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so after that we will start protecting people as this protection comes with these these these 2 jobs and it will help save lives and then once we've started. protected the most vulnerable it will help us all get back to normal and and. back to all the things that we love 3 of hong kong's best known pro-democracy activists have been sentenced to prison joshua one will spend around 13 months in jail an act this child was given 10 months for their role in last year's protests another activist ivan lamb was sentenced to 7 months. hundreds of people are protesting in thailand after the prime minister was acquitted of an ethics violation allowed to keep his job the former army chief is still in military housing despite resigning from his post 6 years ago. iran's top governing body has rejected new legislation which would have limited nuclear watchdog access access to
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iran's facilities the guardian council says the little would damage diplomatic efforts iranian parliament had passed a draft motion on tuesday the united nations says that it signed a deal with ethiopia's governments to get unrestricted humanitarian access to the to greater region the agreement will allow aid workers to access federally controlled areas well that a 1000000 people a sort of been displaced u.s. attorney general william boss says the justice department has not found voter fraud on a scale that could have changed the outcome of last month's presidential election his comments to the associated press contradict president donald trump's claims that the vote was raked you up to date those are the headlines will have more news fear an overseer of the inside story next.
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will india's protesting farmers forced the prime minister into a climbdown. is resisting calls to repeal reform rules. big corporations what are the political risks from this is inside still. welcome to the program and it's. more than 60 percent of india's population rely on agriculture for a living but farmers who've long been a crucial voting bloc often complain of being ignored and now they're worried they
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could be exploited by agriculture reforms passed in september the laws seek to loosen rules around the sale pricing and storage of farm produce farmers for the new free market system means they'll lose government backed minimum price guarantees they've tried to march on the capital new delhi but have been stopped by police using tear gas and batons now they're blocking main roads and plan to stay until their demands are met. a lot of us will double that we have enough to sillett east to cook and eat and arrange for our stay we only want the last to be rolled back and to go back home happy if it's not done the moon will continue to protest be it for 6 months or a year the guide again lead the way we always suspected the government's intention and always will because the government has become a slave of the corporations they want to turn us into their slaves as well well we want to government which is elected by the people and talks about the people the indian government says the reforms and necessary to boost production and bring in
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much needed private investment prime minister narendra modi has tried to assure farmers the laws won't harm their businesses that there is a lot your book had knocked out but i want to tell the citizens and families from the banks of the river ganges and the holy city of out an r.c. that we are working with intentions which a pure is the water of the river ganges and without any purpose of betrayal most of the farmers come from the states of punjab and haryana but are known as india's grain baskets many have camped out at the sink who border elizabeth around him has been to one of the protests in the capital new delhi. well despite farm union leaders attending talks with the government tens of thousands of promise remain on to keep highways blocking the road into the capitol region of delhi now from union leaders have told us that they're attending the talks but they're not hopeful of a breakthrough and that's because of prime minister narendra modi's comments that
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these laws are good for farmers that they're in the interest of farmers and fama say that that's what happened last time in the last round of talks in november that the government didn't listen that they want to write guarantees around a minimum price for they produce and to nor that is why they're protesting now and that's why they'll say they'll continue to do so until the government repeals these laws meanwhile the pharmacy have had some international support the 1st international comments about what's happening here from canadian prime minister justin trudeau who said that canada will always stand by the rights of people to peacefully protest to protest peacefully that's perhaps not surprising given canada has such a large population more than half a 1000000 people in canada are off panjabi descent many of these traumas are from punjab all those comments weren't well received here in india with the ministry of external affairs calling them calling them ill informed and saying that canada shouldn't be making comments about internal affairs about the internal affairs of
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a democracy. the legislation changes the way farmers do business currently farmers a guaranteed a minimum price for their produce at wholesale markets the new law allows them to sell direct to anyone famous for big corporations could force prices down the law also allows private buyers to hoard essential commodities for future sales and farmers will be able to enter into direct contracts with private companies. let's bring in our guests in new delhi we have deeper senhor assistant professor of economics at university in delhi joining us from oxford is nikita sued associate professor of development studies at oxford department international development and pandey is an agriculture policy specialist and the former director of the institute for social and economic change and he joins us from bangalore and welcome to you
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all our us are i'll start with you if i may just give a quick brief rundown of what the main the most significant reforms the new laws will bring about. i would sit there and the new laws there are 3 laws yes one goes with the our commerce and the. it's called farmers' produce trade and commerce act now this comes under the constitution's concordant list part occurred and there are 6 or 7 points which are covered in this law interstate and interstate trading are produced is free is allowed but if we did without any kind of cess duties or excedrin yes electronic trading is permitted trade dollars must trade a bit up bankcard bankcard is
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a. personal accounting number electronic registration are traitors is essential if we're told are terrified getting into. not today libyan creates no market fees price information system should be in place and a dispute resolution is in place this is the 1st act the 2nd act is far most important under protection agreement act this is price esurance and problem services bill. farmers and a sponsor may enter this is a contract. they can enter into an agreement litter fix price with quality grade standards etc then the response of douglas $1.00 serving is to pick the product at the pre-decided price and pay $2.00 thirds of the amount immediately yes the sponsor prepared from act quieting this is the most important. thing only a few needs are marked gauge of the land of the farmer and this is in that
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insurance to be provided and elaborate. procedure is 2nd and the 3rd one then the 3rd on these essential commodities act allows the government to regulate the supply of certain food items and the stock limit may be imposed on agriculture produced only if there is a steep price rise and there are triggers about the steep price rise that is 100 percent in case of perishable if the price rises more than $100.00 will double prize a car 50 percent in case of nonperishable this is basically the clear act or it ok thank you very much deeper just why of many farmers so nervous of what are essentially made free market reforms of farming in india. precisely because of that so broadly if we look at these 3 acts what they do is that they would be to
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get lived because of the fact that the country and the state it's not in which the families have meanly protesting door states in which the market regulation this quite of bad public procurement by the state happens from a large number of problems they get to get into right and these markets of looking pretty efficiently and they also provide tax revenues to the federal government locally and so this is something that has. without much discussion something that should actually all is under the plough of you all of the federal government not the central government but the state government and i did dying then it's very difficult to put everybody across the country that suddenly think that such major things are being done that out picking the families in 2. is based i'm going to live the last you know all yellows that have been a huge protests across the country in fact asking for legislations which would
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increase that if they should reach one getting 3 at a minimum price but this is completely against what the promise have been demanding quote over the last little yes and it was something that this. is instilling a spirit in promise that the existing system will change in the way. families as individuals would have to deal with large utterance bed then by gaining file would obviously be much know. i read that a quarter of india's farm produce is lost to wastage surely that suggests some sort of reform is needed. that's absolutely right and also stenson believe one you know see that this government is trying to respond to a crisis in agriculture and you have touched on one of the issues of waste and but there are many others of gram one edition of access to credit and be quids it that you're not these 3 laws are being brought in to make additional harmless better in
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fact that's what the government wants us to believe however why we have to admit that that is a crisis. expectant incestuous sex because a farmer as went you know just last year in 2019 well looked and how's and farmers committed suicide in india. these at the not necessarily like your previous because that's not going to make conditions better for farmers they're going to liberalise and didn't get market sweaters what is really needed is false promise to have better access to credit did it get a nation crisis will send a sharp crisis like that for that produce and these acts to none of that are us there is no major economy in the world that leaves farmers completely the mercy of free markets quite like this does the e.u. $34.00 and a half percent of these budget goes on farming and fishing subsidies us subsidies
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for custody 37200000000 dollars this year your throwing the indian pharmacy the wolves are they with this right legislation. right i bet are quite a few. misunderstandings not only among the promise but also among black admissions. just now the other speaker said that the agriculture policy in the stateliest yes group that agriculture falls as entry portrayed under the state list that includes agriculture which means production agriculture education protection from person this is us and it is very absolutely clearly written for us . in the union list under the trade and commerce interstate trade is listed and also entry $33.00 which came in the concurrent list inserted with the 3rd amendment in $150.00 pull it specifies trade and
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commerce in war 2 stops enable our oil fields cartons and other crops now the farmers are told and in fact a lot of our commissions say that agriculture falls in the stateliest true but then it's only for that purpose 2nd thing is as far as farmer suicides are concerned there is a very very clear logical build up far more suicide and my book is there by fish publications. i'm speaking from sri which are taken of 30000 farmers in 2000 to yes across 13 states in the country which is impact of union support prices and the farm economy not had one job in it and one job is very happy with their missed me or a simple reason that like any other government are going to ration the
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government functionaries operating in the m.s.p. sector up and job are absolutely corrupt and i'm saying it on the camera for the reason that when the artwork extent printers are we off to grade to be monday immediately as soon as we can does the money being the great changes from c. to be around 2030 will be the difference from there from 10 quintals by the time we can wait it becomes 15 cringes ok which means a farmer gets a huge amount from the government neither the major neither neither. the parts annoys me ma the person who is grading or i'm losing in the think the state which is losing ok. thank you thank you very much deeper most indian farms are very small 1 point one hectare as another farms or even small i'm
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not one of the risks to them of the reforms so. i do need this drill that if you look at the found was so what protesting a lot sections of them are larger promise because like you said 80 plus indulging in farmers are what you would quote small and marginal and so big do not benefit from the repeal meant by the state very much they don't get the short answers however then the market either delayed it then if they don't mean not good things also that we lose out if it regulated markets learnt to many more price signaling for instance is $1.00 of those bad it kind of sets lower the price of areas commodities that even the government does not. reach 2 and the fed the floor for the price of. either issue which i was saying and yet again it's the bill with this whole issue will probably and i lolling the private sector today directly with what
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that means is that now you can have big corporate interests that icky dealing with problems without any regulation without any delay or means of ensuring that the promise interests of the. the families especially because they have so small on their interest can be protected or leave and they've looked at the pool or they have been to something to fly home that are wasting their. time that is in fact the biggest threat these smaller families would be left to die i didn't leak would be a great big company and almost to be able to raise them in the market and prices they would not get short prices and i get angry not because it isn't it is a problem becoming more expensive but prices i'm going to show it and even though this is that you talked about earlier it is all in super bowl with the last look back because really i just the markets and so on are so i just want to say that i'm
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not saying that people can get does not need want but going to want that neither does in fact more investment and more regulation rather than blowing in the other that nikita how is the how all these small scale farmers going to be able to deal directly with major businesses that surely the scales are already weighted against them off. yes absolutely and that's why they're protesting i think the. political ringback actors are being very unfair and not getting the pulse of the problem going to see it that these actually end bowering acts and the farmers don't understand what's going on in the farmers are the ones who actually facing the conditions that your previous speakers are talking about and that is like they're protesting why we might be seeing lots of farmers on the street we are also seeing organizations of well and smaller farmers who are protesting and trying to get
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their voice plugged in this is not new they have this protest have been on in many parts of locked in their full length of the door months and the government will do with it to hear what these farmers are seeing instead of trying to drag this legislation down and duties towards just because they have a majority. and they. also want to do ask you there are 77 and a half 1000 these regulated agricultural markets mandy's in india are they but we're sort of a role did they play in communities where they are. well. you know we have all nationalist government in power that's trying to turn last that what they're going to bring about is one market for one kind of. but we have to understand the sort of landscape in next year's monday's exists which are basically you know marketing produce marketing agencies it does not that monday you stumble all over the farm produce that doesn't leave. even today in more students and allow
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people to sell at their farm door rather than thinking that produce to amend the but like i was saying the my over the years and the minimum support price that doesn't really look for some commodities in these mondays i don't have a signal effect so all of the other goods that have been sold even at the farm go all and it does this sort of price that will be weak and therefore the signal being sent even to those not sending in my dues to date will have an adverse effect on plant prices and that's why big and small farmers are protesting mom and n r s before you address the comments of of our colleagues can i try again to get you to specifically address the issue of farming subsidies they're essential in europe they're essential in the us if you take them away from indian farmers half the population risks it's jobs is there enough support for these farmers with these new
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laws one thing is. nor where in their long it has been stated that m.s.p. is going to close to normal the 2nd thing is as far as contract farming is concerned and i don't know if you're able to go see this book. ok so what. this is on contract farming and density farms yes it's subtitle is entangled without no contract farming came in with their 2 coggan clean marvell a p.m.c. at angus what opium to act had 3 players in fact get told that here on the contract farming makes it come for the 34 d. contractor in while garment in the contract and garment actually worse are a strange latest forgive me for interrupting you because we have very very very tight for time but can i just specifically ask is there enough to ensure with the
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new laws that these farmers will be financially compensated very quickly if you can see these laws are not part of financial compensation if somebody is thinking of that not financial compensation goes through their misspeak 2nd thing is that if we believe and that's what many people believe that it be i'm see our market yards are properly functioning no there are strong cartels and i had done it on onion the cartel to begin from where it p.m.c. kill the other money be a lot of money these cartels decide the prices and these prizes are decided by even the signals in the air and i have gone into the p.m.c. ok 2 instances where the hurry on the farmers will come back to normal thank you very much deep deeper he's talking there about the about the cartels currently setting the prices there is some sort of reform needed isn't there is this the way
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to bring it about. absolutely bonkers not saying that the b m c is the way they have cut in people actually functioning politically or that they're very democratic that i've lived their lives that i had issues of that option and so on but that it's long then is not to get rid of the of the emcees in fact that at some states in the country like it or behind rich it will ever be a b m c a what about 10 years back and there you'll find that the markets have even learned that the families have no access they need not get out. because of them not having the monday still it is a need for reform but that if mom is not $100.00 does not live with any kind of regulation that would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater what we need is better they can issue and more support also look from the importance fairness the site that's not the one that the middle m.b.m. sees. often i actually in the absence of i just informal credit to the promise
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and. i are also very important for some great big i don't know what influence of like there in the family is about what's going on in the market that is so demented what that has been that is not being used to the debate this is still around now it's just completely different in the case of this evidence in your big corporations have a significant effect on the pricing of agricultural product products for example milk is often supply supplied at less than cost price protections as india learned from their protections here for the absolutely unlocked and that is why the farmers out why did it is true that the current laws do not do only that minimum support price and many come on to do this but there is a systematic weakening all. didn't fall off the farm lines and. being given to lauch agricultural provisions and there are very few seeds gods
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that yes. being big into current legislation these t.v. laws but others that we can talk about where the flying wasn't just being able to follow us that is not the case it's the corporations that are being pushed for a loophole and even if you see the federal government using that didn't list of the constitution publishing's will this legislation be a doing that because they are allowed to do that folks for the motion marketing like food that is aggregate is good subject to the government the central government to see this as well back to our agricultural marketing that is the farmers are fighting it because they're seen it doesn't matter o. identity and likely old and their power so that is that difference in how these this issue is being seen by the central government as cong was and liberalization and by the farmers as their own i get to be like knew what he's doing and you know who they are talking about completely different levels you know folks unfortunately
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time is against other more out of time thank you to all our guests to deepa sinha to nikita saud and pandey and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for more debate go to our facebook page facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story we'd also join the conversation on twitter we are a.j. inside story and i am just their opponent for me but it's my whole team here.
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