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today at 5 — crunch time for the prime minister, as she arrives in salzburg to present her brexit plan to eu leaders. mrs may is expected to tell the eu not to demand "unacceptable" terms in negotiations over the irish border after the european council president donald tusk said the uk's plans would need to be reworked. today there is perhaps more hope. but there is surely less and less time. i'm damian grammaticus, live in salzburg. we'll have the latest on her meeting, and we'll be talking to former ukip leader nigel farage. the other main stories on bbc news at 5... two people have died as storm ali brings winds of up to 100 miles an hour, with a woman swept to her death in a caravan in ireland and all trains cancelled in scotland.
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the government announces plans to make an extra £2 billion available to build more affordable social housing in england. it's 5 o'clock. our main story is that theresa may has warned the eu not to push what she calls "unacceptable" proposals to try to settle the irish border question after brexit. the prime minister is in austria for an eu summit and tonight at dinner, she has 10 minutes to present the uk's point of view to her fellow leaders. the eu's chief brexit negotiator, michel barnier, says he's willing to offer new plans to end the deadlock on the irish border, but warns that the negotiations are facing a "moment of truth".
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our europe correspondent damian grammaticas is in salzburg. the leaders will start to arrive in the coming so, for that dinner and thatis the coming so, for that dinner and that is the time when theresa may will get a small portion of the dinner to address the other leaders, a window of about ten minutes, she will have, to try to convince them about the merits of what she is putting forward. we know that michel barnier has been talking about softening the eu's ideas for ways to avoid a border on the island of ireland. the uk side have indicated that it would still be unacceptable to them because it would see a
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customs border drawn down between parts of the uk. mrs may will have just that short time to change eu leaders‘ minds. this salzburg summit on the edge of the alps marks the start of the final arduous ascent to a brexit deal. the decisive phase of the talks start here, as eu leaders will, behind closed doors, plot their strategy for the coming weeks. here's one part of that — michel barnier, eu chief negotiator, last night said he's prepared to soften the eu proposal for how to avoid a new border in ireland. we can also clarify that most checks can take place away from the border, at a company premises, or in the markets. we need to de—dramatise the checks that are needed — these checks are caused by the uk's decision to leave the eu, its single market and the customs union. but that's not a major
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shift, just a way to make the idea more palatable. they move at the last possible minute, after they have tested your mettle and taken you to the cliff edge, to use that phrase everyone's fond of, and that's what will happen. it is here at northern ireland's ports, not at the land border with our ireland, that some other checks may still be needed. but the uk still isn't buying it. we have been very clear that we will not accept something that separates out our united kingdom, creating some sort of customs border between great britain and northern ireland. that would be unacceptable constitutionally, economically and indeed i would question its consistency with the belfast good friday agreement. the problem is the eu won't accept the uk alternative. won't accept the uk's alternative. behind closed doors, theresa may will tonight try to persuade eu leaders her idea of a customs deal followed by the chequers plan is a workable way to lock down a brexit deal. it seems the best mrs may can hope
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for tonight will be some warm words. eu leaders are not going to negotiate with her, they're not going to change their position to the talks and they are not going to instruct mr barnier to compromises at this stage. instead they will do the opposite, they will say that the uk has to agree to a solution to the irish border if it wants an exit treaty. the coming weeks will see fraught and difficult talks if the deal is to be sealed. eu leaders will not engage in discussions with mrs may tonight. they themselves will have their own private session tomorrow morning to discuss their approach to the coming weeks of brexit negotiations. we know that donald tusk is now going to call for a special summit in november, that means this summit, the one in october, one in november, the one in october, one in november,
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the crucial points at which a brexiter deal could be done. we also know that the eu side say they believe that the uk has already agreed, as long ago as the end of last year, that northern ireland in the eventuality that it was needed could remain under the eu's customs and single market rules to avoid a border. and donald tusk said again today that it is the uk side that needs to adjust its proposals, here is what he said... i would like to stress that some of prime minister may‘s proposals from chequers indicate a positive evolution in the uk's approach as well as a will to minimise the negative effects of brexit. by this, i mean among other things, the readiness to cooperate closely in the area of security and foreign policy. on other issues such as the irish question, or the framework for economic co—operation, the uk's proposals will need to be reworked
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and further negotiated. today, there's perhaps more hope but there's surely less and less time. therefore, everyday that is left, we must use for talks. eu and donald tusk know that one of the key issues for mrs may is whether she can get any deal from parliament at the end of the negotiation process. and the key to that are bmps from northern ireland upon whom she relies in the commons. vicki young, what has been said today? i think the issue here is that we are hearing about warm words, we're hearing about hope, there's talk about another summit to get the deal done, and the reality
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for some is, looking at this, they're saying, who is going to have to shift? the uk government feels very much that they've come to compromise, they're very much that they've come to compromise, they‘ re putting very much that they've come to compromise, they're putting it on the table, and that's as far as they can go. and what they've heard so farfrom mr barnier they can go. and what they've heard so far from mr barnier they don't feel is going to be good enough. you say, of course, an important intervention today by the democratic unionist party, who represent a large number of people in northern ireland and also who prop up the tory government here. they are helping theresa may stay in power. so what they think is crucially important, and this is how they received what mr barnier had to say today. a crucial, if fundamental point about the eu backstop which mr barnier is adhering to is that it would separate northern ireland into a separate customs regime and regulator in regime from the rest of the united kingdom. so that is u na cce pta ble the united kingdom. so that is unacceptable and the prime minister has said it is unacceptable to any british prime minister. the labour party have made that clear as well. what the eu need to do now is to
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recognise that it can't keep the single market of europe at the expense of dividing up the single market of the united kingdom, that can't happen. if that wasn't enough, theresa may had come up with her so—called chequers deal, but the problem is that that is not pleasing anybody. on the one side she's got people who campaigned for remain saying, this is pointless, we're still going to be taking the rules from the eu, that's what brexiteers think as well, so even if she gets this dealfrom the think as well, so even if she gets this deal from the eu she think as well, so even if she gets this dealfrom the eu she is going to struggle to get it through parliament. and really know one here is able to predict what is likely to happen between now and the moment we leave next march. the eu side here i think well aware of the political constraints on mrs may and there are many observers on the eu side of things who believe that that will actually be the issue where the
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brexit deal could fall, at the final hurdle, at that parliamentary ratification. but they still insist that the deal must include a solution to the northern ireland border, and that is the biggest stumbling block. we will be back with damian grammaticus a little later on. continuing with brexit, i'm joined by the former leader of ukip nigel farage. thanks for coming in. can wejust agree on the priorities first of all, as outlined by damian grammaticus, that the irish border question is easily the most difficult problem which is still on the table? and easily the most soluble, a simple free—trade deal and what is the problem? a tariff—free deal and there is no
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debate. ongoing issues, different tax rates and vat regimes but they exist already! here is the thing about salzburg, we're going into this in as i have position. we agreed to an irish backstop last december which has become a millstone around the neck of this government and we saw dup complaining about it part but they are supporting a government that signed up to this! the prime minister is prepared to make huge concessions to the european union,including continued concessions to the european union, including continued regulatory alignment. we go into this in a weak position and mrs may's opening gambit is, these don't be horrible, please don't be nasty, please be reasonable. and yet i don't think we understand our position. i was in strasbourg last week and i met both jean—claude juncker and michel barnier and i sense the change of mood. there will be to—ing and fro—ing over the next eight weeks of negotiations but what i detect is german industry particularly putting
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massive pressure on the european commission and on mrs merkel saying, six months to go, for goodness' sake, if can we please have a tariff—free sake, if can we please have a ta riff—free access sake, if can we please have a tariff—free access to one of our most important marketplaces in the world ? most important marketplaces in the world? the opportunity for a calendar plus style trade deal is better than it has been at any point in the brexit negotiations. but my fear is that the prime minister has boxed herself into a very bad position tenable german industry is a pretty powerful machine, if that pressure is there, why isn't it more evident? for 20 years i've been told by neil kinnock when he was a commissioner, i have been told by giscard d'estaing who wrote the european constitution, i've been told by everybody, nigel, if if you wa nt to told by everybody, nigel, if if you want to leave the european union and just have a free—trade deal, that's fine by us. last march donald tusk said, if britain wants a free—trade deal, let's start to talk. here is the bizarre thing. the british prime minister made clear she did not want
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a free—trade deal, she wanted to keep us opted very closely to many of the european structures... for economic reasons. you could argue whatever reasons you want but quite why you need to stay close to the european medicines agency for economic reasons is actually... here is the bizarre thing. we have spent four decades trying to opt out of various bits of the european union, if we vote to leave in a referendum and we now have a prime minister who wa nts to and we now have a prime minister who wants to opt us back into parts of the european union! i honestly believe that if his government and mrs may presses the reset button and says, we are actually leaving, all the associated parts of the european union, if but we would like a cannabis style trade deal, i think they would bite her arms off. there have been many warnings recently... they outlined their case, the chancellor happened to say that we should listen to them as well... they always do! but you know as well
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as anybody, the case is that our economic well—being would be damaged with a brexit deal which didn't actually allow us to maintain some kind of measurable, good access to these markets and coming up with a no brexit deal in a disorderly fashion would be very damaging indeed, are they all wrong? fashion would be very damaging indeed, are they all wrong7m fashion would be very damaging indeed, are they all wrong? if you haven't noticed, china and america haven't noticed, china and america have huge access to the european market without any trade deal whatsoever. i will take you to southampton tomorrow morning, watch the container ships coming in. you don't need straight deals to do business. it can make it easier and cheaper and i buy that but it's not the end of the world not to have it. but aren't we missing the point of the referendum here? the referendum wasn't about whether gdp goes up or down by i%, it was about leaving political union and becoming an independent country. and that is the issue that neither the conservative party nor the labour party wishes to
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address. when you said back in 2016 about northern ireland, you said, if use for no reason why the current soft border arrangements could not continue unaffected. , they're discussing that today and clearly other people do see a big reason for that and that is why we are where we area? that and that is why we are where we are a? no, ithink that and that is why we are where we are a? no, i think mr barnier has used this brilliantly in the negotiations, terrified the british establishment into making a bizarre set of concessions. if we have a canada set of concessions. if we have a ca na da style set of concessions. if we have a canada style trade deal there is no need for any concern whatsoever over the irish border. all we do with the tariff regime is add to taxation differences and currency differences and we do it through trusted trader scheme and technology — none of this is difficult. when he says he is making concessions and offering some new ideas about the border issue, is he doing that in your view or is it windowdressing? no, i genuinely think the ebbs and flows of debate that we get in negotiation, i
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genuinely believe there is a much more corporative tone coming from brussels that we have seen in the last couple of years. we just need to press the reset button, there is an amazing opportunity here for us to break away politically from the european union on the basis of terror free—trade and do you know what, get on with the rest of our lives. what is it about the cheque is deal which you think could convince parliament about this? if mrs may comes back with a cheque is deal more or less intact, it is a big if, what happens then in parliament? that is the big question just labour have now made it clear they will oppose whatever, emily thornberry made that perfectly clear last friday. so we have the bizarre situation where you have tory sceptics saying chequers is unacceptable because it stops us making our own laws for our own industry, it ties us to a lawmaking system over which we have no sage if and yet if chequers gets agreed, mrs may says, will you vote me down? you
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will either get ajeremy may says, will you vote me down? you will either get a jeremy corbyn government or a second referendum. and so the bizarre thing with all of this is that politically mrs may is much stronger in the united kingdom than many people realise. much stronger in the united kingdom than many people realisem much stronger in the united kingdom than many people realise. if there we re than many people realise. if there were to be some kind of vote by some chance on the final deal, what would your view be? i am a veteran, i saw the maastricht treaty and i saw bill there is the eurosceptics back in there is the eurosceptics back in the day faced with a challenge, do you vote down your own government and risk labour getting in? and in the end they decided to stick with the end they decided to stick with the party. i think there are some issues that are bigger than whether labour or the conservatives get in andi labour or the conservatives get in and i believe brexit was about the independence of our nation, the biggest political question we will face in our lifetimes. i would say to the tory eurosceptics, if stick to the tory eurosceptics, if stick to your principles. the trouble is, in politics, careers normally win. so you think mrs may...? in politics, careers normally win. so you think mrs may. . . ? this is the
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first of three big negotiations, let's not overplay salzburg, we will go on from here to the 18th of october in brussels and then there will be a special summit in the middle of november. i've been to about 100 european summits over my yea rs about 100 european summits over my years as an mvp. the only deals that ever happen are about... absolutely just cornish pasties, parma ham and champagne, all familiar brands which could be possible obstacles to britain's smooth departure from the eu. the place where a product is made can be a very valuable part of the brand, and the eu wants that protected, after brexit. adam fleming reports from one of europe's most famous wine—making regions. if you've celebrated anything recently with a bottle of fizz, and it was champagne, it was produced in this region of france, which has become a battleground
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in the brexit talks. it's over the eu's system of geographical indications, gis, which protect products that have a link to a particular location. if your patch earns a gi, then no—one else can use the name in the eu. the producers love it. people know that champagne only comes from champagne, that region, so it's really important. and we have a good organisation fighting for that worldwide. it's notjust things made from grapes, there are more than 3000 other products on the list, including parma ham, balsamic vinegar and feta cheese. and there are some british gis like scotch whisky and cornish pasties. the eu wants the uk to guarantee all the existing gis under british law after brexit. the government hasn't agreed to that, but some voices in britain think the whole thing is a barrier to free trade. it's quite impossible to understand, you know, i would say
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boo—a00 kilometres from here, that not respecting, you know, the tradition and the name the very important name of french wine or italian wine. it might sound a bit weird that wine and cheese have become this kind of roadblock, but grumbles about gis have been a feature of global trade for decades. for example, america makes its own champagne, much to their annoyance. i'm very sad, it's american sparkling, it's californian sparkling, but it's not american champagne. if there's no brexit deal on this, there's no brexit deal at all, and no celebratory fizz for the brexit negotiators. adam fleming reporting there from champagne, france. there are many questions remaining
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about the nature of post—brexit britain, so it's time once again to take your questions on brexit and ask what the uk's future outside the eu will look like, in ask this. with me is our business editor, simonjack. we're going to field a few questions and there is a selection coming from social media and e—mail and indeed some questions that have been found in as well. firstly, can we tackle that one,which is to do with... my husband is a consultant structural engineer, safety net. all his working life he has worked to strict eu codes, just wondering where we stand as a business if we leave? there are two ways of looking at this. the theresa may plan which is on the table at the moment is that
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we would have what is called a common fall book for goods but not the services. so there is a chance that service standards and codes in things like structural engineering could diverging overtime. what i would say is that we are starting from the same place could starting into full alignment, so it would ta ke into full alignment, so it would take some time to do that. and what the government has said many areas, we are not in the business of dilating standards, so they will keep them up, they're not going to suddenly say, we are going to make buildings that will fall down. so i think that there will be very little difference immediately, but it could change overtime. the thing is that when we try and separate out the goods from services, it's not that straightforward. when you sell goods that can be the beginning of the transaction, not the end. when rolls—royce sells an engine to an airline, sometimes they sell at a loss but they have a 20 year service contract after that. so it is not
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straightforward. i would say it could diverging as time goes by. but little difference at first. and this one. . . little difference at first. and this one... how will we bridge the employment skills gap after brexit? this is a good one because we have about 2—3 million eu migrant nationals working in the uk. we also have the lowest unemployment rate we have the lowest unemployment rate we have had since 1975 so it is not as if there are lots of spare brits around to fill the roles that these 2.3 million eu workers fill. areas like hospitality are very worried about this. if you go to a hotel or about this. if you go to a hotel or a coffee bar the chances are you may have been served by an eu national. the migratory commission said yesterday that they wanted to get rid of the cap on skills migration from all around the world and make the eu exactly the same but make it harderfor the eu exactly the same but make it harder for lower skilled workers to come in. at the moment you can get a tear to visa from the rest of the world and you have to be earning
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£35,000 and have a certain number of permits per year. i think for some industries, not agriculture, but for some industries like hospitality, thatis some industries like hospitality, that is a possibility. moving on to this one... is it likely that the pound will depreciate suddenly again when we leave like it did after the referendum? and if so what measures are being taken to prevent it happening again? when the referendum vote ca m e happening again? when the referendum vote came in the pound cropped very sharply from about $1.5 to $1.19, one of the sharpest falls we have ever seen just one of the sharpest falls we have ever seenjust since then one of the sharpest falls we have ever seen just since then it has come back to about $1.30. the more likely we crusher with no deal, the wea ker likely we crusher with no deal, the weaker the pound has got. if it looks like we don't get any progress in salzburg and at the summit in november, you could expect the pound to weaken, which matters because we import more than we are experts so
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that could push prices up. what could we do to stop it? —— more than we export. usually the playbook is that the bank of england would put up that the bank of england would put up interest rates to make pound deposits more attractive. whether you would want to start putting interest rates up at the moment we're crashing out of the eu is very questionable indeed. so we could see we'll volatility in the pound as these negotiations go on. thanks for that one. this one says... after brexit will we have enough customs and excise personnel at airports and ports to cope with much larger eu entries into the uk? hmrc has already said it has hired an extra 3000 people and it says that it will need to hire 5000 more from here, because at the moment, you go in and out and it is seamless transactions with no customs checks, no tariffs, all that kind of stuff. hmrc reckons that there will be millions and millions of more customs declarations, it will cost businesses on both sides of the
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channel up to £20 billion and yes, we will need thousands more customs officials, so if that is a job you fancy... there are openings there. indeed. this one does not want to be named... how could all of this affect the housing market? we touched on this with kamal ahmed yesterday but what is your reading? so, there was a report going out that mark carney warns that a no deal brexit could take 35% off house prices. he did not actually say that, he said they had modelled a lot of bad scenarios and brexit is not worse than the worst ones we have done. so we reckon the banks and what have you could cope with that. obviously, if you are sending out the news that we are not going to let in more eu nationals, that could reduce the pressure, or the demand, on the number of houses. the government is very keen to build more houses and if you have got more supply and less demand, you could
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see a softening of the housing market, and there is some evidence that that is already happening. figuring out how much the housing market could be affected is very, very tricky, there are still a great amount of demand and a shortage of supply and you think that actually that construction of supply should support it but it has already got a bit softer. there are a few more but we have covered quite a bit of ground. and tomorrow, another chance to have some of your questions our europe editor katya adler willjoin us from the eu summit in salzburg at 5.30 tomorrow. send in your questions using the hashtag #bbcaskthis or text us on 61124 and you can email us too at time for a look at the weather, with darren bett. hello, huw. the amber wind warning
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from the met office is about to expire, at six o'clock, we are seeing the worst of the wind clearing away now. it has left us with quite a bit of damage and disrupt in and still some very gusty winds into the early part of the evening as well. things will calm down a bit overnight. we will see this rain pupping up a bit across the south—west and into wales and the south—west and into wales and the midlands towards lincolnshire. south of that's very warm air. to the north of it, cooler conditions, cooler than we have seen for quite some time. even in the far north of the winds will drop. much lighter winds tomorrow for scotland and northern ireland. jump hours in the north—west for a while but thickening cloud coming from the south—west. it should be dry for most of the day in the midlands, east anglia and the south—east of england and still feeling quite warm
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as well. into the evening and overnight, we are looking at the rainfall continuing to bring some flooding issues, particularly across wales and north—west england. it could be as much as for inches of rain over the highest ground and widely across england and wales into thursday night the winds will be strengthening and. this is bbc news. the headlines: it's crunch time for the prime minister as she arrives in salzburg to present her brexit plan to eu leaders. it comes after the european council president donald tusk said the uk's plans for the irish border would need to be reworked. today there's perhaps more hope, but there is surely less and less time. bbc news has learned that a review into maternity errors at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust is now examining more than 100 cases. two people have died as storm ali brings winds of up to 100 miles an hour,
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with a woman swept to her death in a caravan in ireland and all trains cancelled in scotland. let's get the sport now with sarah mulkerrins. good afternoon. well after the late drama for liverpool and spurs last night, the champions league is all about the two manchester clubs tonight. premier league champions, city begin their campaign without their manager though, when they host lyon. pep guardiola will be watching from the stands, as he's serving a touchline ban after he was sent off during last season's quarter final defeat to liverpool. his assistant, mikel arteta will look after the team. and the former arsenal star has already taken a step up, replacing guardiola at the official press conference ahead of the match where he claimed city can go far in the competition this year. we feel that we are better prepared
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than the previous two years in the champions league. we are preparing every single detail to how we have done it in the past because we can believe we can do better. it is a very open champions league, as was the case last season. it will be the case this season and i think there will be surprises because the difference between the teams is not that big. as for manchester united, they're away to young boys in the swiss capital bern, where they'll play on an artificial pitch. united are going for a third straight away win in all competitions and manager jose mourinho thinks their season's been heading in the right direction, since that 3—0 defeat to spurs at old trafford last month. i was happy after the tottenham defeat. not with the result but with many other things that we saw. we felt that much was ok. the defeat,
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but it was the beginning of our improvements. so we managed that in two difficult matches away. if you can win matches away. elsewhere cristiano ronaldo is set to make his champions legaue debut forjuventus, while real madrid get the defence of their title under way. two early kick offs in around 20 minutes. the rest kick off at 8:00pm tonight. full coverage across radio 5live and the bbc sport website. ben stokes and alex hales have been included in england's one—day squad to tour sri lanka this autumn, after being charged by the ecb with bringing the game into disrepute. the pair face a disciplinary hearing in decemberfollowing an incident outside a bristol nightclub in 2017. and that hearing will take place between england's tours to sri lanka and west indies. this is the full squad, which includes warwickshire bowler olly stone —
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he's been given a first call—up, as a replacement for liam plunkett, who will miss the first three matches for his wedding. the chair of uk sport, dame katherine grainger, has added her voice to calls for russia to remain banned from world athletics. the world anti—doping agency's executive committee is expected to end a three—year suspension of russia's anti—doping agency when they meet on thursday. the move has been criticised by athletes, anti—doping bodies and now the most powerful figure in british olympic and paralympic sport. grainger says: "the integrity of sport and competition has to be protected to maintain public trust and support. this responsibility rests with leaders at every level." england's netballers have been beaten by australia 52—47 in the quad series. it was the first time the two sides sides have met since england's historic win in the final of the commonwealth games
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earlier this year. england centre serena guthrie spoke to the bbc after the game. we made a few errors and we can't be that callous with the ball. it is throughout the whole game, and how the momentum shifts. we didn't win enough clean bowls. halfway through the third, we were showing them a clea n the third, we were showing them a clean ball and they were pretty clinical. we'll have more for you in sportsday at 6.30. storm ali has been bringing strong winds to ireland and parts of the uk. a woman died when the caravan she was in was blown off a cliff in galway. in scotland and northern ireland, 90 mile per hour winds have brought down trees and power lines. our correspondent lauren moss has this report torn from the top of a cliff in 90
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mile an hour winds. this caravan was swept away in galway. the woman inside guide. a fallen tree in a country park in northern ireland has killed one man and injured another. storm ali batters the uk. trees have crushed cars and blocked roads and dozens crushed cars and blocked roads and d oze ns of crushed cars and blocked roads and dozens of flights have been cancelled and thousands of people have been left without power in some areas. on rocky season at the port of greenock, a cruise ship was tracked away from its moorings. fortu nately, tracked away from its moorings. fortunately, no one was injured. some roads have been closed causing chaos but drivers. this is the m1 in northern ireland, which will shut due to fallen power cables. and the m6 in cumbria blocked after a lorry was blown over. choppers have been forced to break the wind and the rain and children in some areas of scotla nd rain and children in some areas of scotland have been kept in school to prevent them from walking home. there has been this disruption for
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schools and we wanted to keep the children safe, so we have extended the school day, which is never popular but the safest place is to keep the children in a place of safety a nd keep the children in a place of safety and we have moved the buses back a little bit until the worst of the weather has passed so we can open the route so the children living in the rural areas can get home. scotrail says there is severe disruption to train services tonight and the advice is not to travel. the first storm of the autumn has prompted the met office to issue an amber alert until 6pm this evening. which means it could lead to injuries are a danger to life. the woman who lost her life here this morning hasn't been named but is believed to be a swiss tourist, who was asleep when the storm winds struck. a yellow weather warning for northern ireland, scotland and much of northern england remains in place until 10pm tonight with anyone heading out told to be prepared for traffic disruption. laura moss, bbc
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news. dozens of families have come forward in the past month and claimed that their babies died unnecessarily or suffered life changing injuries because of mistakes made at an nhs trust. the bbc has learned that a review into maternity errors at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust is now looking at what happened to more than 100 babies going back to the year 2000. the families have come forward after the bbc revealed last month that there were ongoing concerns about errors made by maternity staff at the trust. theresa may has announced plans to make an extra £2 billion available to build more affordable housing and social housing in england. councils, housing associations and other bodies can bid for the money for new projects from 2022. the prime minister says she wants to remove what she called the "stigma" surrounding social housing, as our correspondent richard lister reports. at this site in south london, they're building a mix of private and social housing, homes that are badly needed —
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notjust in the capital, but across the country, where demand for affordable housing far outstrips supply. today the prime minister announced an additional £2 billion for housing associations to build more homes. under the scheme, associations will be able to apply for funding stretching as far ahead as 2028—29, the first time any government has offered housing associations such long—term certainty. mrs may said it was time to end the stigma that many people still attached to social housing. many people in society, including too many politicians, continue to look down on social housing and, by extension, the people who call it their home. mrand mrs parkerapplied to buy their house... it was this tory prime minister who really shook up the housing market with an emphasis on home ownership which still reverberates today. but those who couldn't afford to buy were left in sink estates run by housing associations.
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it's very good to hear that the government now wants to be able to invest in housing associations, notjust this year but in a much more strategic way into the future. but there's a long way to go. the government says it has built more than 357,000 affordable properties since 2010, but a survey this year found a shortfall of 30,000 affordable homes every year since 2011, which could create a shortage of 335,000 homes by 2022. we have 180,000 families who are in temporary accommodation because we do not have enough social and affordable housing for them to live in. they are in that housing right now. we need funding right now. the grenfell disaster brought social housing issues into sharp focus. too little investment, too little attention. the government is now promising more of both. richard lister, bbc news. mark lawrence is the editor of 2a housing, a monthly magazine and website dedicated to social housing in the uk. thank you for coming in. broad
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response to what has been announced, what do you make of it? it is a welcome step, a significant change in tone from the government, especially over the last couple of yea rs. especially over the last couple of years. i don't think anyone in this sector would have believed the prime minister would have been speaking at the conference and saying those kind of things. but there is a lot of detail that is not there and that is what is concerning for the sector. if you were to list, prioritise the detail not there, what is the most important thing to be filled in? whether this is new money or if it is money taken from somewhere else and whether this £2 billion is the only money that is going to be given over this funding section. when you look at the kind of policy development over the last ten years,
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go back to the election of 2010, you had five years of a coalition government and then we had the first cameron government and now the theresa may government, how has policy developed in that time and there will be government people saying this represents actually quite a realistic and significant shift and you are suggesting it may not represent that? it is definitely a significant shift from the cameron, osborne era. the changes that were made to housing in that era were fundamental and they com pletely era were fundamental and they completely stripped back most of the funding for the sector. since then what we have seen is theresa may and i think assisted by gavin barwell, who was the former housing minister and now chief of staff, he has been very keen to reverse things like pay to stay and a couple of other bits and pieces that really hindered the sector. there has definitely been a marked improvement and i think the
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sector would be wrong if it was to say there were lots of improvements that have been made, especially over the last three years, the last two yea rs, the last three years, the last two years, sorry since theresa may took charge. just a final question, since the word stigma was used, is there a stigma attached to social housing or not? definitely, it is something the sector has to work hard to get away from. i think theresa may was com pletely from. i think theresa may was completely correct in what she was saying earlier, that social housing te na nts a re saying earlier, that social housing tenants are not second class citizens. they shouldn't be living in second class homes and there is a real need to look at mixed tenure developments to really tackle the problem. interesting, thank you for coming in. iwould problem. interesting, thank you for coming in. i would like to go back
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to salzburg whether european leaders are starting to gather for dinner later on at the end of their day of talks. lots of things on the talking menu, including brexit. theresa may will have about ten minutes, we think, to try and describe what is in head deal, to make a case that the chequers deal. asking the member states for more flexibility, from the uk's point of view in terms of coming forward with the final brexit deal. so many unknowns still and we we re deal. so many unknowns still and we were talking earlier about the big obstacle over the irish border question. nigel farage from ukip same there wasn't much to solving this problem, but everyone else seems to think it is a slightly bigger problem than that and michel barnier and theresa may among them. we'll see what happens at the end of these talks today and when they arrived, theresa may may possibly
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arrived, theresa may may possibly arrive in a few minutes and say a few words, we think. as soon as the prime minister turns up we will come back to that right away. but that is the scene right now in salzburg, a beautiful city where this summit is taking place among eu member states. detectives are investigating whether an incident in which a car hit pedestrians outside an islamic centre in london was a racist attack. police say the incident is being treated as a possible hate crime after three people were struck by the vehicle in cricklewood in north—west london. keith doyle has been to the scene around half past midnight this morning, this street was filled with hundreds of people leaving the ashura commemorations from the building behind me. at that stage, security guards approached a car that was parked nearby with four people in it. the police say there was then some altercation and then the security and stewards were subjected to what the police called a tirade of islamophobic and racist abuse from the people in the car. the car then drove off
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at members of the community. cctv footage shows some of that incident. the car mounted the pavement, according to police and seriously injure two people. although they are not in a critical condition. one of the men in this cctv footage gave his witness account. i didn't think about myself, ijust thought about other people. i was ready to die for other people because i'm here to help them, serve them and protect them. i volunteered to do this, it's like myjob to do that. and i didn't really think about myself because i ran towards the car. then after it passed me, i ran after it to make sure it's not going to hit no one more. so thank god i didn't get hit. the police said they are treating this as an islamophobic and hate crime, but they are not treating it at present as a terrorist incident. some representatives from the association here appealed for local people to remain tolerant and patient. they say they do have
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excellent relationships with the local community. the police are looking for the four people in the car and have put in place measures to ensure the rest of the commemorations pass off safely. the headlines on bbc news: the prime minister arrives in austria for a ten minute pitch to sell her chequers proposal to european leaders. ireland and parts of the uk are battered by storm ali, leaving two people dead, including a woman who was blown off a cliff in a caravan in galway. the government announces plans to make an extra £2 billion available to build more affordable and social housing in england. an update on the market numbers for you — here's how london's and frankfurt ended the day. and in the united states this is how the dow and the nasdaq are getting on. the rate of inflation has risen to its highest level in six months.
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thejump in august, to 2.7%, surprised many economists, who'd expected a slight fall. rising prices for recreational goods, transport and clothing are to blame, as our economics correspondent, andy verity, reports. this leicester—based food supplier makes its spring rolls, samosas and otherfrozen indian snacks by hand, but that means big labour costs, and it's also being squeezed by the surge in energy prices. with the raw material, that's going up, so potatoes — that's going up in price. the raw material like peas, carrots, that's less of a big pressure. the electricity, just in the last year the price has gone up by 20%. because we use electricity quite a lot because it's a frozen food business, that's something that's impacting us a lot as well, and wages as well — that's increasing over time. but wages aren't rising fast enough for many workers to feel obviously better off. yeah, things are going up, prices are going up. so it's a bit difficult. sometimes i feel very bad.
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everybody can't afford to buy all the things. earlier this year we had some good economic news. the squeeze on living standards had lifted. pay was finally rising faster than prices, meaning you could buy more with what you were paid. that's still happening, but with inflation at 2.7%, onlyjust. among the items driving up the cost of living were clothing and shoes. in the year to august, gas bills rose by 4.3%, electricity was up 7.4% and petrol jumped by 11.7%. there is still a lingering effect from the fall in the pound after the brexit referendum, and we see that in terms of very high imported prices, so import price inflation is still around 10% per annum. that means that energy costs are rising, at a pretty hefty pace. if you leave out volatile items such as energy and food, the rise in the cost of living looks a lot more manageable, just 2.1%. nevertheless, on the markets today
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the betting was that the bank of england would have to raise interest rates again by may next year. andy verity, bbc news. tesco has unveiled its new discount chain called ‘jack‘s', which it hopes will compete toe to toe with the likes of aldi and lidl. it's named after the founder of tesco, sirjack cohen and will operate alongside the supermarket‘s existing stores. the launch comes at a time when tesco is being squeezed, notjust by budget rivals, but by a possible merger between giants sainsbury‘s and asda. our business correspondent emma simpson reports. it's tesco, but not as you know it. this new chain is called jack's, after tesco's founder and we've got the first glimpse. and with me is tesco ceo dave lewis to show me around the store. morning, emma. welcome. dave, talk us through it. well, we are 100 years old in 1919, so as a team what we wanted to do
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in commemoration ofjack was do what he did best, which was think about what customers want and bring it to them in the most cost—effective value orientated way possible. so that's what you have here in chatteris. it's a discount store? it's a food orientated store. the thing that's really unique about this store is that eight out of ten food and drink products that we provide the customers here are either grown, reared or made here in britain. quite unique and it all comes together under one brand which is the jack's brand, which, as you say, is the founder of tesco. the big question is, is jack's going to be cheaper than aldi or lidl? the objective forjack‘s is to be the lowest cost for customers in the marketplace. so you're going to be cheaper than aldi or lidl? that's the intention. so, will this work? several other retailers have tried a discount chain before and failed. catherine shuttleworth
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is a retail expert. catherine, what do you think? well, the store looks great, but it's just one of two that are going to open tomorrow and we've learned 15 are going to open. to see whether it's got scale it will have to open in more locations. but what it does offer is great value to the shopper and the shoppers will ultimately decide whether this will survive or whether it will fail because they are looking for value and if it is the best value in their town, then it could work. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. let's see, i suppose it also shows just how shopping has changed. our business correspondent emma simpson reporting there. let's get some of the day's other news: a man has died after he was stabbed on a street in north london. the victim , who was 25, was found with wounds in the tufnell park area just before 9.30 last night. the man was given first aid by paramedics but died at the scene. the charity, citizens advice, is warning that 4 million people are being charged for mobile phones they already own. it says three of britain's biggest
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mobile phone networks, ee, three and vodafone, routinely carry—on charging customers extra, even once the cost of their handsets has been paid off. the north korean leader, kim jong—un, has agreed to shut one of the country's main missile testing and launch sites. he signed a pledge to permanently close the facility after talks in pyongyang with his south korean counterpart moon jae—in. mr moon said both leaders also "agreed on a way to achieve de—nuclearisation" on the korean peninsula. donald trump , has arrived in north carolina to see for himself the damage caused by hurricane florence. he handed out burgers to residents. the north carolina governor roy cooper has urged people to remain in shelters as floodwaters continue to rise across the state. that summit under way in salzburg
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between the european leaders. theresa may is given a chance to speak in defence of the chequers deal that was presented in the summer. it did promote the resignation of boris johnson summer. it did promote the resignation of borisjohnson and david davis from the cabin. but that is the plan theresa may said she is persisting with. she said if she doesn't get that, it will be no deal. so what did she have this 80 fellow leaders in salzburg at this eu summit. damian grammaticus joins us from salzburg. interesting, we have just started having the first arrivals of the leaders. the red carpet, isjust across the river from a year. theresa may has written in a german
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newspaper saying the uk has evolved its position and the eu needs to as well. the new chancellor was the first to arrive and he said that if we wa nt first to arrive and he said that if we want to make a deal, both sides need to compromise. that will be mel croom —— welcome i think to uk ears. but he went on to say we want everything possible to avoid the ha rd everything possible to avoid the hard brexit but we hope we will hear a step forward from the uk in mrs may's speech tonight. they are wanting mrs may to finesse her position. she will have those few minutes, but she will be making clear the uk views, pe you idea having checks on an irish border, if it was needed in future, if it is a constitutional threat to the uk, the
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eu are saying there has to be a backstop, you agree to it in december so it has to be made to work somehow. i want to see some images of the prime minister in a so—called bilateral meeting with the belgian prime minister earlier today. they seemed pretty relaxed and they are smiling and chatting. when we think of the range of leaders taking part in this summit, who do you think will present the cheekiest challenge for theresa may? the french are often seen as the major nation digging in the hardest. taking the sort of toughest line, if you like in the negotiations. belgium, often seen as one of those countries, but the fact she is meeting with the belgian prime minister, maybe to address some of those issues. but france and germany
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a lwa ys those issues. but france and germany always the big, lead nations. some feeling germany has been softening a little bit towards what needs to be done to get a deal over the line. it isa done to get a deal over the line. it is a means softening on the backstop of the irish border issue but looking for ways to help things along. france, much more still taking a harder line behind the scenes. i think it would be particularly the french president, emmanuel macron. we know theresa may is scheduled to have a meeting tomorrow at the end of the summit, as the eu leaders have held their own brexit talks, with donald tusk,. it has been inserted into his schedule at the end of the day, which is an interesting one. it gives mrs may another chance to sit down with one of the key players. donald tusk, who coordinates the eu countries and tries to steer them all in the same direction and ensure that they are talking from one page.
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that will be an important moment as well. thank you very much. we will have the latest on the summit in salzburg. time for a look at the weather, with darren bett. good evening. storm ali has left a trail of damage and travel disruption from here in northern ireland, where we had a record september gusts of wind and into scotland, where we have had some dangerous, crashing waves and some trees brought down as well. but the worst of the winds are now over and the amber wind warning from the met office is set to expire in the next minute or two because storm ali, the centre of the low pressure is sweeping away. so the winds are dropping steadily. along the weather from visiline of rain and gusty winds and it is still pretty gussy up winds and it is still pretty gussy up there this evening but for the
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northern half of the uk, nowhere near as windy as it was early on. things will calm down overnight. looking at a few blustery showers in the north—west. this rain peps up in the north—west. this rain peps up in the south of england and pushes back into wales, the midlands and towards lincolnshire. sapo back, some very warm air. north of it, cooler air. wind is much lighter by the morning and continuing to ease down in northern scotland. sunny spells for a while in northern scotland and northern ireland, showers for the rest but it will cloud over and this rain is becoming more widespread and heavy, particularly in north wales and northern england and east anglia and northern england and east anglia and the south east. most of the day, it will be dry. some sunshine and still quite warm for the time of year. but in the evening and overnight, we will find heavy rain, especially across the high ground of wales and north—west england. it could be four inches, leading to some flooding and 50, 60 miles an
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hour developing more widely across england and wales. the weather front bringing the rain develops low pressure so it turns heavier and lingers for longer. to the south of that area of low pressure, in between the two weather fronts, we are infor between the two weather fronts, we are in for some gusty winds. towards the end of the night in time for friday morning, the wind blows out the last of the warmth and we are in for cooler and gusty conditions. sunshine and showers and quite a few showers coming down across scotland and northern ireland and build in england and north wales. but to the south of that it may be dry with sunshine and temperatures are back to where they should be at this time of year. quick word about the weekend. saturday looks good, for the most part it will be dry with spells of sunshine but another deep area of low pressure could strengthen the winds on sunday.
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it could have been a completely different story, you know, if they'd just took the time and said, "hold on a minute, we know there's problems, we won't take the risk." we'll hear more from some of the families affected. also tonight. the prime ministerjoins eu leaders in austria for a summit as brussels warns her chequers plan needs reworking. a woman has died after her caravan is blown off a cliff by storm ali — which has swept across large parts of the uk taking on aldi and lidl — tesco launches jack's


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