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particularly donald trump, his success enough tale bennett is in washington. hoping to men ties on his 1st official trip abroad since taking office, but biden and bennett don't see eye to eye on a number of regional issues. the top of that list is the 2015 iran nuclear deal. biden has been holding indirect talks with tariff to revive the agreement, while israel has been strongly against it. natalie bennett has also made it clear. he won't allow for an independent palestine, but he had a message of cooperation as he left for washington. i don't want to go because there is a new government in the united states and a new government in israel. and i bring with me from jerusalem, a new spirit of cooperation and this race on a special and long standing relationship between the 2 countries. i'm up, let's take a closer look at the israel's new prime minister, the 49 year old enough tale. bennett is the son of jewish immigrants to the us who made millions in the tech industry. he began his political korea in 2006 and served
as a senior aide to benjamin netanyahu before becoming defense minister, among other roles in that tenure whose coalition governments bennett is part of israel's ultra right wing politics. but he is leading a coalition of different parties including leftists and israeli palestinians, but under a special deal his main coalition partner yale leopard, will replace bennett as prime minister by august 2023 will bring in our guests shortly. but 1st, our white house correspondent, kimberly how kit from washington. the white house says that the meeting between the israeli prime minister nestali bennett and us president joe biden is to discuss a broad range of issues including climate change f down a stan, iran and gaza. but it's clear that the israeli prime minister goes into this meeting with a number of agenda items that are at odds with by mid ministration policy. one of
those issues is israel's desire to continue expanding settlements, illegal settlements into the occupied territories. in fact, in an interview earlier this week with the new york times, the israeli prime minister, referred to this expansion as standard political growth. and this is something that certainly will create some friction with joe biden and his policy makers. he's also opposed to the creation of an independent palestinian state and he was vague about whether or not he would block a proposal by the, by an administration to put in place a palestinian consulate in occupied east jerusalem. now the other big friction point that is expected between these 2 men is the issue of the iran nuclear agreement to limit runs nuclear program. the buyback administration has been very clear that it seeks to revive this nuclear deal, but the israeli prime minister has a different view. in fact, he says that it is no longer relevant and he seeks to abandon it so well the is
really prime minister goes into this meeting, striking an optimistic tone in his public interviews. it's clear that many of his key goals are at odds with bite and administration policy. ah. so let's bring in august now in west jerusalem. we have a yeah of cuts editor in chief of the jerusalem post and author of shadow strike, and co author of weapon wizards, and israel versus iran in cold chest. in the u. k. natasha winsted, a specialist on u. s. foreign policy and deputy dean in the department of government at the university of essex. natasha is also author of democracies and authoritarian regimes. and in arlington, virginia in the united states salad again the senior fellow at the middle east institute and author of blind spot american and america,
and the palestinians from bow 4 to trump. good to have you with us. natasha lynch, that if i could start with you. this is the 1st time in 12 years that american president is meeting with an israeli prime minister who is not benjamin netanyahu. i suspect the optics of this will be more important than anything else at this point, but what is the brightest button administration looking to get out of this? yeah, do you think it really is more about the optics particularly because for biden, he's dealing with the crisis in afghanistan. i think look a bit chaotic and he wants me to look at business as usual. i think that he does want to try to assure israel that iran is a threat, but i think he will be communicating that his approach to dealing with the wrong will be different than bennett of israel's approach. because prime minister been
and is going to be trying to convince bite in that we really need to isolate iran further get away from trying to get back to the nuclear deal. but i'm not on the same page about that. and so i think he's going to try to both assure israel that the u. s. is a committed partner. well, at the same time demonstrating that the u. s. does want to get back to the iran deal and doesn't want to completely isolate iran. of course, it will come back and try to present a case of how dangerous iran is and that there is a lot more enrichment of uranium and that iran is really a menace to the region. but we'll see that i don't think they're completely on the same page about this. young cas, natalie bennett, says he wants a fresh stop with us. is he going to get it? i think he'll get it for one very simple reason. at least that will give him some credit from the outset that he's not benjamin antonio. right?
there's no secret that benjamin and funny are when the democratic party in united states have had a long history of tension. and it's coming talking about a new spirit and new start and new government in jerusalem that can not necessarily see i similar to what natasha said on issues of extreme importance for his or whether it's the iranians or even the palestinian issue, which we might talk about they're definitely not gonna agree on all of those big issues or how to confront them. but the fact that matter is that these are new people in new roles and they don't have the same baggage or storage baggage that natalia used to carry with them. therefore, i think the whole get that start the americans are going out of the way they are showing him a lot of respect bended for his part is not airing dirty laundry in public. he's not one who's gonna go, for example, to congress and speak out against the sitting president, like nathaniel, who did it back in 2015 when he gave that speech against radical bama when he was entering it to be around, we are deal. so i think that everyone is trying to respect one another. they're
trying to get along, they're trying to work together. but we will see what happens when these issues need to have policy set for them and about them. that's where you might start to see a bit of cracks in a little more attention pallet they'll get the what is, what is all this mean for palestinians is, is this more the same? just the names have changed or is there an opportunity for a fresh start? well, no, i think there probably it probably is. we're going to see more of the same. i mean, historically, regardless of the ups and downs of the relationship between the 2 leaders, the, the u. s. israel special relationship has generally been immune from personal, political, ideological, or even strategic differences. you know, we saw that, i think most clearly and the obama administration where you had the president and the israeli prime minister had a terrible personal relationship. and yet,
the bilateral relationship, actually sword to new heights. you know, we had unprecedented level is a cooperation on unprecedented levels of american military aid to israel, very, very little pressure, even on the palestinian issue. virtually none at all. biden is even less inclined to put pressure on any israeli leadership. frankly, when it comes to the palestinian issue, both because it's not a real priority for the administration and because he's trying to avoid headaches on the domestic political front, his party is quite divided on on these issues. so really is i think going to be both the binding administration and a prime minister. bennett, i think are committed to maintaining the status quo in as, as calm a form as they can,
as they can manage. they're not going to disrupted with any major announcements or proposals or initiatives. so yes, the palestinian, the palestinians will get sort of pushed to the back burner. until of course the situation explodes as what we saw in may of this year. you're talking about the gaza, the, the conflict of a gaza. yeah, this support, i mean the, the crisis began in jerusalem of course, and with the pending expulsions of palestinian families by radical settlers. and then it quickly spilled over into into garza, and both of those fronts remain active and volatile and could, could lead to another confrontation at any moment. and so i, i think the by the administration will, will allocate some minimal political and diplomatic resources to conflict
mitigation, you know, trying to stabilize the situation. but they're not really going to address any of the core issues, especially those issues where there are differences. like settlement. let's put some of that to, to natasha. then i want to ask, as well, is, is there a limit to how far the u. s. can push israel on so many of these, these issues of palestinians and iran and so on, given the strength of the israel lobby in washington and their ability to influence us policy in the region, regardless of who is presidents. yeah, i agree completely with what has just been said. the relationship is iron climate. it hasn't moved much or change. and in fact, as was just said, even when obama and young, who had a terrible relationship more military funding was going to to israel. and this is because they sign memorandum of understanding that doesn't expire until 2028. so
well after vitamins had, let's say to administrations if he gets reelected, where at a bare minimum u. s. is going to give israel 3300000000 in a most of that goes to military grad weapons grads. and there is no oversight about this. israel is actually the only country where the u. s. gives, in a lump sum and not in quarterly installment. and he doesn't know where the spending is taking place. and the us has done this for, you know, reputed a year after year in spite of the fact that there are in human rights violations that don't square with what the u. s. and security strategy is inviting security strategy. he mentioned again and again this idea of values and human rights and that age should be condition on human rights. but these 2 things don't seem to go together when it comes to israel, because this relationship is so deep and it doesn't really seem to matter what israel does. so, i mean, i think with this 1st meeting,
this 1st meeting is probably more important to, to bennett a visual because he's a new prime minister. but in the long term, i tend to think that israel has tended to, to hold the cars and sort of the tail wagging the dog. let's get skipped, but get back to yak of nathan, i want to ask as well that is really prime minister right now. leads a very broad coalition that governance is, as we mentioned, narrowed, includes leftists as well as israeli palestinians. and if i'm not mistaken, it has a majority of 11 vote in parliament. does that limit him in, in how far he can go is policies and particularly towards the palestinians? well, i mean, i'll definitely talk about the colors 1st. i think i have to address the contradiction that the 3 of you just threw out one after the other. right, you talk about how deep the relationship is been on the united time, talk about the human rights violations and that the interest and the reason that the us is supporting israel because of the israel lobby right. me but,
but on the other hand, it is because of the deep relationship between is around the united states. i mean, you guys gotta get your story right. first of all but, but, but really i think what we're talking about is that there's 2 issues that play number one is that yes, the relationship is around the united states is deep and does transcend many different levels and impact military security, technological cooperation, economic ties, all because of the fact that the united states recognizes the critical role that is replacing the stability here in the middle east, in the fact that surrounded by terrorist organizations that are bent on its destruction and has to daily defend itself. you can call the defense of israel, a human rights violation natasha. and you have time can talk about how it's the israel lobby, like some sort of kind of, you know, criminal organization behind the scenes pulling strings. well, let me clear about this. no one said that the israel lobby is a criminal organization. i simply said in the question that they have,
they do have a lot of influence in policy making in washington that, that was it. but again, you can talk about things in those terms and throw those types of i have to say even to the way you refer to the as a lobby is you know, some, some people might want to even say that it's on the verge of some rhetoric that might think of a bit of antisemitism, but i'm not going to go there. i will talk about the diverse and broad coalition. israel does have, and that is the fact that today there is a government and israel, the represents. and the most representative of israeli society that we've ever had this printer, you have error participation in the coalition. you're breaking participation left when participation and center participation. all that together creates a government. that is the most representative that israel has and not tony bennett, even with his written policies, which no one is denying that he comes with is standing at the head of a government. that is the most representative of israel ever with arabs who are
part of that coalition. how did that again, do you wanna respond to some of that? well, i mean, i certainly don't disagree with the the analysis that this is probably one of the broadest coalitions we've seen in israel's history. and, but that also makes it quite fragile and very, very status quo oriented. this coalition is not going to take any serious steps. never mind, permanent status issues like dividing jerusalem or creating a palestinian state. those things are clearly off the table if only because it's really politics has shifted so far to the right. that there isn't really a consensus any longer on a 2 state solution. these railways have abandoned the 2 state solution. for the most part, i mean you have a very, very solid right wing majority in these railey can acid.
so we're not going to see even the most minimally meaningful gestures. most likely coming out of this government. not just because natalie bennett is a hard line, right winger who doesn't recognize the existence of a, of a palestinian people or even an israeli occupation in the west bank and gaza. but you know, we're, we're not going to see even the most minimal kinds of gestures, like lifting the siege in gaza that has caused such tremendous suffering cancelling home demolitions putting, you know, curbing israeli settlement activities. those kinds of things i think are also on the table off the table because they are likely to bring down the government. and so i'm not sure that this government can survive the,
the full 10 year or even frankly, to the rotation to a prime minister le pete after 2 years. natasha list that i want to get your response to some of this as well. and i'll ask you as, as well, about a little bit more about iran because that's obviously something that there is quite a lot of disagreement on between israel and the united states right now. is there any sort of middle ground that they can find on that to this point? it's resume issues. iran, there's more common ground. i mean, as we have already discussed, there's a lot of tension about of the issues of settlement and expansion and so forth. but in terms of our iran, they, i think the us and israel both agree that iran is incredibly dangerous and it is problematic. and of course, yahoo and trump are on the same page about this in trump left the around nuclear deal. but by and does want to try to return to the deal,
even though iran just elected a very hard line president, it look like iran is becoming more conservative and hard line than even in the past . if that's possible. buyer wants to return to the deal. there was a lot of years work putting to getting that deal together and they feel that the administration feels that engagement is the best way forward. but he have caution, you know, they shares with is real great alarm about iran and also find maybe on the same page with israel. but the idea of, according relationships with some other arab countries in the region, we know that israel has normalized relationships recently with bahrain and united arab emirates. and they're trying to court relationships with some of these other gulf states that you know, there is communication that takes place all of it is not all out in the open. but even with saudi arabia, there is hidden communication and cooperation. very passive. that takes place that
i think the u. s. would be on the same page with israel if they're trying to continue to normalize relationships with some of these other countries. yeah. how can you expect that to continue the normalization of relations with our countries? i think there's definitely right preferred ground for that to be to continue and for the administration as well. this role, of course, to build on. right. we know that obviously they're really agreeing that reached year ago between israel in the united arab emirates with bahrain with morocco, with sudan, there was a normalization agreement. we know that the saudis were in talk, the monies were in talks and there's, there's a bunch of other countries that there's still potential to close those deals with. but it will require of the binding ministration and talk to put some of its political capital on the table. yet to see that happen, i think they are definitely distracted at the moment with matters of greater importance such as was happening. and again, a stand and obviously some sort of resolution and looking for with the ron nuclear threat. but i'm sure that that's one of the issues is going to come up in the
conversations between the prime minister and the president is something that is what definitely wants. and we see that the region is ready for this, right? they want this region is hungry for more stability in normal, more normalization. hello, wendy. i want to ask you about where the, the palestinian leadership that moves forward on this because we saw those, those protests that took place in the palestinian territories and in july against the government there. and the way that the authorities that crack down on peaceful descent and try to block any sort of popular mobilization and the security services . i mean the among it's kind of reinforced this belief didn't it, the, among many palestinians that the authority acts as a, as, as an agent of israeli occupation in there was what, what implications does that have for their dealings with israel and the united states and the perception among many palestinians that their leaders are not acting
in their best interests. yeah, i'm happy to to address that, but just a quick word on the, on the normalization front. i think we have to be a little bit more nuanced when we talk about what these normalization mean, where they come from. i happen to believe that we've sort of reached the peak of what could be achieved in the, on the normalization front. the u. e. and bahrain were, were very, very eager participants in the normalization dynamic, the u. ag lead that process. but i really don't think that the rest of the arab world is quite ready for normalization, particularly in the absence of an end to israel's occupation. 5000000 palestinian to are ruled by military regime for which they, they cannot vote. so i think the normalization and then you know,
the situation with morocco, sudan, one was heavily coerced and the other was you know, some ways sort of a diplomatic bribe. recognition of moroccan over into the western sahara, which is occupied territory just like the palestinian occupied territory. so i don't think the by the administration is prepared to go to the same length in terms of arm twisting. and frankly, threats and coercion as in the case of sudan to push the normalization agenda. i think it sort of reached a limit, but on the indian front, yes, the situation is, is, is quite terrible. the palestinian authority is becoming more and more repressive. it has always been sort of liberal in its approach to palestinian civil society to certainly had very little tolerance for internal
descent. but it is becoming increasingly so i think that a large part because the whole purpose of creating the palestinian authority was that it would eventually graduate and become an independent palestinian state. and so here we are in the 28th year of a 5 year interim arrangement. and there is no palestinian independence on the horizon. and so in a lot of ways that the, the whole purpose of the power in authority has been taken away. it's raised on that is simply off the table. and so that the palestinian authority is really exists in survival mode and the way it will survive is how really last legitimacy it can only survive. we're going to repression. we're gonna have to leave it there where we're at a time. good discussion. thanks so much for being with us on inside story. yeah.
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