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gape reality. what was going on in a while? i was told that you had called me all the time. i do not want them to die. in 1997. lona, a small town in arkansas was shaken by her rhetoric, news, 20 year old heat stocks. a former boy scout was arrested for the murder of his parents and sister. that wasn't the full story. something was left out. a secret that he thought on to for years would happy to hear. i'm a journalist, a father in
a former scout. all of these things have brought me here to lona to look for answers. this is christmas mind i want to. well, let's start with christmas anyway. that's what i with, you know, come back to addresses and we're going to pride this work center j o v c r he c b here. my mom was nearly 15. now that's what you call a christmas face. mm. room. these that's barbara law, had i to daddy sent you a shout. 5 years after this christmas dinner on the night of january 17th, 1997. jos talks his wife. barbara, and they're 18 year old daughter. heather, we're all shot dead. what i think joe love's barbara beyond belief,
i'm not so sure that he always knew how to express it. cow boar. oh, that may i said, joe and barbara had heather nathan a's in head. there were basically my kids because i don't have any. and he opened surprises that he was, he was one stop with like on christmas morning. i from the outside. they were very loving. give the kids anything that you think will help them be a better person. make sure you take them to church. try to live that life luba. a christian life is christmas buddy. everybody loved everybody else that day
. ah, this is what i thought. probably the rest of my life would be. and i can look at it was that was a smile on my face to say had what had a little bit of it. it was, it was wonderful. they were good people when god gave me a give 20. mm hm. what happened to this family? where does it start to fall apart? okay. this is what got the whole world in it, right. well, the baby picture feet that the teeth. that's her. yeah. move her he is and he's fine, right? she was definitely his protector. why did he need a protector?
i will apparently, he felt very threatened by his day because he wasn't going to be the perfect child heath did kid things and, and made good mistakes that were unacceptable to, to joe in the system here. i think so here he had some wiring dispelled. he was 88 j, so he's getting trouble at school, maybe not getting worked up. okay. who? because of this, this talk span. we looked for help elsewhere so they say he may be a responsible and yet, and jack is so what his steps as, as he can help him be more so yeah. if you can help him to learn to make it more responsible, they ask friends. oh yeah they yeah. he does a really good job with a boy scouts. by the time he was 8 years old. he was already in the scouts with the families. good friend jack walls had long been a volunteer the super no 3 the so yeah, the check was lou, that's
a trip. even jack was how magic. you know what i'm saying? i mean, he could sit here and talk to you and you would just even just think the world. i mean, he would just think of him, his own good parson. good man. good. a scout later. you know, jack's room and prominent family, everybody, drugs to the when their kids got in trouble or needed, they needed advice on how to manage him. they came to jack. he was the savior for heath he was the intervention that would help hayes become what john barber wanted him to be there say, or push learned that this car from yeah everybody everybody, nobody was like jack any time that people had called and people always
always hear that you could go to my most counseling. i'll hold them too. banding young me obviously could be brought out from the very beginning. he was go home or get me my father couldn't see jack was a beloved figure. not particularly for his volunteer work with the boy scouts of america, where he was a scout leader from the early seventies to the early ninety's. very nice came from an old family, a family of money, family of wealth. i owned a lot of property, a lot of land just good paper. just really good paper. this is father was a appointed judge. he had other relatives who were both
state supreme court judges and a federal judge. he was, i voted in as the man of the year he had a lot of poll when a best man of the year award went to charles jack was a 3rd who cited walls for his boy scout work. i had a lot of pictures of wade and now i had is a boy scout and eagle scout chart with everything. but this was the banner he was wearing the day he became a scab on eagle scout. and i, we were very proud of him and he was very proud of his up what he dont here's his
accomplishment. so was a good day. it was a very good day. karen knox and her family live next door to jack walls. who was related to them by marriage. her son joined us. uncle jack's voice got true. the same true proceed. oh, was wade, went to the scouts. ah, probably 67. why did wade become a scout of jack? but jack was his uncle. he encouraged it. i mean our cares when he had 3 daughters and we had 3 children. they were all about the same age. we went to the beach with them in the summer. we had family gatherings, you know, we just, it was just a normal as it conveying to a shack always a super yes. yes. when why was 5 being in education? i noticed there was things about why that just was it on up and he was
attention deficit. first fall, he was on medication and then he was diagnosed with dyslexia. so we know it's going to be hard. and then about the 3rd grade. things fell apart at school. why can no longer play sports and get along with anybody. he did not respect any authority. i mean, it was just constant turmoil with ham. why would get so upset that sometimes he would run away? run, and jack would smooth everything over. everything would be just fine. we live right across the street from jack. it was probably 50 faint. maybe there was always, always scouts over there. always scouts always boys because he was interesting. he was bon loan. ok. like in
towns and cities across the us children joined the boy scouts torn out door and leadership skills a good day. you had to do was, was, was happening on the walls on. that's where it had been in the early ninety's jack walls. what else camp outs on the family farm with a scouting trip. what was your early impression of jack was he was really involved in scouts and, and love the program. my
brothers were both and boy scouts and i started as a cub scout and worked my way up. what would you like about it? what you learned from give me a skill set to make me a more well rounded boy, to be more prepared to go out and be independent to be the best you can be. whether you're in a group setting or individually tend to be trustworthy, loyal and honest. and helpful, friendly and courteous and kind. i mean, all the principals of the school but when jack cross that threshold, it changed everything for me. in 1992, 4 years before the stocks murders doug was invited to join a camp out led by jack walls. didn't tell me about that day,
how that went down. so we had this camp out to get to know every one. and we went out there that night. now i'm going to 16 and i'm going as one of the leaders scouts i'm, i'm going to be in charge of a group of boys will be helping jack with that. and that's why was there for us to get to know the kids that i would be going with get know their personalities. well, supposedly there was that there was no organization like a normal boy scouting event. he offered alcohol to me at 1 point one. he did this several times that night and he started tell him boys to go to bed that night. and that struck me as odd. you're saying he had a plan here and another boy picked up on it. he excused himself and said he was going to bed, which left me at the camp fire with jack. and jack started the conversation off
with who i was dating, how far we'd gone, what we'd done. but then it started taking a different tone of, whoa, do you want to do this? i can help you with this, or who are you thinking about? deny. and he said light down, take, take load off, you know? and i he, i, he came and lay down with his feet in my head and kept the conversation going, but kept in a sexual tongue. and it bothered me. but when he put his hands on me, he reached for my bell, started trying to buckle my pants and just holding no. so i'm not into that's not my thing. and he tried to play it off for a few seconds and i don't remember exactly what he said, but he was brazen enough to say what, how about you do me?
and i said no. and i got up and i left, i went to the truck and i told my friend that was with me. and he didn't seem shocked at all. i got home and my dad noticed my attitude and my demeanor and asked me to sit down and are doing. so i sat down and he said what's going on? and i said, i can't tell you. and he said why? and i said, i will tell you if you will make me a promise. and he said, what's that? i said you have to promise me that you won't do anything to go to jack. he said, just tell me. i can't do it without your word. i need you to promise me, you won't do anything to go to j. a said, okay,
you my word and i told him what happened. my dad said, i'm glad you made me like that. promise is otherwise i would have reacted. and then what's your dad? he called jack up, he told jack in a very colorful way, that he would step down thing with scouts he would resign and not have anything to do with boy scouts over again. and if he did this, he wouldn't press charges. jack was wrote a letter to duck's father cletus knowledge and he did something wrong that night and he says there's a great amount of trust placed in the man who worked for young people as i did not violated it. he apologized and assured doug's father that he would step down from the boy scouts. that's not what happened. 2 my dad did report him to the local council office and they made him eligible with that because of the accusation. your dad reports them to the boys. girls these put on the list. but
then that's not enough. he decides to press charges. so my dad went to the chief of police we wanted a public admission of guilt. it was never about the money. after that, jack was was charged with delinquency of a minor and assault. he was put on trial in 1994. ringback ringback but it meant the hogans would be going up against for more than just one man. to let alone, oak is so caught up in all of the the worst tales. you can read that, you know, from southern literature of interlinks between families and who's rich and who's got the money and who's got the power. and this person is connected to this person who's connected to that. we're at, you know, oh everybody stand everybody. and you had to be careful
what you said. oh, what did you think of doug hogan at the time of the trial? i thought it was a farce. now this is coming from jack. though he is out to get money, he was asked to get money from the walls this that's why we were told that we didn't know. doug hogan is all i know is what i was told and that's why i believe we as a family, went to court to testify with jack. and i was on the witness day and i said this just came bay. it cannot bay, they were politicians there. his knees, dad had brought ala state politicians, ian you. now, of course, that little boy, a was proven that jack was now jack came out, look like a site that day and wages the good will aid that that child would say something
like that. we just couldn't believe it. several jack scouts also supported him during the trial. i will jack in the head. i've never seen dad doing any of my attorney warned me that oftentimes in these type of cases that the victim is put on trial, that their character and integrity and things from their past are brought in to explain that they're not honest, that they're, they're the bad person and the victim is blind for what happens instead of the perpetrator, who actually did something wrong. i had people leave notes in my locker at school that knew nothing about more scouts and what had gone on. they called me fag homo, queer bay, i mean, these are boys that had nothing to do with scouts,
but the, the stigma of, of what had happened. that it was at the time abusive, but it was gay bashing. i was queer bay and they picked on me about it, but they never directly did it to my face. it was always behind my back or in subtle ways, leaving notes or things. what picture did they pain of him on, on, on the stand. he was a good, honest man from lona that went to church and was a good leader. and they, they couldn't see him ever participating in something that i was accusing him of. and i was the one that was perverted dirty and creating this situation so that my family consume his family. and in that case, who prevails in the criminal case, jagged in it was acquitted of all charges. did it actually go into court 2
different times, but it only go for the global? no, it was settled out of court. and so why scouts couldn't have it go to trial. and for legal reasons, i'm limited as to what i can say about the civil case. why are you limited? because assigned a non disclosure agreement. at 16 your his whole with the boy scouts of americans at walls in jack walls lost his registration with the boy scouts of america. shortly after doug's father reported him to the local school council. there filed the walls, mix it clear why it lists the details of dogs allegations the boy scouts became responsible the minute they knew what and who
jack was. we didn't hear anything about the scouts not approving them, jack any more, waiting. no. anything about that. the only sad way are was jack how did he continue to lead scouting events after he lost that registration? he shouldn't have been involved in scouting at all. and they were okay with hanging jack out to draw, but they had to protect him at the same time because to completely expose him or let him be exposed. would mean they would have to admit that he was doing this within their organization and they just couldn't allow that. it was all about image marketing. we're safe, we're good. we're wholesome. nothing to say here. they wanted to keep their brian not, it wasn't about safety. the safety of children, it was about keeping
a clean reputation and image for their organization so that more boys would come no, i think that case just left me disappointed that there was no justice in the world . that regardless of how much truth at home and how much i tried to expose jack for who he really was. people are manipulative and it's a manipulative system. and i didn't realize the system that i was fighting. i was fighting a prominent family. i'm fighting an entire national organization there. they're gonna, they're going to make sure they've got a really solid story before they walk into that courtroom. where all i had to give was the truth is a 16 year old kid man was one incident, one,
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