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today at five. the parents of a teenage muslim convert who went to fight for islamic state are convicted of sending him money. jack letts, went to fight in syria, his parents were found guilty of sending him cash knowing it might be used to fund terrorism. their solicitor spoke outside court. the heavy price we pay today as an indicator of the love we have had our children. we are committed to helping him return home and will continue our campaign to help those the government has turned its back on. while the couple have been spared jail they were given suspended sentences. the other main stories, the us iran stand—off,
president trump said he changed his mind just ten minutes after ordering military strikes to punish iran for striking down a us drone. foreign office minister mark field is suspended after being filmed manhandling a climate change protester. she gives herfirst reaction to the bbc. i expected to maybe engage in a conversation or two with people, perhaps people looking my way, but certainly not to be grappled out of the room. five yea rs be grappled out of the room. five years after george osborne created the concept of the northern powerhouse, we ask how well it is working. and i want you to meet forky! and mark kermode tells us what he thinks of disney's latest film, toy story four.
good afternoon. the parents of a teenage muslim convert who went to syria to fight for the islamic state group have been convicted of sending him £223, knowing that it might be used to fund terrorism. john letts and saleh lane were cleared of a second similar charge and the jury we re second similar charge and the jury were unable to reach a verdict on the third charge. the couple have been spared jail and were given suspended sentences of 15 months. jack letts, with his parents sally and john, jack letts, with his parents sally andjohn, a jack letts, with his parents sally and john, a picture perfect childhood. he converted to islam at the age of 16 and two years later he travelled to jordan the age of 16 and two years later he travelled tojordan and kuwait telling his parents he had gone to study arabic. months later he was in
syria. sally lane told the court she was horrified when he phoned to say where he was. she said he had screamed at him, how could he be so stupid? the jury had screamed at him, how could he be so stupid? thejury had been told screamed at him, how could he be so stupid? the jury had been told jack letts's friends from his mosque in oxford had warned them of their concerns about extremist views he had been watching online and people he had been associating with in the uk. the court was shown this picture of jack letts. the uk. the court was shown this picture ofjack letts. the prosecution uk. the court was shown this picture of jack letts. the prosecution said the one fingered salute was associated with islamic state. the player had argued in court they didn't believe their son was actively fighting in syria and on that police interviewed john letts tried to explain. i've got to get him out somehow and how am i going to do that? he is in danger and i have to do something but on the other hand we don't want to get put away. i have another son to worry about. what am i supposed to do? the family have kept in touch by
m essa 9 es family have kept in touch by messages on facebook and the m essa 9 es messages on facebook and the messages which could be retrieved we re messages which could be retrieved were read out in court. his mum told thejury were read out in court. his mum told the jury about her disgust at some of his comments like this one posted on the facebook page of an ex—girlfriend celebrating the completion of a course with the british army. jack had written, i would love to perform a martyrdom operation in this scene. nearly a year after being in syria he had begun to ask for money, first to help out a friend, then he said to get out of syria. they are going to i’ui'i get out of syria. they are going to run out of money completely. didn't you say if it was to get out you would send? you say if it was to get out you would send ? despite you say if it was to get out you would send? despite warnings, she was captured at her local western union sending £230. it is not for individuals to decide when it applies to them when it doesn't. the really strong messages despite whatever you may think you are doing, ultimately you are breaking the law and that is not ok. and the
jury the law and that is not ok. and the jury at the old bailey agreed. they found them both guilty of sending money to their son jack letts knowing or having reasonable grounds to suspect the funds would be used for terrorism. a statement read out on behalf ofjohn letts and sally lane said they had only done what any lane said they had only done what a ny pa re nts lane said they had only done what any parents would. we have been convicted for doing what any parent would do if they thought their child's life was in danger. we want to make it clear that we have not been convicted of funding terrorism. we have been convicted of sending money to our son where there were reasonable grounds to suspect the money could have been used for terrorist purposes. nobody during the trial even suggested that the £223 we managed to send was in fact used for terrorism. the fact the jury used for terrorism. the fact the jury acquitted us of some of the allegations makes it clear that the jury allegations makes it clear that the jury accepted that we believed her son's life was in imminent danger. we believe that we have been let down badly by the police and the
government. we tried to do the right thing. we fully cooperated with the police and asked repeatedly for help. they promised they would help us help. they promised they would help us but instead of helping they use the information we provided to prosecute us. a statement read out on the half of the couple. president trump has said that in his words the us military was cocked and loaded and ready to retaliate for the shooting of a us drone but he called off the actionjust shooting of a us drone but he called off the action just ten minutes before lunch. in a tweet he said he had made the decision when he was told 150 people would die what she had concluded would not be proportionate as a response. iran has warned that the us would respond to any action. there has been growing tension with washington blaming tehran for attacks in the
region. our diplomatic correspondent paul adams reports. are the united states and iran edging closer to war or stepping back from the brink? the new york times says donald trump ordered strikes against iranian targets last night, but changed his mind at the last minute. the us was poised to retaliate for this, iran's shooting down of an unmanned american surveillance drone somewhere over the gulf, celebrated on iranian tv. iran also says it has retrieved pieces of the drone allegedly shot down over its territorial waters. the foreign minister, javad zarif, tweeted this sketch last night, showing the track of the drone and the crash site just off the iranian coast. but america insists the aircraft was flying over international waters. it's released its own competing map. i have a feeling that it was a mistake made by somebody that shouldn't have been doing what they did.
i think they made a mistake. i'm notjust talking the country made a mistake, i'm talking somebody under the command of that country made a mistake. but in washington, mr trump's opponents are also worried about mistakes. the president may not intend to go to war here, but we're worried that he and the administration may bumble into a war. at the united nations, the iran ambassador condemned the president says he is in no hurry. he said he was willing to retaliate but cancelled when he found the hundred and 50 people might die. this, he said, was not proportionate. at the united nations, the iran ambassador condemned what he called america's unlawful and destabilising measures. in a letter to the secretary—general, he said the drone had been targeted after ignoring repeated iranian warnings. each side accuses the other of aggression. washington says iran was behind last week's attacks on tankers and four others in may. this crisis remains delicately and dangerously poised. with the sense of danger arising, america's federal aviation authority has warned airlines to avoid
iranian airspace. british airways and others say they will comply. this morning's chart shows dozens of aircraft keeping out of harm's way. paul adams, bbc news. downing street has suspended the foreign office minister mark field after he forcibly removed a climate change protestor from a dinner in the city of london. mr field said he acted instinctively when the woman approached the stage during a speech by the chancellor philip hammond. the minister has apologised but labour says what he did was ‘horrific‘ while the prime minister has described it as ‘very concerning'. the woman involved has told the bbc mr field needs to go on an anger management course. richard galpin reports. the chancellor of the exchequer was on his feet giving his annual speech about the state of the economy when greenpeace activists in red dresses made their way inside and started
to read out an alternative speech, calling for radical action to tackle a global climate emergency. as one of the activist, janet barker, moved further into the hall, conservative mp and minister leapt up to intervene. after pushing her against a pillar, he grabbed her around the back of her neck to force her out. i was simply walking past his chair, or trying to walk past his chair. yeah, so they were really over the top. i would quite like him to go on anger management, perhaps. and i hope he doesn't do it again. a0 greenpeace volunteers, almost all of them women, had managed to get inside the mansion house, apparently without being asked to provide any identification. they assumed their action would event should be dealt with but not with the force demonstrated by mark field. it was clearly an assault.
it remains to be seen whether he will be under police investigation and if he is then he should resign. in a statement, mark field said that in the confusion many guests understandably felt threatened and when one protester rushed past me towards the top table, i instinctively reacted. there was no security present and i was for a split second genuinely worried she might be armed. mark field has since been suspended as foreign office minister. mark has issued a full and unreserved apology. he recognises that what happened was an overreaction. but what we need now, in his interest but also in the interests of the lady involved, is a proper independent enquiry by the cabinet office and that's what's going to happen. at the mansion house, all the protesters were eventually bundled out of the hall. mr hammond, back on his feet, had this response. the irony, of course, is that this is the government that
has just led the world by committing to a zero carbon economy by 2050. despite what happened to janet barker, she has now said she will not press charges against mr field. and while there will be an investigation into the minister, security at the mansion house will also be under scrutiny. richard galpin, bbc news. we are going to discuss what happened at mansion house with jackie davis, a security consultant who has been working on the security industry for more than a0 years as a security consultant and bodyguards to high profile clients. two issues, how mark field dealt with this incident but also initially how the protesters managed to get into a very high—profile speech by the chancellor of the exchequer in the city of london. the city of london corporation has a lot to answer to
as far as the security failure and that's what it was. if they came in through the fire door why wasn't it manned? through the fire door why wasn't it manned ? who through the fire door why wasn't it manned? who opened the fire door for them to come in? that is what they are seeing today. the alarm should have gone off on that. how on earth they got into that room, where is they got into that room, where is the security? theyjust seem to have rushed through the door? there is usually security inside the doors and inside the venue, where was it? once they are in, with everything that has happened recently with the milkshake incident and women mps asking for higher security, what mark field did grabbing her by the neck was completely wrong, but he is not trained in restraint techniques, so he acted on a split—second instinct of that is something not right and he grabbed her, the way he grabbed her was totally wrong but at least he did something, somebody did something rather than let the
protest get up to the top table.|j can see both sides of it. we are seeing other pictures of other protesters being calmly escorted away, led away rather than manhandled. rather than grapple does the minister did with that particular protest. but she was making her way to the top table where you had the chancellor of the exchequer. nobody knew what she had on her. he said today he thought she might be armed. if he thought that, two people should have grabbed an arm each so she couldn't move her hands. that way, that sort of disarms her, if you like. that is you as a professional bodyguard? absolutely, we would have taken an arm each you. she is held and can't ta ke arm each you. she is held and can't take anything out of her bag for use an arm to grab a weapon. but a lot of people watching those pictures would have said that was a massive
overreaction. the labour party called it horrific. the prime minister said it was a very concerning, so a lot of people see it as concerning, so a lot of people see itasa concerning, so a lot of people see it as a huge overreaction although he has said, first, that he is sorry and apologised unreservedly but also that he thought she could have a weapon? there you go, he thought she could have a weapon. he is not trained and acted on a gut instinct that this woman shouldn't be in this place and she is heading for the top table. if he thought she had a weapon, he jumped table. if he thought she had a weapon, hejumped up to table. if he thought she had a weapon, he jumped up to stop table. if he thought she had a weapon, hejumped up to stop her using what he perceived as a weapon, so he should never have grabbed her around the neck, and i understand that but you cannot have mps calling for more security and then when somebody, an untrained person call centre help, at least somebody did something. jackie davies, security expert and bodyguard, thank you for joining us. the headlines on bbc news.
the parents of a teenage muslim convert who want to fight for islamic state have been found guilty of funding terrorism. president trump said the us military was cocked and loaded to retaliate against tehran last night but he then changed his mind ten minutes before the planned missile strikes. foreign office minister mark field has been suspended after he was filmed pushing a climate change protest at a dinner last night in the city of london. and in sport at the city of london. and in sport at the cricket world cup, sri lanka threatening to upset tournament favourites england. jos buttler the latest to fall cheaply. the hosts currently 161—5. an upset at queens where the top seed was beaten by the 18—year—old canadian felix, the youngest semifinalist in 12 years.
and hayley turner has become the first female jockey winner at royal ascot in 32 years and just the second ever, riding 33—1 shot. and more on those stories just after half past. let's ta ke let's take you back to stop story this evening, the conviction of the pa rents of this evening, the conviction of the parents of a muslim convert to travel to syria to fight for islamic state. he first travelled to syria in 201a and he married and had a child with an iraqi woman before being captured by kurdish forces fighting islamic state in 2017. he agreed to speak to the bbc in october last year and only now that his parents trial was complete can we broadcast that interview. he spoke to our middle east correspondent quentin somerville.
one of the islamic state groups most notorious recruits was former oxford schoolboy jack letts. he agreed to speak to us in october last year. only now that his parents trial is over can the interview he only now that his parents trial is over can the interview be broadcast. he said he wasn't speaking under duress and that he wanted to come clea n duress and that he wanted to come clean about his membership. i asked him if he betrayed his country. where you a traitor or a collaborator, that is the question i am asking. do you mean a traitor to britain? it is the first time i heard that term in a long time. i was definitely angry at britain. i haven't tried to make myself innocent and i did what i did and made a big mistake. that is what happened. i regretted what i did and thought supposedly the british idea is that even if you do make big m ista kes is that even if you do make big mistakes you can sort of go back. go back to britain, you can go back from your mistakes and set things right. did they ever ask you to put
ona right. did they ever ask you to put on a suicide vest? they didn't ask you but they encourage you in a sort of indirect way. i used to want to at one point, believe it or not. i now think it is actually haram. i wa nted now think it is actually haram. i wanted to at one point, not a vest, i wanted to do it in a car. i didn't request to do it but at the same timei request to do it but at the same time i made it obvious that if there was a battle i am ready. this is one of the places where jack letts lived in syria. he loved raqqa to begin with and said he fought on the front lines. in iraq he was badly injured and got married and had a child. he said he grew disillusioned and attempted to leave ias but why did he abandon britain in the first place? i had a very good
relationship with my mum especially. i thought i was leaving something behind and going to something better. i thought i was never going to see them again. in britain they call youjihadijack. while to see them again. in britain they call you jihadi jack. while you have been away there have been the attacks in manchester, the london bridge attacks, attacks in paris. there is very little appetite to give you a second chance because of what you have done? to be honest, it is not as if i am appealing to the british public to give me a second chance. if i was a member of the british public i wouldn't give me a second chance. i don't expect that from anyone. so what do you expect? that is the problem, i don't know. every few days i hear a new promise. it is probably not that important but manchester, what happened in london, i was in prison at the time. this is a long time after i left
isis. but that is the point. your recruitment as a westerner, a white middle class boy from oxford, signed up middle class boy from oxford, signed up andjoined middle class boy from oxford, signed up and joined islamic state, you we re up and joined islamic state, you were a rallying cry. you gave their insanity more credence, for other people to go and join them. that is one of the things i realised. the fa ct one of the things i realised. the fact that i came from england made a big difference, that is one of the things that i regret as well. the use does. the use does is like a poster boy. his kurdish jailers say he can't stay in syria. jack letts also has canadian citizenship though he has never lived there. the british government says it washed its hands of him the day he joined the islamic state group.
the mayor of greater manchester andy burnham has said the government has failed the north of england was a lack of investment and the so—called northern powerhouse is in danger of fizzling out. five years ago the former chancellor of the exchequer norman osborn promised to rejuvenate but analysis said many areas have not benefited from investment. danny savagejoins us from not benefited from investment. danny savage joins us from leeds. not benefited from investment. danny savagejoins us from leeds. this behind me is the leeds— liverpool canal, built about 150 years ago and took about half a century to dig. what is going to be the next big transport investment in northern england? by transport investment in northern england ? by 2030 transport investment in northern england? by 2030 to this area may be an hs2 terminal but between now and then the hopers that the idea of the northern powerhouse will have boosted the economy of northern england. it was announced five years ago but perception among ordinary people is that they don't think anything has happened. we travelled
about talking to people to see what they made of the northern powerhouse initiative. we need the northern powerhouse. not one city but a collection of northern cities. remember this? the chancellor setting a division of northern england. how do we build the northern powerhouse ? northern england. how do we build the northern powerhouse? byjoining the northern powerhouse? byjoining the city together. he called it the northern powerhouse but what has happened since? modern transport links were suggested to cut down on travel times between northern cities. but in 2019 there are still pacer trains and journey times are about the same. the commitment hasn't been there. mines have been preoccupied and brexit has taken over. those pushing to improve transport are frustrated. we need a spending review to commit the hs2 and the northern powerhouse and allow us to see local authorities
and transport authorities to do the rest of the world, to connect all the communities and the smaller towns to the cities. but what do people live in the north think? at the coincidentally named northern powerhouse jim, they are the coincidentally named northern powerhousejim, they are not the coincidentally named northern powerhouse jim, they are not short of opinions. in places like halifax and towns outside of leeds and manchester and liverpool, you would be pushed for people to even though anything had happened. be pushed for people to even though anything had happenedlj be pushed for people to even though anything had happened. i went to london quite a few times on business. there is no comparison in services at all. so much opportunity and investment that has been lacking for generations in the north. george osborne lost interest, he left politics and with the evening standard than his mates are no longer in power. his priorities have shifted. i caught up with the business editor of the yorkshire post which has campaigned for
investment. this isn'tjust a load of whinging northerners wanting to ta ke of whinging northerners wanting to take stuff away from london. he put the north—south argument into context. london is a great capital city but we are saying that investing into the north of england at this stage is an absolute winner for the entire country. there has been a big change in governance. there are now directly elected mayors with power over some spending decisions and their patch. on teesside they have bought an airport. this airport was at risk of closing on my pledge was to buy this airport. we have secured something that will be a real boost. the government says the northern powerhouse initiative is working. there has been change and more is to come. we are moving now into the second phase of the northern powerhouse and i want to see whoever the next prime minister is embrace this and really invest much more and make it a much higher priority for
the government. it will need a massive boost if the power of the north, set out five years ago, is to be realised. jeremy hunt has promised to give borisjohnson the fight of his life jeremy hunt has promised to give boris johnson the ‘fight of his life' in the race to become the next conservative leader, and britain's next prime minister. earlier the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, rejected mrjohnson's argument that new trade tariffs can be avoided if there's a no—deal brexit. ben wright reports. the final two in the race to be our next prime minister. for boris johnson and jeremy hunt the scrutiny now picks up particularly for their plans for brexit. enter the governor of the bank of england, regularly outspoken about the potential risks associated with leaving the eu and today he told the bbc there would be taxes on imports and tariffs if there is no deal departure.“
taxes on imports and tariffs if there is no deal departure. if we don't have an agreement, we should be clear that not having an agreement means there are tariffs. automatically, because the europeans have to apply the same rules to us as everyone else. and yet boris johnson has suggested it could be possible to avoid these new taxes even without an overarching withdrawal agreement. there will be no tariffs and quotas because what we want to do is to get a standstill in ourcurrent we want to do is to get a standstill in our current arrangements. mr johnson's team don't dispute the rules but point to provisions within them to account for stopgap measures to avoid tariffs. that assumes there is no agreement but we are a net importer and it would be in the interests of the european union to look at an agreement. a no-deal
brexit would be an unprecedented situation politically and economically and could prompt rapid action to minimise disruption but right now many trade experts believe boris johnson's plan right now many trade experts believe borisjohnson's plan wouldn't right now many trade experts believe boris johnson's plan wouldn't avoid new tariffs. his rivaljeremy hunt, visiting a factory in worcester today, has said he would delay brexit again if necessary to get a better deal. thousands of jobs in the west midlands depend on having a wise prime minister who makes sensible calls as to how we leave the european union promptly but also ina way the european union promptly but also in a way that doesn't harm business. but in brussels european leaders say they will not renegotiate the withdrawal agreement and the uk has been wasting time since brexit was delayed. maybe the process of brexit will be even more exciting than before because of some personal
decisions in london, but nothing has changed when it comes to our position. this afternoon another hustings event forjeremy hunt and borisjohnson. what hustings event forjeremy hunt and boris johnson. what is hustings event forjeremy hunt and borisjohnson. what is clear is that whoever becomes prime minister next month will face many of the same challenges that defeated theresa may. time to catch up to look at the latest weather forecast for the weekend. how is it looking? not bad, today has been a decent day for most of us. over the last few hours some fair weather cloud but that has melted away and should be a fine evening with plenty of sunshine around for many of us. the exception, though there will be some sunshine across the north, showers working into shetland, and that continues on and off overnight but otherwise largely dry with the
temperature getting down to between six and 12 celsius. for saturday, i decent day of weather coming up. high pressure for the first time this month moving across the country so for england and wales, plenty of sunshine and largely bright for northern ireland and scotland with some sunny spells but a little bit of cloud across north—western areas threatening showers and again into shetland, patchy cloud. quite breezy as well. away from the north, with the sunshiny temperature is on the rise, highs of 19 in edinburgh, into the low 20s across england and wales, so a fine day for the forecast on saturday but sunday we are watching carefully for an area of thundery rain that could cause localised flooding issues, that is the weather.
this is bbc news. the headlines: the parents of a teenage muslim convert who went to syria to fight for the islamic state group, have been found guilty of funding terrorism. president trump says the us military was "cocked and loaded to retaliate" against iran last night, but he changed his mind ten minutes before planned strikes. foreign office minister mark field has been suspended after he was filmed pushing a climate change demonstrator at a dinner in the city of london. jeremy hunt has promised he'll give borisjohnson the "fight of his life" in the conservative leadership contest. time for a look at the day's sport hugh woozencroft is at the bbc sports centre.
the cricket, england and sri lanka, how is it going? you might very tense indeed. england making tough work of relatively low sri lankan total at the world cup. three wickets and moved he to a total of 15 for the competition, making him the joint leading wicket taker. sri la nka the joint leading wicket taker. sri lanka finishing on 230 2a9. england's reply didn't start well, ba i rstow england's reply didn't start well, bairstow going for a golden duck. joe root steadied the ship reaching 50, adding to his impressive world cup before he went outjosh butler was next to go and he madejust cup before he went outjosh butler was next to go and he made just ten and he took the fourth of the innings. still lots to do for england, currently sri lanka are ——
england, currently sri lanka are —— england are 170 7a7. they need 56 from 57 balls hayley turner has become the first female jockey to ride a winner at royal scot for 32 yea rs ride a winner at royal scot for 32 years —— royal ascot. the queen's course was in second. kate galloway was the first woman to win it ascot in 1987. frankie dettori has won his seventh race of the meeting in the commonwealth cup. he was advertised at eight to one. he took four winners in a row yesterday before he lost his final two races of the day. he once rode seven winners famously ina day he once rode seven winners famously in a day at ascot back in 1996. andy murray will be back in action at queens after his successful return to the court yesterday. they beat
the top seeds and will face the winner in the british partner after his match in the semifinals later on. it could be a busy day for the 18—year—old canadian felix. he beat nick and gregor in the singles yesterday and cause another upset, knocking out the top seed and he will play in the doubles later before potentially taking on andy murray and lopez if he can win alongside his partner. currently on court is lopez, he is playing in the main's singles against raunich. bad weather has destructed the schedule, forcing some players to play two matches back to back at times. you can matches back to back at times. you ca n follow matches back to back at times. you can follow the action on bbc two or
on the bbc sport website and app. it's been another day of mercedes dominance in formula 1 with lewis hamilton going quickest in first practice ahead of sunday's french grand prix. his team—mate was fastest in second practice, hamilton just behind him with the second quickest time. that gave them a one, two in both sessions so far. goalkeepers will no longer be cautioned for encroaching on penalty takers. scotland fell foul of that role when lee alexander saved a penalty only for the video assistant referee to show she had come off her line before the ball was struck. fifa said the technology is enough ofa fifa said the technology is enough of a deterrent without giving out yellow cards. england's mail reader is playing her second round at the women's pga championship, the third major of the season. she is four shots off the lead having hit a three under par 69 on what was a wet
opening—day in minnesota. she was one shot behind australia's hannah green but she has bogeyed the fourth to slip back to two under. that's all the sport. we'll have more at 6:30pm. the edinburgh international film festival gets under way today and it"s hosting the world premiere of astronaut, a movie in which richard dreyfuss plays a pensioner who lies about his age to enter a lottery for a once in a lifetime chance to travel on the first commercial flight to outer space. richard dreyfuss is the star of many a hollywood blockbuster — american graffiti, jaws, and close encounters of the third kind. i'm delighted to say we have richard dreyfuss in the studio with us now but first let's take a look at astronaut.
11 letters. i want to watch the news! it's not the news, it's the same old rubbish. a round and round it goes. is the final three lottery winner names for the spaceship competition are... give it back! connor cranston, adrian charles, angus stewart. those are our lucky short listers. which one will you be voting for? the winner willjoin six other passengers. serendipity. that's the answer. there we are,
just an excerpt from the film. richard, the slogan is, you're never too old. it's a fairy tale in a way, isn't it? the pensioner who gets to win this lottery. it's a definite fairy tale, it's about a man who has his innermost secret desire fulfilled. is it also about space? is it about old age and how you can still fulfil your dreams however old you are? i've had a theory four yea rs you are? i've had a theory four years —— for years when your mother says to you, what do you want to be when you grow up? don't say old because old sucks. so this is the story of a guy who is unwilling but has to move into a home and hates
every second of his life. and then realises that he happens to know because it was in the course of his work that he knows why that vehicle that will move the spaceship from here to there will crumble and eve ryo ne here to there will crumble and everyone will die and he can't get anyone to listen. that's what it's about. it's fascinating because in this modern era, space travel is beginning to become accessible to so—called space tourists. if you are rich enough, you can pay. we've got billionaires who are fascinated with space so it's something that fascinates everybody. absolutely and it isa fascinates everybody. absolutely and it is a replay of the original generation of science fiction writers who all said, one way or another, that private entrepreneurs
will muscle the first generation of exploration and i don't think there's too much difference between that and what the explorers did, the portuguese, the british. we all did it, it was just that they didn't go on the first trip. they paid for it, they accrued lots of money because of it and then they started to monetise and they made a fortune. speaking of monetising, let's look back at your career and some of the massive blockbuster should been associated with. jaws is actually being re—shown in cinemas around the united kingdom injuly to bring in an entirely new audience, i guess, a generation who might not have seen it, but it's a film that almost half a century old. it was one of the
original summer blockbusters. a century old. it was one of the original summer blockbustersm a century old. it was one of the original summer blockbusters. it was the original. it was considered the first one where they found a plot that equally terrified every culture in the world. when you think about that, it really worked and peter benchley died of a broken heart because he had never meant to ignite an anti—shark phobia and he did and people now kill sharks and count them in the millions. it was a film with an original budget which seems incredible now of sa million and blew the budget and spent 9 million on it! what was the secret of its success and was it fun making it or was it just
success and was it fun making it or was itjust extraordinarily hard? success and was it fun making it or was it just extraordinarily hard7m was it just extraordinarily hard7m was more fun than i can possibly tell you but it was four to 1a and that means however you deal with the world inflation, it was a massive over one and they will be paying for this in purgatory forever. but someone said to stephen, how do you start a film of the sa million budget? he said, easy, youjust start a film of the sa million budget? he said, easy, you just keep shooting until it's1a! budget? he said, easy, you just keep shooting until it's 14! you have made so many films in your long and illustrious career. is there one film that you are most proud of, most keen on, order the all your babies? they are all my babies and i wouldn't tell you the ones i didn't
like and there are only a couple because i was very much aware as i was putting it all together that i was putting it all together that i was proud of my work, proud of my choices, proud of what the films we re choices, proud of what the films were about and i had absolutely no desire to do anyone else's ideas.“ it true that you actually initially turned down jaws? i did. i turned it down because stephen described what it would entail. steven spielberg? yes, is there another stephen? and he said, do you want to do it? i said no. because it's going to be a problem to shoot and i'm very lazy andi problem to shoot and i'm very lazy and ijust like to sit around and
that's it. he said he didn't believe me. i turned that's it. he said he didn't believe me. iturned it that's it. he said he didn't believe me. i turned it down twice and then by accident, i saw the first film that i had done, a film revered by the canadians, and when i saw that, isaid to the canadians, and when i saw that, i said to myself quite sanely, if this film is sold in the united states, i will never work again! and here we are quite a few years later, but you're still making great movies, the latest is astra not, so very good luck with that. do you realise that i can actually say i've done this careerfor 60 realise that i can actually say i've
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