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live france. >> the four jews gunned down in a supermarket. we'll take you live to jerusalem. in other news incredible reversal of fortune for hosni mubarak. he may be releaseed from detention after a court overturns a ruling. how the aircraft manufacturers are tapping the problem of finding black boxes. we heard indonesian officials recovered the black box. now, airbus says they will fit their jets with ejectable floating black boxes. stay tuned as we look at locating them on crashed aircraft.
welcome to gmt, it's 1:00 in france and 2:00 p.m. in israel where moreial services have been held for victims in the shootings in france. in paris, president hollande honored the three police officers killed by islamist militants. the three, one black, one white and one arab represented the diversity of paris. meanwhile, the four jewish if i gets killed in a kosher supermarket had been laid to rest. families asked for them to be buried in israel. let's take you to our correspondents who have been watching the events. hugh is live for us. what a mood an atmosphere seemed to be at the ceremony today. incredibly somber. it seems fitting they were given the legion of honor.
>> reporter: very somber very very dignified, all the trappings of a major, sort of event. almost as in a war. at the beginning of his address, president hollande made an illusion to all the things that happened in that building linking what's happening today with conflicts in the past and really putting it up there with the key moments in french history. that is very very dignified as dress, which he alluded to the very personal stories of the three officers and drawing a kind of yes, a message, a model, an example to all the nation. they were from three different backgrounds and very ordinary lives. they were typical police officers. let's hear a little bit about what president hollande had to say. >> translator: paid with his life and engagement.
a french with muslim conviction was proud to represent french police. the values of the republic. the secretaryism that all faiths are respected, all religions protected. all religions were there, whether they believe or not, they should live together. always a victim. more than anybody else that islamist radicalisms have nothing to do with islam and it kills muslims. >> francois hollande there. if we can go to you in israel. the four jewish victims killed at the kosher supermarket. their families asked for them to be buried in israel.
what is the feeling there? was the ceremony well attended? >> reporter: there was a large crowd here a short time ago. then a few minutes ago, ambulances took the four bodies away to their final resting places here in the cemetery and the crowds followed them there. these bodies had been flown into israel only this morning from france. as you mentioned, none of the men were israeli citizens but the french families all requested that their loved ones be laid to rest here and that's been seen as a sign of just how much insecurity there is now in the french/jewish community. many people i spoke to who traveled to israel for the funeral spoke of their terrible sadness, but also their fears for the future. there were two brothers here friends of one of the dead men, a man in his 60s, a father of two who was retired, who was killed just while he stopped to
pick up something from the supermarket for the jewish sabbath that was a few hours away when the hostage drama unfolded last friday. they thought their children would not grow up in france, they feared they would move to israel, the u.s. or canada. >> if i can return to you in paris, hugh the first assembly. are we expecting any further anti-terrorism measures to be announced? >> reporter: i don't think we should expect anything dramatic. we have calmed down. the reality is it's not clear what path france should take. there's no easy answer to this. there are issues that need to be addressed. the idea of being a quick, in the moment fix to all of this i
don't believe it's in anyone's minds. you can see there are big problems that the tackling of the prisons is one of them. the radicalization of hoodlums in jihadi is one and the glaring of shortcomings of intelligence services in tracking coulibaly and the kouachi brothers. these things need to be addressed and maybe an announcement of extra means. i think whatever comes out of this in the way of a new organization or new laws even will take some time before they are announced. >> just returning to you, the israeli president spoke at the ceremony and said it was unacceptable that jews were living in fear in europe. is that the sentiment across israel that actually they want to open their arms to european
jews and say please move to israel if that is what you would like to do? >> reporter: the israeli policy to encourage jews to move here to israel to see it as their natural homeland and a place where they can be secure and very controversially netanyahu, when he went to france stood alongside president francois hollande and extended his invitation to make the move permanently to israel. we had figures published which show 7,000 french jews did move here. france was the number one country of origin for people moving to israel in 2014 for the first time. we have had israeli officials saying that they expect this year the number to be much higher, exceeding 10,000. >> thanks so much for joining
us. the french graphic designer trapped during last week's siege has spoken about his ordeal. for eight hours, he hid under the sink while the brothers cherif and said held people hostage. he described what he heard while he was cramped inside his hiding spot, a breath away from the killers. >> translator: one of them came and opened the cup board inside then he went toward the fridge. he asked if they wanted to drink something. he said no this isn't a time for that. >> translator: at the time he opens the door next to you, he's 50 centimeters from you? >> translator: he's at 50 centimeters. i thought he would look at all the furniture, necessarily, if
he's looking for something, food supplies or i don't know what. they look through all the cupboards. they went to the fridge and comes back to where i am hidden. he drinks water just over my head. he was drinking just above me. i could hear water flowing over my head. my head is next to the water basin. i can see a shadow. i move a little bit. my back is stuck against the pipe, which is leaking. i feel water flowing. surreal moment. i said it's like in a film. the brain stops thinking. the heart stops breathing, breath is stopped and you wait. at some point, i said i should go for it even if it makes noise. phones were ringing here and there. the noisy moments allowed me to move. that was covering my noise. i was saying that to give me hope. after some time after 15
minutes, i was able to reach my mobile fine. i was in contact with the outside world. everything was done between mine and my mother's mobile phone. >> i was able to inform them give them information using my ears and my feelings. >> story there. stay with us on gmt. you heard them mentioning the record number of french jews moving to israel. we are going to discuss the fear many jews feel in france later in the program. stay with us for that. now, other news. one person died, dozens injured after a smoke-filled subway in washington, d.c. during monday's rush hour. hundreds had to be evacuated in the center of the u.s. capitol. investigation is under way to find out what caused the smoke. u.s. secretary of state,
john kerry praised the pakistani military against mill tanlts in the northwest country. speaking on a visit to islamabad he said more work needs to be done. mr. kerry urged india and pakistan to return to peace talks to strengthen stability in the region. the italian president is due to step down later. that opens up the political process to name a new head of state. last month, the 89-year-old announced he would leave office early because of his age and health. naming a new president is expected to begin by the end of january. now, to a remarkable turn of events in egypt's highest court. a judge overturned the convict of the former president, hosni mubarak and ordered a retrial. this was the only case keeping him in custody. our correspondent was there. >> reporter: this ruling is
another legal victory for egypt's former president, hosni mubarak. his conviction for embezzlement has been set aside. he was sentenced last may with his two sons convicted of embezzling funds allocated for the republican novation of presidential palaces. he was given a three-year sentence at that time. today in court, when the ruling was announced, supporters were jub jubilant. they were holding posters of the former president in his younger day. for now, the former president has been serving his sentence on the banks of the nile. his lawyer told bbc after the hearing, when asked if mr. mubarak would be released he said god willing, god willing. no further detail has been provided. there was a report suggesting that the family would not try to have him released because they
were concerned about providing security for him in a private residence. certainly, the way is now open for hosni mubarak to be a free man. in this divided nation it's likely to provoke a reaction. let's have a look at the key twists and turns in the trial of hosni mubarak. the legal cases began after stepping down as egypt's president back in february 2011. during the following year he was found guilty of involvement of killing protesters and given a life sentence. at the same time he was acquitted of corruption charges. january, 2013 a retrial on appeal. a judge ordered the retrial of the corruption charges. he was then found guilty in may, 2014. in november the judge dropped the case relating to the killing of protesters. hosni mubarak waves to supporters as he leaves the court on a stretcher.
this is quite an incredible turn of events isn't it? what does this moment if he does walk free so to speak, what would that moment represent to egyptians? >> depends on who you are asking. he still has some supporters who believe in his innocence. but, at the same time you have large segment of the society that will be furious about this and remembering the scenes in tahrir square in 2011 when he was overturned and the scenes of him wheeled in to the trial for the first time. even after his first two convictions, now, all of these convictions have been overturned. he may go through a retrial, we don't know yet. but, for the time being, according to his lawyer who told us awhile ago that he will argue for him to walk free. >> what state is the judicial system in right now in egypt? >> well if you look at the trial of hosni mubarak, it was
long and con long. a lot of politicizing in it. on one hand the families of the people who died in the revolution and people who were present at tahrir scare who were arguing strongly about the need for him to get to conviction. but, at the same time you were finding his lawyers and defense team and supporters bringing up all sorts of technicalities and arguments. >> just looking again at these incredible pictures we remember the scene at tahrir square in 2011 do you think the people will come out again to protest? what is the feeling about some of the rights that were won by people and how they are being eroded in egypt now. people feeling this is something they could do again. >> again, you can find the
split. you find people who would be absolutely furious about this. there may well be forms of protests and demonstrations but, at the same time there are people saying the country has gone through four years of turmoil. a lot of people are yearning for stability. the economy deteriorated heavily and people want to regain this kind of sense of stability. >> has he brought that to the country? have we seen the economy improve or stabilize? >> well when the president took reigns in egypt, the economy was in tatters. he got huge amount of financial support from countries especially saudi arabia the uae and kuwait. billions of dollars pumped into the government which stabilized
it a little bit. this is where people are seeing the results of you know the so-called or the perceived stability. >> thank you for joining us. we will follow the fortunes of mubarak. still unclear whether, in fact, he will leave the military hospital at some time today. we'll keep that for you here on "bbc world news." please stay with us. still to come the pope arrives in sri lanka calling for reconciliation and respect.
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we have more from jakarta. >> reporter: indonesia's transport minister looking for the recovered wreckage of the crashed airasia plane. the second black box was retrieved. the cockpit voice recorder contains vital information. this is a major breakthrough for indonesia. officials have found two vital parts of the wreckage that will piece together the crash. on monday the flight data recorder was retrieved from the depths of the java sea. both boxes will be sent to labs in indonesia for analysis. international investigators will also be pitching in. >> translator: the black box will be saved and people not allowed to enter unless assigned by the investigating team.
the black box will remain in the container until we have agreed on the standard procedure to open it. >> reporter: the crash cast an ugly shadow on indonesia's growing airline industry. >> translator: the ministry and the investigator must be open with the result on what went wrong. was it human error or other problems. it must be open to all. >> translator: first of all, security and safety as well as other aviation regulations must be enhanced. among the pilots retrained with an emphasis on safety. >> reporter: it's now been more than two weeks since the airasia plane plunged into the java sea killing all 162 people on board. the discovery of the black boxes will be a welcome development for relatives waiting for answers on why the plane crashed and provide closure for grieving families.
bbc news jakarta. pope francis is in sri lanka on a six-day tour of asia. speaking shortly after arriving the pope called for reconciliation between the majority and the minority. he said the nation could not fully heal without seeing the truth. our correspondent reports from the sri lanka capitol. >> reporter: after a long flight, pope francis arrived to sunshine and a warm greeting on the tarmac from sri lanka's new president. >> your holiness -- peace and friendship among our people after overcoming -- we are people who -- based on our --
>> reporter: this is a nation that wants the future to be a harmonious one after a conflict that ended five years ago. for this audience the pope chose to speak in english about the need to pursue the truth of what happened dur thag war. >> the process of healing needs to include -- not for the sake of opening all wounds but as necessary means of promoting justice, healing and unity. >> reporter: as the pope arrived, he said it was no easy task to overcome the trust. it could be done by cultivating reconciliation solidarity and peace.
the pope's route was lined with enthusiastic crowds many traveled miles to see him, calling it a once in a lifetime opportunity. >> i think it's a miracle. it's very happy. i go -- i can't imagine that -- no words to say about that. >> from the pope visit, we got a blessed. we hope we can have our problem solved this year. >> reporter: catholics make up less than 10% of the population they include majority and minority. today, with a visit of this pope, there is fresh hope after years of dispair that all can live in peace. bbc news columbo. a man has been arrested after trying to smuggle 94 iphones into mainland china. he attempted to do it by taping all the phones to his body. according to these photos shared
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interviews cherif kouachi years ago. >> the dark web. many of us don't use it or know how to get to it but it is a breeding ground to the criminal underworld. we are going to look at the case of a man who set up one of the largest in this very very dark place on the internet. welcome back. france's jewish community is outside schools and places of worship. the number of anti-se mettic instances doubled. in 2012 murdered seven people there. we have the report now. >> reporter: it's not just
schools under heavy police and military protection. this cultural center was fire bombed last july and now has police officers outside and inside. the people who use the center are scared. >> it's like an earthquake. there's always the possibility of replica and -- coordinated one like was in paris, but, a lot of people can take those guys. >> reporter: in march 2012 this jewish school was targeted by a french born fanatic trained to use weapons first in afghanistan. he killed seven people in all, including four at this school. he was buried by friends and
members of the community. it's people like this who are giving the french intelligence services cold sweats working out if any others are out there prepared to commit similar atrocities. after what happened in paris, clearly many lessons haven't been learned from the shootings three years ago and another attack could occur at anytime. >> translator: at any moment we have to expect some sort of attack and be ready and able in large numbers and well armed. at the same time, highly individual lent. ♪ . >> reporter: a vigil was held in this synagogue to remember the victims of the attacks in paris. the fourth biggest jewish community in france. it's getting smaller fast. even before the events in paris, several hundred left france last year. many here were considering
leaving, too. bbc news. with me here in the studio is a professor of international studies. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> 6,000 or 7,000 jewish moved to israel. the center of tel-aviv seems safer to them. >> it's part of a continuing of the last few years. french jews have felt fearful. in july 2004 the then prime minister of israel ordered french jews to leave. this is not a new thing. it's not something that happened in january, 2015. 1% of all french jews immigrated to israel last year and probably more from places like britain, united states, australia, et cetera. there is a climate of fear there. and, although israel clearly is
in a difficult position being a long going conflict with palestinians it's certainly safer for many jews than other places in europe. >> when you hear french jews, particularly speaking of ordinary life they talk of an ongoing sense of individual lens. mothers not wanting their children speaking hebrew in public. many people simply exhausted as well. they have to be watchful all the time. >> i think this is part of jewish history. jews have to be vigilant and watch for and you don't know what tomorrow will bridge. in certain parts of london it would be injudicious to wear a skull cap, particularly in areas where jews would not particularly be welcome. >> we have had the french
authorities announce 5,000 extra troops and soldiers to protect french jewish schools. president hollande also said that france i think he said france without jews is not france. those words, those measures reassuring? >> i think so. french liberation liberated jus from ghettos and allowed them to move into french society. so france and the legacy of 1793 has a great resonance for french jews. therefore, many will leave the country, others will wish to stay because it is a sense of jewish history and they shouldn't be pushed about, pushed around. they have rights as french jews as well as the citizens of france. >> as we seeing live pictures from jerusalem, the cemetery there as the four jews who were killed in the kosher supermarket
are now being buryied. israeli citizens asked they be buried there. >> the point is these people were killed while shopping in a kosher supermarket friday morning before the jewish sabbath sabbath. they were jewish jews, not assimilated or cultured ones. therefore, it's a short step to say that israel would be part of their identity anyway. it's this reason they are being buried in israel. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us. >> my pleasure. people are now determined to prevent such attacks happening again. the big question is how to stop young muslims from being radicalized in the first place. in the reports from paris, they are trying to understand what led to last week's shootings.
cherif kouachi once had different dreams. a young rapper more interested in going out with girls than to the mosque. when and why did he turn? a decade ago as his story began to emerge it was captured by french film makers focusing on a neighborhood where young men were being radicalized. no one imagined they would turn against their own country. >> i was totally shocked. i never expected in 2005 this young guy will be able to do that ten years after. you know it's incredible for me. first, in this time he was less dangerous, he was younger. he was naturally convinced of what he was doing. >> reporter: cherif and his older brother said sons of immigrants were orphaned at a young age. they grew up at a center for
vulnerable youngsters. cherif hoped to be an engineer. there was some training but not much success or sense of place or purpose. this peaceful park in the neighborhood changed that. it's here that the process of radicalization seems to have begun. about a decade ago, a group of young, muslim men would meet for jogging and sports. they were meeting with a self-taught radical cleric an linked to a nearby mosque. plans being laid to recruit young men to fight against american troops in iraq. this was the mentor a janitor in his 20s whose real interest was jihad. some jogging and weapons training didn't amount to much. but the newspaper called it the first school for jihad.
this group became known by security services as the buttes network. this was the leader. farid. he met cherif in 2004 at the local mosque. one year later kouachi was part of the network. then during his time in prison he met amedy coulibaly serving time for armed robbery. in prison they met another key figure in their radicalization. he's a french algerian jihadist jailed in 200 1 for a planned attack on the u.s. embassy in paris. during the charlie hebdo attack they say they are part of an al qaeda network or aqap.
in 2009 said traveled to yemen to receive training. he met the charismatic cleric anwr. he was leading then. he was later killed in an american drone strike and called for attacks against western targets, that included the killing of cartoonists who insult the profit mohammad. it was the relationship that brought the kouachi brothers under the radar of the french services after they were released from prison. the surveillance video shows they regularly met in the south of the france. he was widely connected, considered a main recruiter in al qaeda and yup. he spent time in london. when a trail of suspicious activity by the kouachi brothers seemed to tail off, so six months ago, did the
surveillance. why? >> it's very simple. it's because there are many more people like him than there are resources. you know it takes 20 to 30 police officers to track a suspect 24/7. in france you probably have hundreds of people like kouachi. >> reporter: then france was shaken by the worst atrocity in half a century. the masters were both al qaeda and yemen and the islamic state group. >> we don't have evidence of specific top down management from yemen and syria. to me it looks more like these are plots that were developed here in paris by the perpetrators themselves independently and then claimed in the name of those organizations. >> reporter: is it unusual for
prerp perpetrators in the name of two different groups? >> that is unusual. i have never seen it before. >> reporter: until france the focus was on western jihadis going to fight. >> we had syria and iraq burning. as long as syria and iraq will be burning, this will cause a stress to all of us because there are, well terrible recruiting tools for terrorists. >> reporter: three armed and angry men shocked the world. many more may lie in wait. >> reporting from paris. stay with us on "gmt." plus we'll find out why this
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i'm lucy hockings. the top stories this hour. the three police officers killed in the paris attacks have been given the country's highest award, the legion of honor. israel funerals have been held for the jewish victims in the kosher store. erin joins us now with business. it's a challenge. how do you recover the all-important black box. >> we have seen several. we have to go back to 2009. the air france tragedy over the atlantic. two years to find that one. two weeks for the airasia one.
thanks very much lucy. 2014. needless to say, was tough. devastating year really for the aviation industry. earlier today, i mentioned divers retrieved the last one of the cockpit voice recorder from the airasia plane that crashed into the sea more than two weeks ago. they have announced they are working on ejectable black boxes that can float, allowing them to be recovered more easily. they told me more about the idea earlier. listen to this. >> i don't know about the black box that is recording everything that's going on in the airplane before the accident or incident occurs. unfortunately, if the airplane goes down it goes down with the wreckage. it's very hard to damage but the fact is if you are in two or three miles deep ocean, it's going to be at the bottom of two to three miles of water and you have to find it. we have come up with an idea we
think all airlines should adopt, which takes the black box. when the airplane gets into a critical situation outside the flight envelope it will eject the black box, recording everything that happened such that it floats to the surface of the ocean, very easy to recover. it's very important for the interest of safety we do recover it to find out what happened what were the pilots doing and what was the weather doing, the position of the controls the power settings et cetera. >> given the incredible amount of technology on board the jets like the one behind you, when an airline has an incident or crash, is it not archaic that we are talking about having to find a little box? i wonder why your planes or boeings don't feed that black box data live. the technology exists. i mean the planes already talk to the ground during flight. why aren't we looking at that? >> we could look at that as
well. there is an enormous amount of data flowing through all the airplanes around the world. you don't want to be recording in realtime everything happening on every airplane. you bring up a good point. when the airplane is getting into a critical situation, key parts of what the black box is recording could be bounced off satellite and recorded elsewhere. we think that would be a good idea as well. you really need all that data and the idea of ejecting the black box with its reams and reams of data telling every detail about what's happening to the airplane, what's happening to every instrument on the airplane, what's happening to the position of all the controls, the power settings what the pilots are saying that is essential to really understand what happens when you have an accident. so we would actually recommend that first, but there's nothing wrong with also transmitting data, if that would help. >> those airbus developments for
you. the man accused of running the silk road. the internet's biggest illegal marketplace is about to get his day in court. they are sure to reveal more of the dark corners of the so-called dark net. the case will set an important precedence on surveillance on the internet. russ ulbricht is a 30-year-old texan, the master mind of the illegal website running it under dread pirate roberts. it launched in 2011 as an underground online forum and grew into a marketplace where users anonymously could buy anything from falsified identification documents to drugs and guns. everything on silk road was using bit coin. the controversial currency that allows for anonymous transactions. the site made $18 million before
it was shut down in 2013 and russ was arrested. ian, great to have you with us. i mentioned in my headlines, most of us don't use this dark part of the web. most of us don't know how to get to it i guess. how does it operate and do we know how this silk road operated? >> you are right. most of us when we want to buy something on the internet we go to amazon or ebay rather than something called the silk road. as you said earlier, it's an online marketplace but a difference to the sites we buy. it's allegedly anonymous and uses the onion rooter t.o.r. which, was ironically developed by the u.s. navy many years ago but can also support anonymous
transactions over the internet. it does that by encrypting traffic and relaying it among thousands of computers all over the world. it's difficult to track what individuals are doing. if you are planning to buy something which is illegal or offer an illegal service, that makes it very attractive. we have seen huge growth in services like the silk road and other marketplaces like it over the past few years. >> yeah i'm curious about deliveries. how do they do deliveries? is there a -- is the problem here that look we don't know enough? the authorities don't know enough about this very dark place on the internet? >> yeah. essentially, that's right. supposedly the authorities managed to hack into this network, the t.o.r. network and, in fact, the reason they caught
mr. ulbricht is pretty basic mistakes he made using his real name for some transactions and hiring a contract killer. so you know they didn't actually hack into the network. you are right. this is a real challenge for the authorities. the last few days have shown us how much of an issue that is. >> in a few seconds, if this man is sentences and could be sentenced to life that is a de deterrent deterrent, i imagine. >> the silk road was shut down but many networks are up and running with tens of thousands of users. >> great stuff. we appreciate your stuff. ian morris joining us there. a lot going on. tweet me i'll tweet you back. more later on. >> thanks so much. people in china are used to being told.
one recent act of sensorship is seen as a front. the country east drama has been ed edited to remove necklines. >> the plot lines and the all-star cast that made "the empress of china yts an overnight success. but the costumes? well, they might have helped a bit, too. until, that is the series mysteriously disappeared from chinese tv screens. four days later, though it was back but with almost every scene reframed cropped. an anti-cleavage campaign. chinese tv schedules are full of period dramas precisely because they are considered id logically
safe in a nation that is used to the harsh realities of political sensorship. it's clear this is considered a cut too far and it's being widely ridiculed online. china's army of internet users have been suggesting other subjects that might be right for reframing from the since to vladimir putin in a mass mocking of the communist party senses. >> i hope the administrators realize they are making a fool of themselves. the dangers they may be too distracted from the public to realize that. the way they do things create a lot of things in the people. as i said people feel like they are treated as children. >> reporter: china's massive movie and tv industry it's a worrying sight that the government is imposing stricter
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