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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern, this is outside source. the widow of a dead american soldier says president trump couldn't remember her husband's name when he phoned to offer condolences — donald trump disputes the account. come makes me angry because of his tone of voice and he couldn't remember my husband's name. —— tone of voice and he couldn't remember my husband's name. "m made me angry. bangladesh tells the un it now hosts nearly1 million rohingya refugees — and says the wave of migrants from myanmar shows no signs of stopping. we have the extraordinary story of an fbi agent who infiltrated an al-qaida—linked cell to prevent the bombing of a new york railway line. what might you are very welcome to outside source. ——
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what might you are very welcome to outside source. -- you are very welcome... top us general, general dunford, says the families of soldiers killed in knee share our owed an explanation of what happened. let's listen. —— niger. explanation of what happened. let's listen. -- niger. we have the first indicated that the unit called for external support. it was an hour later. the information i am providing today is the complete information i have available. we may well find out. this is the difficulty in addressing these before the investigation is complete. tell you what, one push i would —— one thing i would push back on is, i am would —— one thing i would push back on is, iam not would —— one thing i would push back on is, i am not putting pressure on that unit. i make nojudgment on how
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long it took them to ask for support. i don't know if they needed support. i don't know if they needed support prior to that, how the attack unfolded, what their initial assessment was of what they confronted, but i do know that the logs indicate that an hour after the contact, approximately, they requested support. that is general dunford. let's bring in laura. how significant is it that general dunford has spoken out in this way? very significant because what we're seeing the wake of the last week and of the controversy now, especially after the widow of sergeantjohnson, who was killed in this ambush, has spoken, it is now raising questions about by the us has 800 troops in niger, and why they were patrolling the border with mali. on patrol, they faced small arms fire and
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rockets when they called for help. they waited an hour, according to the log, for help, so the investigation is now focused on what support was requested, when, and whether it was enough. general dunford went on to say that he owes the families an explanation but he wa nts the families an explanation but he wants the full extent of this investigation to go forward so that they can have the facts. he said it will be priority. he also said he would redouble his efforts to inform congress about where troops up position overseas. that has become an issue in the last week and there are an issue in the last week and there a re calls an issue in the last week and there are calls for an enquiry as to what happened in this ambush and what is going on with the troops in niger. he went on to say that the mission was to help train local forces because they are there due to the threat from islamic state and al-anda. threat from islamic state and al-qaeda. we saw the way dio -- we
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saw the widow of the soldier laying out some of the question she felt we re out some of the question she felt were unanswered. he calmly, over the last half an hour, has done just that. in her interview this morning, she mentioned that she felt she didn't know the circumstances in which he died and had not been allowed to see his body. we heard that there was a major effort to recover sergeantjohnson's that there was a major effort to recover sergeant johnson's body that took two days, and general dunford was at pains to say that every effort was made, including the help of us soldiers, to recover the body of us soldiers, to recover the body of sergeantjohnson. he is trying to reassure the widow, is special art —— especially after her emotional words this morning, that they are investigating and will, with their findings as soon as they have them. laura, thank you for speaking to us. let me move to this man.
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this guy here , tamer el—noury. it's not his real name and not his real face either. he's an active undercover fbi agent and he's just published a book about his life, american radical. the son of egyptian immigrants, mr el—noury tells the story of how hejoined police in newjersey and was later recruited by the fbi. one of his undercover operations involved foiling a plan to kill as many people as possible by derailing trains between new york and toronto. year has been on tv —— he has been on tv speaking about his experiences. putting your arm around the bad guy and telling him that you are his
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best friend, getting him to commit and tell you all his secrets and all the evil inside him, and locking them up that way, was much more challenging and intriguing to me, andi challenging and intriguing to me, and i found that that was my niche. what motivates him to infiltrate islamic extremist groups? he said: but is he giving out tricks of the trade? here is frank gardner, our security correspondent. his story and the book would not have been published without the fbi vetting every single word, because he is still an employee, still an undercover agent, and the intention is that he goes back into the field,
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so he is adamant that he has not given away any techniques, procedures or tactics by this. i have to say, it gives an extraordinary insight into how an undercover agent would first of all penetrate drug gangs in newjersey, and then later, into this islamist cell that was targeting the railway between new york and toronto. it must give some clues, but they are obviously... the desire to get the story out has overridden any desire to keep things secret. meanwhile here in the uk, the times is reporting that the government is toughening its stance on british jihadists fighting for the so—called islamic state, and that rory stewart, a foreign office minister, said that in most instances they should be killed. here's frank gardner again there is certainly a detectable hardening of uk government attitude
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in whitehall, i think, towards british jihadists who have gone out against advice to syria and iraq to join so—called islamic state and fight for them. now that the caliphate is shrinking fast and every is not much territory left under is control, the fear is that there are hundreds if not thousands of jihadists out there there are hundreds if not thousands ofjihadists out there you might wa nt to ofjihadists out there you might want to return to their european countries of origin. michael fallon said some days ago that if you are a british jihadist said some days ago that if you are a britishjihadist and said some days ago that if you are a british jihadist and you go out to the theatre, so to speak, to syria and iraq, and fight for is, you are and iraq, and fight for is, you are a legitimate target, according to him, fora drone a legitimate target, according to him, for a drone strike. rory stewart went further than net today, supporting the view of the us representative, who essentially said that the us would rather they were killed out there in the combat zone than return and become a threat. he has since clarified those comments by putting out a tweet, rory
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stewart, saying that british jihadists fighting for isis should be treated according to the law. there are large parts of syria and iraq were law doesn't operate, and they are still under the control of is, so it is not possible to send in police with an arrest warrant, as you would do in a normally functioning society. don't forget you can get much more detail on our top stories on our web site there is full coverage on — including more on the brexit talks and the phone call dispute between the widow myeshia johnson and president trump. let's turn to the story of the rohingya crisis. the united states says that governments must pledge
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more money to help those who have fled myanmar and gone to bangladesh. clive mhairi sent us this report. for rohingya muslims who have escaped myanmar, neighbouring bangladesh is a land of second chances. these refugees, part of a huge influx we saw cross the border, are queueing for their first food supplies. with their pink ration cards, they are now dependent on the kindness of strangers. it can be a long, tiring wait in the clammy, humid air. best to do what you can to make things a little bearable. these rohingyas are the latest in a long line of victims of a sectarian and religious conflict that stretches back many decades. this is a crisis that's been going on a long, long time. you guys must be feeding people who have probably sort of been through this, crossed the border, many years ago. that's true.
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we've been feeding for 25 years. you can see it in the camps. at the bottom of the camp, there's refugees from 25 years ago. you move upwards, ten years ago. one year ago, and now you can see who's arrived yesterday. these guys have arrived this week? it's incredible. for the refugees, this might be the land of second chances but it seemed one rohingya muslim's luck had run out. a few days ago we found abu in the arms of his big sister by the side of the road. limp and lifeless, acutely malnourished, we alerted unicef. after several days in the clinic, abu's back from the brink. you ok? he was terribly sick, with fever and diarrhoea. it was a close call. so, the doctors say he was malnourished, still is malnourished but he is taking in food, which means that, hopefully, in a few days, maybe a couple of weeks, he should
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be eating normally. and, fingers crossed, gaining weight. but will abu and his big sister ever see the land of their birth again? just how long is this period of exile for the hundreds of thousands here? the future of the refugees is being discussed at the highest levels between the bangladesh and myanmar governments. could the rohingyas one day return home and these camps close? well, no one's holding their breath. at the un general assembly, bangladeshi's prime minister made it clear where she thinks the blame for the crisis lies. this forcibly displaced people of myanmar are fleeing an ethnic cleansing in their own country, where they have been living for centuries. it's a charge myanmar strongly denies blaming rohingya insurgents for attacks on civilians. the funeral procession of rashida mohammed makes its way
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through the rohingya refugee camp. he was 75 and never saw muslim and buddhist reconciled in his homeland. the younger generation may one day see this happen but, for now, the many rohingya will live and die on foreign soil. all this week our 100 women team is looking at sport , and how, broadly speaking, female athletes earn less and attract smaller audiences. so has sport got a problem with women? or could it be the other way round? i've been investigating. out of the world's 100 highest—paid athletes, out of the world's100 highest—paid athletes, how many women do you think make the cut? yes, that's it,
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just one. serena williams, ranked number51. just one. serena williams, ranked number 51. williams might be widely considered the greatest women's tennis player of all time, but the men's number four, roger tennis player of all time, but the men's numberfour, roger federer, pockets more than twice as much. so why is this? well, how much women's sport have you watched this year? in football, broadcasts of the last men's world cup totalled 98,000 hours. the last women's tournament? fewer than 8000 hours. although that didn't stop the women's final in 2011 racking up more than 7000 tweets per second and setting a new record. but if we check who was
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watching, tv viewers of the last women's world cup were, well, mostly men. so, let's rephrase that question: do women have a problem with sport? well, research shows that girls are less likely than boys to continue playing sport as they get older. but here's the thing: girls are more likely to get involved in sport if they have other girls to take part with. so, maybe the best way to level the playing field is to make sure we're passing on the ball. some of the facts and figures there. the 100 women team have packed their suitcases and made their way to rio de janeiro. i've been talking to the bbc‘s renata mendoza to find out what they're doing there we are here and the challenge is to
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talk about sexism in sport. this is a very interesting country to talk about these issues, because in brazil, the land of football, women we re brazil, the land of football, women were forbidden to play football for almost a0 years. from 19a1—1979, women were forbidden by law to play football in the street or anywhere else. and this pitch where we are, behind me, that was where the footballer matter, the iconic player, was discovered when she was 14 player, was discovered when she was 1a years old. —— martha. her coach at that time discovered her and brought her to vasco. there are experts talking about the issues that women have to face to play sports in brazil. more than that, they are talking about how to solve
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this problem, what things can be done so that the experience of girls who want to play sport can be better. so, you've only got a few days to come up with the solution, right? you have just days to come up with the solution, right? you havejust until the weekend. do you have any idea what those solutions might look like? yeah, it's pretty hard, pretty hard challenge. it is talking about issues that have affecting women in brazil since they were born, so we are going to have four more days to discuss this with experts, especially to talk about how to make a difference in the children's lies, because it all starts with when you area because it all starts with when you are a child, and girls are separate from boys when they want to play sport. so, we will try to talk about
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how to make things change at that age so that things in the future can be better. are you feeling hopeful that the challenge will be reached? iam,i that the challenge will be reached? i am, i think we have five very good experts, people who had bad experiences in the past but all ove rca m e experiences in the past but all overcame this and are now trying already to make a change in children's lives. they are working with football, with sports in their lives and already making a change, soi lives and already making a change, so i believe they will breach a nice idea for a solution. we wish them the best of luck. we will check in with them at the end of the week. it's now almost 20 years since the ground—breaking blue planet programme appeared on our screens. for the first time, millions of viewers, here and around the world, could see the wonders of the deep ocean. now blue planet is back for a second series, presented of course by sir david attenborough. the act hidden beneath the waves,
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right beneath my feet, there are creatures beyond our imagination. —— hidden beneath the waves. creatures beyond our imagination. —— hidden beneath the wavesm creatures beyond our imagination. —— hidden beneath the waves. it is a lwa ys hidden beneath the waves. it is always said that we know more about the moon and mars than we do about the moon and mars than we do about the ocean — is that true and do you think this venture shows that? this world is infinitely more complex than anything we've discovered out in the universe, as far as i know. the degree of complexity about what we need to know when to know about the moon or mars is not that great, is it? because there is no complex communities of life to know things about on those two satellites. do you think that we will ever reach a point where we do know enough, or is there was going to be a journey of curiosity and enquiry? as far as i can see, what discovering is almost a lwa ys can see, what discovering is almost always that the world is more
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intricate, more wonderful and more astonishing than we ever dream doll. —— than we ever dream of. astonishing than we ever dream doll. -- than we ever dream of. you have been involved in so many documentary series, and this one, i've seen the first episode, is completely stunning. what, for you, is the most startling revelation, if you like, about this new venture into the deep ocean? i think it's the degree to which marine animals communicate with one another, not only individually within a species but between species. there are extraordinary examples of, for example, an octopus that works with 18 partner —— a team partner, a coral cod. they hunt together, and the octopus will be shown by the
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group where there are fish hiding and indicate the position by standing on their heads and changing colour. the octopus then comes along and sticks one of its tentacles into this crevice to frighten the fish out, straight into the jaws of the octopus. sometimes it works the other way round. we just visited, in a submersible, lakes of liquid methane at the bottom of the very deep sea. fish swimming in the water above are then treating the lake of methane as a foreign body, diving into it and coming up rather startled. the methane then suddenly explodes in what looks like a volcanic eruption of gas, liquid methane coming up from the bottom of the seed. that's unbelievable. ——
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the seed. that's unbelievable. —— the bottom of the sea. the mother needs to find a place where her young can rest. there was a moving scene of a walrus mother trying to get her calf onto a piece of ice, and there wasn't much less because it was melting. what is your measure of the rate and scale of change in the arctic? any sceptics that there we re the arctic? any sceptics that there were ten or 20 years ago about global warming, climate change and so one, and there were lots, must surely be diminishing to vanishing point when you see the evidence that we have collected. scientists around the world have collected evidence of what is happening to our seas, and the fact that we are responsible for it. you have talked about the fragility of the ocean, and i know in one of the episodes you explore some of the threats that they face — what for you is, if you like, the most compelling argument that they
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are under threat? i suppose areas of bleached coral. in the last programme, in which we deal with the problems facing the oceans, there are shots of big areas of coral reef that are white, bleached, deserts. if you have ever seen a coral reef and you think what that once was, that's enough to make you weep. what is it that motivates you to remain engaged at this active pace, if i may say, at your age? it's so wonderful and so astonishing — what more do you want out of life? this amazing panoply of astonishment and beauty and intricacy and wonder. areas that we don't know about. discovery in the natural world is just a never—ending delight.
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discovery in the natural world is just a never-ending delight. david, you are obviously renowned for engaging younger audiences in the natural world — what do you think about this series will most captivate younger people? what is it you are hoping they will engage with? i suppose, the complexity and beauty of the underwater world, and of the characters, the little things, the extraordinary behaviours of all these creatures. they are also beautiful and so extraordinary and so unlike anything else that we encounter on our dry land. the world of the underwater is just amazing. and that is just incredible. we're back with you again tomorrow. i do hope you willjoin us. goodbye. well, the weather looks fairly quiet this week, and one thing that we're not going to be in short supply of
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isa not going to be in short supply of is a lot of cloud. it will come and go and there will be sunshine around too, so overall, we will call it fairly changeable with rain at times. lots of mild weather, not just in the south but northern also getting a little bit of the warmth. this is this is what is happening across the atlantic right now — a huge area of low pressure way help there, dragging in cloud from the south—west. this is southern climes, almost the tropics, the coast of africa. a daisy chain of where they're being pushed in our direction. when we are in this sort of situation, we get allowed of —— we get a lot of cloud and hillfort. that will certainly be the case on tuesday morning and into the afternoon. that weather front is sliding across from west to east, meaning that southern counties, i think, on tuesday, should just about stay dry. also eastern parts of scotland, a bit of sunshine on the
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way. here is that daisy—chain of a weather front that stretches down to the south—west. it is still across the south—west. it is still across the uk on tuesday night and into wednesday. very mild, temperatures around 1a celsius, which is a typical daytime temperature but we're getting it at night. our weather is coming from the south west rather than the west. on wednesday, the weather front is slipping south, which means that the northern three quarters of the country is in for a nice day. it looks like cornwall and devon could be overcast with drizzle. only 15 celsius, but still getting up to 18 celsius, but still getting up to 18 celsius in london. that same weather front will probably meander a little further north on thursday, so a little more overcast. out of the clouds break on thursday, across southern areas, we could get temperatures up to 20 celsius. a significant shift in wind direction
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on friday, which will push the weather front back down again, so we start to introduce slightly fresher air towards the end of the week. i pressure builds over as well. the weather front fizzles away, and i will show you a different picture now, the pressure chart. here is thejet different picture now, the pressure chart. here is the jet stream. cooler air towards the north will be pushed in our direction. in scandinavia, it will be cold enough snow, but not for us. the now coming from the north—west, bright skies, a few showers, and showers, and temperatures coming down. jet stream is coming out of the north—west. i pressure here, low pressure here, so thatis pressure here, low pressure here, so that is where our air is going to be coming from. the overall message is for things to briefly cool down, but then there is an indication that by
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then there is an indication that by the time we get to the second half of the week, perhaps slightly milder airwill be of the week, perhaps slightly milder air will be returning to the uk. let's summarise early next week: cooler air coming from the north, so temperatures of 12—1adc. bree the —— breezy, often bright, with some showers. that's all from me. tonight at ten. theresa may says there's a degree of confidence that trade talks with the eu can start by the end of the year. reporting back on last week's summit, the prime ministerfaced labour claims that her approach to brexit was chaotic and damaging. i believe that by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way, in a spirit of co—operation, we will deliver the best possible outcome that works for all our people. well, here we are again after another round of talks and we're still no clearer as to when negotiations on britain's future with our largest trading partner will actually begin. also today, the president
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of the european commission denies saying that mrs may had been despondent and begging for help last week. she didn't plead
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