hello. this is breakfast, with charlie stayt and mega munchetty. north korea suspends all missile tests and announces its to shut down a nuclear test site. president trump has welcomed the move. he calls it "good news for the world." good morning. it's saturday, 21st april. also this morning: police have arrested a man wanted in connection with a burglary in south east london during which one intruder was fatally stabbed. the prime minister promises to do whatever it takes to help the windrush generation including paying compensation. tributes pour in for avicii, one of the world's biggest dance music stars who's died at the age of 28. good morning.
in sport, the end of era as arsene wenger prepares to leave arsenal at the end of the season. the premier league's longest serving manager departs after nearly 22 years in charge. and phil has the weather. good morning. another warm day for many parts of the british isles. signs of a change on the way. storms and a weather front as well. i will have all of the details for you in just a few minutes. good morning. first, our main story. the north korea leader, kimjong—un, has said his country will no longer carry out tests of its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. he also said that a nuclear testing site in the north of the country is to be shut down. president trump has tweeted that the announcement is good news for the world and that he is looking forward to meeting the north korean leaderfor talks. our correspondent, bill hayton, has this report. in his six years as north korean leader, kimjong's nuclear missile programmes have made giant leaps. his regime now possesses both
a functioning nuclear weapon and the ability to hit parts of the united states. many in the region feared some kind of confrontation was coming, so this announcement appears to be good news. president trump certainly sees it that way. "big progress," he declared, "look forward to our summit." however, one former obama administration official says the announcement avoids the big issue. it is not a major change. it says north korea will freeze their testing. but there is really no commitment to denuclearisation or any plans of the trump administration. there has been intense diplomacy to get to this point. kim jong—un visited beijing. mr trump's cia boss went to north korea. and the winter olympics allowed north korean officials to visit the south.
the next step will be a meeting next week between kim and his south korean counterpart, moon jae—in. a new direct telephone line between the two leaderships was formally opened on friday. but the japanese government is cautious. however, the fact that pyongyang is telling its people about the progress suggests that it is serious about decreasing the tension on the korean peninsula. bill hayton, bbc news. let's hear now from our seoul correspondent, laura bicker, on the importance of this development. this is a significant statement from kim jong—un via the state—run media agency. he's willing, he says, to stop nuclear testing, he's willing to stop missile testing, he's going to close a nuclear facility. he will pivot towards a more economic policy, "a better policy for his people," he says. and he says he is going to work towards nuclear disarmament. but the problem is, behind all those statements, he's still not saying he's going to denuclearise, he's still not saying he will give away his weapons. and that is something the international community have consistently demanded.
although this is a big win for sanctions, perhaps laying the groundwork for the summit with south korea next week and donald trump potentially in late may, earlyjune, it lays the groundwork for those summits, it does not say he is ready and willing to denuclearise. it also does not say he will let people in to inspect these nuclear sites. and when it comes to the closure of that nuclear test site, that is important, it is significant, but it was partially destroyed, according to some reports, during his sixth and last test in september last year. so it may well be that it can't be used anyway. so he has given a lot, but he has not given not enough for the international community to drop sanctions. however, it is a significant step forward in preparation for these talks with the international community. police have arrested a man wanted
in connection with a burglary in south east london during which one intruder was fatally stabbed. let's get more detail now from our reporter, simon clemison, who is in our london newsroom. good morning. when this happened there was a lot of discussion about what would happen next. you are correct. this story was in all of the headlines when it first wrote. it involved a man in his late 70s with intruders at his home in lewisham two weeks ago in the early hours. henry vincent, 37, stabbed and died of his wounds. another man was later released without charge. since then, a 28—year—old man has
been chased riot police connected with the incident. they have said billyjeeves has with the incident. they have said billy jeeves has been with the incident. they have said billyjeeves has been arrested on suspicion of two counts of burglary, theft, and possession of a controlled substance, arrested in kent by command. he is being held at a kent police station. enquiries are continuing. they are not looking for anyone else at the moment in connection with this investigation. theresa may has promised compensation to members of the windrush generation who have been treated unfairly by the home office. the government apologised after some children of caribbean migrants who settled in the uk before the 1970s had been threatened with deportation. it's expected to cover any financial losses incurred and more details are expected to be published within the next week. on tuesday i met with caribbean leaders were i gave an absolute commitment that the uk government will do whatever it takes,
including, where appropriate, payment, to resolve the anxieties and problems some have suffered. these people are british and are pa rt these people are british and are part of us and helped to build britain and we are all the stronger because of their contribution. the parents of the terminally ill toddler, alfie evans, have lost the latest stage of their legal battle over his life support. tom evans and kate james failed to persuade the supreme court that their son was being unlawfully detained at alder hey children's hospital in liverpool. the court also refused permission for the parents to appeal the decision. the couple say they will now make an urgent application to the european court of human rights. european and us airline regulators have ordered emergency inspections of some boeing 737 jet engines like the one that blew up during a flight earlier this week.
the engine explosion on a southwest airlines flight was caused by a broken fan blade. the blast shattered a window and killed a passenger. now, the federal aviation administration has ordered that the engines of 700 aircraft be checked within the next 20 days. men still receive on average 28 pounds more a week in the state pension than women because they have patchy national insurance records after caring for children and the elderly according to a new study. the consumer group which says reforms introduced two years ago are starting to narrow the gap but more needs to be done. here's our personal finance correspondent, simon gompertz. nearly 13 million pensioners, but they are not all the same. on average, women get less than men from the state pension. the basic pension depends on how many years you have been working and paying national insurance. the second pension is linked to how much you earn. man received 154 per week on
average. for people retiring now and in the future, there is a new state pension getting rid of the second pension getting rid of the second pension which men did best from, making the most of allowances for caring, going mainly to women. only those retiring from 2016 get it. there is still an e8 gap. many women are already having to do with the fa ct are already having to do with the fact their pension age is being raised from 60 to 65. how long will it take for the pension gap to close 7 it take for the pension gap to close? some say it could be a decade. simon gompertz, bbc news. tributes have been paid to the swedish dj, avicii who has died aged 28. he was one of the world's biggest dance music stars and is best known for his hit "wake me up" which sold
more than a million copies in the uk alone. andrew plant reports. # so wake me up when it's all over. ..# the dance music dj avicii, whose club anthems made him famous worldwide. tim bergling began making music in his bedroom in sweden, before his talent caught hold, taking him on a ten year career that saw him filling hundreds of venues with thousands of fans. there are very few genuine megastars from my world, and avicii was one of the handful of them, with a really distinctive melodic sound, a classicjourney up from the underground through to the extreme mainstream, and very much responsible for the breaking actually of dance music in the one territory where it simply could not get a foothold prior to avicii's success, and that is north america. avicii worked with some of the biggest names in the business, from madonna to coldplay, and tributes have poured in. rita ora, who he worked with, tweeted: his music has been streamed more than 10 billion times online,
and he hit number one spots around the world. he retired from touring in 2016, but continued to make music, saying his lifelong passion had come with a price. "i know i am blessed to be able to travel all around the world", he said at the time, "but i have too little left for the life of a real person behind the artist." his latest collection was nominated for a billboard music award just a few days before his death. we will have the weather soon. and the sport as well. papers coming up a little later as well. voters will head to the polls for the third of may test of the general election result. sits on 150 councils are up for grabs result. sits on 150 councils are up forgrabs and result. sits on 150 councils are up for grabs and john maguire is looking at plymouth where the council is hotly disputed between
labour and the conservatives. —— seats. only mad dogs and plymouth people would be out on a day like this. but this community walking group is made of tough stuff. not me. we have taken shelter in a cafe to get down to chatting about the local elections. they do not even ask what we can spend. we pay council rates and taxes and everything else, but it would be nice to say what would you like to spend this on? i have lived here all my life. plymouth is a beautiful city. sometimes we do not appreciate it. student accommodation is important, but there are other things as well i would put as a priority. history and social changes in the dna of this seafaring city. there is also a rich political
heritage. the first woman to take a seatin heritage. the first woman to take a seat in the commons, miss aster, along with michael foot, and david owen, who formed the sdp. plymouth has, economically and socially, in many respects, has a lot more in common with other industrial cities. politics reflects that. adrian leigh, a former head of politics, has analysed elections for more than 40 has analysed elections for more than a0 yea rs has analysed elections for more than a0 years here. has analysed elections for more than 40 years here. the electoral landscape has changed significantly. but still the contest this time will be between labour and conservatives, especially as ukip has declined significantly. but we have to mention the fact the lib dems are fielding a full slate of candidates
in the city for the first time for a number of years. but if the ward is deemed a safe seat, i am told candidates are scarce. very few people come our way, general elections, local elections, you never see anybody. defence is a vital industry here. transport links are vital industry here. transport links a re often vital industry here. transport links are often criticised. the ambition of the city is to grow from 260,000 people to 360,000. but as the population ages, the challenge will be to take care of the elderly while providing enough opportunity for a workforce to pay the bills. bbc news, plymouth. you can find more about that out on the bbc website. if you thought all of that glorious sunshine was a sign of summer to stay, philip will put you right. well, you saw that, people flocking away in their millions. a glorious
start to the weekend, plymouth looking none too cheery there but obviously glorious in many areas because we are still, at the moment, he said ominously, have the high pressure that has brought all of the conditions you may well have enjoyed or otherwise over the past couple of days but waiting in the wings we have a weather front and more on that in non—. a glorious start, low cloud across the eastern side of england, worth mentioning because i think it may temper the feel of the day as it drifts up the coast. sharp eyed amongst you will notice does showers or the channel islands and they may creep up across wales in south—west into the midlands through the day. still warm, still warm from the day. still warm, still warm from the time of year, maybe notjust as warm as it has been. but as the weather front getting ever closer to the north—west of scotland. through the north—west of scotland. through the evening, there could be a thunderstorm in the midst of all of these heavy showers. as they drift away into the north sea ahead of the weather front, which is away into the north sea ahead of the weatherfront, which is coming more ofa weatherfront, which is coming more
of a player across the western side of a player across the western side of the british isles on what is still a really warm night. and a warm start the sunday. and a bright start to eastern star —— eastern parts. then the weather front comes m, parts. then the weather front comes in, nota parts. then the weather front comes in, not a sparkling day, cloud, not too much in the way of rain and as it's into the south—east, you may get the odd heavy shower or thunderstorm because temperatures are still what over the seasonal norm but behind it, it is parfor the course, 12, 13, 14. he said this rather smoothly, watch out, it is going to be warm, humid, maybe a show later on, that sunshine will be tempered but use your sunscreen is that will and a cloud to block it out altogether. on the front is away, that looks more familiar the this time of year! a westerly flow, it isn't as warm as sucking in the heat from the continent. it will eventually be this weather front pushing in over the atlantic to ruin the day of cross western scotland,
western england, northern ireland, down towards the north—western quarter of wales. those temperatures are much closer to the seasonal norm not a write—off by any means at all. next week, you can pretty much forget all about the heat because it will be cooler, i say for many, it will be cooler, i say for many, it will be cooler, i say for many, it will be quite breezy because the low pressure is that it closer by and showers, if not longer spells rain. just a word to the wise, to reiterate that about the london marathon, if you were running or speak taking, it will still be pretty hot and humid so you will need to take suitable precautions. wise words indeed, phil. lots of people going to watch and of course running and we wish them well. yesterday, the commonwealth countries announced the prince of wales will be the next head of the organisation and that announced was overshadowed by the continuing row overshadowed by the continuing row over the windrush generation. victoria schofield, the commonwealth
journal of international affairs. good morning. interesting, isn't it? but an important occasion but it was individuals in a way through attracted the attention around the windrush generation, these were people who were denied hospital care, denied their right, and we became focused on that issue. how much do you think that dominated certain parts of what has happened over the past three days?” certain parts of what has happened over the past three days? i think it dominated certain parts but not over all, have to be honest. i think the prime minister made it very clear, especially in her final communique, her press conference, this is a matter that will be looked into and would be dealt with, compensation would be dealt with, compensation would be dealt with, compensation would be given. i think one has to put in the context of overall what was going on in the commonwealth and admittedly, the announcement that prince charles was going to take over from the prince charles was going to take overfrom the queen in due prince charles was going to take over from the queen in due course, that was a big issue but it was a
lot going on in the various forums, the women's forum, the people's forum, the business forum, and the youth forum with appearances from the royal family as well. it was really quite evident that there was a lot of goodwill in london at this time because of the commonwealth conference. i suppose in a way victoria some of the ways in which that story emerging at this time is just as the british government is trying to, in a way, redefined the commonwealth, explain to people the reasons why it is still worthwhile. have a story which is suggesting that members of the commonwealth had been so badly treated, there was a curious mixed message going on, wasn't there? there was. i think as i say the prime minister tried to address it as swiftly as possible and of course it was embarrassing that it appeared at this moment when london and indeed the united kingdom wa nt to london and indeed the united kingdom want to showcase the united kingdom who were the coast of the commonwealth, for the next two
yea rs, commonwealth, for the next two years, and it is embarrassing but i think one has to as i said put in context that she tried to address it as soon context that she tried to address it as soon as context that she tried to address it as soon as possible and i think we will hear more about windrush in the coming weeks. but clearly, there is a feeling that the prime minister and the british government wants to make good over this rather me she thought rather messy issue. do you think at the end of these three days of meetings and formal occasions, do you think the commonwealth is in good stead? you think the commonwealth is in good stead 7 has you think the commonwealth is in good stead? has it got a new vision for the future? well, the secretary general patricia scotland made it very clear that the commonwealth is fit for purpose, it is a quotation we hear about the commonwealth, i think the blue charter, but cyber security, all these initiatives are obviously promising but as always, with the commonwealth and 53 countries, catchword is implementation. and what the next stage is going to be, because you
know, the commonwealth detractors will always say this is talking shop and nothing ever happened so i think what happens over the next two yea rs, what happens over the next two years, while the uk is the host, really will make a big deal —— difference if we are to move forward with the commonwealth, particularly in this post—brexit iraq. with the commonwealth, particularly in this post-brexit iraq. thank you very much real time this morning. for decades, we have thought of depression as serious illness of the mind. we have treated it with drugs and with therapy and argued about which works best. new research showed that perhaps inflammation influences of depression. but in a book that's going to have an impact around the world, the head of the department of psychiatry at the university of cambridge is telling us something else. professor edward bullmore is leading the development of new anti—inflammatory drugs for depression. hejoins us now. so often we talk about mental health issues and then the trick of the
mind but you are seeing a correlation between physical health? i think the basic idea of the book is we have thought of depression as sometimes all in the mind, sometimes all in the brain and we probably also have to think about the body and how that plays the story. some examples? there is a lot of evidence that physical illness for example is associated with depression, fatigue, psychological impotence, people have psoriasis comic ibs, this is a common experience. what have you found? common experience. what have you found ? what common experience. what have you found? what has prompted this conclusion in terms of finding out this research? there has been a growing amount of research going on for about 10— 15 years and i think it is one of those fields that, five or six years ago may have seemed a bit edgy, a bit absurd almost but the body can have something to do with the mind. but science moves on and we now understand that the immune system in particular can talk to the brain and influence how we feel and how we behave. so if you have established that physical ailments have a link to depression, it sounds like a simplistic approach
but if you cure the ailment, do you then cure the depression? is it that straightforward link between the elements? i guess it could be. but there are a lot of people out there with physical illness who have psychological symptoms, mental symptoms, depression, fatigue, that have not responded well to the treatments they have been offered for the physical symptoms so i think it is an area where we still need to make progress and of course there are people who have depression without a physical illness and i think here, the science is telling us think here, the science is telling us there may be about one third of patients who have low levels of inflammation in their bodies, not at the level that you would expect in somebody with arthritis for example. in what way, people listening to what you are saying now, trying to think how did they apply that in their real lives? if you are somebody who has some kind of physical ailment and you think it is having an impact on you, or
generally, many have been seeing yourgp ona generally, many have been seeing your gp on a regular basis, what, i mean, how do you address it in practical terms, aside from dino the research and the work that you are writing about, how does this impact in real world? writing about, how does this impact in realworld? i think one writing about, how does this impact in real world? i think one thing that i hope the book will do a bit is it must. we know that there is a lot of stigma and shame and silence around psychological symptoms. one thing that i think is very common is that people who have physical illness and depression, fatigue, they think it is my fault, it is because i am not sort of strong enough to cope with the impact of the physical illness. and i think the physical illness. and i think the science says will make people should be thinking about it in that self—critical way. they should be regarding it as another symptom of their physical illness, they should be getting out and talking to their doctors unashamedly about notjust the physical symptoms of the disease but the mental symptoms too. has there been any evidence of someone who has depression or has been diagnosed with depression who has been treated with, physically,
anti—inflammatories for exam for, and that having an impact? yes. we don't yet have that kind of clinical trial data. we would need that to... is it under way? they are running, there at least one running, we are hoping to start one later this year, andi hoping to start one later this year, and i think the evidence will become firmer overtime. how easy is it to correlate the evidence in terms to actually say physically, your pain has been fixed and that has a direct link to your mental health. surely thatis link to your mental health. surely that is quite difficult. it is tricky but one way you can look at it is overtime, so if you have a physical illness like arthritis and you get one of the new anti—inflammatory treatment, often people's mood improves quite quickly, before the physical symptoms may respond to treatment. in terms of unpicking the physical and mental effects, one way to do thatis and mental effects, one way to do that is to look up the time and the other thing that is to study the
effects of anti—inflammatory treatment in people who don't have physical disease but have depression that may be linked to inflammation nonetheless. fascinating to make those links. thank you for taking the time to talk to us. the book is called the inflamed mind. it's more than 10 months since the london bridge terror attack which left eight people dead and 48 injured. one of the wounded was charlie, an off—duty police officer. since then, he's had five operations but tomorrow, he will be among the 39,000 runners taking part in the london marathon. caroline davies has been to meet him. first i thought it was a pub file. it was just one of those instant reactions to go over and try to help your colleagues out. police officer charlie was off duty watching football in london bridge on the night of the third ofjune. it was one of many members of the emergency
services who ran towards the attackers. initially it was confronted by all three and two of them started to attack me, i then tried to you know to my best to defend myself and unfortunately one of them got me in the back first and twice in the head and another one in the back and then at that stage i thought of just fell to the floor. for about three or four seconds i thought this is it. for whatever reason the attackers didn't stay to kill charlie at they did leave him with serious injuries. initially i had some surgery, my spleen was taken out, i had an infection, another eight weeks at kings over the summer. since he has been out of hospital charlie has been building up hospital charlie has been building up to run his london marathon. hospital charlie has been building up to run his london marathonm was just a challenge on all parts of my was just a challenge on all parts of d. was just a challenge on all parts of my body, mainly from where the surgery was my body, mainly from where the surgery was and i had chest drains in and things like that but i always feel that if i run a bit further before a sort of had to stop or
didn't feel as much pain this time and now it has got to a point we sometimes you know it might be for a brief moment i think this is like it was last time. this time he is running over the team who helped save running over the team who helped save his life, king ‘s college hospital. it is important for me to give something back to them, i am aiming to raise will not build a new board, it will not do that, but it is money at the end of the day that goes towards them to help them out in helping others. it may seem a human is challenged to a hospital bed to a marathon in less than one year at the end, charlie has already shown he will run in where others wouldn't. carolyn davis, bbc news. he always get so many inspirational stories coming out of the london marathon and so many emotions and we wish charlie all of the very best in what will be a very warm day. we will talk to him at the start time i perform start line. headlines are coming up. the surely. —— see you
shortly. hello. this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. kim jong—un said he will no longer test missile technology and will shut down a site in the north. chris buckler has the latest developments. there is no doubt that the last few months have seen huge diplomatic leaps. remember, it was only the latter half of last year with donald trump calling kimjong—un little rocket man and threatening fire and fury for north korea. and north korea said they could hit north america. but this statement does not have a commitment to denuclearisation. certainly a lot will be welcome. there are longer term commitments, for example, getting rid of the testing site in the north of the country. but there will be some
inside the white house, inside the donald trump administration, urging caution. they will say promises and pledges have been made by north korea before and they have been broken and that trust is something to be earned, not just fully given. there are countries like japan who really feel the pressure has to be kept up on pyongyang. nevertheless, you get the feeling a stage is being set for an historic summit between donald trump and kimjong—un. police have arrested a man wanted in connection with a burglary in south—east london with an intruder fatally stabbed. billy jeeves, south—east london with an intruder fatally stabbed. billyjeeves, 28, has been arrested in kent. the other
intruder was stabbed and later died from his wounds. theresa may has promised compensation to the windrush generation which was treated unfairly by the home office. some were threatened with deportation. they are expected to cover a ny deportation. they are expected to cover any financial penalties incurred. on tuesday, i met with caribbean leaders where i gave an absolute commitment that the uk government will do whatever it ta kes, government will do whatever it takes, including, where appropriate, payment of compensation, to resolve the anxieties and problems that some of the windrush generation have suffered. these people are british, they are part of us, they helped to build britain, and we are all the strongerfor build britain, and we are all the stronger for their traditions. -- contributions. the parents of the terminally ill
toddler, alfie evans, have lost the latest stage of their legal battle over his life support. tom evans and kate james failed to persuade the supreme court that their son was being unlawfully detained at alder hey children's hospital in liverpool. the court also refused permission for the parents to appeal the decision. the couple say they will now make an urgent application to the european court of human rights. european and us airline regulators have ordered emergency inspections ofjet engines like the one that blew up during a flight earlier this week. the engine explosion on a southwest airlines flight was caused by a broken fan blade. the blast shattered a window and killed a passenger. now, the federal aviation administration has ordered that the engines of 700 aircraft be checked within the next 20 days. men still receive on average 28 pounds more a week in the state pension than women because they have patchy national insurance records after caring for children and the elderly according to a new study. the consumer group which says reforms introduced two years ago are starting to narrow the gap but more needs to be done. tributes have been paid
to the swedish dj, avicii, who has died aged 28. he was one of the world's biggest dance music stars and is best known for his hit ‘wake me up' which sold more than a million copies in the uk alone. those are the main stories. one more, though. a rare aston martin car owned by daniel craig has sold for £340,000. this is what it looks like. it is not an ordinary model. it has the production number 007 and is one ofjust 100 it has the production number 007 and is one ofjust100 produced in 2014, pa rt is one ofjust100 produced in 2014, part of a limited—edition series to mark the firm's centenary. part of a limited—edition series to mark the firm's centenarylj part of a limited—edition series to mark the firm's centenary. i want to say thank you for buying it for me. you are so generation. can you get me one as well? i would not mind.
one thing! me one as well? i would not mind. one thing i picked up this morning. we are talking about arsene wenger. it is almost like a flashback to the current date. really? that would have been the mid— 1990s. current date. really? that would have been the mid—1990s. it was an era. the big suits. a sign of the times, just how long he's been there. and his hair. he probably has a few more grey hairs. things have not been going to plan for arsene wenger which is why after 22 years he is leaving. he will have a bit of a swa nsong. he is leaving. he will have a bit of a swansong. he certainly left a legacy. it just a swansong. he certainly left a legacy. itjust took a swansong. he certainly left a legacy. it just took you a a swansong. he certainly left a legacy. itjust took you a while to see. after 22 years, arsenal
and arsene wenger are parting company, he came to the north london club in 1996 as a virtual unknown. he was the man who made arsenal invincible winning three premier league titles and seven fa cups. recent disappointments have seen the team fall behind in the league and calls for him to step down. let's have a look at what people have been saying about his departure. breaking news, arsene wenger is leaving arsenal football club. it has been confirmed he will leave the clu b has been confirmed he will leave the club at the end of the season after over 20 years in charge. they have glossed over the cracks, but it is the right time? i am sad he is going andl the right time? i am sad he is going and i wonder who we will get next. the right time? i am sad he is going and i wonder who we will get nextlj ama and i wonder who we will get nextlj am a little shocked. i thought he would stay for a bit longer. u nfortu nately would stay for a bit longer. unfortunately he will not and i am
sad. he often said his aim was to leave the club in a better position than when he found it. well, we are ina than when he found it. well, we are in a better place today than we could ever have imagined 22 years ago. arsene wenger! arsene wenger! arsene wenger! and we can now talk to the person we just saw. robbie lyle, the presenter of arsenal fan tv. it has been a while since his name has wrung out through stadiums. things have not gone to plan. want a while. not a great season for arsenal. as we know, the only team in the area without a point. things have been going bad. the europa
league has been good, went to the semifinals and got a chance of winning it. but in the league this season and last season, it has just not been good enough. if anyone is not been good enough. if anyone is not familiar with some of the videos on your youtube channel, it has been fairly vitriolic of late. you interviewed some supporters outside matches and things have not gone to plan. it gets quite nasty. there is a bit ofa plan. it gets quite nasty. there is a bit of a split between arsenal fa ns a bit of a split between arsenal fans and the arsene wenger in, arsene wenger out camp i would say, to be honest, i do not think it has been a lot of anger this season. -- camp? last season there was a lot of anger with performances. i feel this season has turned to more apathy. people are like it is what it is and there is not much we can do about it. we will have to see what
happens. we allow fans to have opinions. i would say when we first started doing this five years ago, the majority of people were in favour of arsene wenger, i would say 80% in favour. through the years, it has dropped. are would say it really turned around this year. even the most ardent supporters of arsene wenger, those that love him, they have changed. not in a nasty way, we still love him, but they feel it is time for a change. even speaking to fa ns time for a change. even speaking to fans yesterday, many fans were sad he is going. there is one fan i spoke to, he said i am 21 and he is all i have known. it is a strange moment. but it is time for a change. that is what the majority of people we re that is what the majority of people were saying yesterday. that apathy has been reflected with empty seats in the stadium this season. of those
fa ns in the stadium this season. of those fans that want to see him go. they have now had that wish granted and he will leave at the end of the season. will they give him a good send off? i really think they will. i was chatting to many fans yesterday. i was hearing 99% of them saying we wanted him to leave, that is what some of them were saying, but they do not dislike him. they respect him and love what he has done for the club. he has given them some of their greatest moments. he is the manager. nothing personal, but they wanted a change. at the end of the day, the number one priority is arsenal football club. i think this is a good decision and they have done it at the right time. fans will get behind him and give him a good send off. you are hard—pressed to find someone who does not respect arsene wenger. i really think
sometimes some people misread some of these fans. they do not hate the quy- of these fans. they do not hate the guy. it is purely the football. they wa nt guy. it is purely the football. they want what is best for the club. they appreciate him, but it is that feeling towards the end. come on, we need to change. when you start to see empty seats in the stadium, because there has been a lot of apathy, they are voting with their feet. they say they cannot even be bothered to go. who would you like to see replace him? it would have to be alegri. that would allow them to change but still play the same football that you see under arsene wenger. ok. thank you. interesting to talk to you. thank you for
reflecting on his career. even though ardent fans think it is time he went... they still respect him. lovely to see. the fa cup, manchester united take on tottenham at wembley later. that is live on bbc one. for both sides, the only chance of finishing the season. tough game to play. they have an unbelievable squad. of course, jose mourinho is an incredible manager and knows what he needs to do. i think manchester united against totte n ha m , think manchester united against tottenham, cotton against manchester united, it will be an exciting semi—final. united, it will be an exciting semi-final. a second semi-final tomorrow. fulham remained on course tomorrow. fulham remained on course to stay with them next season with automatic emotion places after beating millwall. they could worry the very best with scores like this. look at this goal from kevin mcdonald. what a cracker. two points
ahead of cardiff in third. cardiff have two games in hand. johanna konta is tried to level things up against japan konta is tried to level things up againstjapan in the third cup. she is playing against karumi nara, the first set is 6—4. all the action is on the bbc website. that is to go to the world group two, the next level of the competition. the first rubber, just an hour ago, watson lost to osaka. the doubles will take place on sunday. gloucester are through to the final of the european challenge cup, beating newcastle 20— 12. they got four tries. this was the pick of the bunch. the super
league. st helens defeated huddersfield and wigan defeated castleford. sam tomkins kicked four goals. wigan are two points behind st helens. the world snooker championship gets under way at sheffield later. the scene is set. you can keep in touch with it on bbc tv and radio and on line. ronnie o'sullivan, a five—time champion, in great form. already winning five ranking events this year and looking relaxed. lovely weather for a dark and snooker hall. -- darkened. take it outside, revolutionised the sport. if it rains, take a brolly. what is happening with the weather? coming up. the surely. —— see you shortly. after the flight of fantasy i bring
you another one, yes, a glorious start to the weekend. it will not last. i will urge you to get outside and enjoy today certainly for many parts because which has brought this extraordinary spell of weather gives way to this cold weather fronts coming in from the atlantic. it will bea coming in from the atlantic. it will be a feature for all of us at some point in the course of sunday. the some of you, a bit earlier than that. some low cloud across to the eastern side of the midlands and one or two showers already down towards the far south—west of the channel islands. they may, and the recent uncertainty about this, but the ﬂight uncertainty about this, but the flight path will be gradually pushing through the south—west of wales, the midlands, on towards the north of england. still warm, not as warm as it today but above seasonal, and the front becoming a plough across western isles as early as this afternoon. then through the course of this evening, the showers could become thunderstorms across northern and eastern parts of the
british isles as we start the new day on sunday. the weather front becomes more of a playerfor day on sunday. the weather front becomes more of a player for the western fringes of the british isles. as a crib sets wait a little bit further east you will know all about it. that would be the most sparkling of days. the front is across northern ireland, north and western england down through wales, there is still some heat ahead of it and it may spark one or two pretty sharp showers there, a thunderstorm, but it will still push towards 22 or 23 but behind the weather front, 12, 13, 14, closer to the seasonal norm. the race of the most part will be run ahead in london of the weather front so work on the basis of really warm and you won't go far wrong with all the inherent dangers of dehydration, sunburn, sunstroke, et cetera. then as we move into the start of the new week, we go back to something more seasonal, do remember it is only the third week in april so it is only the third week in april so it will be a westerly wind, no more great big high—pressure, no
more great big high—pressure, no more great big high—pressure, no more great big high as heat either. this front comes in from the atla ntic this front comes in from the atlantic and spreads will cloud and wind and rain and the temperatures will not be too shabby but are shocked to the system considering many of you have been — the last two or three days next week, by complete contrast to what has gone before will be a good deal call for all parts. not freezing by any means. quite breezy, low pressure towards the north of scotland will bring that and showers and spells of rain because of fronts like that. as i said, remember if you are anywhere involved with the london marathon, it could be one of the warmest on record. certainly too warm for me. and glad i ran it when it was a fraction cooler. thank you, phil. you're watching breakfast from bbc news. we'll be back with the headlines at 8am. now it's time for newswatch. hello, welcome to newswatch with me, samira ahmed. has bbc news been too quick to accept the british government's narrative of what is happening in syria? and how does middle east editor
jeremy bowen face the challenge of getting to the truth about that country's civil war? who is doing what to whom in syria, and what the west can or should do about it has been much argued over in the seven years since pro—democracy protests sparked the civil war there. the debate has been particularly impassioned since saturday's air strikes by the us, the uk and france in retaliation for the suspected chemical weapons attack two weeks ago by president assad's forces. and part of the discussion has focused on how the bbc has reported that alleged attack and the military response to it. brian tickle described himself as: max retallack agreed, e—mailing us to say:
well, one guest who did provide a sceptical perspective was former head of the royal navy, lord west. speaking to annita mcveigh on the news channel on monday, he said the sources for the supposed chemical attack were not neutral, warned that we have had some bad experiences on intelligence before, and added the idea of president assad unleashing a chemical attack on douma seemed extraordinary. he'd had a long, long, hard slog, slowly capturing the whole area of the city. and then just before he goes in and takes it all over, apparently he decides
to have a chemical attack. itjust doesn't ring true. we know that the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov said on friday, or accused a western state on friday, of perhaps fabricating evidence in douma or somehow being involved with what happened in douma, given that we are in an information war with russia on so many fronts, do you think perhaps it is inadvisable to be stating this so publicly, given your position and your profile? isn't there a danger that you're muddying the waters? that question was considered inappropriate by some of those watching, with caitlinjohnstone reacting like this: and others agreed.
harry carson tweeted: well, we put those points to bbc news, and they told us: well, one of those with the task of providing some clarity on syria's civil war through reports from the region, or, as he's been doing this week, thorough analysis from here in london, is the bbc‘s middle east editorjeremy bowen, and hejoins me now. welcome back to newswatch. the last time we spoke, it was also about syria. how hard is it now to get to the truth of what has been happening in syria? well, it is always hard, it has always been hard, to be honest. it was pretty hard before the war as well because of the nature of the regime. but since the war started, it's always difficult. if you are working in daily news, or sometimes when i'm in syria we might spend a week putting together one piece that runs, you've just got to do your best.
dig through things as much as you can, use basicjournalistic tools like your eyes and your ears to try to find out what is going on. but, no, it's not easy, it's hard. one of the other things that seems to have changed over the last few years is the role of social media. there are concerns about governments using it as a way of asserting their version of events. what impact does it have on you reporting? well, you know... maybe i shouldn't admit this, i don't look at social media that much. i keep an eye on twitter. i put things on twitter. but i think that social media has changed our job. things fly around the world much more quickly, and social media is a big part of that. but i don't think that the essence of journalism has changed. you still need to find out what's been going on, you still need to be accurate, you still need to be timely. you still need to be fair. your colleague, lyse doucet, is out there now in syria.
you have, of course, been many times as well. when you are on the ground, inevitably, you probably find yourself embedded with either the syrian government or the rebels. is it possible to get the whole picture that way? well, when you do syria, you basically either do the rebels or you do the government. because to do the government's side, you need a visa, issued in beirut at the syrian embassy. if they find out that you have been working on the rebels' side, you will get blacklisted and you will not get another visa. the thing about daily news is that it's a snapshot of what's going on. and you really do your best to try to make that snapshot as sharp and as true as possible. but it's sometimes not the last word, because if it is a breaking story, we might have very little time to put it together. so the key thing is to be accurate. don't say things you don't know. try to give people a flavour of what it is like to be there. but, most of all, it's got to be real, it's got to be true. there has been, or there have been, some significant voices,
including lord west, former head of the royal navy, who said that there is some doubt about the chemical attack. what would you say? well, until there are definitive scientific tests from the site, saying, "yes, we found traces of whatever it may be, chlorine or sarin, or nothing," then we don't know. up to now, it's been governments saying, "yeah, we've got intelligence, we've got information." and i must say, they must have very efficient intelligence services if they can get stuff out of eastern ghouta that quickly and get it analysed. but maybe they have men on the inside. who knows? as well as that, there's the evidence of testimony from people, and there's also the pictures. i've seen lots of them, i've seen all of them that i could, which showed lots and lots of dead people, lots of children dead as well, with foam all around their mouths, which tends to be a sign of having used chemical weapons. and those scenes were so realistic
that i would find it very hard to believe they could be faked. now, maybe something else caused that. but no, that is why we have been quite careful to use phrases like "suspected chemical attack". we haven't been saying, "yeah, it's a chemical attack." because some viewers feel that the bbc has been too quick to treat it from the british government's assertions? well, i don't think we are treating from the british government's assertions. i think that if you get reports and testimony from people that there are possibly dozens dead because of an attack and there were clouds of some kind of white smoke, people were dying, foaming at the mouth, you've got to take those kinds of things seriously. considering the track record in that particular country, we are very sceptical, i am very sceptical, about what governments say. really, believe me. if viewers look at our scripts, we are careful with the language we use. do you have any frustrations about the coverage of syria?
yeah, of course. access is one. sometimes it's very hard to get visas to get in. sometimes we wait months. you know, i see people on twitter saying, "why isn't jeremy bowen in syria?" answer — i haven't got a visa! so, yeah, access, visas, ability to move around when you're there. and there are other kinds of frustrations as well. i get frustrated — i have an ongoing dialogue here, a long—running dialogue in this building between myself and programme editors which, frankly, has been going on in different versions for about 30 years, which is i think we should show more of the horror. because i think people need to see that realism. the policy here, though, is that we should be a lot more considerate of people's feelings and not upset them. my argument is, you know — and it's an amiable argument that we have here — but my argument is that you see people watching video games, and there's a lot of shooting going on and it's completely
unrealistic because it's a video game. and you see people watching tv dramas, shooting and killing, and it's completely unrealistic because it's a tv drama. but if you see real shooting, and real killing, and the effect sometimes high explosives have on humans, and the suffering that it causes, then you get closer to the essence of what being in a war is. and i actually do think that if people have a better idea of that, they might be even more... they might find it even more abhorrent than they already do. jeremy bowen, thank you. just time before we go to mention some reaction to the bbc‘s coverage of a story it's very much involved in itself. sir cliff richard has been in the high court this week, suing the bbc after it named him and broadcast helicopter footage of police searching his flat in august 2014. that footage has been shown again, several times, over the past few days, prompting angela dillon to write: and david metcalf echoed that.
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