tv The Papers BBC News December 5, 2017 10:45pm-11:01pm GMT
sex was not talked point was, the sex was not talked about. now we are in a different world and a better world in the sense that this is much more open, but then, the question was, is the country's intelligence being compromised by the same woman being in bed with two different men? and the picture captures something of the picture captures something of the period, doesn't it, with the ambiguity of how women were regarded then. she looks like a sophisticated ingenue, when she was actually a young home counties girl. she is remembered as being quite naive and caught up in all of this political shenanigans and not really up to all the intrigue. if she ended up in jailfor perjury as the intrigue. if she ended up in jail for perjury as well... and she died penniless, pretty much. it's very sad. the whole thing with what
happened with stephen ward... the celebrity osteopath. he would have his own show if it were a modern version. he would be on reality tv, but he ended pretty unhappily too. let's go to a story in the telegraph. mihir, this is intriguing, the imponderable situation theresa may has got herself in over brexit. johnson and gove herself in over brexit. johnson and g ove lea d herself in over brexit. johnson and gove lead cabinet revolt, fearing that she is going soft. yes, and it is emerging that david davis, the man who was supposed to take us out of europe, the hardliner, seems to have gone native. there was an exchange in parliament today where jacob rees mogg said there should be a red line. you can't have alignment of regulations, and he said the only red line it's to get a good deal out of brexit. so we are prepared to
give ground on that. and that is what gove and johnson are protesting about. they are colleagues of yours. david davis seems to be coming into the real world faster than people likejohnson the real world faster than people like johnson and gove. the real world faster than people like johnson and govelj the real world faster than people like johnson and gove. i guess you we re like johnson and gove. i guess you were both remainers? correct. but a lot of tories were remainers, and thatis lot of tories were remainers, and that is not the point. as david davis says, the point is to get the best dealfor britain. davis says, the point is to get the best deal for britain. if we want to look after northern ireland and if we wa nt look after northern ireland and if we want to treat northern ireland as a full and equal part of the uk, you can't have different rules for them and us. the only way of having a frictionless border seems to me to stay in some kind of customs union, probably the one we are currently in. david davis is saying that we have to have regulatory alignment.
the eu wants a level playing field. you can't have countries who are supposed to be trading freely with you suddenly cheating and having different regulations. this also makes the front of the ft. mihir we re makes the front of the ft. mihir were saying people thought of him as a eurosceptic. he was europe minister underjohn major. that was why he was appointed. but your boss, iain duncan smith, has said we may have reached the point where we have to walk away from the talks because there is no way that we in the conservative party, mps there is no way that we in the conservative party, mp5 of his ilk, will accept staying in the customs union, even if you call it something else. the extreme brexiters do not speakfor the else. the extreme brexiters do not speak for the tory party. and the idea of walking away and leaving the issue of northern ireland unsolved issue of northern ireland unsolved is not a view of all the tory party
oi’ is not a view of all the tory party or the whole of parliament. even if we walk away, are we not responsible for some of our liabilities? we can't say, we are not paying anything, and off we go. look at the eurostar back! we have to respect the referendum. we have to try to leave the eu on good terms. if it turns out that things are changing, and david davis seems to be realising that the political decision to leave the single market and customs union, which was not something people voted on, may need to be rethought, that is responsible. but we must not abandon northern ireland or abandon the peace process that is so precious on the island of ireland. let's move on to the sports page of the guardian, winter olympics ban for russia over doping. it is a banner up to a point. some might say it is the wisdom of solomon. what is your take
on it? it has finally been done. they didn't do it for the previous games. the head of the international olympic committee, a german, was very close to putting and therefore didn't do it. but now they have done it. even then, russian athlete who can it. even then, russian athlete who ca i'l prove it. even then, russian athlete who can prove they are keen can take part, but not under the russian flag, under the olympic flag. which is close to the eu anthem, so we will hear a lot of that. maybe jacob rees mogg should have a word. maybe we could do what those football players were doing in the us in protest. we could have something equivalent when they play the ode to joy- equivalent when they play the ode to joy. this is something sport has not come to grips with properly. we know there is doping. sport is always
trying to say we are on the moral high ground, andjet trying to say we are on the moral high ground, and jet they don't take the decision. welcome as it is, this isa the decision. welcome as it is, this is a late decision. you would have had a total ban, would you?|j is a late decision. you would have had a total ban, would you? i would have had a total ban. but isn't it ha rd have had a total ban. but isn't it hard for the athletes... this is state—sponsored doping. that means the state is helping you. you have to bear responsibility. the ioc is also considering that these are excellent athletes, and if you want to have a meaningful olympic games and you have athletes who can prove they have done nothing wrong, maybe there is a case for saying to them, you can participate. and others who might otherwise be tempted to do something they should not be doing will think twice, because there are consequences. it is right that you
have this decisive action. but maybe we have a bit of carrot and stick here. the carrot is, if you are clean... some of them they believe, if we tinker with the edges, we can get away with it. let's move on to the times and something people will not get away with, this extraordinary story. it makes you wonder whether this has been fed to the papers because of the critical report into mi5 and the abedi case, the suicide bomber in manchester. that is possible. the abedi case and the khalid masood, boasts of those we re the khalid masood, boasts of those were possibly missed opportunities, but thousands of people are under surveillance and you can't be everywhere at all times. but we are seeing that two men have been charged with allegedly plotting to
blow up the prime minister. that is really serious. they have also taken the opportunity to let us know that nine other terrorist plots have been foiled in the last 12 months. so although it is awful that some of them have not been foiled, the police and security services are working tirelessly to protect us and are doing a good job, succeeding in many cases. we should also look at whether they have enough resources. in the abedi case and some others, it seems that they were going to talk to him, but later on. maybe the week after. maybe there is a question of how much resources we are devoted to something that is a very serious issue. that is a valid point, but however much resources you put into it, there is also the
legal problem. even if you suspect something, you have to have meaningful evidence before you can do anything. and if you overreact, you almost create a win for those who don't like this country, because you change the way this country does things. we should be proud of the freedoms we have and we don't- a we have a less police state. indeed. we have a less flattering picture of theresa may here with scotch egg on her face! this is a story about train fare rises. do you feel bled dry or do you not use the train?|j rises. do you feel bled dry or do you not use the train? i do use the train. in the last decade, trains have changed enormously in this country. for the better? for the better. and often, i go by train instead of driving. but there is the serious issue of how much we should pay in fares. if you are on
southern, i don't think you would be complacent about this. the cost of train fares for people who commute, they can't afford to live in the big cities, they are living further out and now you have the train fare rises by more than wages. 3.4% fare rises. train fares are tied to rpi, the retail prices index, which is higher than the cpi. benefits are tied to the cpi. lots of areas where you might earn more op—ed the cpi. let's align the two. a bit of regulatory alignment! maybe that will catch on. ros altmann and mihir bose, thank you so much. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers
and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you both. goodbye. the uk's next named storm is on the way. then it turns colder. snow showers, frost and ice, and that's just this week's weather and this forecast has to get through next week too. better crack on. i will start with a view of tuesday. grey, mild and quiet right now, but that's about to change. why? look into the atlantic, this big swirl of cloud, storm caroline is on way to the uk. scotland will bear the brunt on thursday, but winds will pick up across the board thanks to storm caroline. as it moves away, it will turn colder and at the end of the week some of us will be dealing with snow showers, frosty and icy nights. before that, straight to wednesday's
weather and one last mild day. the flow of air from the south south west. northern ireland and elsewhere in scotland will see rain moving in and temperatures topping out at 13 or 11! celsius. by the end of wednesday, gales are developing in western areas. caroline passes to the north of scotland, and scotland will see the strongest gusts on thursday. but there is a risk of gusts elsewhere in scotland, northern ireland and perhaps northern england. showers follow to the north—west. as the colder air moves south across the uk, this is how temperatures will look at the end of the afternoon. we are likely to see blizzards developing of northern scotland going through thursday night and into friday. by friday, caroline is out into scandinavia, but look at the flow of air from the arctic and the isobars packed together.
strong, cold winds surging across the uk during friday. for some of us, that day will start very wintry, with snow showers across northern and western parts of scotland. icy in places. elsewhere, sunshine or snow showers, it will feel bitterly cold, colder than the thermometer might suggest. it will feel closer to or below freezing on friday even on saturday, which starts frosty. the sleet and snow showers will be close to the north sea coast on saturday, where the winds will be stronger. elsewhere, sunshine. but by sunday, we have a problem. a cold and frosty start, and we bring an atlantic weather system into the uk with the moisture into the cold air. there is uncertainty about how quickly this will move across the uk, but some of us are likely to see snow as it runs into the cold air. there is a risk of significant snow in places, particularly across northern parts of the uk. for sunday, this is a case of watch this space and we will keep you updated.
there will be further similar problems into next week, because the weather pattern stays the same. the jet stream is lurking to the west of us, but much of the uk will be on the northern side of the jet stream. that is the cold side. so cold air is in place for most of us, just mild flirtations at times with the south and south—west. along the jet stream, we will see further weather systems from the atlantic. it's mild to the south and south—west. elsewhere in the uk, in the cold air on the northern side of the jet stream, a risk of snow. so next week is looking cold for most of us and often windy as the weather systems move in, and a risk of further snow. next week is looking interesting, and that is after this week's roller—coaster ride of temperatures, and of course, storm caroline. this is bbc news.
i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 11: an official government review says the manchester bombing, which killed 22 people earlier this year, could have been stopped. having received that intelligence, mi5 should have opened an investigation, and who knows what that investigation would have found. the fact is, they didn't. as theresa may tries to rescue a brexit deal, a former conservative leader tells bbc news the uk should walk away if the eu doesn't change it's negotiating stance. you need to change this process, and to back off, otherwise we get on with other arrangements. christine keeler, the model at the centre of one of the great political scandals of modern times, has died at the age of 75. and on newsnight, should a doctor, convicted of manslaughter for errors that contributed to the death of a child