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and if he was truly behind malcolm x is killing, may never be answered. fill of al jazeera washington more tennis players and the heads of some of the sports governing bodies raising concerns about a missing chinese star. thanks way has not been seen in public since she made sexual assault allegations against the top chinese government official. 2 weeks ago, the head of the women's tennis association received an email purporting to be from her, but he's now questioning it in it. she says she's resting at home and retracts the allegation. ah, it is came to me with a solo, adrian. so they get here in doha, the headlines and al jazeera india's government as says that it's that withdrawing 3 controversial farm laws. the legislation had triggered nationwide protests that lasted more than a year. the government introduced the measures last year saying that they modernized the agriculture sector, but farmers said the reforms hurt their livelihoods. i did match
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up today i have come to tell you and the entire nation that we have decided to repeal the 3 laws summoning we will complete the got to the short process of repealing the laws during the parliamentary session that begin to the end of this month to day am asking all my former friends who had been protesting to return to your homes. you are farmland 0 and your family is. belarus has cleared a makeshift camp used by asylum seekers at his ball with poland. hundreds of mostly iraqi kurds have abandoned their attempt to enter the e. u and have returned home. spain's coast guard has rescued a group of migrants near the canary islands. the boat was carrying 40 people to had died at sea. 2 others were taken to hospital at a critical condition. it's the 2nd time this week the coast guard has had to make a rescue in the area. sedans, police chief is defended, his security forces insisting they used only legal means to control recent opposition. protests doctors though,
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so that at least 15 demonstrators were killed by live fire on wednesday. is the law on monday for the safety of citizens and to avoid disorder. police forces are usually keen during operations of protecting protests and marches. to keep weapons fit for use in context of civilians, mainly relying on t gas. women of different types. canada's military as helping with rescue efforts in the flood devastated province of british columbia on persons confirmed dead. at least 3 are missing. north american leaders of held a summit for the 1st time in 5 years. you as president joe biden hosted mexico, others manuel lopez open at all. and canadas prime minister just intruder at the white house. those were headlines, more news on our 0 after the stream coming up next. china has been very strategic in the way it's expanding is sweet in indian ocean. what is it,
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and can we bring you the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world we live in without the international aid? what do you think is going to happen? the afghani colon counting the coast on al jazeera? i i as i me okay, you're watching the stream on today's episode. there are thousands of migrants on the board of belarus and poland. they're trying to get from belarus to the european union via poland, but the authorities in poland won't let them. he's what some my glance told out his area earlier yet another one a couple even if they give us money, we're not going to stay in poland. just opened the fence and we will not stay. the situation is real bad here we're cold. the fire is suffocating. us and we can't breathe. no one has come to speak with us about our situation. well,
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that not that much of the hot? yes i was there she toilet was there using pepper spray and water and tear gas against the children. is this the human rights of europe? 10 days we've been here without water temperatures or mine is 5. and what can we do? where are the human rights organizations? we were a good country. they invaded iraq in 2003. we've lost everything. we sold our cars and sold our houses. they've destroyed our country and now this is their human rights. none ledge. vienna martin, the live glom on in nevada. we haven't slept since yesterday. our feet are freezing and the only word we can hear is attention attention, and we have kids. we have wives and you know, if they don't want to allow us through than return us back to our country. we haven't eaten for 5 days. only a little foods available for women and kids. we need a safe place. we need to safe country humanitarian crisis just waiting there to happen. lydia lucas franak are on our panel today. thank you so much for joining us . lydia. please introduce yourself to the stream audience. tell them who you are and what you do. hi there, my name is lydia mentally do. i'm
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a reporter based in greece. i cover migration and refugees here in this country, but also in europe are more broadly anamosa fellow with the center for. if you do studies at york university in toronto, you get to have you. hello to you. lucas. thanks for being on the screen. please tell everybody who you are and she'll hear her luca sheesh. now i'm a spokesman of the polish far enough for mr. palmer to listen to the story. and finally phallic nice to have you on the stream introduce yourself to global audience. i am also a former journalist and i worked with fidelity and those killers and exiled the leader shoe on their elections and went advantage. but she was forced to leave her country because look at shanker, our dictator, brick the selections. all right, so good to have you all of you guess i'm gonna open up the conversation to our audience here watching on youtube. the comment session is right here. you have comments or questions for story that were taken straight out of the headlines.
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please let us know what they are and i will put them to the guess. we're going to start on youtube. this is such a story, a big story that we've got questions already. all right, so why are the migrate so motivated to cross into the european union? lydia, can you give us a perspective? this is something that you've been reporting on for quite a long time. yeah, so i right now i, i am back in greece, but a spent about a week on the poland. well, a reporter on the, on the polish side. and, and i think that i, you know, this, this question is key because despite all the difficulties, ah, that have been reported widely at this point. ah, for refugees to be able to actually cross into the you through beller ruse. you know, people were stuck for for weeks and some for for months, ah,
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in freezing temperatures with little food, with, with no water. ah, with that you know that without the basic get things that it, that you need to survive. essentially there have been several deaths reported i, i was just seeing a, a headline from the guardian right before coming on this panel about a one and a half year old or one year old from syria that is reported was reported dead. i was there with the baby, was there with their family and, and has just died. and so i, you know, despite all, all of, all of that up, people are still choosing to make the journey to, to the beller roost border to try to come into the you through men sc. and so i think, you know, i, at, i cannot lady about, i'm not catering, i'm not hearing why, let me share this with because because because opponent has been quite firm on this
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matter, they do not want these micros coming into poland. why do you think that even trying to get into permanent because we are in the country lying on the border of the okay . and you know, with the dictator who is a dictator in the bill or so, i mean that's polish, but it is a problem. firstly, i would like to come and one thing we hunt immigrants, but we want them if they would come to our country legally with the visa obtain, for example, in general, for office in the bill. and they will fly to our airport in warsaw or someone else . we are open for the new growth, but they need to conserve kind of legally. and we cannot lead any while to aggressively cross and legally cross our border. that's, that's a right of every state. and also those poor people are victims of the person who's victims are people like frolic and speak with the last guy. he treat them,
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he took their money, he organize transport for them to me. he told them lies that there will be a possibility of crossing the board. and also she used them as an instrument in his private water would be a union who told him year ago that he don't really go president of phillips. and that's the beginning of this problem, which makes this little different than other ways of the me grants. because let's say this direction through bill at the poland was organized visually, it's not the path of the me gross, which was to be honest as like years ago or a year ago through the military and c o. 2 at sonic pick up because that's quite an accusation that bello is, is deliberately enticing my glance to the broader to push them into the european union. can you repeat? yeah, this is for franak. he's good. he's going to pick up where he's going to pick up a new assessment of the situation that this is deliberately done by belo hispanic.
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sure, sure. i think the community in crisis we are seeing right now near polish boyer can not be separated from political crisis. and belarus, which started in 2020 or even more in the 19th when president lucas younger came to power, he destroyed the parliament, destroyed democracy. he became the or territorial type ruler without the parliament, without media. and for 27 years he was willing to con triple hated him. and in 2020, they a price against him. there were hundreds, thousands of people on the streets. he basically greg down on this protest who'd 35000 people in jails, including all presidential candidates. they were either jailed or pushed, forced to go in exile. and he started the terror in the country. poland and lithuania supported this movement, supported this democratic aspirations of the people and the right. now we are seeing the revenge and lucas champagne. taking the revenge against paula lithuania
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for their active brave position and to support bill. there was the mockery, the courses. and this is just the mean of blackmail over the weekend union to show them you see guys you dont like me, you don't recognize me and hear what they can do again. and we just bringing into our conversation the vice president of open dialogue foundation. he speaks directly to the point that you, you guess i'm making, which is my grants are being abused. let's take a look through limiting access to the press in civil society. the ruling party successfully spins and narrative fall from the situation being solely battle front with polish troops, guarding europe from a barbarian invasion. no one is doubting that location. co is using migrants to destabilize the you. but more of your skin coupling scheme or using them just us cynically for their own political interest. this crisis will continuum as long as
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the international community doesn't see through that. and instead of focusing just on the threat forces, poland, to respected the national law, and to help people instead of weapon ising them. just as the question is doing new cas, we have to comment. yeah, of course that's very accumulation bucks mostly look very much connected with the truth. international low is based on the treaties and the treaties include borders . defense of both. that is very important. both of the international treat international relations poll out respect when someone attacks your brother, no matter what he's, that's aggression, any right, which is important for a state to defend that book. that's the 1st, 2nd, a poland from the beginning of the end of august was open for any kind of humanitarian solution. in almost every week our government was offering,
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as you may go to the bill every such and just was refused by the russian state. also, when he said that both is a nice mystery shows, he said the both utilizing about killing people about the breaking into the shallow . let's say that's a very political gesture, which is where the nation is. but a good one. but to this presentation didn't play a very good role in describing, for example, at the beginning of the crisis that we're trying to destroy the fences. and, oh, boy, the instruments, it was done by the head of he's from nation. let's say they don't, they are not considered in poland as a, as a bundle for such discussion book. ok. the 3rd thing is i, the problem is of course, to make a good mandatory of 8 in poland and it still got government organizational cross
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reporting that her. but our border guard is not doing anything illegal or against international mr. mr. lucas, may i ask a question? please, i'm sorry, you're jump in bed. you know, you, you, you described this at the beginning of our conversation. what is happening, or that the people who are ending up at the borders as victims of, of a, a, a campaign that some sort of campaign on the ball, the russian side. i, regardless of what information there, you know that they're receiving, based on my reporting information that they will be able to, to come in to the you, if they travel through, through men scanned. and while i was there, i heard numerous accounts of people who do end up at the bell, russian border, and who do, who did manage to either make it through. i'm sorry that if you who did make it to the belgian border and did manage to make it through into poland,
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being essentially pink pond between the 2 sides. some people became so frustrated they, they, you know, wanted to, there are people who, who, who wanted to leave, but they were not able to leave because they were essentially held back by bell russian, a border guards they were forced to, they were, you know, i'm sure you've seen the reports, they were given clippers and all sorts of things to con nivia and says it's only is it what was your responsibility? yeah, but my question is, i mean in that get, given that reality what, what responsibility do you see as an e. u country, what kind of procedure have you offered to people i to be able to apply for asylum for people who are in, in this situation. people who describe being trapped essentially between these 2 borders and, and do you see a pole and a as a new country having a response there at least the same question is coming from new jersey as well to united way. asking alan, go ahead. lucas. really answer either. lydia,
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thank you very much for this. what did you say? what you said, there's a very important a 1st the, they're not truck between 2 borders, but there is a line and they are dropped on the territory of balance. most bellows is responsible for that faith week and only offered to monitor him up. secondly, air person will cross illegally polish brother cannot apply legally about any kind of us element, international or safety cheer, according to the polish international law. but if someone is in poland, he could be coped and supported by the military needs, which he secured. but still let us remember board there as close. thus at the city of the bullish state, every kind of crossing got this book, but it is illegal. when people who, who are described as a trap are on the territory of the bellows, we can only offer them humanitarian 8 if, alexander, gushing color. so look at it, do you mind if i, if a, if i may, i was watching on out is you are news children being blasted with water with pepper
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some kind of pebble irritant in it is, is that ok? because they didn't come to poland. i didn't try to come to poland legally. is that okay to do whatever you need to do in order to stop them? it's not as likely once is using children as their shields and is putting them 2 together with his parent, with their parents and with the settings. okay. to glass children no affect you. okay. and your you're comfortable with glancing children. no, we are uncomfortable with defending our part of their when someone attacks it including children. this and i jump can i jump in here? i say that the her, that her holland or is tune of what it can do and what most of the state school do they for, they were there so we can understand that, you know, let's not blame poland. let's blame that. those people who brought to these
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children this families, this migrants police situation because this people can not get back. they brought to the forest, they were given grenades, spam grenades, they were given this special clippers. there were a given storms, especially to attack the border. the coastal gush anchor wanted to divide the location. could just want this discussions like we have here right now, or should we accept this migrants or not dupel and respect him on the rights are not this exactly what the plan, what was the plan of lacresha and that to show like european union doesn't care about human rights, this is mike, he organized this hundreds of airplanes flying from middle east, bringing this people to the border and created this horrible images. this people are hostages, this people are victims of lucas shameka. definitely, i agree. but let's not blame paul, because basically bullet is also victim of the question because paul's, so we should find the solution. how to unite international efforts and stop lucas shenker use in children. let me just bring a, let me,
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let me bring english and less jenko into this conversation. because on november the 15th, he talked about the migrant situation in belarus, and this is what he sat move sure. dealing with the what's the with the like if you so just the oil stub with your life ship a point of view of referrals, not talk to in your life and we got over. oh pick it up which new deal. and it was a gesture from a lot from to see to live here correctly. so to abrupt the more, more at the newton oscar, such a new filter for nation will go with her next door was for a shuttle you hortshoi. if we're not unique with those rushes when, if near them julia, i need when the most with them mitchum the couldn't city. oh boy, the war and you have to post oper folks with the slow season so they can try and get into the you, you, if they can, if they can't get in the you, you were put them on planes. some a rack is a, have been picked up and taken home,
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a mishenko as they, they don't have a good place to go back to up, but front, using this is a, a problem that better is created itself. how do we get out of this? because they are dealing with a crazy man who is trying just to stay in power by all possible means in all that he calls myself like, you know, like i ran away of the country by myself and the same way he's calling and blame in . this migrates, you know, he, there are many of them sleeping in pants and men's downtown. and when few of them are trying to apply for asylum in means can billers, they were refused, then they went to one guy, was deported. this is the real attitude to this people, and i am really so sorry for them. and i am really sorry that human rights organization that supposed to help them were destroyed. 6 major human rights organizations where liquidated them in august. because before this organizations
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were helping refugees and the asylum seeker like this, this poor families. but right now we're, gosh, uncle doesn't want to help them. they doesn't lead them to stay here. they want to push them in the you, you doesn't let them go. and so there is, there is also the problem. you know, it's a, it's a fail made somehow. this is why we ask international community. the tory act, to stop look, or shank, at least to stop bringing you people to stop cheapened them of fallen them. they must know that the way through bill or was it, sir. it's her heartless game where they risk their lives. i want to bring in another voice and cousin and put this to you because a lot of our audience now is saying, so what is the potential solution? how? how does permanent get out of this? how do the, my goods gets away with it when they're safe and protected, et cetera. so let's start off with danny's festival. he's a journalist and a data analyst talking about how do the crisis and he'll, yes, it was should implement solutions against ocean,
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broad economic sanctions and if necessary, broad economics auctions should be implemented against coaching as well. equally important, it's so humane. this is there a people who freeze in altera into eastern board of the european union and dos people should be allowed in immediately and unconditionally. we can call ourselves humans. if we treat human beings as a means in the geopolitical game. the solution to this crisis is being taught with perpetrators, but be in kind to the victims of this crisis because i'm also saying on you gave a number of either a song, what can poland do? what is palin going today? there are things he has to do in that i think he wants to to 1st of course or so. then he is of course different bowden and close it to show to mr. cushion called
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that the kennel and chris european union. he kind of destroyed our safety and he cannot pull and use poor people as her instrument of his revenge from the european union. second think is of course, to internationalize this conflict, and he got full support of our partners and friends from the european union, among them, germany, i'm over in france, a united kingdom and us in defending that, the border and from ocean coast aggression. of course, there will be probably a necessity and there is such a decision made 4 days ago in brussel on the session of the council of the european foreign ministers about widening the sanctions against billows. probably those sanctions will blog flights and all those businessmen will support this luggage and co procedure and, but we've got also people there in bill. poland can of offer them on a human internally. as i said many times before hearing this,
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can you despite monetary an aid, please? because a while i was on the ground there, this was one of the major issues that humanitarian groups were not able to access the restricted i the restricted zone. and in addition to journalists and humanitarian groups, and we're not able to get anywhere near the, the, the restricted zones, not by anywhere. and it's going to dear friends, if they were allotted for my telescope, swear there, but we've got some legal problems. we've got marshall low on those, on those on in this regions and let's see command on is look kenneth golden without the permission of the author. it is much of many of those groups didn't ask for that. but still, you are focused on very small number of people who crossed than the board of the and are in the territory of poland. we still forget about the majority of the people who are suffering been thousands people who are on the territorial billups. attacking paula,
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we are forgetting couple of the real error people responsible for that situation. and poland can offer a humanitarian of 8 both to the people who are on the director of finance. but mostly it is. yeah. be useful. but them shit. put people out there. lydia, i want to say i own as my laptop because he said, i'll send pictures earlier and just talk us through what we're seeing here on my laptop. sat with this picture, i am sorry, i can actually see what you're showing right now, but i a suspected some of the pictures of the kind of an underground efforts that were a station in looks like bags of clothes and nappies, etc. yes. yes. and, and this is my, i was asking mr. lucas about the humanitarian aid. and i would love to hear about specific groups that were able to make it to the board and to provide assistance a should in our city centers with the uniforms of the polish border guards here in the global better. so
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based on my, based on my yeah, i mean, based on, based on my reporting, a lot of this humanitarian a did have to be a distributed through, you know, kind of underground a, you know, ad hoc networks. because there wasn't a system that allowed for that. and so locals would come together, gather donations, and then literally package them, leave them in the forest for people who managed to make it through. there was also a fire station leo, vote this for us. so since lucas and media you on, you're never going to agree. i feel like we can. you can also same question over and over again in video who get the same answer. and then you want to re asking, i'm going to leave and put a pause on that for now. i just want to move on with you front act. and this idea, this phrase of weapon ising migrants have been attached to the way that the chicago
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is dealing with this migrant crisis. just very briefly, do you see it that way too? and could, could the situation escalate into a conflict? i am really afraid and they every day think about this, how to do to not allow this tuition to escalate them to have a conflict because at some point so we sold the one bedrooms since forces were ready to use arms when they gave this grenades total yeah, migrants to this man, blake, throw a throw to the polish side. we were really afraid. so this is why right now we know we have to make sure there is no escalation, but it will be possible on 9 days from the question case complaint. thank you so much. franak lucas? lydia. i for your comments and questions about a story that is at the heart of the news right now. do you continue to formulate an outside dot com and on out a 0 english thanks for watching. i see next time. ah
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