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ritter movie need being nominate in that supporting actress role and. cry other best actor nominations went to anthony hopkins for the father. lead for sound of metal and a posthumous nomination for chadwick boseman in model rainey's black bottom becoming goldman's death from cancer last year at the age of just 43 shocked and saddened his many fans. got about the kind of god god god he did i think a lot of people would say he's the sentimental favorite not just for his performance in the rain is black bottom but truly for his body of work in the best actress category frances mcdormand received her 6th her nomination for nomad land and viola davis got her 4th nomination from our raney's black bottom the other actresses nominated our carey mulligan for promising young woman but s.
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occur before pieces of a woman and andra day for the united states versus billie holiday the oscars award ceremonies will be held mostly virtually on april 25th robert oulds al jazeera los angeles. times a quick check of the headlines here on al-jazeera u.s. secretary of state anthony blinken on secretary of defense now in austin holding high level meetings in japan ahead of that arrival who have korea warned the u.s. administration to quote not do anything unseemly but in a meeting with his japanese counterpart u.s. defense secretary nord austin underlined the importance of the security relationship between both countries. i'm afraid. we're not quite. knowing of course. you know rushing through tomorrow
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as we work together for free. and of course. the u.n. secretary general has condemned the escalating military crackdown in me and. called on the international community to help stop the killing meanwhile the funerals have been held for at least 50 protesters who were killed on sunday the worst day of violence since the military overthrew the elected government in february brazil is getting its 4th health minister since the start of the pandemic. resin infection and death rates climbed rapidly in the world's 2nd worst affected country thailand's prime minister has become one of the 1st people there to be given astra zeneca vaccine briefly joined a growing list of countries uphold its use citing concerns about a few cases of blood clots among people who have been given the job so those are the headlines the news continues on al-jazeera after the street.
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you tell me what you represent is now illegitimate and we listen we do not. fence material any country. we meet with global news makers and about the stories that matter. it has. war some of these. shocking but what is even more shocking is that. may not be moving us as much as they did 10 years ago and that is an issue about syria do people really care around the world today we've been together on the stream syrian voices syrians to talk about the past 10 years and what they hope for the future we start with katie. i think people around the world engage was
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a sit and coffee there in different ways and now they are disengaging for different reasons 1st some people are engaged because of islam a whole big get it yours and after is for the offer i says are so as i make states they are now this in a 2nd some people guess because of true also that at the end their embassy and after 10 years of conflict it was because of and yesterday's compassion fatigue and said because i was i'm going governed idea in there and i make a lot of you but as a world are focusing on the suffering of their own communities and the communities like in syria we're joined on today's episode by maryam daughters ahead and also it is good to see you omarion tell everybody who you are and what you do hi everyone thank you for having me on the show i am mariam jello b.
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i am very representative of the syrian opposition coalition to their interactive nation i have been working with the united nation in the name of the syrian opposition for the last 10 years i am also a co-founder of the syrian women's political movement which i am very keen to always highlight and talk about the need for gender equality in all the work that we do because there will be no democracy and freedom and justice without including people and society in the decision making. is a regular guest on the stream to talk about syria welcome back door to tell everybody remind everybody you are what you do. thank you very for having me and i'm a physicist and my specialty is good people care medicine i practice in chicago but also i had an organization called medic lobola where so we support health care in this as their ages like yemen gaza strip but like there is today as you know leone
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colombia and syria or syria 'd is my homeland and i just returned from syria a few days ago 'd. medical mission to north syria to address a sure that the same to you for having me at the. alley and nice to see you tell our audience while i ferreted pretty direct here my name is eileen malik on your moronic and i direct the international reporting concentration in the new markets go journalism at the city university of new york and i am also the author of a book on syria the home that was our country and i write about syria as a country and wherever its people have gone to most recently i have a series that runs the new york times magazine about the same syrian refugees that i traveled with from greece to to northern europe and i've been following their lives for the past 6 years and plan to for the next 4 thank you so much and if you watch it on you tube you know what you can do we have a comment section you can jump right into the comments section and be part of
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today's program at dot to you said you were in syria just recently if you could give us a sense of where is the conflict right now what did you see that would say that syria is tied. to a conflict. well syria is still in crisis it's still in conflict and fortunately the 6000000 refugees are still refugees in the neighboring countries and lebanon in jordan in turkey on iraq and other places there is a large number of properties in europe that the displaced people in syria are still the displaced have the population 11000000 people are displaced i was an adlib province which is controlled by the opposition and it has 4200000 people have of them been displaced from other regions in syria from from there is there are the mask assault on other places aleppo of course and they there is no future for them one of 1200000 of them live in camps and then the camps 1250 camps i
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visited one of the camps i met with. a child her name is as mark i met with her also last year and the people that this 'd placement she was this place with her family 7 times before she ended in a camp near it lip city and last year i asked her what she will and she wants to be in the future and she told me that she wants to be a doctor this time if she's not going 'd to school because she has to work with her family to earn a living and this is unfortunate because what's happening in syria is affecting a whole generation of children it started the syrian crisis started with children calling for freedom and 55000 of them have been killed since the beginning of the crisis their life expectancy was cut down by 13 years in the 10 years of conflict and they're still you still are the main victims 'd of the crisis and unfortunately the international community does not have a solution for them to end this crisis and move towards peace and justice mariam al
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audience on you tube asking this question what are they fighting for this comes from talk a question. oh fighting whatever the syrian fighting for is that the question. yeah . i think i've been a lawyer from but when you live in any democratic country in the world you're expected to go every number of years to go vote for a new president a new government a new representative for your government we don't want to we did not have that right and we don't have that right in syria many people like myself had my family was forced to leave the country because. the oppression and the lack of freedoms in the country where so strong that my dad had been in prison 5 times you have to flee the country. so people came out in the streets 10 years ago asking for change to that kind of oppressive regime that we have in syria it's been ruled
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by the assad regime the father and now the son and there is no freedoms of any sorts of people came out on the streets to ask for dignity and freedom and respect and democracy and they were faced by guns by military force by planes by barrel bombs by everything possible to just stop them from coming out to the street to demand their basic rights that any people in any democratic country how. as adults are speaking he was shaking your head what was going on as you were hearing some of what he was saying down on the ground in syria right now are just thinking about the immense amount of trauma that it syrians are facing individually and then collectively and. you know i think we underestimate what you know when you speak young children. you know children are
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quite literally the future and i just think how can you build a future oron. you know point is generation with this generation by this generation when the trauma is so immense and there isn't really a possibility to to remediate it by asking for for justice or accountability you know even even before the the last 10 years which was sort of the 5th decade of the assad regime which the most recent i'm unleashed you know brutal brutal violence that was visible intangible there you know the regime the 1st for decades had also been violent granted in the kind of violence that is harder to see but the threat of arbitrary detention disappearance kept everybody quite in check and and i think a lot of what we saw in the last 10 years was sort of in part the result of. you know a society that had been traumatized for decades already and i just and that translated in many ways into an inability to sort of actual lives or to actually as
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a kind of future that i think people came out onto the streets for and i you know i just you know i'm working closely with refugees as a board member. organization of women and also as a journalist in the people and i sit with people and hear how they're trying to rebuild their lives and the obstacles are immense and the inability to have any kind of justice or accountability i think just compounds that level of trauma and violence that people have been forced to live with and it's just devastating i can just follow up on what that he has mentioned and. michel of the maria you know right now we're witnessing in my own martyr what would happen in syria in years ago when he had demonstrators asking for you know freedom for democracy and the army their main mar army is meeting them with snipers who are shooting at them and today they killed about 30 or 50 people 'd demonstrators that have been in
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syria for 9 months where the you have peaceful demonstration 'd is there is in asking for the same freedom that we enjoy in the west and the united states and europe and other places and there were they were met by snipers and by the army and you know eventually people carried arms to britain to protect themselves to to protect their families and communities from mass rape from displacement from snipers from people coming to the hospitals to pull out patients and then there's of carrying it from torture you know we're talking about a scale of torture that we have never witnessed in the recent memory 'd 200000 people disappeared in syria 88000 of them were tortured to death by the assad regime 600000 people were killed which is 2.7 percent of the population this is larger than any other conflict. so the scale of that dry cities that happen in syria displacement of the population 12000000 people is unheard of since the 2nd world war the scale of the psychological trauma on children is unheard of if you
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know every child in syria is growing without a certain future and that's adding to the drama of displacement and by lies that they have witnessed so this is something that has to force the international community to react you know the fact that we're not seeing syria in the media is very painful for us not only because we are syrian but because this is never been witnessed by the war in the in the past the what used to intervene to stop atrocities in syria for some reason we're 'd turning the other way and this is not helpful because it will come back to haunt us at one point justice will prevail but what happened in syria is making the whole world that there if you sentiment and the immigrant sentiment their eyes of terrorism the right of it group and populism all of this is happening in europe and in the united states in reaction to the syrian crisis but for some reason we're not connecting the dots that people are not going to get in the dark and policymakers especially the leaders of the united
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states president biden and before him jump and obama turn the other way from this crisis that they're affecting us then he says and questions were you friends can just jump from our own separate as they really want to talk to here and it's so rare that we get all syrians to talk to our own has a cache of wants to marry a map may put this one to you i want to ask what is the u.n. security council u n h r c that's the refugee organization of the united nations doing to handle the situation many questions about that if you could ask this one for you from flavia from say that that the security council has 5 permanent members and 10 nonpermanent members who are elected every 2 years so i don't the 5 permanent members they have the veto power to stop any kind of resolution that comes out of the security council that is an international for international. action there have been 15 resolutions about where put forward on syria to create some kind of. on the ground whether it was humanitarian or on accountability or on any political process
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and china and china and the russia russia has be told this 15 times so there is a very strong element that is supporting this or was on a mild heart element like another dictatorship or another region that's supporting this process that the regime has taken on of killing its own people this war against the people that makes it very difficult to do anything through the security council this is either i want to talk about you all alluded to this and this is the sense of accountability where is the accountability. you talked about the dreadful statistics of the people who have died. this is a tragedy in modern times and we talked to syrians about where it is the accountability where is that have a listen have a look we cannot talk about
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a political transition because really should we don't who lose who good relations from all sides are going to include us with no doubt every future and if they do what is the to question your brezik we really need to be looking at both state and non-state actors and we need to design a kind of delivery process so that it centers the most culpable which would be the assad regime. but accountability shouldn't also shouldn't be just on the most culpable it should be for every party and every person that participated in work. so there is. a process a legal process going on in germany right now tell us more about that where do you still the accountability may well be. well you're referring to the trials in copeland's in germany where 2 members of the one who's
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quite senior the other quite junior have been put on trial and a verdict has come down against the junior member but ironically both of these men are men who defected from the regime and in the case of the junior the general have put out a member he was giving his testimony to to the german authorities for it to make his asylum case that he needed asylum because he was in danger for having defected from the regime and it was in those interviews that the german police and the german state realised he had actually been an active member of the hot and he went refugee asking for asylum to defendant and now he is has been sentenced to 4 years to which have been served for his participation in crimes against humanity the more senior members trial will will take longer and so yes and our own bunny is a friend and the syrian lawyer who is one of the few people i actually speak to who remains hopeful and in general so the question is you know a lot of people put
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a lot of stake in the in getting a guilty verdict and other people didn't and people have been surprised you know there are some people for whom they didn't think they'd be much satisfaction in in a junior member having a guilty get a guilty verdict and have found themselves in fact quite you know finding some kind of catharsis in it while others who are hoping for her to have that catharsis didn't it's going to be a very individual reaction aren't on many levels but in terms of like true accountability you know the the greatest the greater greatest perpetuators of the perpetrators of violence remain in power in syria so we're talking about accountability that we should also talk about impunity and to just pick up on dr saad who's point from earlier in terms of the messaging that goes to the rest of the world when they see what happened what happened in syria i watched. watch the news from hong kong for me now are from there a ruse from russia and for those rulers who but want to be able to act with
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impunity there is a quite a bottle in syria that now we will enjoy this kind of immunity this impunity eventually the world will normalize your presence and you know the message that sent to the young people i mean our or in belarus is that you must be willing to either pay with your life or with exile if you want to speak out because the world is not necessarily going to stand with you know a fear if your country has imposed a sort of natural resource interest to the rest of the world you know exactly and on this same point some some people making accountability only affects the syrian people and i think all of us agree that without accountability well transitional justice we will not move to into a national reconciliation the return of the refugees reconstruction and peace in syria that happen in all other crises 'd like syrian crisis we need to have accountability but also lack of accountability killing doctors and nurses and bombing hospitals without accountability that means other regime will do the same
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and that happened using chemical weapons 330 times in syria by the assad regime that means other regime will use chemical weapons and we've seen that done by north korea by assassinating someone with with chemical weapon by russia assassinating 2 of its citizens by using chemical agents so a lot of accountability will take the whole war if we keep an eye on what's happening in syria chime it with doesn't hasn't in one of the hospitals that he i work with him is built in inside the cave for protection of hospitals because 500 if he has those were bombed in syria he was killed while at u.t. in his hospital because he's serving his community 940 doctors in theirs as were killed in syria and there is no accountability. yes if i may and i because i mean i'm going to squeeze in one more thought if i may because we spoke to so many syrians and they shared their thoughts with us all the video as well as you
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generous in sharing your thoughts with us live right now. also about what was a big advance that really were milestones for them over the last 10 years this is what they told us 10 years of this here evolution their support of the syrian revolution the government has used the fall of the beaches and for the photos that we have had from d.c. a field day digital pictures of the children of militants i think everybody and if really party that have if you bring in the syrian destruction i think they have to be i don't i don't think someone could get on the crimes have been committed in syria start to come yet tax on the peaceful protest to the paradigm's attacks and the chemical weapons attacks 100000 of victims millions of refugees
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a neighbor you know with the pictures here of a shirtless and twenty's along with russia and iran guess we have just a few minutes left for the end of the show is extraordinary how much they is to talk about syria and how little and how seldom we do so would you very swiftly finish your thought and then tell us one milestone that you want to share with us from the last decades of the syrian conflict sky has. i wanted to actually it was so nice that to hear what the activists have been saying is that one thing that we sometimes find in the media where they're talking about how it's a complicated crisis people like look at it all and like from afar you know syrians killing syrians and there is this confusion about what might be happening on the ground in syria and look at some natural disaster or really like our civil war where you have you know because of ethnic background or religious background where people are fighting together what we have in syria is a dictatorship that's killing its own people all over 90 percent of the atrocities
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that have taken place in syria the main reason for why people are leaving the country the refugee crisis all of the humanitarian crises that is on the ground it is a handmade by the regime itself the region has bee siege now we don't talk about these things but the regime at some point was beseeching millions of people refusing to have a deliveries go to them because they want to so mariya submit to their to is there is it possible to have a moment that say you is a searing moment for the last decade because i am going to move on to the co-pilot's because we're at the end of the show do you have a moment or is it the overall this is a manmade places that you want to leave us with there's so many moments so many moments i mean like there are so many more people coming out this week until today people coming out and celebrating the 10th anniversary of the revolution to me when i see all of these videos when i see children and women and young man and everybody you know holding the flags of the revolution coming out that all of the feed that
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i'm getting on my facebook all of the fuel getting on i am very happy that i'm getting from friends it's amazing that we share with them a share the conversation with go ahead pick one moment. well i'm going to pick a bit of a downer moment for me and i was inside syria at this time and this is sort of it was a turning point for me it was the the miter hamza hookey be young boy who were gonna test with this family his 32 year old all was detained tortured to death castrated burn marks and and that's that's all par for the course in me to and should but i was stunned that the syrian regime sort of put out a news program showing how you know it was it was one of the 1st big news programs i can think of sort of showing communicating that. trying to pretend all these were post-mortem injuries that they hadn't happened in the custody of the regime and i came to understand that this was a way where there is sort of high threats in plain sight to sort of threaten all of
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us with why what could happen to us or toward children should we should we descend and that was a very unsophisticated example of descent from nation and news and yet it has very much characterized what has happened in the last 10 years and in many ways answers your question as to why folks don't care in part because this group is kind of december mation campaigns that were maliciously insidiously put out have managed to confuse people as to who the real threat is what the truth is and makes it easier to be opposite it into 3 arms up and say i just don't now we only we would need a whole week of programs on syria and that's not a bad idea of a finale that's a say with you the twitter handles the social media platforms of obvious different guess. sol hole here on twitter you can find him 24 hours 70 much that we're fighting 24 hours 7 but he's very committed to this is aliased has
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a handle and this is to handle i'm going to leave you with the voices of syrians reflecting on the last 10 years of conflict in their country as of watching everybody see you next time. the regime has committed do you know of dozens of crimes under the eyes of the whole without doing anything from anyone. in the whole mood or go soon crisis because they are focusing. on how to destroy the soon to be ball and how to steal this union or the other is a story one of this and i think people are feeling hopeless helpless they don't know which is the best way to help the syrian people you think that conflict is so complex so you don't know how to engage how to how the syrian people the conflict is not complex subroutine killing. civilians who protest in asking perforating for crimes against civilians are ongoing tens of thousands of detainees are stone
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