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cost on al-jazeera. going to use in the world walled room would move the. fight took to muscatine mohammed served as malaysia's prime minister for 22 years from 1901 to 2003 but the 94 year old veteran politician return to politics a few years back to oppose the political force he was once paul told about his son national coalition which should prove malaysia since its independence from britain in 1987. during mahomet's 1st 10 years malaysia's prime minister the country experienced appeared to reputable nice asian and economic growth for the country's diverse population millions of muslims hindus buddhists and christians living side by side. his life achievements were recognised the opening session of doha for 29000. during his acceptance speech he did not hold back from expressing his views
on the modern world today's world is confronted we think these concerns over dissent been able to be of google economy growth indefeasible writing for nature on political social and environmental challenges. in southeast asia then can be decided to work as a group than it is to believe in and process that it be talked about it here also discuss the state of the global economy and its interconnectedness we don't believe in airplane sanctions to force guns. these do accept certain a good deal the good and the change of government it is not only their particular country. but all the partners also we will. economy in a we it is
a form of dictatorship addicted to cheap that is worse than that in that can be easy international. before the world leaders attending the ceremony he also talked about his country's foreign policy. he said friendly countries. we want to be friends with everyone and the me of than. one albeit exception. our population is too small to provide a good market we need the global market here and many other laws a big market in the us saying if you need to play against it and. not support the imposition of the e.u. need a letter of st in by the us again. what is the malaysian prime minister going to step down in 2020 and who would he endorsed to be his successor these are some of
the questions malaysia's prime minister dr mahathir mohamad in this special edition talked about is here to do her for 29 t. . imes tammy's aid and senior presenter from al-jazeera international it's my absolute pleasure to be here with you today my pleasure to be here as well with his excellency told dr mahathir mohamad the prime minister of malaysia where as we begin an interview thank you very much for talking to our desire 1st of all a pleasure to be here with you. you've accepted now this a chief meant to. ward and i want to delve back into some of the highlights in your career you were nicknamed bump up hammer down and for those who are not familiar with that means the father of modernization it's in reference of course to the dramatic transformation that took place in your country while you were prime
minister i want to know though how you see yourself do you think malaysia could have made that a chief of men and that transformation without you well in order to country to develop our country the 1st need is for stability i was a multi-racial nation and normally monthly regime knishes and not stable so the 1st job that i had to do was to make sure that all the different pieces work together for the country then of course that means of course that on the different races are represented in the government and they can speak for their own arrays and also for the nation and because everybody has a fair share in the governance of the country they feel said that their problems will be taken gail and that leads to is to be where development becomes
possible but many countries have tried that approach malaysia has been more successful than some just to give an example malaysia's g.d.p. upon independence was comparable to ghana for example but today it's around 6 times higher surely they have been are the secrets to this success. well the secret is that when you please as a leader in it and he you must have some ideas you might have some ideas glean be thrown watching what happens in other countries in the case so we decided that is it a little u.s. we should look east because in the east we found countries like japan korea and the like and these seem to have been able to overcome their difficulties and develop their country. east become similes in policy and that has contributed much
the was over development one of the things your renowned for is a crucial decision you made during the 997 asian crisis not to follow the i.m.f. prescriptions and it turned out well for malaysia in the end malaysia transition that crisis quicker than some of the other countries that did follow the international advice i want to know what made you decide to take a bold decision and and break ranks with others. well for a year i watched the country's currency being devalued and and then as very poor we thought of all kinds of solutions but not being finance here not being an economy is. greed. does not prevent me from this group not prevent me from accepting ridiculous ideas or ideas that are not
common did you ever have any doubts i must have been a difficult decision to make while you was afraid to be in decision that me the wargames of all. but i thought that you would work then well we had to take the rich an we plunged into the sea and fortunately for us. from depreciate the because we read and from then then on was malaysia recovered do you think the i.m.f. still continues to give sometimes the wrong advice to countries well there may have eventually agreed that what i did was right and i hope that there will not be. conventional as to always recommend the normal thing in the or. the expected thing. how was your time in
politics changed you not just as a politician but as a human being will be said to resign i've been in corrupt government for 22 years thinking their young people should take over and i went to retire rarely but after some time lots of people came and asked me please do something about what's happening in the country and eventually i had to do something and then it was coming back. the head of state once told me that no matter how principled you start out in politics at some point you are going to have to as he put it down so with the devil to agree with that how have you ever had to make decisions which haven't sat 100 percent comfortably with your conscience well when you are ignorant but the normal things they can do to be
abnormal things in them so of course i get frightened with my own decisions but you had that out something in order to solve any should it seems not being soft through conventional means so you never had to make decisions that you i mean do you have any regrets you do feel like this something you would have done differently were there things that i feel because during my time i mean this is. the wish i had thought would solve the problem by and then they have found that it was not effective. what achievement are you most proud of and what would you consider to be that biggest mistake well in our country that the major research but they are not developing equally.
in. they. search for wealth sample and i thought that the problem of. of culture of value system so i tried to change their belief system of the ethnic group which are behind but i feel in that effort. looking forward to the k.l. summit the kuala lumpur summit you're the chairman of it. what must the k.l. summit achieve in december 2019 in order for it to be a success i have been watching the developments in the muslim world almost all muslim countries are not considered as developed not a single one and then we see a lot of. troubles in many muslim countries we.
are fairly fairly years of governance and also there been fighting each other and there have been people from mostly in countries have run away from their own countries to seek security in other countries so these are major problems and many of them have been expelled from their country around it and thought keely and. these are the problems we really have to understand why is it happening and if we know why maybe we can find some solution for solutions of the nature you're talking about when it comes to uneven development one would have to look deeper into some of the countries you are referring to which according to international statistics are report indicating a level of mismanagement lack of democracy. uneven access to
resources can there really be a renaissance can you even a address that properly in a summit without tackling some of these issues. well in the 1st place we need to understand the problem we need to see the background of the problem do you think the leaders of the muslim world understand that problem do you think the leaders of some of those countries who are attending the kale summit truly understand the problem the i've talked with them personally. when i met them and this seemed they have the same concern as as many other muslim leaders and i think this is above time we see down seriously to look at this problem and to find solutions do you think the launch of the kale summit in itself is an indication of the failure of other initiatives like the oh i see. and well there will be grouping of $52.00 countries. when we have too many
people the finally some consensus becomes very difficult but we through only 5 countries is much easier to think you'll be more effective. you've also commented on some of the global trends going on in the world today i wonder if i can get you to talk a little bit more about them specifically about the issue of trade wars which you mentioned do you think the u.s. and china have been too rigid in how they've approached trade issues well 3 wars do not solve anything the only and they can last people and other people not to believe that the war. so i think all freaks or all conflicts within nishan should be said through new good season arbitration or a court of law that is how malicious of a. problem or. indeed the neighbors but are they failing in that regard the u.s.
and china are they being too rigid in their stances they're taking right now but there is too much politics involved not the economy sensing if you follow the economy rules i am not in economies. perhaps you can solve the problem in much better we then confront the asian and claim to. destroy each other. right and you also mentioned multilateralism and the rise of the right are you comfortable with the direction that the current us administration the trumpet ministration is leading the world in with regard to multilateral action . well see i. bet that what you do us doing is being now is the right thing. becoming very national nationalists is good but not at the expense of other people we believe that every country should
care itself but that being. needing to be protected or secure all that's not been confronting our this is better if we learn to work together in a multilateral world because wherever a big country does it he defects other countries. the poor countries so that is not a solution we were going along with it was month. but now nationalism still they affect many countries and the more right they did then they were left or even . as before you also mention sanctions on iran will you be rallying taking trying to take action to mitigate and counter the us unilateral u.s.
sanctions on iran. well our seas a very small economy by comparison to the u.s. we have it the surplus with the u.s. . obviously we don't like the idea of sanctions so what we can do is just to preach their values of. peaceful resolution to conflicts rather than confrontation sanctions and the like. you. you also mention the issue of retirement and for any leader no matter how great a round they've had in office one of the issues that comes up is when they will leave the political stage of what will happen next one of the questions that's burning right now in the malaysian media as being talked and discussed about a lot is whether 2020 will be the last year for dr mahathir mohamad as prime
minister of malaysia will it be. which probably. will 2020 be the year in which you decide to exit the office of prime minister. well we had a vision to become a fully developed country by the year 2020 unfortunately said step down the leadership took a different cause different policies and that caused the the target not to be achieved in 2020 so what we have said before is that we will still be trained by we have moved. a completion in the front 2022 within 20252030 days a new approach to solving our economy problem and this time around we want everybody to benefit and not any particular group only
so if i understand correctly you feel the need the country needs your leadership well beyond 2020. well i have promised that i would step down. resolve some more immediate problems that has been left by the previous government. will step down and their leadership do well and can the there's been a name by the coalition. talking about issues that need to be resolved can you say 2020 will be the year that the sedition law the security offenses act will be repealed some of the tools that were used by previous previous administration to suppress civil liberties of course the ruling coalition your ruling coalition. it campaigned on a platform to scrap some of these but there's been criticism that you haven't moved quick enough will 2020 be the year in which some of these tools will be repressed.
repealed rather. the problems were very be very serious you can only achieve success in our efforts to overcome the problems overnight it takes time we are given a cherry 5 years to accomplish this object object but in the 1st year when there are years now we have so many of the problem for example the huge boring by the previous government should make us a banker but we managed to overcome that because we managed the finances of the country much better than before we are also still very stable as a nation despite the fact that there is this sudden change of government we should limited for the past 60 years normally when they use it when he causes disruption
there would be demonstration industry there would be a demand even be violence but the militia this speech for under previous government the new government when off very smoothly which is something we didn't expect because we had never experienced changes of government so to that extent we have done fairly well i would claim but there are other areas were example we found that corruption was the one that brought down the previous government we have taken steps to send it to d. no one complains about corruption they meet complain about delays in making decisions and all that but the lease of course happens when the new government takes over and right your have made i think even your critics will agree that you've made a lot of progress but still specifically there are some issues can you give
a timeline for for scrapping some of those. law as i mentioned and for passing the bill called the independent police complaints and misconduct commission which the the opposition is pushing for can you say 20 twenties when you'll get civil liberties in order. there are some laws which need to be. revise or amend but some of these laws are there but they're. practically guaranteed by the. constitution of the country if we have to change the laws we need to get that comes to teaching of that and also. allowing us to do need or at least making changes that will enable us to change the laws but to change the constitution requires a 2 thirds majority our government has not got the 2 thirds majority we need to
depend upon to all position but position of course is not very forthcoming do you think the leader of the ruling coalition on whatever him is the best person to take over at some point would you endorse him. well i can't get into the what of who would be the best person to take over because i've had bad experience i have named my successes and when they took over to do different things do you have any regrets about i mean you've had a lot say off and on relationship with anwar ibrahim any regrets about how that has transpired over per the 4 course we were. and think mystique towards each other bad we realize that country's needs is more important than our will our personal feelings so we decided to forget the past and concentrate on developing
the country that is more important than our corals so i'm dr mahathir mohamad thank you very much for talking probably. after years of overgrazing the damage caused to the precious grasslands of chile is being reversed with one of the world's biggest ever conservation projects. they're pretty emblematic of the patagonians out if their plan to fall and their calm like this earnest then you know that the system is going back and that they feel no threat works and that's why you're on your rewilding patagonia on al-jazeera. december on al-jazeera as this year comes to an end we look ahead to 2020
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their stories. i still tomorrow a witness documentary on al-jazeera. centuries it was the remoteness of brazil's indigenous communities the protected them from the rapacious outside walls now is what shields those who are encroaching on protected indigenous territory starting fires and threatening the residents of the county when i had the 1st contact with the outside walls in 1978 and what i catch eager talking had native language translated for us into portuguese remembers it well she says they brought diseases that decimated her community but that me i kept playing and we had a lot of land and we lived peacefully now we live with fear that are very few firsts the invaders are coming closer it's difficult for us to gauge why a place so remote so tranquil should not so so much to the rest of the walls indigenous people who live here with realized it but now is the smoke fills the
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