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nicholas was president starts a 4th consecutive term after an election. the west called a sham critic, say, daniel ortega is a dictator, but his supporters reject this. so what's next? for one of the poorest nations in central america, this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim's room to some. daniel ortega is a dictator who is ruthlessly crushed all descent in nicaragua. he won a 4th stray term as president last november after jailing opposition, candidates and banning international observers and journalists from the country. but his supporters say he standing up to bullying from the west, the u. s. and e,
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you imposed new sanctions just before ortega was sworn and again on monday, most countries stayed away from the ceremony. but artega found support from russia . iran, venezuela, and china. nicaragua, recently switched diplomatic ties from taiwan to beijing. our latin america editor lucio newman reports. ah, this was daniela take us 4th consecutive swearing in ceremony flanked by his wife, reciting moody you his vice president. he bowed to improve conditions in nicaragua, the 2nd poor's country in the americas, after haiti read go home for me. so we are here again with a clean slate to build peace, to assure that nicaraguans have a dignified life to eradicate poverty in this country with sovereignty and freedom . the presidents of cuba and venezuela were there, and also delegations from iran, bolivia, russia, and china. but ortega was snubbed by almost every one else. november's
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presidential elections have been dismissed as illegitimate by much of the international community. the majority of ortega's competitors were imprisoned, so they could not run and thousands of others have gone into exile. and legitimacy is not an issue for ortega and he managed to essentially consummate. ah, he saw, she saw his plan to establish star. i'm a fool and classic latin american dictatorship in nicaragua, ours before the ceremony, the european union and the united states, and else new sanctions against high ranking, military and communications officials, as well as members of the ortega family, but exiled opponent, monica baltazar know, a former sandinista commander who once fought alongside, ortega with questions, their effectiveness. i will not go again as you know if they demonstrate that the international community relies as what's happening in nicaragua, and that's why it imposed the sanctions. they have a moral effect,
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a kind of consolation. but in practical terms, they'll have little impact one or take a celebrated his latest inauguration, some 170 political prisoners languished in what human rights advocates describe as cruel and to main conditions, et cetera. me. ringback one of them is lawyer rocket reyes, not very little black young and like guessing when coming or my husband is losing his memory and he's in a deep depression after spending more than a 100 days in a punishment. isolation cell that he can't remember the names or faces of our daughters goof when ortega made no mention of his pre election promised to initiate a dialogue with his political opponents. that may explain why most nicaraguans, whom al jazeera consulted about, you know, galatian preferred to say nothing at all. do. seeing newman al jazeera daniel ortega is now in the 15th year of his 2nd stand in office. it's immense. his
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4th term in a row, despite him leading an unpopular government, he came to power as a sandinista gorilla commander who helped overthrow a dictatorship and became president in 1985. in 1990 he lost violette such a moral, but returned to power in 2007 and has been president ever since. he consolidated his control using force to silence descent, while elevating his wife and loyalists to high positions. poverty, natural disasters, and the pandemic lead to a mass exodus of people from nicaragua to the border with united states over the past few years. ortega has been blamed for not doing enough to strengthen the economy. ah, all right, let's bring in our guests in the nicaraguan capital, managua danny shaw, professor of latin american and caribbean studies at city university of new york. in chicago. hiero lugo, a condo director of executive education and graduate studies at northwestern
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university in other and in washington, dc, michael shifter, president of inter american dialogue, a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining the program today. michael, let me start with you. so hours before nicaragua present, daniel ortega was inaugurated the u. s. and e u, imposed sanctions on members of his government who was targeted and how were they targeted? well, the, the, this has been a continuation of a policy of targeting officials of the government for, for human rights violations. as your set up report indicated that there are political prisoners and in nicaragua, substantial number for all the opposition candidates for november. elections are in jail and this is a highly repressive autocratic regime and so those. ready who have been responsible for those human rights violation senior
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officials and the government i have been sanction. so that is the policy to try to apply pressure by the united states and by the european european union against these officials. obviously there is a very, very serious human rights crisis in the garage where the likes of which latin america hasn't seen for many, many years. and so that has been the response. whether that changes to situation at all on the ground remains to be seen. but certainly there is, you know, there are those. ready who are responsible for this, for this terrible situation, and they've been sanction hiero, as michael was just mentioning, the international community has issued sanctions against or take us government in the past. were those sanctions in the past in any way effective? and do you think that these sanctions that were issued and just before the
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inauguration will be effected? well, i agree with r a b, you know, somebody who's b now a c. and nobody puts in prison every single pony, and it can run against him in a, an election because it can be call them. and that's precisely what he does. so now we'll say that they have different base base to lot of all that out across the regions like a rock or a c q was the economy. it has not gone back and to like, you know, make a standard that's actually good. and b, this has been a reduction in poverty. we can, the b is that it's 50 percent for the past 10 years now. but there
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happens to be a role in developing an interesting into now networks, for example, he now close relationships with taiwan and china established embassy there. that recently it was that came with a lot of a and r and commercial trade with china now buying locally. because troubles i've got, but still given them a release from us and you've been sponsors and the other base of power that has to come to get this is that see some issues with lucy because they have never relinquish the power in the are remember that even with one of the 1990
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a brother, k j b are courses and that powerful the family start all over the course has continued to go in same way that a lot with a strong hole which is why i don't think the sanctions are going to be got to pick . danny, are you her dumb hiero? they're talking about the alliances between present ortega and the venezuela president and the cuban president. the venezuelan president, the human president, they were both there at the inauguration show their support, china, russia, iran. they also st. delegations, there is a lot of talk right now about international isolation, but ortega still has support as well. correct greetings from mom and i will. we don't live in that same unipolar world of 1990 in 1991 with the collapse of the soviet union. nicaragua doesn't depend on the u. s. i think you are sanctions at
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this point in the intensification of, of sanctions are not going to be as cruel as they've been in the past against cuba against venezuela. because we now have this cleary polar world. we have china as a camp, russia as a diplomatic economic camp. the bull of aryan countries, we have things shifting to the left across south america and she lay in honduras in p 2. so i don't think that these blockades, one 4th of the world's people wake up every morning under us blockades, these blockades and not as effective as they were. for example, in 1091 in cuba with cuba was left with absolutely no other trading partners. michael, your secretary of state anthony blinkin, has said that the u. s. and its partners will deploy diplomatic and economic tools to support the restoration of democracy and respect for human rights in nicaragua. so i want to ask you, i mean, what else? as far as by the u. s. can be done at this point and what kind of pressure can be
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applied by the u. s. and by other countries to try to make a difference. well 1st let me say that i, i think that is very, very difficult, frankly. so this is a regime as your set of p showed that's quite intrenched. i, i agree with the analysis that, you know, rely on forces to put is a pillar of take a support. i think. i don't think he's popular. the polls the re, like the polls that i've seen shows that he has about 2025 percent of the nicaraguans who support him and, and venezuela. my daughter has about 1213 percent. mm hm. and the ties with, with the people's republic of china and broken with taiwan. he does rely on russia . but the fact of the matter is that, you know, the situation is deteriorating. you know, 170000 nicaraguans left in the last year about 80000 of those to the united states that unprecedented the going to costa rica. so people the fleeting, the regime,
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this is a widespread sense of fear and terror. and in that context, the tools available or not, you know, are not, are not great and sanctions. i don't disagree with what's been said that it's unclear how effective they're going to be, understand why the they're being the being invoked and applied. but you know, i'm certainly not confident that's good. that's going to make a change in ok. good behavior. but i think there has to be more, you know, i think international pressure is important. it's good. but we know from experience that international pressure is only successful to the extent that there's an internal national opposition force in nicaragua. and today that opposition forces largely in jail. the leaders are in jail are with no due process, with no serious charges with the justice system. that's completely controlled by
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the repressive regime. and so 1st of all, the need to be a regrouping of some sort of position forced internally. and the role that international external actors can play, i think is, is limited, but it can be helpful to that end. and so i think there needs to be implemented for, i think more can be done with the organization of american states that have been taught solutions. but i think this could be more in a pressure internally. and i just one other thing that i think is important that you mentioned honduras tundras will have a new government. ok. and that government i think, is going to be less supportive of ortega than the previous government, want a lender, a lender, and this. and that may affect my new grow, the ability to get funds and financing from the central american bank. it with the
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change in government hunters. so there are pressures, i think, from financial institutions in diplomatically that can make a difference. but i agree, it's extremely, extremely difficult. hiero, i saw you nodding along somewhat. michael was saying that when he was talking about that from his perspective, there needs to be some sort of regrouping when it comes to the opposition in nicaragua. so i want to ask you, if you think that's something that's possible, whether in the short term or the long term, this for those who still the same thing as for g or b, q and b or we've been review. it was an open and trying to put in election in any of these countries the government to anybody any. but now having said our own data is a different creature to do. and can i live in cuba in the sense that he does have a segment support he, you know, mike and i was mentioning he's, he's
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a support, a fax in the region. but having said that, there's no, there's no doubt 0. it's not true that if there was an open into bannon election or thing i would lose, which is why he put in prison. if for seen one of the person who could actually compete against him in the, in the, in the package and the phone shows is essential for say, how to work and people always like to see this miss. actually let's, let's not dismiss them. let's remember, the fans were able what were the tools that i needed to get rid of our gate system is are always principal to. ready the previous military intervention, nobody wants to. nobody wants to buy in this case, but there is the need for the international community to act quickly to
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counter a do nice is continue to be is finally, despite the fact that united states continues to be the main provider of we got our, i was not self sufficient, the latest report from united states to your department and highlights the fact that there is a record. please include pushy from the united states. great, great to, to me, got our in house in the previous year or so the united states actually will have an effect on the cut over. there's no doubt about and the question here is you can use the chinese, the really are too far away. i wrote this hiero, i'm, i'm, i'm sorry to interrupt. let me get back to you about that point that you're making about the other sanctions. well, in just a moment, cuz we are starting to run out of time. danny, let me ask you, you know,
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hi ro was just saying that if elections had been held properly, that present or take a would have lost. i want to ask you what your viewpoint is on that. how popular is ortega in nicaragua right now? and are there credible achievements that are being ignored by the international community? i feel like hiero in michael directly the conceptualized reset nicaraguan history, and over a century of nicaraguan history, the u. s. has done everything to intervene in nicaragua was the 1980s contra war. one of the great crimes of the 20th century, 2018 was the u. s. proxy war, who's an international as civil war? were bandits were terrorists with us backing? some are related to n g o that header, at least on the surface, an innocent appearance. they attacked and burn sandinista university's sandinista
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homes. so nick, that i was been under great duress. it's nick that i was right to protect itself through its armed forces through the police. against these would be cool mongers. they resisted a coin, 2018. integral continues to develop women's projects, present projects in i've been traveling, snickered i was says 2005 and i see something completely different than what hydro and michael have described. hi roy i saw you are reacting to what was being a se is basically saying that every single carrier position is a cia agent or something. and this is additional say that people say about this, that everybody is a member of a conspiracy. i'm absolutely aware of the story, you know, says walker invaded because you said you want to talk about in beijing about your situation. nobody wants a u. s. intervention, but it to know this candidates are members of the cia or warning against that.
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there was a way even left wing and the all him, chris, how can you explain that? i you say that one of the marcia in there, all of them are part of an individual a door. and maria, they is, was a terrorist and she bomb buildings and she had trucks of armed bandits. the u. s. would put those individuals in jail, or maybe they wouldn't because we have the case of january 6. but no people was allowed to lead a violent coup against a democratically elected. ready government, as we saw in 2018, but they resisted that roxy war michael, let me ask you at his inauguration, president ortega announced the nicaragua and china. i just signed a series of strategic agreements that would include officially incorporating nicaragua into beijing's global belt and wrote initiative as well as other trade programs. how much do you think that's going to help nicaragua, and how much does that concern the united states? well, the united states,
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obviously there are global tensions with china and i think china's an increasing influence and expansion in all of latin america is something that's certainly high on the agenda. political policy, gender in the united states. and united states has to be, you know, competitive with china and has to make a better offer than, than china. i just think that the prospects for economic development are not great, no matter who is involved in nicaragua, given that incredible deterioration in the country. if people are leaving in droves and it's, it's turned into a complete police state. this is not lethal, not break conditions for investment in economic prosperity. these are conditions for a country that's going to continue to decline economically socially. what people that want to leave economic opportunities and the like,
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i think the significance of the china shift is more geopolitical. and, you know, there could be major projects that, that china provides in nicaragua, like it's been in other countries. but this is no substitute for economic development, and if you're interested in social, economic development and the improvement of people's living standards, this is not a formula to do it. this is a police state, it's support, it's turned in to a prior. you may defend it, but it's, you know, on principle and the dignity of the nicaraguans, but the fact is they're the humanitarian conditions. there are very dire and are only likely to get worse, no matter what happened. so i think one has to focus on that and then a garage when people and they wouldn't be leaving in droves. why they are today if the warrant for the economic problems and the political repression. and people just being very, very frightened. danny looked to me like you were reacting some when michael was
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saying that when he was talking about the worsening humanitarian and economic crises going on in nicaragua, go ahead. whenever we talk about the subject of migration, you have to put it in its proper context. which essentially is of colonialism in new colonialism in the reality that the money in the north, it is worth more than the money here across central america in latin america. but i see that i would very different than the diatribes or the cost of the location that we hear from the new york times. the wall street journal, the cnn. in fox, i see a nick that i, when people continue to build an alternative system, an anti capitalist system. i see a nick that i will fortified every day by these new relationships with vietnam. china, russia no longer in the us control the world and realize it's unipolar. ready hedge a monic dreams because of this constantly growing unity among the blog hated states . we see iran trading with ben as well as well, of finding russia, russia,
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finding nichol. i went on in on a hiero. let me ask you. we've talked in this program about the countries that have taken a stance against present ortega, we've talked about the countries that are supporting them right now. are there other countries that are trying to make diplomatic inroads with ortega and trying to sway him in that way through diplomacy? yeah, be player here in the 1st one can actually have any over all has been and i you know, open now i'm anyways a, if he was going to go for the migration, i'm all in a position to do a very important role to play in 923, i got back to the table of news ish. i just want to make 2 additional points for what i've been, because here, 1st of all, the, the, the role of china. now,
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how to log singly. china could be a because the biggest i'm project is a 2nd. come out in the canal, only cut out would. you will unify the pacific in atlantic county. got our and the people who are less interested. you are the attorney because the already control the hire market, micro harrell i'm, i'm very sorry we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. but thanks so much. all of our guests. danny shaw, hydro logo, a condo, and michael shifter, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter, handle this at a j inside story from him, how much i'm drilled in the whole team here. bye for now. ah
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