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this is bbc news, i'm carole walker, the headlines at 11. the labour leadership team say they would back members on another brexit vote. iam i am there selected as the leader in order to bring greater democracy to this party. there will be clear votes in conference, i don't know what is going to come out of that. could the brexit talks lead to a snap election this autumn? reports that plans are being drawn up, but the brexit secretary says he won't let the eu dictate these negotiations. this is a bump in the road, we will hold our nerve, we will keep our cool hold our nerve, we will keep our cool, and we will keep negotiating in good faith, we need to keep the negotiations going. us media giant comcast wins a bidding war to take control of tv broadcaster sky. shareholders are urged to accept the offer. falling for scams — reports of fraud almost double in three years. a bbc investigation reveals fraudsters scammed almost 50,000
older people last year, with six people over 60 falling victim every hour. britain's anthonyjoshua successfully defends his three world heavyweight titles, knocking out alexander povetkin at wembley. and could the bbc thriller bodyguard be behind a surge in interest in counterterrorism jobs? the metropolitan police say thousands have visited their recruitment pages in recent weeks. and coming up at 11:30, it's dateline london, where our panel react to the fallout from the eu meeting in salzburg this week and discuss what theresa may does next. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, and his deputy, tom watson,
have both said they would back another referendum on brexit if party members wanted it. dozens of motions supporting the idea have been submitted to the labour conference which started this morning. 0ur assistant political editor, norman smith, is in liverpool for us at the conference. this is quite a big week for the labour leadership, and a week that could determine the course of brexit. yeah, carole, all some of the pressure has been building for the pressure has been building for the labour leadership to shift its position on brexit and back a so—called people's vote, another referendum. we have seen some of the big unions beginning to shift their position, we have seen around 125 motions submitted to this conference, also making the case for
a second referendum. this morning, we heard from the deputy leader, saying very clearly that there should not only be a vote at this conference, but it should be a clear binary vote, in other words not some kind of badge which keeps all options on the table. however, jeremy corbyn, when he was interviewed on the bbc a short time ago, was pretty much sticking to his position, which is his preferences for a general election and, in the aftermath of a general election, he says labour would seek to negotiate a better brexit deal. in other words, labour would still follow through on brexit, have a listen. we are having a debate at our conference, and we will come to a conclusion on that. our preferences that we will demand our six tests against the government, and our preference would be for a general election, and then we can negotiate out election, and then we can negotiate our future relationships with europe, but let's see what comes out that conference. we are a democratic body, this is the biggest conference
we have ever had. do you feel bound by what the conference decides? obviously, i am elected as a leader of this party, in order to bring greater democracy to this party, and thatis greater democracy to this party, and that is what i have been doing for the past three years. and will this party get a chance to vote on the issue of a sector and referendum, clearly? there would be clear votes in conference, i don't know what will come out of all the meetings that are going on. and if as a result the conference says, yes, we wa nt result the conference says, yes, we want a second referendum, will jeremy corbyn deliver that? let's see what comes out, i am bound by the democracy of the party.“ see what comes out, i am bound by the democracy of the party. if there was another referendum, with one option being broadly staying in, or broadly speaking leave, how would you vote? that is conjecture as to what the question would be. you vote? that is conjecture as to what the question would bell you vote? that is conjecture as to what the question would be. i have just given you the question, in or out? in the referendum, i wanted to remain and reform the eu. 40% of labour voters voted to leave, 60%
voted to remain, but do you know what? none of them voted to lose theirjob, to have lower food standards, they all wanted a better economic performance in this country, the drive from many areas that voted leave was that they are fed up with the way they have been treated by government in this country. interesting, i thought, interesting, ithought, thatjeremy corbyn declined to say how he might vote if there was another referendum, but again stressing reference for a general election. is that likely? not according to the brexit secretary, dominic raab. it is for the birds. it is not going to happen. 0k, very good, let me ask you... not going to happen? so how does labour get to a general election. i'm joined by a shadow cabinet member, and tory mps are not going to vote for a general election. we are obviously wanting a general election, we made clear that
when the vote in parliament comes on brexit, if it doesn't meet our requirements of protecting workers' rights, have not reducing environmental protections, reducing consumer rights, not damaging our economy, we will vote against it. if we defeat the government on that vote, there may well be a general election. asjeremy vote, there may well be a general election. as jeremy and john mcdonnell have said, the best time for the people's vote is a general election on the government's record right across the board. but practically, if mrs may is defeated on the brexit deal, do you table a vote of no confidence? that is one of the options. i think this government could collapse at any point. theresa may's attempt to look defiant towards the european union will age badly, the headlines in some of the papers say it was her finest hour, they will age badly, because actually the government are not capable of negotiating a decent brexit steel. that is what is becoming clear. let me put it to you that the wanting tory mps will not
do is vote for a election, appearing that they may well lose their seats. —— the one thing. but were you to press for a second referendum, there may well be tory mps who would be prepared to back that. well, jeremy has made clear that we are not calling for a second referendum, but if theresa may's deal is voted down in parliament, then of course we will be in a new situation and all options on the table. we accept and respect the outcome of the referendum, but what we want except is any scapegoating of migrants as a result of the way that the conservatives negotiating brexit, or any damage to our economy. so to be clear, labour is a pro brexit party? you will negotiate to leave the eu if you win a general election? our last manifesto said, giving us 3 million extra votes, that we respect
the result of the referendum. so you are pro brexit? we are pro—democracy, we accept the result of the referendum. as to the type of brexit, that is a very different matter indeed. what is clear is that theresa may is incapable of negotiating even with their own cabinet, never mind the eu. it is time the government site to let people who can negotiate in the best interests of the majority in this country, and that is what we were doing government. and to be clear, if delegates vote for a motion that says a second referendum should be ina labour says a second referendum should be in a labour manifesto, it would be in the manifesto? let's see what members decide later this week. as jeremy said, we are a democratic party, we know what members say, i will not pre—empt what they decide in discussions and motions later this week. len mccluskey has said in the last hour or so that if there is another vote, staying in the eu should not be on the ballot paper. that is an argument which reflect
the opinions of a lot of people in the opinions of a lot of people in the country who voted in the referendum, and i'm sure he will make that case in any debate in conference this week. it is one of the things that should be part of the things that should be part of the debate. thank you very much for the debate. thank you very much for the time, richard burgon. it will be a fascinating debate and vote when we get that motion on a possible second referendum. the key will be a language that motion, will it actually commits to another referendum, or will it be slightly more loosely worded so as not to tie the hands of the leadership? yes, fascinating manoeuvrings in liverpool, for now, norman, thank you very much indeed. let's talk to the former president of yougov, peter kellner, who joins me in the studio. let's look at that question of the pressure on labour's leadership to have another referendum. your own former organisation has carried out a poll which shows that there is a
huge amount of support amongst labour members for this to take place. remember, yougov was the organisation that correctly predicted thatjeremy corbyn would become leader of the labour party. it does know how to do decent, reliable polls on labour party members, and 90% want britain to stay in the eu, 86% think there should be another referendum, a popular vote, and three quarters of labour members say if there is a general election, i can understand whyjeremy corbyn would prefer to go down that, three quarters of labour party members say that if there is an election, a commitment to a referendum should be in the ma nifesto. referendum should be in the manifesto. in other words, the great majority of grassroots labour party members want a referendum, irrespective of whether there is also a general election. big questions as to whether you could have a general election and a referendum before the date when we are due to leave at the end of march next year. but just
are due to leave at the end of march next year. butjust going back to that question of the labour politics in all of this — clearly, jeremy corbyn would rather have a general election, there is that pressure from members, but labour voters are not necessarily quite so strongly in favour of a second referendum. we know that quite a lot of labour voters voted to leave. well, that is actually not quite true, carole. two things have happened since the referendum two years ago, some of the biggest ships from leave to remain have been amongst labour voters, those in the north and midlands who voted to leave are looking at what the conservative government is doing and saying, actually, i would rather stay in the eu. the latest yougov figures show that by about 3—1 labour voters do wa nt that by about 3—1 labour voters do want a popular vote, a referendum, call it what you will, so whether you look at labour activists or labour voters, if i can make one
further point, yougov recently asked target voters of labour, not currently saying they would vote labour, said they would consider voting labour, and they say, overwhelmingly, yes, we want to stay in the eu, we want a referendum, and that found that very few, i was surprised how few labour supporters would be deterred by a referendum. so the fear of some labour mps that they put off labour voters calling for a referendum, that simply isn't the case. of course, there are lots of different arguments about what the question would be if you had a referendum, would it be on a particular deal, would it be, as justine greening suggested, even a three—way referendum — when you come down to it, we are still a very divided country, opinion has not shifted hugely between the tv news of whether to leave or remain. shifted hugely between the tv news of whether to leave or remainm shifted hugely between the tv news of whether to leave or remain. it is true that the great majority of people hold the same view now as they did in the referendum two years ago, but the people who have
changed, more people are changed from leave to remain than the other way, and one other thing — we know that older people voted 2—1 to leave. we now know from other yougov research that people who've reached voting age since the referendum are 7-1 voting age since the referendum are 7—1 for remain. and you know, come march the 29th, the day we are due to leave the eu, there will be almost two million young people who are old enough to vote who were not old enough to vote two years ago, and they are beginning to say, where is our voice in all of this? we will be the people most affected by britain's long—term decisions, where is our voice? a vice fascinating stuff, just briefly, jeremy corbyn, richard bacon there,, saying they wa nt richard bacon there,, saying they want a general election. —— richard bergen. what would labour's chances of winning be at a general election? talking about a snap election. of winning be at a general election? talking about a snap electionlj talking about a snap election.” have absolutely no idea, because we don't know the precise
circumstances, what the state of the parties would be — will it be theresa may versus jeremy corbyn, and remember how two years ago jeremy corbyn's ratings rose sharply during the election, theresa may's fell sharply. would it be the same this time? would it be different? it would be an absolute lottery, and i say this as somebody who has for more than 50 years been perfectly willing to say what an election result will be two or three months out — result will be two or three months out—i result will be two or three months out — i have sometimes been wrong, but never been so uncertain as to what would happen. we will come back to you when we know what the circumstances are and who is leading which party! peter kellner, and very much indeed forjoining us. directors of the british broadcaster sky have urged shareholders to accept a takeover offer of more than £30 billion from the us media giant comcast. after a long—running battle against rupert murdoch's 21st century fox, comcast won a blind auction for sky. our business editor, simonjack, reports. it's been an epic battle between two heavyweights of the media world.
in the final round, us cable giant and universal studios owner comcast delivered a knockout blow, offering £30 billion, 10% more than the disney—backed 21st century fox was prepared to pay. the prize — sky's 23 million customers across europe, ten million of them in the uk. the final bid has come in at £17.28, which is a 17% increase on the previous offer for sky, so they certainly have. and i think for comcast, sky is a very important strategic asset. it will help them diversify outside of the us, where they're seeing pressure of cord—cutting — that is consumers are less and less paying for big, expensive cable packages. so why are all these megadeals happening now? look no further than the new kids on the block, netflix and amazon. both are winning new subscribers around the world. both are pouring billions into making their own original content. in the short—term, sky customers will notice little difference. both bidders had agreed
to fund loss—making sky news for at least the next ten years. putting up prices will be hard, given the red—hot competition for eye balls. comcast may have won, but they had to pay £30 billion. the real winners this weekend are the sky shareholders, which include the family of one rupert murdoch. he may not have succeeded in buying all of sky as he once wanted, but he will not be going home empty—handed. simon jack, bbc news. the headlines on bbc news. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, and his deputy, tom watson, say they would back another brexit referendum, if that's what party members want. us media giant comcast outbids rupert murdoch's 21st century fox to buy tv broadcaster sky for more than £30 billion. and fraud is on the rise. a bbc investigation finds six people over the age of 60 fall victim to a scam every hour. sport, and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre.
good morning. anthonyjoshua retained his three world titles last night, with a seventh—round stoppage of russia's alexander povetkin. it meansjoshua is now undefeated in 22 fights, and speculation abounds over who he'll fight next. with tyson fury and deontay wilder facing off in december, a rematch with dillian white looks most likely. david 0rnstein was watching at wembley for us. it has barely stopped raining over the weekend, although it did when anthonyjoshua was the weekend, although it did when anthony joshua was in the weekend, although it did when anthonyjoshua was in the ring, perhaps as power even greater than we knew. plenty of that power was on display last night as he came back from adversity and an early scare to record an emphatic victory, a spectacular knockout, and the attention now turns to his next fight. could it be deontay wilder, could it be tyson fury? the message from anthonyjoshua
could it be tyson fury? the message from anthony joshua is could it be tyson fury? the message from anthonyjoshua is bring it on. there is a lot of room for these heavyweights, they are all talented, they can all fight, povetkin was not a champion, he came game, and people we re a champion, he came game, and people were entertained. if wilder is not serious, there are other people out there. when he is ready, we are ready. josh ruffels macro record is 22 victories and no defeats, 21 by way of knockout. —— joshua's record. he has backed that a major stadium for the fourth time in just 17 months, his appeal is like few others in the history of boxing, and according to a former champion who was sat ringside last night he should be a nobody. he is showing a patience and brutal side when it is needed, and he is showing great finishing, that was a fantastic finish. he gets rid of that guy, remember, wladimir klitschko dropped in fourtimes remember, wladimir klitschko dropped in four times but couldn't get rid of him. anthony dropped him once and closed the show. the boy is the knockout king. that next fight will
be back here on april the 13th, wembley stadium has already been booked, the only question is who it will be against, as anthonyjoshua's appeal continues to grow and he seeks to cement his domination of the heavyweight division. there was a warm welcome back to old trafford for sir alex ferguson yesterday afternoon. his first apperance after he had emergency surgery for a brain haemorrage in may. as he took his seat, united started well, summer signing fred scoring his first goal for the club in the first half. but wolves, who have started strongly in their return to the premier league, decided to spoil sir alex's homecoming, joao moutinho equalising midway through the second half. liverpool's best start to a premier league season has taken them to the top of the table — they've won all six games so far. they beat southampton 3—0, mo salah scoring their third. salad has this morning been named on a shortlist of three for fifa men's player of 2018. the winner will be announced on monday. he'll have to beat two players from real madrid's champions league winning side, luka modric and cristiano ronaldo, to win it.
elsewhere, there were wins for tottenham, burnley and leicester. crystal palace and newcastle played out a 0—0 draw, fulham and watford finished 1—1 in the early kick—off. two fixtures today — chelsea travel to the london stadium to face struggling west ham, and later arsenal host everton. celtic and rangers both play today in the scottish premiership. hearts dropped points for the first time, they were held to a goalless draw at home to livingstone. and kick—off was held up for ten minutes by a false fire alarm in the match between hamilton and st mirren, but that was as exciting as it got for the visitors, who were beaten 3—0. tiger woods has given himself every chance of winning his first tournament for five years. he had an outstanding start to the third round at the tour championship in atlanta, with birdies at six of his first seven holes. he shot a 65 and goes into the final day on 12—under par, three shots clear of rory mcilroy and justin rose.
well, i would love to be able to win this event, i've got a three—shot lead, i've got a bunch of guys behind me that have been playing well and are playing well. and, you know, will see what happens tomorrow. that's all the sport for now, i'll have more in the next hour. a woman accusing president trump's supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh of sexual assault has agreed to testify against him next week. lawyers for christine blasey ford say she has accepted a request to appear before the senatejudiciary committee to be questioned about the alleged attack at a party in 1982. judge kavanaugh has repeatedly denied the allegations. lay—bo diseko reports. arriving home accompanied by security, brett kavanaugh, seen here in the red cap, still at the centre of a storm. the conservative judge
is donald trump's choice to fill the vacant seat on the supreme court. last week, that seemed almost a certainty, until allegations of sexual assault emerged in the media. christine blasey ford says he tried to rape her when they were teenagers in the 19805 — an allegation judge kavanaugh strenuously denies. but it has delayed a vote on his nomination to america's highest court. there have been days of negotiations over whether dr ford would give evidence before the senatejudiciary committee. now, it seems there may just be a breakthrough. in a statement, her lawyers said... some republicans, including donald trump, say this is a deliberate attempt to delay and ultimately obstruct
judge kavanaugh's confirmation. but in a time of increased scrutiny of how sexual assault allegations are dealt with, many are also trying to tread carefully. the president and i are confident that senate republicans will manage this confirmation properly, with the utmost respect for all concerned, and i believe thatjudge brett kavanaugh will soon be justice brett kavanaugh. and take his seat on the supreme court of the united states of america. dr ford may have accepted the request to appear before the senate committee, but her lawyers are still negotiating the terms. when she gives evidence, who is in the room, and who she is questioned by, are all still issues to be agreed. lebo diseko, bbc news. an investigation by bbc radio 5 live has found that the number of elderly
people reporting that they've been the victim of scamming has nearly doubled in the last three years. ?in some cases, people had lost hundreds of thousands of pounds. ? fraudsters scammed almost 119,000 older people across the uk in the past year, equivalent to nearly six every hour. caroline davies reports. it's a crime that can happen in your own home, as simple as a convincing phone call or a few clicks on a computer. and for one group in particular, reported cases of fraud are becoming more common. the cost of personal fraud across all ages is estimated to be around £10 billion a year. figures requested in an investigation by 5 live show that nearly 119,000 people aged over 60 reported that they had been scammed and more than 1,000 of those victims were over 90. some experts worry the real number of over—60s affected is far higher and that older people are particularly at risk
as they are more likely to live alone and be drawn into conversation with a fraudster. the impact can be devastating, leaving victims without savings, potentially reliant on the state to pay for their care. those who do fall victim to fraud once are often targeted again, sometimes being placed on a scammers' list of people likely to be sucked in. the financial ombudsman service has said that scams are becoming increasingly sophisticated and told banks that they should take the evolution of fraud into account, rather than assume it is their customers who have been grossly negligent. caroline davies, bbc news. eight million people are expected to tune in for the finale of the bodyguard tonight. as well as causing a twitter frenzy each week, the series has prompted lots of interest in counterterrorism policing. thousands of people have accessed the metropolitan police's recruitment site since the show started. but how realistic is richard madden's character david budd? our home affairs correspondent danny shaw reports. he's talked down a suicide bomber,
been shot at in a car, and duffed up a government advisor. agh! all in day's work for a close protection officer? here's one man who should know. i have protected theresa may when she was home secretary, you're right, and it is nothing and was nothing like what david budd did. agh! the way we operate is not quite like david budd, who seems to be operating independently! so independently, he even has an affair with the home secretary. that's not realistic at all! anybody who crosses that line would not last very long within the department and might not last very long within the police service. but the met police wants to capitalise on the popularity of bodyguard. there's been a surge of interest injoining the force. it needs to recruit detectives and technology experts. it's about encouraging people
to have an ambition, dream big, and, actually, some day you could be protecting her majesty the queen, or protecting the home secretary. but you're not going to get that instantaneously. one feature of the programme is the large number of senior female officers and detectives from black and minority ethnic groups. it takes some doing... the reality is rather different. they're in a minority, as this asian counterterrorism detective told me. she doesn't want to be identified because of the sensitive nature of her role. women and bme officers are in every rank and every specialism in the police services. so it's not a rare thing. we do have senior female officers, we also have senior bme officers. but we still do need more diversity, without a shadow of a doubt. the character of david budd makes great telly and may inspire some potential recruits, but he's no substitute for a real close protection officer. it's not about making waves — they have to stay in the shadows.
danny shaw, bbc news. the series finale of bodyguard is on bbc one at nine o'clock tonight. now it's time for a look at the weather with louise lear it isa it is a great sunday. again, reading the papers and drinking coffee! it is improving, if you want to get out, the question ofjudging the showers, but you can see where the heaviest rain has been so far, central and southern areas, but already quite a clearance, in the south—west and improvement. sunny spells and scattered showers for the rest of the afternoon, maybe into east anglia and the extreme south—east corner, it may well stay pretty wet for much of the afternoon. but with lighter winds, is catching up showers, still not
particularly warm out there, 11—14d, mightjust squeeze 15 particularly warm out there, 11—14d, might just squeeze 15 if we particularly warm out there, 11—14d, mightjust squeeze 15 if we are lucky. no single figures to greet us first thing tomorrow morning, and thatis first thing tomorrow morning, and that is with a north—westerly wind as well, dragging in this cooler stuff. a dry and settle start on monday morning, more of a breeze in the far north and west, generally speaking looking pretty good for the start of the week. hello this is bbc news with carole walker. the headlines: labour leadership say they would be ready to back another eu referendum — if party members want one. sky shareholders are urged to accept us media giant comcast‘s takeover offer of more than £30 billion for the tv broadcaster. and an increase in fraud.
a bbc investigation reveals almost 50, 000 older people were victims of scams in the last year. now on bbc news, it's time for dateline london. hello and welcome to dateline, the programme that pitches some of the uk's most prominent journalists against international writers who file their stories with the dateline london. this week, how domestic politics is dictating foreign policy for both the united kindom and the united states. theresa may's fellow eu leaders rebuff the brexit compromise she hoped would hold together her party.
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