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presidential elections and that said, these migrant will likely only increase the exodus from their troubled, torn country and see a newman al jazeera at equilla costa rica. now peruse. congress has confirmed a moderate left when cabinet. after 3 months of political wrangling, president pedro castillo has been struggling to get the opposition led congress to approve his choices. the line up is also alienated some of his allies, and several ministers voted against the new cabinet. ah ha, that says al jazeera, these are the headlines. sedans, military leader has agreed with the u. s. secretary of state on the need to speed up the formation of a new government. general abil fatter, albert han has also ordered the release of for civilian cabinet ministers who had attained in last month's military take over him. a morgan has more from cotton.
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those who were relieved are the minister of information, the minister of trade, the minister of it, or of communication and the minister of youth and sports. the minister, the cabinet minister in the office of the prime minister, is yet to be released, as well as the minister of industry, and the spokesperson oper dissolve sovereignty council. so it's clear that there are still other officials who have been released general add them for their overall hon. on the day he took over when he addressed the media. and the nation said that those who do not face criminal charges will be released while those who are not really these are the ones who are potentially facing criminal charges. so it's looks like those ministers who are yet to be released will be facing criminal charges. the un security counselor said to me on friday to discuss the escalation, conflict in ethiopia. international calls are growing for an immediate cease fire, and us envoy is right now in addis ababa to push for de escalation rebels from the northern te gray region. say they've taken towns on a highway to the capital and the government has declared a state of emergency. china has reported 68 new cove 19 cases as it scrambles to
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contain a new outbreak. more than 900 infections have been reported since the surge began and mid october, spreading to half of china's provinces officials of maintained a 0 tolerance approach to this pandemic. defending the use of severe and sudden locked arms on me, my china says it will stop people who support tie one's independence from entering hong kong and macau or its mainland. beijing says those who support independence will be held at criminally liable for life. the commons come after us and european union delegations visited taiwan and recent days. china considers the island to be a breakaway province on climate activists. as you can see, there from these live pictures are gathering at the cop 26 summers and glasgow. large crowds of ground have joined a use day rally organized by the fridays for future global strikes. movement. the group says the promises made by leaders so far will not be enough to protect the planet for future generations. while those the headlines and next it's inside story
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holler will have more news after that. ah. the p steel, it ended the war in bosnia herzegovina, 26 years ago, is in danger of unraveling threats from bosnian sub leaders. a cooling for the withdrawal of support from state level institutions in republic, a sub hska and entity with around one point. 2000000 people that makes up roughly half of bosnia herzegovina could such a separatist push, see a returned to the conflict in the region. this is inside story. ah
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hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, a u. s. broke a deal brought an end to the bosnian war among boston subs, crowds and boston acts in 1995. but some of the ethnic divisions and tensions that sparked that 3 year conflict have continued to simmer for the past 26 years so months, so that the now threatening the unity of the balkan nation, the bosnian serb leader miller. i bought a case threatening to pull out of state level institutions, including the national army, built up with international assistance over the past quarter century and to reconstitute a sub force. the international communities envoy christine schmidt says that such threats posed an existential threat to the nation. all of this, as the un announced an extension to the mandate of the european union military force, a yearly practice to help maintain peacekeeping operations in bosnia herzegovina. we'll get to our guests in just a few moments, but 1st
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a report from out is here is jona, how plans by the bosnian serb leadership to exit some of the country's tripartite institutions, including the military, are described by the international communities. hi, representative christian schmidt as tantamount to secession. they constitute, he says, the greatest existential threat of the post war period. he's talking about bosnian serb leader miller and da dick who says a new army will be set up in the sir brun entity of republic, a sub scott with the bosnian army force to withdraw if necessary. he says the serbs will call on their friends for help, a presumed reference to serve the proper and russia, ali republica since. gotcha. that republic us epsco will control its own affairs in a legal constitutional manner, including by having its own army judiciary, fiscal administration, as well as intelligence and security agencies. we will reestablish all these institutions last month,
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a training exercise by bosnian sir police was denounced by muslim balls in the 2nd crow at leaders. the other members of a 3 way power sharing government formed by the 1995 date the peace agreement. they took place on the mountain overlooking, sorry, over from where serv snipers and artillery they seemed to the capital beginning in 1990 to thousands of civilians died in a war that culminated in what international judges have called genocide when more than 8000 mostly men and boys were massacred by serb troops in the eastern enclave of reverence. hi, representatives report to the un this week says there is a very real prospect of a return to conflict in bosnia. but there is no obvious appetite on the part of western powers to increase their security presence. their political tensions are part of daily life in a country such as boston, heard to governor, where you have different groups competing for political power. but you didn't ever
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see threats of the violence or b as in session or be parallel institutions come this far as they have now, at least not in a very long time. millard dick has for years called to the separation of the serb run part of bows near from the rest of the country. a just weeks ago, dick shared the scenes on social media. he and colleagues singing sir nationalist folk songs in their sorry, over headquarters. it was a reminder that the u. s. sponsored piece in both near did not bring ethnic hominy, nor did it come with any long term guarantee. jonah, how al jazeera ah. alright, let's bring it, i guess for today from, sorry, ever. we joined by ham's a conscious associate professor of political science at the university of sorry, a vote from berlin. bought a webber who's a senior associate at the democratization policy council. and from belgrade were
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joined by alexander, president, a journalist, usually based in, sorry, of a gentleman. welcome to the program. so if we can stop with you, christian schmidt says there's a very real prospect of a return to conflict in bosnia, is he right? i think he is, and this is the most serious political crisis. the boss is currently facing since the end of the war and 1995. we are not sure how this will move forward and what the outcome will be, but i would agree with mr. botto, what should the international community be doing right now or the you of the us taking the situation seriously enough? ah, rising awareness, fortunately, there is a serious declaration. i agree with my previous says that this is the most serious crisis we've seen in the over the war. unfortunately, this crisis is one of the west, the use and the u. s. own making its self inflicted wounds. clothing will be seen
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as the human secret council yesterday. so the west not only has not driven its crisis to emerge. its officials are directly responsible for the emergence of this crisis. they need to urgently make your turn and take this crisis serious and pull the public priority. but he says, self inflicted, what is it, what is it that they haven't done that they should have been doing? well, i mean, for 15 years we don't think we, since the west has put over responsibility for leaving the country to the domestic leads. we are lacking any policy western long term strategic policy towards the reach and that's what was missing. we created a white comment which nationalist could a thrive and in which russia would jump in as a no called spoiler. on the other end for the last 34 years,
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and then went on leg of political will to deal with the country and deal with the why the west watson region. we are seeing mid level officials. we have been tasked with mission and was on to fix situations in the bottom without higher levels of board that they for career is reason i'm starting to collude with national leaders and they're again joined us making an opening crisis with the currently c is one that has started with e, we asked like ocean or lack of customer service for us to go. and then it was on the dirty deal division one below the public radar and capitalist rate or in most, in the most or last year. and the follow up in so called lexical or respond negotiations. you and us officials have be leading since february this alex ah, to do you agree with what you've heard so far? is the peace deal that ended the war 26 years ago in danger of unraveling?
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i think this is going to be one of those shows where all the guests agree in absolute principle when it comes to the fact that this is the biggest christ bob has to go into has experience. and since 1995 and the finding of the court however, maybe i'm, i was i'm a born optimist. but i still do think that there are some checks and balances within the very they peace accord. but also the country itself are complicated, that might be as complex as it might be, that might prevent any kind of, you know, everything that we're seeing so far escalate into some kind of open, open, open conflict, the size of a war. hm. so what is the mood like there in, sorry, april, at the moment a people genuinely fearful? yes, i think many people are concerned. much of this reminds them of the fall of $91.00 when another on college. and his ilk began undertaking this month's long process that led to secession and job site. so many people are joining parallels. are this
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fall 2021 to 1991. so i think many people are generally concerned. okay, what do you think miller? i bought a kit is up to right now. why is he doing what he's doing or with who's backing? well, he is now undertaking the most decisive and the most substantial steps towards the session. now, previously he was to talk about and independence for the public service. got, but now he is fine too, and he's tactics. and now he's talking about peace while doing editing, to undermine it. and he obviously has the bacon of serbia, and i think he hopes to get the backing of the liberal democracies in central europe. bordeaux doric says that if the west tries to intervene militarily to uphold the peace plan, he has friends who have promised to support the cause. who are those friends? how seriously should we take his threats?
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well, i would say we've seen in the past, you read that. he definitely has a few friends among you members, but this is not the biggest danger for mr. though the really implementing is. and the danger here is that here and you're free for all and i think we have to line, we're political calculation, christ this crisis. let me remind you, mr. dody, who is not the product, is all the regime in 15 years in the are not the product of so part by citizens or so don't support this dangerous adventure. it's a product of western weakness. he has maybe 30 times for the last 15 years. threat with referenda, a passion, testing the west red line, experiencing that these red lines are not there and moving those red line. currently because of that background i mentioned previously,
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he has been pulled by the accelerating weakness of the west and by our official mid level officials, really playing into the hands nationally agenda. and i think he was hoping to get something in return for this threat. but he is, it seems to me point by the lake of a serious result and responds into our action for the 1st time. maybe no, not seeing how to make a u turn and stop this session. but having to implement the so i mean, we are in the interest of miscalculation political miscalculation. we're really because of this power, red comb. everything can happen, whatever the support from bank of it is, i'm pretty sure the grid which itself is playing this game with western weakness between east and west, and on the russian and even the russian and playing on the western weakness that nobody wants to conflict. as i said,
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we are beyond got relations and the west is only starting to wake up. so this is a very dangerous alex. how did you agree with other daughter case? politically miscalculating, he says he wants peaceful dissolution. unraveling institutions like the intelligence and security agencies. the state court, the constitutional court. what does that mean for for bosnia herzegovina, the state given what happened there? how can that be? how can he think that could be peaceful dissolution? one off of the country doesn't get to say it. i think that's a really good point to make. i think there cannot be such a thing as peaceful the solution because that they think the support itself does not allow or have a provision that would allow one i think group or several. couple of, i think groups to as is that peacefully succeed, i'd think the only way to defeat or split up the country would be through another war. but when we talk about the like and his capabilities, as a politician, i think that he, you know, he represents that the,
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the kind of populist at, if most, it's most simple formally put it that way. so for instance, when he brought in an accordion player to the president, man her to going to he has office in the present to both her to go in and sign songs. and you know how hard liquor mid day and called his mother. he wasn't just signaling you know, the kind of confidence that you will see in your average for this in the balkans you will hear what he was also trying to signal is that he is in charge of making the right decision for his people and the very sort of folks the way and that's the problem. i think this does speak to a lot of people in the public schools also throughout the region also. but at the same time, i do want to say one more thing regarding an earlier question. and you know, you ask whether people are fearful, and i think a lot of the comes from previous experiences. the country has gone through
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a very bloody war, as we all know some 30 years ago. and, you know, you have up to half of the population who suffers from some form of bcc. people are very easily triggered and they're even more easily triggered. and this is where i don't think because it's calculating, i think he's calculating, you know, to his advantage. is there even more easily triggered? if you mention that you're forming, we, are we forming an army that was active during the 19929095 war and was responsible for genocide. again, we have all sorts of atrocities and earlier attempt dividing the country. so you know, if, if there's an answer to your question, i think we can find it probably there comes that you want to come in on that. well i think that dolock is now many people think here that don't, it is not bluffing that he's actually going to see the state level institutions of
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that in order to send competences and then take those and empower to public a subs come. so what he's doing basically is politics. 11, he's establishing new effects on the ground. but he is also, he has built close relations with russia, close relations with serbia. so now he, he is, you know, the thing, his policies as bringing the country closer to what he referred to as an original dates on, which is basically a euphemism for this mentally and undermining state institutions. his strategy is very clear he wants to undermine. and this mental state institutions to prove that bosnia is incapable of functioning while at the same time trying to build up the public us steps car would be a state like entity. so has a will the high representative do next? will he make for the use of the bond powers of 1997, which, which grant him a power to prevent the dayton agreement being delayed or obstructed by local
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politicians where they've already been used extensively. but they're not without controversy. are they? well, you know, the office of the high representative is a shadow of its former self, and it's actually deciding over its own decline into relevance. so now at the, the new height presented to mr. schmidt, who is not being recognized as a highlight by the serbian side even if he were to impose sanctions or strive to sec, elected officials. it's not clear that they would actually obey this. so i think the, what was left on the way shot is a, is a p shadow of the form of self. so they're not relevant as, as much as they were some 10 years ago. butter. do you agree with that? how, how does i was this the softest to schmidt as he is? have u. s. d, you support for more vigorous action against those who oppose the unity and, and territorial integrity of bosnia herzegovina. while i would agree with my
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predecessor that you are charged, not the one it was until 2006 the let me remind you when we had this policy shift on bosnia, the western one and she's the leadership from the u. s. u in the double shifts in 2006, which created mister dorothy, ah, there's a shift towards so called ownership. that means pouring over responsibility to local leads. and this was a policy were where it was announced that the west with a closed or char, and they cleared basically a success. that person is a stable country. but as we had not transform the date and constitutional order, which was and has remained an order for this functional state that only works for the ethnic really this did not work out but the west because it was never had a political will never adjusted it. policy and was left without any strategic
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policy in return. it was the west itself, the neutralized office of the high representative. so, i mean, the situation we see currently is we still have the instruments to stop this man as both on the civilian side with the ohio representative and office on the military side with the you from a military mission. and they do each queue and cerebral, which with a chapter 7 security council mandate to mer to guarantee a safe and secure environment and to protect the constitutional order of the country. and that is a court that mr. dodie is threatening to unravel here but, but as we have 15 years of policy weakness and, and negligence and ignorance, including in the last year. and we have a very serious question of whether the west is aware what's going on and whether it's ready to use its instrument. and if i just point to you you, it was yesterday's un security council boat, which was restored to print on the,
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on the annual extension of you for a minute in which russia a stepped up with a black meal threatening with a video and the western standing members of the security council, friends, you korean us out of a lack of political will, a to fight back on that we do. and i not accept that we do, basely sign off russia on their part, meeting at alexander what's the role of croatia and serbia in all of us? well, it's a really interesting question. i think, you know, the role survey is quite quite obvious. someone who is quite interested and least at the very least supporting the boss and serve the bosnian serb regime in the report because of scott, at least, you know, in some sort of form, whether it's through financial means as negroes, as or through, you know, just general verbal support,
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but what i think is indicative what is something you can be gleaned from the last meeting that body cod in belgrade with alex on which the president of serbia where after the meeting came out and said, and he was in full support of the continuation of that you for mission involvement, which was very interesting at the same time, is that what you said? the article and his cohort should go for planning, solving the issue of, you know, land, state property or state on land that has not been resolved, which is another thing that me, what i've been trying to do over the years, which is transfer all of the state on the state, on by the state level agencies or governments or what have you, property onto the n c. and that has failed miserably several times in the past. that also, i think, can indicate that i at least believe that he does not have the full support for which and which is actually quite interested in possibly finding an alternative
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leader of bosnian serbs, in bosnia who he could work with much more closely and probably get more from as far as crazy is concerned. i think, you know, obviously since we haven't heard much from the bosnian cross on this entire issue, their support has lived as of many, many years been with us and daniel. so i think, you know, then again, politics and creation being what they are, they're more interested in pushing for the hello, lori form that are a border mentioned earlier, which is a completely different problem the plaza is undergoing at the same time. and it's something that we would have to, you know, have another entire other shows, talk about that. and so we're, we're rapidly running out of time here. uh, before the renewal of, of the un peacekeeping mandate this week, russia had threatened to block a resolution unless all references to the you and hiv representative for work removed potentially undermining further christian schmidt's authority as,
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as the overseer of that, the date in the court. and that was after schmidt had said that more international peacekeepers would have to be sent to stop. and he slide back towards was the serb separatist, carried out their threat to create their own army. what are the implications for bosnia of russia's threats of the un? well, i was just like to refer back to something that both of us said, i think the european union force in boston you for is awfully inadequate to deal with any security challenge here. so i think that the extension of the amended in bosnia isn't as important as you will have it, as you tend to think about it 1st. so, but i think russia is also, you know, has stepped up its support for and close the links. we don't think so. i think he comes from russian support in what he does. but oh, what happens if dayton fails all? well, is dayton fields. we're going to have conflict. we're going to have violent disintegration . i mean, the madness of, i mean, you see, this is
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a gambling by mister dorothy. what alexander mentioned about the singling of mister go, the extra in this meeting with the president, which is from belgrade, is a clear indicator he wants. this is a gambling of threads threatening disintegration of bosnia to the west and once a return, particularly from the you for stopping it. but that return a like he's both and product gardener, mr. trowbridge, on the election law, ron is based the following. something very similar. it's a, it's a face disintegration of the country. one, he wants basically an arrangement on an approval from the u and the u. s. b. girls, what he wants and bus me to try which want is to turn bosnia really far. and boy that they are doing this for 10 years into a kind of union of entities and can, and that space, you know, journal division which would ultimately lead to the center bridge. they're still
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can be a stop in here. i don't agree with my producers. the, with the west has instruments to stop this. you for can act if it has the political world, they are actually understaffed and to remain. but they can call in over the horizon to stop any conflict. but it's a question of political will. and that political will was not there when the, when the west was friends with the russian beat on you for ok. and so they accepted this black mailing in the, in the security council of stripping the resolution of extending the many for one more year from any language reference to our. and that by itself does not have legal consequences. but it sense a very dangerous legal political signals, because always tell mr dodie to bang right and to russia, that it is not clear that in a case of a threat, a security threat which, which these announce steps towards succession would mean that the west is ready to
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grant authority to the high right. ok to use the one on the political side and to you for on the other end to, to, to act on the military. and that's a very dangerous judgment that we're going to have to end it. many thanks and aid to you will have a coach put a webber and alexander brezza. as always, thank you for watching. don't forget you can see the program again at any time by going to the website out here a dot com for further discussion. join us on our facebook page. you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and you can join the conversational twitter handle at ha, inside story for me, adrian, for again, the whole team here. thanks ah.
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ministers who have been arrested and one member of the sovereignty council. so those who were released are the minister information, the minister of trade, the minister of it are of.


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