion on our facebook page facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle a.j. inside story from the richelle carey news from the teen.
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istanbul with saudi arabia the united states and european countries tire birder one says riyadh stalling of the investigation into the case needs to end under simmons joins us live from istanbul andrew is this the audio recording do you think that we've been hearing so much about now for the past what for are five weeks. it does appears to be if it does indeed this is a hard hitting statement that the president has made before stepping on the plane which will take him to paris or there he will be having talks directly with the u.s. president on sunday donald trump and said that he intends to take a severe opinion on the whole matter what that amounts to remains to be seen but it's very clear here in the way the turkish president has laid things out but he's adamant he wants to see justice he wants to see more pressure exerted on saudi
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arabia by the united states he said tax cut to go a clean that these tapes which record the events that happened on october the second in the saudi consulate the murder of jamal khashoggi these tapes have been listened to by saudi arabia by the united states by germany france and the u.k. he said all the major players had been informed of exactly what took place in the building now he wants to see results and that's what his mission is about he has said that the saudis know know full well who killed. in the fifteen people who are here the list of fifteen people who all the evidence that he possesses that they have that evidence they want to hear from saudi arabia to actually cooperate with turkey to bring these men to justice and he wants he didn't say this in the statement but he wants that to be a trial held here in turkey thank you. but just as the pressure builds on the u.s.
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over its links with saudi arabia washington is to end some of its support for the saudi led war in yemen the u.s. tankers will soon stop their involvement in refueling fighter jets belonging to the saudi u.a.e. led coalition the us defense secretary james mattis says the decision was made in riyadh after he was consulted it comes before a potentially divisive votes in the u.s. congress should help next week bipartisan members of congress to threaten to take action to end u.s. assistance because of outrage over saudi involvement in the killing of jamal khashoggi. leaders from seventy countries have gathered in the french capital paris to mark the end of the first world war the us president is the latest leader to arrive he has met the french president emmanuel macron the two have been discussing the level of european funding for nato we're getting along from the standpoint of fairness and we want it to be fair we want to help europe but it has to be here with the british in the world's leading to the president here as it. says
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that the united states can only do so much. in here is to do is. to have the european security to be being assured just by the united states and we need to make big a burden sharing that's why i do believe that we need more european get to see these more european defense these frankton president mithra policies that are set up as dissolve the parliament and declared a snap election for january the fifth comes just hours after his party admitted it didn't have enough parliamentary support for its designated prime minister two big wildfires in the u.s. state of california have killed at least nine people and left thousands of others homeless five of those who died were found in cars in the northern town of paradise which has been completely destroyed meanwhile all residents of the seven beach city of malibu have been ordered to leave their homes. heavy rains have caused flash
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flooding across jordan leaving twelve people dead there tourists were forced to run for high ground in petra kingdoms ancient city and one of the most popular tourist destination. those are your headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after world war one through our obeid is i'll have more news for you on this channel in about twenty five minutes hopefully see them. world war one. above four years of bitter conflict. known as the
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great war. all the war to end all wars. its grim trains warfare. with europe the main feature of all. but this was a war fought on many fronts. so there's another story rarely told. of huge importance during the war. and of lost in significance. a story of troops who fault and died but who are often forgotten. and the outcome that shaped the middle east of today.
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this is gold more one through our of i. malick to rekey the chin is he a writer and broadcaster is taking is on a personal journey across a dozen countries. his grandfather's generation force in the war. so far he's explored how thousands of arabs were conscripted by the british and french colonial powers in north africa. and
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how arabs were forced to fight on both sides for the european allies and the central powers setting muslim against muslim. and the vital role played by arab troops in the ottoman army again literally. in this episode he looks at the roots of why the ultimate has joined the war at home. how the european powers viewed the ultimate empire as ripe for division and exploitation. and the suffering when the also man government of young turks cracked down on the arab provinces. and the little known story of a future zionist leader in the ultimate world. the bullish jewish students walked along here nineteen eleven his name david been guardian all would become the first prime minister of israel.
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cannot live there how to go after half a year live there. we must say to him you must bury him by the good it don't have a funny. horrible irony of the way i want to follow do it or. i'll be right there as he ought to be another one of the as silent. without her judgment and. bitterness with their edges monarchial in so cal. is it because. i let the kind of that even when i do. have the ability one at the about how the hell beat out in a courage when he derek a spotted been nabbed as mike to saudi how dare. you have that whether you don.
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how they have how to land at their own afi how are german name than a poor new mayor the color and if the how do you. a very good question and one with roots deep in autumn in history. before reading thirty the ottoman empire stretched from mesopotamia in the east to the red sea and most of the north african coast. but over the next eighty or so here's the ultimate lost all cheerier june is here egypt and in one thousand nine hundred twelve libya. then they lost territories much closer to home and the balkan wars of nine hundred twelve and nine hundred thirteen. so britain france and russia began plotting how to exploit the potential collapse of salt on our docket needs empire for their own individual benefit. turn up to have made the second will rule the empire from eight hundred
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seventy six to nine thousand or eight or nine thousand or nine felt that western european powers were playing dirty games. in his mind and in the minds of the advisers around him and many ottoman ops are mere appeal powers were supporting nationalist independence movement within the ottoman empire he thought that the great powers were using religion especially christianity to mobilize those nationalist movement in an effort to undermine the ottoman empire. the sultan's view was not wrong. the european powers so on rest in the arab world after nearly four hundred years of ultimate rule as an opportunity. but there was a stumbling block provincial arab leaders and intellectuals were thinking about gaining independence from the ultimate. but for ordinary arabs the sultan is. well
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was the kaleb of islam the leader of the muslim world. whichever side you were on there was a close bond with the calle of respect and loyalty for him across the arab world. and incident later in the war illustrated this clearly. the british captured seven hundred iraqi soldiers in one thousand nine hundred seventeen and sent them to egypt. the british offer to free the person as if they would support an arab revolt against the ultimate led by saudi for saying of mecca but few iraqis accepted most were uneasy at the idea of challenging the kale of. books such as the one thousand nine hundred thirty eight work by george antonius the arab revolt exaggerated the support of hussein's one thousand nine hundred sixteen report against the ottomans and exaggerated and painted a very next.

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