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workers i hope people soon begin to produce rather than looking for their own interests or waiting for aid boxes. some say nothing much has changed for them after reisa left. well yes i still work a lot even sometimes until one am to earn my living and surviving not enough but i can't beg for money i have children to feed despite the services provided and a relatively secure environment and so to to continue to do many of them wish to go back to their homes and i'm hoping and expect a turkish led military offensive east of the fifty's river may make that dream become reality seen and to salute al-jazeera northern syria a palestinian protester has been shot dead by the israeli army in gaza it happened as hundreds of people rallied at friday demonstrations by the border fence between gaza and israel protesters have been out every week since march demanding palestinians be given the right to return to their ancestral lands which are
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controlled by israel the israeli army has killed more than two hundred people and at least eighteen thousand have been injured since march. still ahead right here on al-jazeera hundreds of thousands of civil servants are going without pay in what could become the longest partial government shutdown in u.s. history migration and the rights of british and e.u. citizens after breakfast at the british parliament continues the debate ahead of next week's crucial vote. hello again a welcome back we're here cross the western part of the levant we have seen quite a bit of snow and rain over the last couple of days things are looking much better but i want to show you some images that have come out of parts of lebanon expression the higher elevations look at all the snow that has accumulated across this area now the still going to be dealing with the snow but there is going to be
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some rain coming into the forecast over the next few days but look how high the snow banks are this could turn very messy as the rain comes into play saturday really not looking too bad here across much of the region but we are going to be watching that weather system coming out of the mediterranean and there is the rain by the time we get to sunday no snow and that's going to cause quite a bit of a mess if those temperatures do go down below freezing which they may in the overnight hours that could turn icy for many locations well here across the gulf we are looking at clouds across much of the area particular up here towards the north and that is going to be we are going to be seeing a mostly cloudy day overcast day for many locations here for so for doha twenty two degrees here on saturday going to bout twenty three maybe a little bit more of a break in the clouds as we go towards sunday afternoon and then very quickly across parts of madagascar mozambique very heavy rain shows had been the trend over the last few days we are seeing those coastal showers continue across most of the area but down towards cape town it is going to be partly cloudy with a temp few of nineteen.
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hello again the top stories on al-jazeera the head of the un's mission in the democratic republic of congo is warning of more violence while a dispute over the presidential election results continues the losing candidate martin says he won sixty percent of the vote this contradicts the official tally which crowned his rival felix just the way. the u.s. military says it started to pull out equipment from syria but commanders aren't giving details on when troops will go home the operations underway three weeks old donald trump surprise announcement off the withdrawal. a palestinian has been shot dead by the israeli army in gaza it happened during friday's demonstrations by the border fence between gaza and israel is really army has killed more than two hundred people and police eighteen thousand have been injured since march. security forces in sudan have used tear gas to disperse hundreds of anti-government protesters demonstrations have taken place in the capital hard to the second
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biggest city and even a hospital has come under fire the protesters are calling for the resignation of the longtime president obama and bashir who is rejecting the demand morgan reports from hard to. friday's prayers in sudan ended with calls for more protests demanding the resignation of president obama to be here and the calls were heeded in several cities security forces again fired tear gas at some protestors even hospitals have been in the firing line in what amnesty international is describing as an outrageous violation of international law security forces time to hospital on wednesday they were looking for protesters injured during anti-government demonstrations in the man sudan second largest city bullets and tear gas were fired at patients and doctors they've walked out on strike in protest the sudanese government says it's investigating what happened. to forces actually follow the protesters inside the hospital. and they used
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as a live a mission. horrible situation even though from the. situation that i can hold with all that's considered a war crime when's this protest in and demand were reported to be the largest in three weeks of demonstrations against the twenty nine year rule of president obama to be sheer police and security forces have responded with force at least three people were killed on wednesday rights groups say the number killed since protests began is at least forty the government says the total is twenty two presidents are going to shoot since defined as his party threatens to use force against those protesting his rule you know this is work give us a week let's see who would dare challenge just one week we don't want people without permits protesting those protesting and especially those who are who will cut off their heads. the protesters accuse president bashir of missed my. kaname ignoring corruption and causing the world's second highest inflation rate because iran's wave of anti-government protests is regarded as the biggest challenge to
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president bashir since he came to power in one thousand eighty nine some opposition groups have lend their support to those them bending his head down calls for his resignation continue with more protests planned into the week all triggered by the country's economic crisis queues for bread are common the price of a loaf tripled recently the ruling party says it wants bashir who remains wanted by the international criminal court for work crimes to be reelected next year protesters seem determined to prevent that with the strongest challenge to his leadership people morgan are just zero hot on hundreds of thousands of federal employees in the u.s. should have received their paychecks on friday but their wages have been blocked by a political fight over funding involving president trump's demand for a border wall and close to washington d.c. as a state of maryland that's where more than twenty thousand federal workers have been affected and gallagher sent us this report from its largest city baltimore. this government building in the heart of downtown baltimore is normally
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a hive of activity its doors are now closed its workers furloughed and the impact on the streets close by is clear over the last few weeks mohammed has seen his business declined sharply. he tells us he leave the area if things don't return to normal soon if you see you know. like nothing here you know it's like you're only as good in the business. as the bin you know. darryl burton's been a federal employee for decades this isn't the first government shutdown he's lived through but the longer it lasts the harder it gets for his family for a drop of gas in the car today or do our way to the weekend do i do buy groceries today or from a way to enough going to be a long from things that can get a little bit cheaper in all twenty three thousand federal employees across maryland are either working without pay or of been furloughed it's one of the worst affected
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states and the impact is widely felt when this partial government shutdown ends there's a good chance that the eight hundred thousand federal workers will get back pay for those contracted by the government to rely on federal resources to provide services that can mean the difference between life and death the future is less certain nevertheless we've met people here so committed to what they do that continuing to work not knowing where their next paycheck will come from native american lifelines receives federal funding from a now closed government department staff to provide support for addiction mental health and vital medical services not that i can save everyone but at least being here they know that they have a home and a safe place to be and we won't be able to pry that. you know worries. if there is no resolution by saturday this will be the longest government shutdown in u.s. history it's a prospect that many here and across the u.s. consul for to face. sabrina and he's joining us from baltimore any movement on the
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shutdown and. what we're just hearing within the last few minutes of the house has now passed a bill that would mean federal workers will get back pay when this partial government closure is finally over that bill will now go to the president's desk you can think that he will sign this given that he's indicated that he has sympathy for what these people are going through but it's a bitterly cold day here in baltimore and a bitterly cold reality for those more than twenty thousand workers in in this state that are getting no paycheck today that means very tough choices for those people but if the president does sign that bill that is at least good news for them but i think it's an important point to make that it's the contracted workers in this case and those who rely on federal workers to make their living think about people cleaning bathrooms in airports people driving cabs people running restaurants and food businesses close to federal buildings that won't get any pay they are suffering the longer this goes on and even the federal workers that we've
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spoken to say they are making very very tough choices at the moment i read one report from a charity that says most of us are about two paychecks away from being homeless so the longer this thing drags on the harder those choices get not only for federal workers with their faith and for their families as well and all the people that run businesses related to and fully dependent on these government services and when you speak to those people suffering the effects of the shutdown and who do they tell you they blame for this and do they feel like they're hong's in this political stalemate. well maryland is a fairly blue democratic state it voted for hillary clinton in twenty sixteen so not surprisingly people here blame president trump but overwhelmingly every single person we've spoken to does feel like an innocent pull on in the political game because all the rhetoric aside all the arguing between the president and the democratic party is over and done it's real people with real lives working for not
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much money that are suffering here and you've also got things like airports t.s.a. workers who are the people that secure people getting on terra planes are not turning up terminals are closing down at various different airports air traffic controllers are also working without pay and they say the longer this goes on the more dangerous flying in this country will be we're now heading in by saturday into the longest consecutive government shutdown this country has ever seen in the longer that goes on the more desperate these situations get the unsafe or it gets for various people around the country so people just want to see this ending overwhelmingly everyone told us that message to politicians is get together and sort this out all right andy gallagher thank you of protesters are accusing bangladeshi police of using life fire against them garment workers have been rallying for a several days demanding better salaries a minimum wage was set by the government last year but many say it's not being
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enforced at least one person has been killed and dozens injured since the rallies began on sunday high court judges in me and more have rejected an appeal by two reuters journalists serving seven year prison sentences while onan child so were convicted of breaking the official secrets act by reporting on army massacre of orange of villagers the reporters say they were framed by police who gave them classified documents scott heiler has an update from bangkok. the high court in yangon announced that it had rejected this appeal in the afternoon on friday they said that there was not enough evidence that these two gentlemen were innocent so they were saying that the conviction was upheld and also is when it comes to how long they would spend behind bars they were sentenced to seven years back in september there was a possibility with the appeal that that sense could be reduced but the court's on friday the high court in yangon saying that there was a suitable punishment of seven years because of the severity of what this case was
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about that it threatens to harm national security so these gentlemen for now will stay behind bars according to the high court in yangon for seven years now very soon after the word came out about this on friday the editor in chief of reuters made a statement today's ruling is yet another in justice among many inflicted upon why lone and. they remain behind bars for one reason those in power sought to silence the truth reporting is not a crime and until meehan maher writes this terrible wrong the press would mean mars not free and the inmarsat commitment to rule of law and democracy remains in doubt now for the future what could happen to these two journalists now that their appeal has been rejected the defense can appeal to the supreme court in myanmar's capital neighborhood or there's no indication or word that they will do that yet and then the only other option for them is if unsung suchi the state council or the leader of myanmar issues a pardon but again there's no word if that's going to happen either the european
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union president john called you and chris has a no deal breck's it would be a catastrophe and that he's in constant contact with the u.k. to try to prevent that happening british m.p.'s are debating prime minister to resign may's deal ahead if a crucial vote next week the government's already indicated it wants to reduce european immigration by eighty percent when it leaves the law lawrence the reports from london. remember this it was one of the reasons leave one in the backseat referendum take back all the money the u.k. gives to the european union and spend it on the british health service instead it proved a very powerful message but how to square that with alice sounds or a story by the time he'd left italy for london he had a master's degree and four years specialist experience in mental health this is starting salary in britain was around twenty five thousand dollars a year under the government's proposals he would never have been allowed into the u.k. because that salary would be too low for him to get to work permits to brick says i
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know who is going to pay for the visa for working visa in the future for obviously a lot of people that. don't apply. meanwhile even in this period of the thirty nine on the nurses. day they will find out before for example in the u.k. rather than. through your struggle as it stands there are one hundred thousand unfilled roles in the british oil service and dire warnings about on the looming crisis as european nationals leave the country the royal college of nursing is so worried it says join the campaign for a second referendum calling for a rethink about leaving the school there's something quite challenging about thinking that highly skilled always means highly and what we need to do is really think about in the public sector what is the value that people bring in the eyes
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a minute. it's often in terms of the skills that i have so i think we need to think differently what's happening in the health service reflects a bigger question is immigration really the problem it's a say sees there are two entirely conflicting narratives at play in the u.k. at the moment the government's arguing that there is far too much european migrant labor and is taking away jobs from british people but at the same time the government congratulates itself. having read called low unemployment it does rather raise the question if the government does what it says it to and reduce european immigration by eighty percent and who exactly is going to do all the work there is an argument in cabinet between people who really care far more about restricting immigration than about the u.k. economy led by the prime minister the rest of the cabinet and of course the business community who want to make preserving the interest of the u.k. economy a priority and that hasn't been resolved like the u.k.
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was at breaking points because of uncontrolled immigration politicians are now presented with a chance of reducing use in the old asleep if that happens the country will find out what the migrants such a problem to rule lawrence lee al-jazeera london. well china is shedding light on what the dark side of the moon looks like with the first ever photos from the far side of the lunar surface the change for probe made the world's first successful landing there earlier this month the moon's mission considered an important step towards china becoming a major space power by twenty thirty. hello again the headlines on al-jazeera the head of the un's mission in the democratic republic of congo is warning of more violence while a dispute over presidential election results continues the losing candidate martin
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says he wants sixty percent of the vote citing figures from the catholic church observers this contradicts the official tally which crowned his rival she looks just ahead is the winner who is planning to challenge the results in courts. the u.s. military says it's begun pulling out of syria a coalition spokesman refused to unveil any further details such as their location nor a timeline for the two thousand soldiers withdrawal secretary of state is in the region to reassure allies following donald trump surprise announcement more than three weeks ago he says the decision hinder the ongoing fight against eisel a palestinian protesters has been shot dead by the israeli army in gaza it happened as hundreds of people rallied at friday demonstrations by the border fence between gaza and israel israeli army has killed more than two hundred people and at least eighteen thousand have been injured since march the u.s. house of representatives has voted to provide back pay to federal employees once the partial government shutdown ends hundreds of thousands of federal employees in
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the u.s. should have received their wages on friday but their salaries have been blocked by a political fight over funding involving president trying to demand for border wall high court judges that have rejected an appeal by two reuters journalists serving seven years prison sentences. were convicted of breaking the official secrets act by reporting an army massacre of villagers the reporters say they were framed by police who gave them classified documents. today's ruling is yet another injustice among many inflicted upon while. they remain behind bars for one reason those in power sought to silence the truth reporting is not a crime and until me and maher writes this terrible wrong the press had me on mars not free and the commitment to rule of law and democracy remains in doubt in china and the dark side of the moon looks like the first ever photos from the far side of
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the lunar surface that changed the world's first successful landing there earlier this month the moon missions considered an important step towards china becoming a major space power by twenty thirty inside stories coming up next. remembering jamal khashoggi a hundred days after his marriage to turkey wants a saudi suspects to stand trial in istanbul will justice seven be served all the diplomatic and trade links overall human rights principles this is inside story.
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would . get. hello and welcome to the program i'm fully back to full one hundred days since the murder of jamal khashoggi friends politicians and human rights activists have all been honoring the saudi journalist they organize a vigil at the saudi consulate in istanbul where he was killed three months ago and a memorial service was held in the u.s. congress in washington some members are pressuring president trump to revaluate relations with saudi arabia and its crown prince mohammed bin solomon who is widely suspected of ordering the killing if we decide that commercial interest should override the statements that we make in the actions that we take then we must admit that we have lost all moral authority to
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talk about any atrocities anywhere any time we must carry a mission to defend the free press our strongest bulwark against injustice and friends and former colleagues of jamal khashoggi a stepping up their demands for justice the story is not just about the murder of one innocent journalist drawls killing is part of an escalating attack against press freedom that's being waged by tyrants around the world. and that's why we can't just let your mall story fade away his assassination in many ways i believe is a red line it's a threshold where those who believe in human rights and those who believe in free speech must stand firm against those who would callously snuff them out while let's look back at the main events in the murder investigation ha shoji was killed in the saudi consulate in istanbul on october the second eight days later
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a technician vesa gate is identified nineteen saudi suspects they included a so-called hit squad the tech to say the fifteen man team killed her shoji and dismembered his body in november the u.s. treasury impose sanctions on seventeen saudis among them the royal court advise a tiny a few days later a us media reported the cia's conclusion that the saudi crown prince ordered the killing president donald trump defended mohammed bin salman saying we may never know all of the facts the u.s. senate passed a resolution last month holding mohammed been someone responsible songe arabia said it put eleven suspects on trial last week but didn't name them techies latest say the culprits should stand trial in istanbul and if the saudis refused to hand them over they'll be tried in absentia. well let's bring in our panel now from istanbul matthew brize
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a senior fellow at the atlantic council a former u.s. ambassador to azerbaijan and former white house official in beirut we have rami kouri professor of journalism at the american university of beirut and nonresident senior fellow at harvard university and from cornwall in the u.k. on skype david haye a human rights lawyer and co-founder of the legal consultancy sterling hay and detained international welcome to you all thank you for being on inside story ronnie corey. was your friend has anything positive come about in the last one hundred days that make you hopeful that justice will be set for tomorrow i would say yes there are some hopeful signs as well as some negative ones the most interesting i think and significant thing is the incredible bread depths and continuity of serious international concern about what happened to her about the behavior of the so the government the apparent connections with the crown prince
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his office clearly him possibly and the lying that the saudis did for a month or two about this the cover up of these things have generated tremendous pushback internationally in the media and civil society some businesses and government actions in some cases postponing weapons deals and things like that so the intrusion into the governance system and the actions of the saudi government at the highest level of the crown prince levy of the crown prince effectively runs the country at the very highest level this intrusion is unprecedented it's continuing and it's going to probably get more intense when the american congress fully expresses itself with legislation in the coming weeks probably matthew bryza in istanbul your thoughts has anything concrete been done to bring justice to this gruesome murder. well nothing in the sense of a legal case that's seen the light of day in actual prosecution that's true one
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step that could be taken would be to renew calls for an international investigation an international tribunal to try those the perpetrators of this murder but the political winds have shifted i think quite dramatically in washington again that's not bringing justice to to the murderer murderers but that is changing the climate dramatically we've already seen in the u.s. senate a bipartisan vote fifty six to forty one condemning the murder and been solomon crown prince. and i think what we've seen a precipitous drop in foreign direct investment into saudi arabia since. death so there are consequences but still not justice you say the political winds have shifted matthew but my compare the u.s. secretary of state delivered a speech in cairo on u.s. foreign policy on thursday with zero mention of jamal khashoggi the u.s. senate as you say pass a resolution holding the conference responsible and yet we have seen nothing else
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since so do you expect any further action from the white house or from congress i don't expect anything from the white house i expect the white house to resist this tooth and nail and try to sweep it all under the rug which is essentially what secretary pompei owes a speech in cairo tried to do but at the same time i definitely expect more action in congress as i said a moment ago that resolution enjoyed bipartisan support many republicans president trumps closest ally in the senate lindsey graham has been one of the most outspoken critics of muhammad been silent for many things especially the murder of jamal so i think we'll see the house of representatives vote on that resolution in fact that was passed by the senate now that the democrats have taken over and i i think we may see further steps beyond what the congress voted in december two. to stop us aid deliveries for the war in yemen we made a we made our stop u.s. action in yemen sorry we may see an actual end of the weapons deliveries voted in
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by the congress right david haye in cornwall as matthew says ever growing calls for an international investigation this international in fact says the only thing that will guarantee justice is an international investigation under the auspices of the united nations what needs to happen for the u.s. to get involved is it just up to turkey or are other western countries also needing to be involved at the stage. and i mean i agree with that i think it's we only need to look at the fun of it phrases and even in international the game of thrones if you like of politics and commercial interests even in one country the us we see the president on one side the senate the cia on the other and when we then look at that and compare it to the legal side i agree that the united nations and some form of special tribunal involving turkey perhaps similar to the tribe you know used in lebanon is the way forward because clearly what is happening in saudi isn't hasn't
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been set up in accordance with international principles of justice and also when we look at turkey it's clear that saudi will not send the people to turkey so in terms of real justice for tomorrow holding court and hearing this in either country where the others are either never going to be extradited or on the present isn't going to get real justice so you believe that a trial in absentia that turkey is calling for right now is not going to achieve anything. well it will it will achieve no doubt convictions against the individuals but the individuals who are main insanity now that you may be able to have you know who holds on that travel but if they don't intend to travel what justice is that to jim out let's bring back into the conversation rami on turkey's role here turkey many people will say has a responsibility to continue putting the pressure on the international community
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for justice to be achieved for jamal for jamal khashoggi what is turkey in the current geopolitical context still willing to put that pressure is turkey still willing to be at the forefront of the quest for justice for democracy. it's not clear if turkey is going to keep the pressure up and if it's gonna keep demanding justice for. or if it's going to make deals with the united states and the saudis and others for things like containment of the kurdish militias or other issues but turkey is not on trial here the saudi killers and liars uncover uppers and assassins and butchers and body dissolving and acid there's those of the people who are on trial and this is really the central question that we have to keep our focus on and i would just add one point. the beginning you had a clip showing the people in the united states talking about press freedom and
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press freedom this is way beyond press freedom and jamal of knowledge of his life he was a journalist but this is about the dignity of four hundred million arab people men and women all over the arab world who simply want to live a decent normal dignified life not to be lied to and not to be threatened not to be curtailed in their human ambitions to live a normal decent life and the media is just one dimension of this and free expression but it goes way beyond that it's a question of decent citizenship in arab countries and this is a huge battle and one of the reasons the people are fighting back in saudi arabia and the emirates i'm behind in and egypt and other places in the arab world they're pushing back against this is because they don't want to have normal citizenship for their people they want to maintain an autocratic authoritarian system of rule there and they have a law allies and netanyahu and israel and trump and the united states so this is a battle that's going to go on for some time throughout the region in the world
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a battle that's going to go on for some time rami khouri says matthew what do you see a standing in the way of an international independent investigation. well the main thing is a lack of leadership by the executive branch of the united states government and i think meeting president trump himself he is never going to show that leadership obviously he's going to do everything ass he possibly can to as i said to to hide the facts he is at war with the free press he calls it fake news he despises the washington post where jamal had his column so you get no leadership out of the white house if the congress does what i was predicting it will do as i said before that will generate some momentum and perhaps then perhaps turkey will feel that it's got sufficient political cover to to take a risk of further antagonizing saudi arabia with which it has poor relations and as we just heard with which it is likely maybe to be able to do something for the
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united states quote unquote in terms of helping to contain iran and so i think turkey would probably be the most likely candidate to call for that investigation if there's some u.s. leadership that it need to ask them to say any of that turkey has been somewhat dialing back because of perhaps a deal made between trump and adeline what are your thoughts on this. yeah i see no evidence of that it's certainly possible i think equally plausible is that turkey has been president barack obama and his intelligence services and said are law enforcement agencies they've run out of salacious details i mean if it wasn't for the turkish government's leak of the details of this horrendous crime we probably still wouldn't know them so i think i've always been thinking at some point they run out of things to leak and then turkey's leverage is gone so i think now turkey has to decide does it want to try to recreate some more leverage by virtue of calling for this international tribunal david a just coming back to the legal
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aspect for a moment there's a trial that's underway in saudi arabia a saudi arabia said this week last week that eleven of the suspects were brought before a judge in the first criminal court of riyadh but none of the suspects were named very little detail of what was actually happening in that courtroom they say even anyone who believes that the saudis a serious about achieving justice. i think it's fairly clear in that the united nations already indicated that those hearings not been held in accordance with international principles and i think it's fairly clear that this is nothing more than a show trial. in a want to get it right bad p.r. stunt essentially to try and cover up what's happened and it's it's not going to work but that they are also going to pursue that they are actually going to one would imagine come to a conclusion that people are guilty of jamal's murder and they will then i would imagine trying to sweep that under the carpet you will then i imagine also then i
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have to keep pursuing action and the reality is we said earlier is that the the only body i believe that's able to actually have some effect will be some form a special tribunal set up with turkey and the u.n. and the international that the u.n. but i know as you know is also politicized to some extent i mean will a u.n. let investigation really bring the real perpetrator than those who ordered the crime to justice well that's the issue that i was going to raise with we were also looking at the individuals that carried out these unspeakable acts but it's also about the people that old at them now obviously took in the west is pointing at the crown prince did it go higher did it go to the king and if so how can we hold those people to account and bring to justice which amount is the u.n. able to do that it's a it's a it's a question which is very difficult to answer. rami khouri your thoughts on the un's role here will they be able to bring the perpetrators to justice if indeed this case was referred to the u.n. . experience shows that the u.n.
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can do nothing if one of the five members of the security council permanent members doesn't want it done in issues of veto it seems like the united states will under trump is going to continue opposing any serious international investigation into this murder unless something happens to change that trump position which is unlikely but we can't completely rule it out it's possible something might happen and and trump might realize that he just simply has to go along with an international investigation but i doubt that we're going to get anything out of the united nations it's interesting that the main sources of pressure on the saudis for the last hundred days have been a civil society the media all over the world and some political personalities individually rather than large political groupings with a couple of governments coming in here and there so i think we should expect that kind of diverse the fuse pressure to keep persisting and
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pressuring the saudis as much as possible matthew in istanbul is not just a key it's not it's just the u.s. even though the u.s. has a big role in this of course what about the rest of the international community western countries germany the u.k. ken can you know can we count on support from some of these countries or have trade and diplomatic relations basically overruled any human rights for instance the. i think we should be relying on them i think that going back to a comment about. about the arab world and its dignity this is an issue that transcends any geographic boundaries as i was saying about president trumps war on the free media this is about the fundamental values of all democracies anywhere on earth so where the japanese where the french where are the brits where the germans i mean they should i hope the dutch for example will all be. building momentum for a case like this to be to be taken to the united nations i don't think therefore
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that they're simply bought off by the commercial interests i mean that's part of what keeps them quiet of course but none of them i think are as certainly not as brazen in their comments and probably not in their thoughts as president trump was when he when he said openly that yeah we've got all these arms deals we have to worry about preserving and therefore we have to ignore our values i don't think that the leaders of western europe or of japan think in those terms so hopefully we'll see them become more vocal and yes they haven't been three months now over one hundred days and they haven't become more vocal how do you explain that romney . i explain it by saying that there are issues related to sovereignty and some cases that simply cannot be overcome the saudis are a sovereign country they do a lot of things that the world criticizes that i criticize them out criticised but they are in the end a sovereign country they can circle the wagons and refuse to deal with any of these
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external investigations as a lot of people in the world who think that the president of the united states is a dangerous person for the world on things like climate change and other issues and trade but they can't demand that the american president change his secretary of state or change his vice president so the sovereignty issue really comes into play here and this is an obstacle that the world has endured over the last forty fifty years in trying to push the arab countries towards more pluralistic tolerant and can a consultative and accountable governance systems and has had zero impact in doing this was only there but uprisings that pushed one country tunisia into a democratic transformation so this is a real problem you know if a country refuses to do something that is related to its internal behavior and this is what the saudis see this as then it's sometimes impossible to make them change
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unless intense pain can be brought to bear if the entire world the sit decides no longer to trade with saudi arabia which is not going to happen but something really intense or the saudi leadership wants to make official visits and the other countries say we refuse to meet with you unless you show us from have body. this unless something like that happens there may be a point at which the world can say look we can't do anymore david haye i mean there is some form of justice that has that has kicked off i mean at this trial in saudi arabia even if you know a lot of people are not hopeful about what it wanted a possible verdict also and turkey in absentia and. and what what else do you see happening here as far as justice is concerned like that i think i think the u.n. is is is perhaps the that the most favored option but as we've seen in in the case of it in argentina now crown prince travels widely and if trump and the un don't come to the right conclusions then there are ways and means in which you know using
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universal jurisdiction and various other aspects other countries can at the very least make it very difficult on the crown prince to travel. and and going forward and i think because it's a very interesting area to be in at the moment because as i said at the beginning you've got so many commercial interests and other vested interests. and they are also affecting the justice that to our c i matthew in istanbul istanbul is of course way this horrible crime was committed one hundred days on what would you say the dust has settled on this case. i don't think it's settled inside the turkish government based on the senior leaders i know but in a metaphorical sense unfortunately it has i mean there hasn't been much coverage about it not not even here on al-jazeera you guys really kept the flame alive longer than anybody. this one hundred days and every street helps but i'm afraid you're right
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that the dust has settled too to a certain degree notwithstanding the civil society activity that rami mentioned but i think i think we're in grave danger of that justice never being paid because there's not a strong power in the world right now you often played the role the play by the u.s. that's willing to get everybody organized and get pushing so i worry that this will fade away and you know what everybody considers justice who was listened to with the cia's conclusion is that there would be consequences personally for the crown prince whether it be a legal verdict or political pain or embarrassment or people who were dreaming that maybe he loses his crown prince status that's not going to happen i think how we define justice in this case it is importance of all of course we would like those full legal consequences and political consequences to be meted out rami who are in beirut on ask you give you the last word matthew says he worries that this will
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fade how do we keep the flame live how do we ensure that western governments are accountable and that there we ensure that they're not giving the green light for such an action to happen again. it's very hard to come up with a strategy to ensure that justice will be done but i think in this case we have a few pointers that we might look at for one thing so does society as a society that unlike all arab societies and most societies in the world but particularly the so it is they put a lot of importance on honor their national honor if the honor of saudi arabia is besieged vis bisbee smirched and and and hurt by constant international attention to what they have done a lot of saudis may feel intensely angry and humiliated by what's going on and possibly there may be internal pressure and so the raby the other thing is the
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international experience with the anti apartheid movement against south africa the international movement now for the b.d.s. legislation to protest the israeli colonization and policies if international intense pressure keeps building up building up building up it's possible that that also could at some point trigger a slow change within saudi arabia we're not going to see a fast change where the king suddenly changes the crown prince but you might see a whittling away of his powers possibly you might see other people starting to speak up and so dear abid the problem is they're all afraid they're all afraid of being chopped up with a with a bone saw and having their body parts dissolved and acid as happened to her children so perhaps some television station around the world or some civil society group will do a simulation of what happens when you chop up a body and put it in acid and of course just a real simulation not the real thing and this would have been great great anger to so does and shame to a lot of so it is an lot of muslims and arabs around the world and this something
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things like that possibly might come up one day and creates a shock and that is herm's at the trial and don't forget about jamal khashoggi thank you so much gentlemen for a very interesting discussion matthew bryza rami koori and david haye and thank you as well for watching you can always watch this program again. any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page at facebook dot com for inside story you can of course also join the conversation on twitter the handle is that inside story for me for me back to one whole t.v. here in doha thank you for watching by for now to. the.
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you're watching the news hour live from the headquarters. for the next sixty minutes the runner up in the democratic republic of congo's presidential election is challenging the results in court. after weeks of. the u.s. military. polling out from syria. to disperse protesters thousands take to the streets calling for president obama to step down. hundreds of thousands of federal employees are empty. as a partial government shutdown heads into a four three. thirty one year old. career.
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hello the runner up in the democratic. presidential election is filing a court challenge against the results on saturday martin says he won sixty percent of the vote citing figures from catholic church observers this contradicts the official tally which crowned his rival felix just as the winner a catholic bishop has been echoing few of those concerns speaking via video link to the un security council. we call for the solidarity of the nice dacian to the people of the d r c we call the electoral commission to publish as quickly as possible the records of the counting. polling stations were to allow candidates to compare data and statistics that they themselves compiled with the official numbers this might spell down among the population as to the outcome and may set minds at rest. joining us from kinshasa so as we were saying saying that he is the winner
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and he will be filing a legal challenge. well according to his own tele in the tally up the catholic church he thinks he won this election he not have to be in the evidence and show how he came up with the numbers how does he plan to do this he's going to court on saturday was just findings to a group of judges of the constitutional court they will be going through this evidence that he feels he has to face they will decide that he has no case they could throw it out which means that they will if. they can be as president elect and he will be sworn in on january eighteenth and what is the mood like on the streets how fragile is the security situation. well that's it's. really is a waiting game people waiting to see what plays out in the courts some people are hopeful they hope that perhaps if they had no no major content and things you mains relatively peaceful then maybe this could signal
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a democratic transfer of power for the first time in the congo since independence from belgium in one nine hundred sixty but you know a big deal to many people yes who've only known a lot of conflicts considered to be elections and coups but of course some people are concerned that it mustn't play usually isn't happy with the outcome of a court could he called his supporters to come out onto the streets and you could see by them protests and here in this country when that sometimes happens the police used live ammunition to discipline supposed to give them some people had been killed so a lot of things at stake here but of course all eyes on that court how independent would be judges be and what the outcome will mohsin for you to accept it and we know that the influential council of churches definitely been weighing in on the situation denouncing the results in fact so do we expect the church to weigh in further or take any concrete steps. they probably will one day a day of church a lot of people here go to church the catholic are a huge number here in the the bishops and the priest quite vocal when it comes to
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politics they have huge influence in the other parts of africa as well a lot of people do listen to what they have to say so i expect them to talk more about it to talk more about the court case maybe try to tell people to remain calm try to take to the streets and be violent but of course all of the came and angry people are and what political leaders say to the third quarter which is very very important if people call for calm which many of them are doing right now things could remain relatively calm but of course the biggest fear is if people are really angry once the court decision is made will they take the streets and could they be violent all right so herman tussle with the update from catch us a thank you for the head of the u.n. mission in the democratic republic of congo has been briefing the security council on the situation and she warned of growing violence in response to the dispute over the results. why the results were greeted by sea by scenes of joy in some u.n.
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sea and you yes strongholds many lemon chris of porters receive the jews with a sense of disbelief regressively serious security incident where noted in several locations most concerning lee in greeley who drove vans violent protests have reportedly left at least twelve dead including two national police. and then civilian killed by live ammunition as well as significant public property damaged and there they are says a basset or to the u.n. warned the international community not to interfere in the electoral process. d.-r. see as is the case with any sovereign state one has established institutions under the constitution to settle disputes. a number among you have advised they be tapped
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into that being said it is perhaps not wise for the international community in the place of the d r c to set out demands that may lead to doe's institutions being supplanted. it is important for us to urge partners and friendly countries not to add fuel to the fire with these results as let's speak to congolese activist and community organizer fred brahma who is joining us from the united nations thanks for speaking to us on al-jazeera so we were listening to the or to the u.n. warning the international community not to interfere in the electoral process but to what extent can international pressure actually help the situation. i think the international community should. advocate for truth troof in this electoral process we have seen many many of many millions of callers people were mobilized to go for this election which wasn't going to as easily many of us lost
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their lives. and look at him for these elections it is important that international community. give a strong voice for the goal is government to respect the troof of the result of these elections and to what days we know as google is serious society there is out that has been published doesn't reflect what is the truth of this of this election and we huge international community to stand together we've call is people to call on this in the coalition government and the guts of the church to say a word is the real truth of this relation and still on the issue of the international community is the foreign leaders at the beginning had reacted cautiously to the outcome of the presidential election they appealed for the disputes to be settled peacefully taking somewhat of
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a cautious tone but france came out much stronger not surprisingly and challenge the official results so do you expect the u.n. to be able to speak with one voice when it comes to the elections in the r.c. . you repeat the question please do you expect the international community and the united nations members to be able to speak with one voice. i i think the international community and of the moscow monday it's sure that speak with one voice and speak strongly we regret that. is not playing that role so far. has been very silent when it comes to defend the transparency of this electoral process and we fear that the united nation won't be able to speak only for the truth but i think the united nations should and must stand for the
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values that the u.n. is promoting and that is democracy and freedom and. free and fair elections in mt among many others so the u.n. as u.n. has a live range and and opportunity to stand on the right side and they should use all the means that they have to make sure what is the truth of this election is known and defend why do you think will happen when martin for you will actually lodge is that legal challenge in court and do you believe that a peaceful democratic transition of power is still possible in that the r.c. . i think there can be only peaceful transition if the result is respected i respected. if not there won't be it turns ition i think we cannot call it transition since it's just. the regime that's
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that stays. but they just change the person at the top and replace him but someone who is looking like more or less like a puppet that is call it what it is. without respecting the result the truth of this process it can't be peaceful transition it should be stagnation it should be any fingers but is not a democratic transition and i think in other to to promote peace and stability we have to respect what is de would has been the choice of the congolese people and the seine must provide all the details of the results or to a low people to compare what we saw in in the polling station and what they have published without that i fear that they will they may not be any sort of peaceful transition all right fred thank you very much for joining us from the united
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nations. now the u.s. military says it's begun pulling equipment out of syria a coalition spokesman refused to unveil any further details nor is there a timeline for the withdrawal of two thousand soldiers secretary of state my home pale is in the region to reassure allies following donald trump surprise announcement more than three weeks ago he says the pullout won't hinder the ongoing fight against eisold so pump aoe is now in the united arab emirates as part of his six nation tour of the region the u.a.e. is one of four arab nations imposing a blockade on cats are both are america's close allies in its fight against armed groups then there is iran the u.a.e. along with saudi arabia considers to her as a regional rival curbing iran's influence in the region has been a top priority for donald trump's administration in yemen the u.a.e. is backing several pro-government armed groups and is part of the saudi coalition fighting against filthy rebels president trump is facing significant pressure from
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congress to end u.s. support for the coalition let's cross to roslyn jordan joining us from washington we'll talk about pompei a trip in a moment rosalind but first a.


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