tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News September 20, 2019 10:00am-11:01am BST
hello. it's friday, it's ten o'clock — i'm joanna gosling... millions of children are expected to join a global protest today — calling for the governments of the world to take action on climate change. in school, i'm learning about the effects of climate change and i'm learning that we need to do something, yet i'm seeing the people in charge and the people who are running our country aren't doing anything. to me, this is confusing, so i'm here today to step up and say no more. in today's exclusive film, we'll meet rhys williams — the 13—year—old boy with a life—limiting condition that leaves him in constant pain.
everywhere is sore. it's painful everyday. just pain. just one night he was in so much pain, he sent me a text wishing that the butterflies would come and take him, because he'd had enough. he'd had enough of the pain. that was... that was heartbreaking. now his friends have got together to show him how much they care. we'll bring you that film at around 10.30. dave! cheering and this was the moment last night when dave was announced as the winner of the mercury music prize. i know i tell this story all the time, but i want to thank my brother christopher, who inspired this album. this is your story that we told and even though you can't be here with us today, i know you are watching this, bro, and i am so grateful. thank you, guys, so much.
hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. are you or your kids taking part in today's global climate strike? get in touch and what you think about that. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. first — annita mcveigh has the news. joanna, thank you. millions of people around the world are expected to take part in what could be the largest ever climate change protest today. some demonstrations, like this one in sydney, are already under way. more than 5,000 are planned in over 150 countries. protesters are calling for governments to take more urgent action to halt global warming. the brexit secretary stephen barclay will hold talks with the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier in brussels later
today. yesterday, mr barclay said the eu would have to be "less rigid" if it wanted to reach a deal. meanwhile, the european commission president, jean—claude juncker, has said it's still possible that a new brexit deal could be reached by the end of next month. we can have a deal. you think we can get a deal. i think. you think that the chances are more than 50—50? i don't know, but i'm doing everything to have a deal because i don't like the idea of no deal because this would have catastrophic consequences. it's better for britain, and for the european union, to have an organised deal. the future of travel company thomas cook is hanging in the balance this morning, after it was hit with a last—minute demand to find £200 million in extra funding to secure an emergency rescue deal. britain's oldest package—holiday firm had hoped to seal a rescue led by china's fosun this week.
but its banks say the deal can't be completed unless extra contingency funds are put in place. if the company collapses, up to 150,000 holiday—makers could be left stranded. a number of conservative party members have been suspended for posting or endorsing islamophobic posts online — after the bbc revealed more than 20 new cases to the party. conservative officials said all those involved who were party members, who shared or supported anti—muslim posts on twitter and facebook, had been suspended immediately. but they wouldn't say exactly how many members that affected. the canadian prime ministerjustin trudeau has had to apologise again — after new evidence emerged of him dressing up in a racially offensive way. following yesterday's revelation that he had worn brown—face make—up for an arabian knights fancy dress gala in 2001, two more similar incidents have now been revealed. in a fresh statement to reporters, he said he could not remember how often he had worn the make—up
as a younger man and that he "deeply, deeply" regretted his behaviour. a severe tropical storm has caused heavy flooding in the us states of louisiana and texas, leaving at least two people dead. in the city of houston, the storm damaged homes, brought down power lines, flooded streets, and forced schools to close. some areas suffered up to 35 inches of rain, and a state of disaster was declared in several texan counties. the rapper dave has won the mercury prize for his debut album, psychodrama, which has been described as "the boldest and best british rap album in a generation". the south london—born star beat anna calvi and the 1975 to win the prize, which recognises the best british album of the last year. released in march, psychodrama entered the uk charts at number one and has sold nearly 130,000 copies. that is a summary of the main use of
the day so far. joanna, back to you. millions of people around the world are expected to take part today in what could be the largest ever climate change protest. around 5,000 demonstrations are planned, in more than 150 countries. there've aready been protests in australia and events in the uk are due to start in the next hour. demonstrators are calling for urgent action from governments all over the world to halt global warming. there are two marches in delhi, which has often been in the headlines for its toxic air. in the uk, more than 200 events are scheduled. the demonstrations are being held ahead of a united nations summit on climate change, which begins in new york on monday. so what do the students want, how do they think they'll get it? and should business be playing a much bigger role in the climate debate. let's talk now to uk drill rapper drillminister, who raps about the climate and is wearing a balaclava to protect his identity.
he willjoin us later on. jess ahmed from the uk student climate network who are the organisers of today's strikes, hilaryjones is the ethics director at cosmetic company lush, they're shutting down the majority of their 928 shops across 38 countries in support of today strike. conservative mp vicky ford is in essex, she has been meeting some students going on the strike. jess baum and her daughter zippy are in bristol this morning, they'll both be protesting today. and we can speak to 9 year old ping ping from her primary school in cumbria, where she's also protesting. ping ping, you are the youngest protester among us, why are you protesting today? it is important for climate change. what do you know
about what is going on? we are producing too much black smoke and it is making a hole in the ozone layer. how do you feel about that? i'm very upset about it. what are your concerns? 0bviously, i'm very upset about it. what are your concerns? obviously, you are very young at the moment. what do you think about what might happen in the future? that we are not being a good inheritance for our children so they will have a bad life. how do you feel about what is being done or not done because obviously you are worried not enough is being done about it. what do you think about the adults in charge at the moment? they are not doing enough so it is leaving us children to do it. do you feel like that is a responsibility for you? yes. thank you, ping feel like that is a responsibility foryou? yes. thank you, ping ping. you are not allowed to leave your school today so you are doing a sit
in there. what do the teachers think about it? that i'm being very good about it? that i'm being very good about it. our other kids joining you? no. are you telling them what is going on, are they showing an interest in it? not really. 0k, we will be back with you in a minute. let me bring in zippy, demonstrating today with her mum, jess. they are in bristol. what are your feelings on the situation and why you are protesting today? my feelings are... i'm sad about climate change because i really love the animals and i don't want them to become extinct. and if they become extinct, we will
become extinct as well. how long have you been aware of this sort of stuff? umm. .. has it have you been aware of this sort of stuff? umm... has it been worrying you for a while? umm quite a while, yes. you are with your mum, jess. what are your concerns? how do you feel about your daughter getting involved and she, along with other kids? it is interesting. in a way it has to come from the kids. there have been many opportunities to take on protests and strikes and zippy has recently become vegetarian. she has recently become vegetarian. she has always loved animals and i think children are very connected to the world around them. as the grown—ups,
we have inherited this and we pass things down. it is our responsibility to handover a safe world to them. and also set an example as a parent that we actually have a responsibility and we can make a difference and actually, you can makea make a difference and actually, you can make a difference when you gather communities, and when you get together. children have as equal a voice as the grown—up world, the most important voice, really. they are the ones who will inherit this earth. it is our responsibility here in this part of the world, we have created such a mess. we've done amazing things too but we are seeing science show us that there is a huge
impact that what we do here is having a huge impact in other parts of the world. zippy, we will be speaking to a member of parliament ina minute. speaking to a member of parliament in a minute. what would you say directly to politicians that you wa nt to directly to politicians that you want to happen? umm,| umm, iwould umm, i would say... that they should also strike. because otherwise they will not be able no... and know how
it feels. how it will feel and felt. they will know what it is like to strike. and they will do it. we will speak to our politician in a minute but before we go to her, i want to hear from but before we go to her, i want to hearfrom jess. but before we go to her, i want to hear from jess. you are involved with the uk student climate network which is behind these protests. what is the concrete action you want to see? what i want is for the government to implement a green deal to acknowledge the severity of the climate crisis and communicate it to the general public. i want the education system to be reformed and centred around the climate crisis so the youth of today know how to deal with this and what action to take moving forward and how this will affect our future directly. and on that you say you want the government to acknowledge the severity of what is going on with climate change. the british government has a target of
zero emissions by 2050. it is the first developed country to actually enshrine that in law. why do you think they are not taking it seriously? i think that is talk and what we need is direct action now. you've had enough from the government to flesh out how they will reach that target? yes. it is good to have goals and that we have goals moving forward but we need action and direct action now, not tomorrow or next year but today. vicki ford, you are the voice of politics with us today. on that point about concrete action, and the target that the government does have, which has been recognised as being something that is exceptional among governments in developed countries. however, what are the steps that will be done to make that happen? that is something worrying people. absolutely, climate change is the biggest challenge that we
face. not only in the uk but across the world. it needs global action. britain has a leading role to play. indeed, it has taken more action than any other country, both in cutting our own emissions faster than any other leading economy. we have cut our emissions by a third in the last decade. we are leading the campaignfor the last decade. we are leading the campaign for clean coal across the world, getting it out of the energy system is vital and britain is leading the charge. and also leading on renewables, especially offshore. we have seen the announcement today of 12 new offshore wind that will power 7 million homes. that is the cheapest form of renewable energy and absolutely, i agree with the passion of young people that action needs to be taken but i would also
say that we are taking action and we are showing global leadership. next year will be a crucial year for the uk when we host that conference on climate change in glasgow in 2020, it is up to us to bring the world together and it is important we lead on this. i want to put you in direct conversation 110w. on this. i want to put you in direct conversation now. 0bviously on this. i want to put you in direct conversation now. obviously you have said what the government is doing that just does not said what the government is doing thatjust does not feel that said what the government is doing that just does not feel that you said what the government is doing thatjust does not feel that you are doing enough. when you hear that, what do you think? i think it is good but more action needs to be taken and students will keep to strike until all of our demands are met. what is not being done that you want? it sounds like what she was talking about goes some way to addressing what you concerned about? it does link and i'm happy about that but we need a green new deal.
what would that be? it means the total decarbonisation in ten years and providing sustainable jobs for workers. it means free public transport and accessible plant —based foods, helping people who cannot make the change to a better diet so quickly. vicky, do you want to respond to that? i would say that yes, there are a huge number of steps that need to be taken. i have worked with conservative colleagues ona worked with conservative colleagues on a manifesto for the environment andi on a manifesto for the environment and i believe conservatism and environment goes hand—in—hand, the clue is in the name and those issues mentioned are what we need the government to take action on. the science is clear and it says that we need to cap the temperature growth
at 1.5 need to cap the temperature growth at1.5 degrees, and need to cap the temperature growth at 1.5 degrees, and that needs to be done by 2050. that is what scientists are telling us. that is what they are taking leadership on. it is incredibly important that we do this in a way that brings all people together working together. 0n theissue people together working together. 0n the issue of strikes, some of my schools are able to support their kids and students going on to the strikes today and have catch up lessons. 0thers strikes today and have catch up lessons. others just cannot do that. it is really important that young people do not miss their lessons because we need our climate scientists and engineers of the future. we need communicators of the future. we need communicators of the future and it is really important they do not skip school as well. you are saying no kids should be skipping school today to go on this demonstration? no, i'm saying some of my schools are able to support their students so they can catch up with lessons later. other schools have said they cannot do that and
they are asking their students not to miss their lessons. we need the education too. it is absolutely vital we have our next generation of geographers. it is just vital we have our next generation of geographers. it isjust one day and the kids, there are two here, there are many more like them who want grown—ups to hear what they are saying and are taking action because they feel grown—ups have not been taking it seriously for a very long time. and i absolutely hear them and share their passion. if they are going to miss their lessons then please make sure that you catch up. but i must respect my head teachers too, some are encouraging their stu d e nts too, some are encouraging their students not to take part. it is a challenging one, and i understand a lot of people will say that this is one day. but it is really important that we also work together with the schools on this. hilary jones, you are the ethics director at lush, a
lot of people and your company is getting involved by closing stores across 38 countries and the website for 24—hour is an opposing factory production. how much will that cost your company? we have not looked. we will find out in a long time. probably a figure we don't want to look at right now but the cost of not doing it is more. the cost of not doing it is more. the cost of not listening to this message will be more for all of us. so, the actions we take now will save the future. whatever it costs will be worth doing if people like this listen and change policies if other businesses get on board. do you feel it makes a difference? that policymakers do stop and listen?” think what the youth are doing is amazing. scientists were not listening. we have wasted years on this. don't do this to children as well. they have put everything on
hold to get us to stand up and listen. 0ur hold to get us to stand up and listen. our company is doing all they can to listen to the message and other businesses need to take it on—board. these businesses have caused climate change. what do businesses need to do to take more responsibility? we need to be taxed more on flights and look at our supply chains, look at water use and look at how we are using global south to produce things for us and fly it into our countries. every action we take as businesses we need to look at and look at what we are doing to damage the environment and lessen it as fast as we can. your business is doing that because you wa nt business is doing that because you want to. if businesses do not want to and it impacts on the bottom line, how do you make them? politicians need to make them on—board. climate change is happening far quicker than scientists predicted. it is at the
worst enter predictions and these are the guys that will inherit the mess that we have made. there isn't a choice at this stage. ping ping, a final word from you. you started our conversation today. what would you say people watching about the future and how you feel about climate change? i feel about climate change because it is happening now. if we do not solve it soon, then people who grow up will have a bad life. thank you, thank you all forjoining us. thank you, thank you all forjoining us. it said that we would be joined by drillminister, unfortunately he has not arrived yet, his latest song is aboutair has not arrived yet, his latest song is about air pollution and tackling that. it will be good to hear his thoughts later on if we can. and coming up... we'll find out why the kindness of strangers has helped rhys, a 13—year—old boy with a
life—limiting skin peeling condition, feel, in his words, a lot better. dave... cheering and this was the moment last night when dave was announced as the winner of the mercury music prize. that was for his album, psychodrama. 0ur entertainment correspondent colin paterson was there and will tell us all about it. 150,000 british holiday—makers could be left stranded if thomas cook goes bust this weekend. it had hoped to seal a rescue deal but has been hit with a last minute demand to secure 200 million pounds in extra funding. if the holiday firm collapses, the civil aviation authority would be required to bring holiday—makers home at an estimated cost of £600m. our business correspondent katie prescott is here. katie, it is difficult times for the company and not for anyone to —— and for anyone travelling with them.
explain the timeframe and what is happening? this is about cash flow. thomas cook has been struggling to make enough money to pay its debts and we are coming up to a difficult time of year. the travel industry is seasonal, we have come out of the busy summer and we are approaching winter, where travel companies have to spend money to secure holidays and flights for the years ahead. it's a perfect storm, it's a low pound so thomas cook has to buy in euros and dollars which makes it more expensive and it is very competitive. there is the rise of low—cost airlines, for example, which squeezes the margins on customers. now, thomas cook's lenders have said that you need to secure more money so you have more vacation in place during the winter so vacation in place during the winter so that we know that you can pay your debts. it is a very tight timeframe because you have a couple of days to do this but we have secured a rescue deal. thomas cook isa secured a rescue deal. thomas cook is a viable business and they have 19 million customers a year. they
have a well—recognised brand and its biggest shareholder that owns club med, fuson, they own 90% of business and that is being voted on. they need to get to next friday to see it through. they survived difficult times before, it is the worlds old est times before, it is the worlds oldest travel company. it's an amazing thing. when something like this is out there, it will make people feel worried. is there a danger that it could exacerbate the problems? we have to tread carefully as the company has not gone bust yet. they have a deal on the table which could secure their future. customers should not worry. if you have booked a package holiday, you are underpinned by at all protected, and that means that you can get a refu nd and that means that you can get a refund and will be brought back to
the country should you already be on holiday. if you havejust the country should you already be on holiday. if you have just booked flights, you will be covered by your insurer or your credit card company. for now, customers should be reassured. we have to wait and see. thank you. rhys williams turns 1a tomorrow. but he's told this programme that his birthdayjust means he's spent another year living in constant pain. rhys has a severe case of life—limiting condition epidermolysis bullosa — which leads to excessive tearing of the skin, blistering, difficulties in swallowing and his fingers and toes being fused together. now, ahead of his birthday, rhy‘s friends have got together to show him just how loved he is. and just a warning that you may find some of the pictures in clairejones' film distressing. painful, horrible, got to deal with it. he sent me a text wishing the butterflies would come and take him. because he'd had enough. he'd had enough of the pain. it's a very complex condition. and, again, we didn't know how
long he'd be with us — how long we will be with us. i'm all right with people being there, it's just when they walk past and they keep staring. sometimes, i struggle to move in bed, because i'm really sore. everywhere, it's sore. painful every day. 2a/7, just pain. as soon as i'd given birth, they could tell there was something wrong. he had no skin on his feet at all. it wasjust flesh. rhys has recessive dystrophic, generalised severe. the recessive is from both of the parents. it affects him everywhere and internally, as well. he gets blisters in his throat. his throat can close up. for him, just swallowing...the tongue's fused to the bottom of his mouth. obviously, all his fingers and toes are fused.
so, yeah, internal is worst, because he has to have heart scans, because it can affect his heart, as well. rhys has a rare life—limiting and agonising skin condition called epidermolysis bullosa — or eb — which causes skin to become very fragile and can blister or tear at even the slightest touch. it's estimated there are 5,000 people living with eb in the uk. currently, there's no known cure. rhys was born with the condition and has been living with the effects ever since. he has protective dressings all over his body to prevent infection and, as soon as blisters arise, they are popped with a sterile needle. he has a bath once a week to fully clean his wounds, and all of his dressings are then replaced. i know i need the bath, and dressing change because of how sore i am. so i know i need it.
when i'm having it, ithink of the goodness when i've finished, because i feel loads better. he's been like this for, i'd say, for a few months now — a bit down in the dumps. i think he's got to that age now where he's realising that things are difficult for him to do, like go out with his friends and stuff like that. just one night, he was in so much pain, he sent me a text wishing that the butterlies would come and take him, because he'd had enough, he'd had enough of the pain. that was... that was heartbreaking. there was nothing... sorry. there was nothing that i could say...to make him feel better. 0h, a celebrity, rhys, today! good morning. today, we'rejoining rhys at his school. as new students start the school year, september can be a particularly tricky time for him.
i'm all right with people being there, it's just when they walk past and theyjust keep staring. i try and ignore them, but itjust... there's that many, it just doesn't work. so what's your favorite lesson? animal care, at the minute. we learn about loads of animals. then we get to look after some animals, as well. we've got some snakes and hamsters. some guinea pigs. and we're looking at getting some fish. if rhys develops any blisters during the day, i'm trained on how to take the blister down to relieve the pain. 0urjob is to make sure that he's happy. and if, in school, i can help that, then that's myjob done. students at rhys's school have been learning about genetic disorders. they decided they wanted to do something to help. the fact that rhys in year nine has epidermolysis bullosa, which is caused by a recessive gene.
we heard about a charity called jeans for genes to help people with genetic diseases. so we made a few different ideas and this charity loop, we decided, was the best idea. and then a few of us decided to stay behind after school and make them. the students here are fantastic with rhys. they support him. they want to get involved everything. he started in 2017 as quite a shy young boy. we've worked really hard with rhys to make sure that he's confident, safe and happy here. students are selling badges to raise money for rhys. poured our heart and soul into making them. and it shows that you are one of us and that we stand with you and we do always. thank you. rhys is preparing to celebrate his birthday. how excited are you to be turning 14? don't know, to be honest. it's an age, isn't it, 14?
um... i don't know. we were talking just now about eb being a life—limiting condition. so for you to reach another birthday, what does that mean to you? it feels like... it's another year i've gone through of being sore — all day, every year. but a public appeal for birthday cards by rhys's mum has lifted his spirits. we've had nearly 18,000 cards now. he's had hundreds upon hundreds of presents. never... didn't i expect anything, you know. just a card would have made his day, you know. but the people who've sent presents have just made his day even more.
rhys, keep smiling and don't give up hope that, one day, things will get better for you. isn't that nice? yeah, i know that people actually do care about my condition and that. it's made me feel a lot better. and if you've been affected by what's we've been talking about, there is a range of organisations and websites that can offer you advice and support. you can find them listed on the bbc‘s actionline website at bbc.co.uk/actionline. a couple of comments to reduce from those of you watching at home. that poor boy, my heart goes out to him,
god bless him. and another twitter theory says i'm so glad people took time to send cards. and we can talk now to a specialist in the condition. how rare is this condition? thank you, thank you for asking me to talk. it's extremely rare, we are very lucky to have people in the uk, we have designated centres of expertise to look after race and children and adults with this condition, it's a very rare disease. and there is no cure, is there? what treatment is there? there a lot that we can do to try
and make certain things a bit better but you are absolutely right, we don't have a definitive treatment at the moment and there is no cure. there is a huge amount of research going on supported by the charity that does a tremendous amount of work with families and scientific work. but there is no actually treatment at the moment that we are able to deliver to the families, sadly. and we heard in the interview with rees and his mum, it is a life limiting condition and it's obviously something that he is aware of and it's desperately sad to hear him talking about living with pain all the time, when he was asked about his birthday and his mum saying, he's really tired of life. —— rhys. what is the life expectancy for someone with this? it's very variable, i think rhys has a very severe type of this condition. there
isa severe type of this condition. there is a very high risk, unfortunately, of developing square cell carcinoma, the risk is high with this type of condition and the life expectancy is definitely reduced. but it's variable. and it's a genetic condition? how many generations can the gene passed through without people even being aware that it is there? with this condition, it's a recessive condition, parents are the carriers, they are healthy so they are not aware that they carry this gene. we all carry genes that have genetic changes, so it's not until both parents who carry the same gene meet and have a child that the child will be affected. parents often, they are carriers and unaware that they are carriers and unaware that they carry this condition. how many patients do you see who are suffering from it? so, typically, in
the uk, we estimate there are around 800 people with severe types of this condition, in my centre, in london, we have around 25—30 children with this type of eb. it's extremely rare, highly complex disease and the ca re rare, highly complex disease and the care needed is very, very specialised indeed. thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. much for taking the time to talk to us. thank you. let's get more on our top story millions of people are taking to the streets around the world, for what could be the biggest global climate change protest in history. around 5,000 demonstrations are planned — with rallies already taking place in cities in australia, thailand, kenya and south africa. here, thousands of schoolchildren are expected to walk out of classrooms to attend events across the uk. we're going talk in a moment to drillminister, whose latest track is a rap about air pollution.
10,000 premature deaths in london is tampered. i sit supreme. emissions go through the roof. money for the diesel is toxic. these mps twiddling their thumbs, forgetting they are there for the public. the air is toxic. we don't have freedom of speech. infecting our brains. the system knows. carries on the same. smoke the choke. everybody choke. evolution comes, death by rope. you are wearing a balaclava to protect your identity, why? it's one of two reasons. the people that i am attacking is obviously the government, the country we live in, i have to protect the people around
me, my message is very strong, it's not agreed by everybody and secondly, i feel as though a lot of people get caught up in materialistic things are things that are not important, like if everyone was planned, would they care about what i look like? they would feel my essence, you're my music, my energy of what i'm doing and the message i deliver to their ears and that is what would be important so that's the most important thing. when you say you were attacking the government, obviously that song is aboutair government, obviously that song is about air pollution. do you see yourself as an activist? i'm an activist. every single thing that the people want me to be, it's the people that put me in this position, the people empower me every day. the message is to help people, people really empower me to do something. what do you want the government to do? i want the government to move down the legislation that they have right now of banning diesel and
petrol in 2040 and bringing it down to 2030 because i believe the disadvantaged people, the background that i am from, the people that are underprivileged and the working class, in 2040, all of the cars that are hybrid or economical right now, they are going to be ...i are hybrid or economical right now, they are going to be i don't wa nt to they are going to be i don't want to buy that car, i want the government to help put electric cars on the road right now, help all of the black cab people, all the uber drivers, the people using these vehicles to get around the city and enrich their lives, why can't we why can the government do something and put something in place to help us and put something in place to help us and kids who pass away from air pollution? we are killing the future, we are killing the children of our future. when you said about the poor people, what did you mean?
imean the poor people, what did you mean? i mean the people that don't shop in waitrose in terms of climate change? the climate change is going to be affected by everybody, everybody is going to be affected by climate change no matter your class but ultimately, like, i was asked, the highest pollution levels in kensington and chelsea, westminster, this is where the pollution is at its most. those areas, the people from my areas work in asda there, they work in tesco, they work in all of the normal shops that are on those high streets in those areas. when the toxic levels of pollution goes down at night, the people that live there, that own those houses in kensington and chelsea, it's fine for them but during the day, the working class people, the everyday people that make this country run, they are the one taking on the pollution, taking in all of the toxic pollution that is going around
from the way the city is moving right now. that's not acceptable. the government has to put in an initiative, something the government is putting on initiatives in london. there are measures to stop polluting vehicles in the centre of town, there is the high emissions charges own. the government has legislated for zero emissions by 2050, i know you said you want that to be brought forward, the government is taking action. they are not taking action in the speed that i believe. i believe when you've got little children dying at four years old, this was six years ago, and you are telling me there's low emissions, six years later, how many young children have to die before we address the situation, that's not good enough? 2050 is not good enough because my problem is, a lot of the economical cars that exist right now, they will be 2002 plates are equivalent in 2040, this
is what you want the underclass to buy because that will be the only way they will be able to drive around london or do whatever needs to be done. that's the way i see it. i see it, if you put measures in place right now, if you start to speed up the process, we can help the future right now, as opposed to waiting until it gets to the future and saying how did we get here? will you join the march today?” and saying how did we get here? will you join the march today? i will be front line, they know i am for the people, ask the people around, the video that you lotjust people, ask the people around, the video that you lot just so people, ask the people around, the video that you lotjust so will be dropping on crime daily today at 5pm. i need to push the message right now, the website is called address pollution,. 0rg. you can check the pollution levels regular. —— grime daily. affecting the housing market, the housing market is going to be affected by people knowing what the pollution of their area is, this is the only reason, the only reason the government
administers to, this is all they respond to, money and finance. they put finance over lives, we will shove the finances in your face until you react. shove the finances in your face untilyou react. a shove the finances in your face until you react. a quick thought, one musician to another, dave winning psychodrama at the mercury music awards. proud beyond belief of what dave has managed to achieve, his message, he is one of the most inspirational artists out there right now, that i am looking towards, i look up to. he is that quy- towards, i look up to. he is that guy. hear me, boom! we will talk more about that, thank you so much. let's bring in some of your comments. peter says if everyone had their own solar panels and wind turbine the worries about climate change and global warming would be solved at a stroke. young people need to get their parents to boycott companies which prevent this. one anonymous text it says climate change is caused by using carbon, humans use carbon, cut the growth of population you will cut the amount of carbon, it's the only way to slow down global warning. kimberley says
we are striking in lincoln for the future of our kids, let us know your thoughts. if you want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message, texts will be charged at the standard network rate. even with no parliament in session there seems to be no quiet week in politics at the moment. we've had a complex court case, the prime minister being "empty podiumed" at a news conference and then boris johnson being confronted by an angry dad in a hospital. so, after another whirlwind week, it's time for another instalment of flashback friday. let's hear from two top political brains as they train to make sense of what's happened this week in under a minute. first up we have hannah al—0thman from buzzfeed uk. next we have sebastian payne from the financial times. hammock, we will give you 60
seconds. we started the week in politics in bournemouth, for the lib dem conference. members voted to go for the nuclear option on brexit — their new policy is to effectively cancelling brexit, if they win the next general election. it's not gone down well with everyone — some of their own members objected saying it was too radical. new leaderjo swinson's big speech was on tuesday, but at the same time back in london a hearing was underway at the supreme court to decide whether borisjohnson's advice to the queen to suspend parliament was unlawful. we expect the results from that next week, could have huge applications for the government if they lose and it could throw a spanner in the works of the party conference. 0n wednesday, boris johnson works of the party conference. 0n wednesday, borisjohnson suffered from a press opportunity gone wrong when he was confronted by an angry dad at a hospital in london. the father took him to task over nhs funding and also criticised him from bringing journalists into the hospital. and the prime minister
initially denied there was press there but unfortunately for him the whole exchange was caught on television cameras. thank you. it's a toughjob television cameras. thank you. it's a tough job to television cameras. thank you. it's a toughjob to bring it all into television cameras. thank you. it's a tough job to bring it all into a minute, you did great, thank you. and we will send sebastian, welcome, your time to go and sit in the hot seat. you have one minute, the same as hannah. this week was all a little bit of history repeating, david cameron was backin history repeating, david cameron was back in the headlines. after spending three years in his shepherd's hut writing his memoirs for the record, the former prime minister gave us some acerbic thoughts on the people who brought his political career to an end. that includes michael gove, who he accused of breaking up his whole political project and destroying their friendship. political project and destroying theirfriendship. and of course borisjohnson, some words for his successor. he said mrjohnson doesn't really believe in brexit and
he was simply doing it for political opportunism. but those weren't the harshest moments for the prime minister this week. he went back trying further hopes of a new brexit deal and although he had a nice glass of red wine withjean—claude juncker in brussels it was a slightly cooler welcome from the luxembourg premier, the pair tried to have a press conference but he was facing an empty podium by his rival prime minister. in fact, things looked better for brexit, mr johnson might not worry too much about what other prime ministers had to say. you knocking a few extra seconds but we will let you off, sebastian, thank you. where to start, i guess if we go chronologically, that moment of the empty podium, it was an extraordinary thing to happen, never seen extraordinary thing to happen, never seen anything like it. as you look back over the week, hannah, do you think it will have an impact beyond the drama of the moment?”
think it will have an impact beyond the drama of the moment? i mean, i suppose it doesn't help, boris johnson, if he is to get a deal, he needs to build these relations with eu leaders and things like that, they really don't build goodwill so i think, it could have an ongoing impact. jean-claude juncker, sebastian, has said he's not, he used a word, i think he was wanting to say emotionally attached, but he said erotic, about the backstop! does it look like there's a deal starting to look more possible?” think there's crucial bits of movement that we've seen, the eu saying we will open the withdrawal agreement despite months of saying they wouldn't but they have also said at the backstop is going to go, this is the insurance policy to ensure there is never a hard border on the island of ireland, they will have to replace it with something that does the same thing so that's still a big challenge for boris johnson but there's also been movement from the dup as well, the
northern irish party which props up mrjohnson because my government, he doesn't really have a majority but they are there to keep them in power, they've always been against any kind of backstop, they have now said in fact we would be open to special relations deal for northern ireland. and the other bit of movement has been from the prime minister because he always said the backstop has to go entirely. what he is saying now is in fact, we need to tweak it, change it in some way so if you put those three things together, you can begin to see a landing zone for a deal but it's still going to be incredibly difficult because even though jean—claude juncker was very emotive and welcoming to mrjohnson this week, when you compare it to the land of mr patel who is much harsher, in fact you are messing around, we need new proposals, it suggests there is a long way to go and there's 40 days to go until brexit died. the outcome of the supreme court may yet well impact on
what mps can do from here. what are your thoughts, hannah, looking what mps can do from here. what are yourthoughts, hannah, looking back over an extra ordinary opportunity, wasn't it, to see these top brains grappling with the question of whether boris johnson grappling with the question of whether borisjohnson has breached the law in suspending parliament?” was in court for all three days of the hearing and it's ultimately going to come down to two things, whether they decide it is something the courts can intervene on in principle and also whether they think the prime minister was unlawful in this particular case so they are the kind of two angles of they are the kind of two angles of thejudges will be they are the kind of two angles of the judges will be looking at, 11 of the judges will be looking at, 11 of the country ‘s best legal minds and they are going to take a weekend to thrash out the arguments that they have heard and decide what they think. and we don't really know what's going to happen so the last pa rt what's going to happen so the last part of the hearing they talked about what would happen going forward , about what would happen going forward, the legal term is remedy, how they would fix it. i think the impact of that would be that
parliament, the order would be null and void but then we are in conference and void but then we are in co nfe re nce recess , and void but then we are in conference recess, so and void but then we are in conference recess, so if they called mps back to parliament, i mean, the labour party conference is meant to last until wednesday and that the conservative party conference is meant to kick off on sunday so we don't really know, it's all a bit up in the air. initially the judges mightjust issue a declaration if they decide against the government, thatis they decide against the government, that is and say that's null and void but then we don't know if they might also offer further instructions such as parliament has to come back or if they mightjust as parliament has to come back or if they might just wait as parliament has to come back or if they mightjust wait and as parliament has to come back or if they might just wait and leave as parliament has to come back or if they mightjust wait and leave that in the hands of the prime minister and take action if it's needed. sebastian, it's been another week where we can look back and see how things have landed in terms of where the parties are positioned and how things will for them, with connecting with the public on brexit or not. and especially with the lib dems and labour repositioning themselves. liberal democrats have taken anotherjump themselves. liberal democrats have taken another jump towards themselves. liberal democrats have taken anotherjump towards being the
most hardcore party of remain, they are saying if we formed a majority government which is a long way away, we should forget there no obvious intention we could get to that but if they formed a majority government they would simply revoke article 50, no referendum, no further democratic event to use that phrase, what they are trying to do their is out front labour, labour or the party of the referendum in all circumstances, but the labour party were doing that referendum is going to be the big question of the conference which kicks off in brighton on sunday because jeremy corbyn has simply saidl because jeremy corbyn has simply said i would do a harold wilson, stand back and let the public decide andl stand back and let the public decide and i wouldn't take a view are neither leaving with a labour brexit or remaining within the eu. and that is going to be a big question for the labour leader because so many people in the party want them to be the remain party, emily thornberry, john mcdonnell, lots of senior people within labour want to say we need to be the party of remain but in fact, i'm not sure jeremy corbyn is quite there yet and the tories, they are very much the party of
brexit, come what may, do or die by the 315t of october so we are probably going to have a general election at some point before the end of the year and you can already see it will be another election fought on brexit but the tories will be the brexit party, and the lib dems and labour battling for the remain vote. quickly before we wrap up, another moment of on camera drama, what happened in the hospital, borisjohnson heckled by the father of a child who is a week old being cared for in the hospital, let's listen. the nhs has been destroyed. there's not enough doctors, not enough nurses. it's being destroyed. and now you come here for a press opportunity. there is no press here. what do you mean there is no press here? or what do you mean there is no press here? 0rare what do you mean there is no press here? or are these people? sir, could you just stop what did you
make of that, hannah? it didn't turn out the way the prime minister intended, turned out it was organised by downing street, to reinforce his messages of privatising the nhs and it com pletely privatising the nhs and it completely backfired. he said it's pa rt completely backfired. he said it's part of thejob, completely backfired. he said it's part of the job, it's not embarrassing, it's what the job is about. thank you both so much. thank you. the mercury prize for the best british or irish album of the last 12 months has gone to the rapper, dave. let's see the moment when he won. dave! cheering. the 21 year—old from streatham in south london won for his debut record, psychodrama. let's see him performing on stage last night. # ijust want # i just want to bring her to # ijust want to bring her to my room and test drive # colin paterson was at the awards last night.
it was described as the boldest and best british rap album in a generation, the the judges said it showed true artistry, courage and honesty. quite an accolade. big commercial hit, its been called the best album of the year by this panel ofjudges, for people who haven't heard it, it's a vulnerable album, dave going through what it was like to bea dave going through what it was like to be a young black man growing up in streatham without a father, he speaks about anxiety, speaks about depression, not normally what you get on a hip—hop album and it speaks about his brother, christopher, he dedicated the award to him last night. his brother was jailed for murderfor night. his brother was jailed for murder for 18 night. his brother was jailed for murderfor 18 years for a night. his brother was jailed for murder for 18 years for a knife crime and murder of victoria station in 2012. his voice actually appears on the album in a phone call from prison. but dave educated the award to him last night and i guess this is one of the things about the album, it comes over as so real, what he's been dealing with. he
refers to specifically, psychodrama, the therapy his brother is getting in prison. yes, this is where offenders actually work through and recreate scenes from their life and thatis recreate scenes from their life and that is what dave has done with the album, it starts with a psychotherapist saying this is your session, that's how the album works, a man on record through his own problems and issues and that's why it's appealed to the judges. he's 21. young guy. let's listen to what he said, it was a lovely moment when he said, it was a lovely moment when he went up with his mum. he took his mum on stage. i know i tell this story all the time, but i want to thank my brother christopher, who inspired this album. this is your story that we told and even though you can't be here with us today, i know you are watching this, bro, and i am so grateful. thank you, guys, so much. 21 yea rs old 21 years old and he's done some amazing things. great career ahead
of him. one of the artist last night, came on stage holding up a disembodied head of borisjohnson, tv cut to a lot of wide shots. that's what we call it. colin, thank you, thank you so much for your company today. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. have a good day. goodbye. good morning. some of us had some rather atmospheric autumnal conditions this morning, some fog which has lifted pretty much now, most parts of southern scotland, a bit of cloud you can see at the moment in the satellite imagery making its way towards east anglia,
living further west and north, giving us a bit of cloud this afternoon but really foremost, you can see clear skies, lots of sunny and warm weather throughout afternoon, this maximum temperature is widely getting into the 20s, 21-24dc in the is widely getting into the 20s, 21—24dc in the north—east of scotland. through this evening and tonight, not a great deal going on, bit more of a breeze, not seeing the mist and fog —like resort last night but there will be low cloud around, the east of scotland into saturday morning, overnight temperatures down to 9-11d, morning, overnight temperatures down to 9—11d, throughout saturday, more sunshine expected across the uk, bit of cloud developing across the west, warmer day. by sunday, a change, wetter weather coming in from the west. goodbye.
you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's 11 am and these are the main stories this morning. a day of global climate change protests. the aim, to get businesses and governments to cut emissions. around 5,000 demonstrations are planned across 150 countries, including here in the uk, ahead of a un summit on monday. thomas cook faces administration, unless it can raise more funds, leaving 150 , 000 holiday—makers stranded. the brexit secretary heads to brussels for talks with the eu's chief negotiator, after the european commission president said a deal could be done. a warning that thousands of teenagers in england are leaving education without the equivalent of five "good" gcses.