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this is bbc news — hour by hour, missile—by—missile — the fighting between israel and the palestians gets more deadly. until now the force has rained down from the sky. the concern at the un is that this becomes a full blown war. another tower block in gaza is destroyed — israel's prime minister warns palestinians this is just the beginning — as his military launches hundreds more air strikes. meanwhile — a barrage of rockets are fired from gaza into israel — mostly at tel aviv. stripped of her position, but not of her voice. republican liz cheney hits back after her own party kicked her out of leadership. also in the programme....
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could we have seen it coming? that's the question the wh— has been asking about the global pandemic — and the topic of michael lewis's new book. the authorjoins us shortly. and the david hockney london tube campaign that's prompted ridicule by some. is itfair? hello, i'm katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. after days of violence the world is growing increasingly alarmed at the situation in the middle east. the un security council is right now locked in urgent discussion. the us secretary of state is sending a top diplomat to the region and urging both sides to stand down. it's not clear whether either will have much success. meanwhile the casualities are mounting. at least 53 palestinians and six israelis have died since monday. israeli missiles destroyed another
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tower block in gaza. the militant group hamas has confirmed — that several of its top commanders were killed. and has vowed revenge. overnight there was violent unrest in towns in israel with mixed jewish and arab populations which led to hundreds of arrests. lod near tel aviv is under a state of emergency. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said the government would use all its strength to protect israel from enemies on the outside and rioters on the inside. tom bateman reports from ashkelon in southern israel. the world's asking if the region is on the brink of war. people who woke to this feel it's already here. palestinians in gaza faced
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the fiercest israeli bombardment since the last all—out conflict. israel says it's going after militant leaders. some were killed in their homes. but civilians died in this strike, say palestinian health officials. in gaza, a territory under blockade, grief quickly turns to anger. dozens have now died since the violence erupted on monday. rocket fire from gaza has continued deep into israel, and the sirens are near nonstop in towns close by.
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sirens wail. ok, that's an interception — let's get in. as we've heard air strikes pound the gaza strip just a couple of miles away throughout the course of this morning and into the afternoon, more retaliation, more fire, from gaza. underfire, asha and his son ran for the safe room. but their neighbour, an 89—year—old woman, didn't make it. she is seriously injured. her carer died in the strike. there are growing international calls for restraint, but for now it seems that no one here is listening. it is the intensity of these attacks that has led both sides to say they will step up their strikes in retaliation. a descent into much further
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violence seems inevitable. more rockets are shot down in israel's skies, and the streets are burning too. a wave of palestinian rage that stemmed from jerusalem has spilled out to the occupied territories and to within israel itself. there has been violent confrontation in the mixed jewish—arab town of lod, where a state of emergency has been declared. israel's leader has described it as anarchy and sent in police reinforcements. there is plenty of talk about when all this might de—escalate, but for now it seems there's only preparation for the next phase of fighting. tom bateman, bbc news. let's speak rooshdi abualoaf our correspondent in gaza city.
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thank correspondent in gaza city. you very much forjoini benjamin thank you very much forjoining us. benjamin that yahoo has repeatedly said that this is just the beginning. there will be more strikes on gaza. what are people preparing for in gaza city tonight? i think the people in gaza city are preparing — i think the people in gaza city are preparing for more of this. it's been _ preparing for more of this. it's been a — preparing for more of this. it's been a very long night followed by a very long _ been a very long night followed by a very long day of bombing. it's the first since — very long day of bombing. it's the first since years that gaza is living — first since years that gaza is living through this amount of destruction by israeli air strikes, and destruction by israeli air strikes, end this— destruction by israeli air strikes, and this amount of rockets firing into isreel— and this amount of rockets firing into israel from gaza. this is by far the — into israel from gaza. this is by far the heaviest sense the 2014 51 day war — far the heaviest sense the 2014 51 day war. the atmosphere around me is really— day war. the atmosphere around me is really grim, _ day war. the atmosphere around me is really grim, and people are shaken by sounds — really grim, and people are shaken by sounds of explosion as well as scenes— by sounds of explosion as well as scenes of— by sounds of explosion as well as scenes of destruction, the scale of
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buildings, — scenes of destruction, the scale of buildings, big apartments, tower blocks— buildings, big apartments, tower blocks destroyed, very big for the pebble _ blocks destroyed, very big for the pebble of— blocks destroyed, very big for the people of gaza who have been suffering for a very long time from this ongoing conflict. 65 this ongoing conflict. 155; palestinians as far as we know have been killed so far, are there, do people in gaza feel that the israelis are trying to avoid civilian casualties are not? well, according to the health ministry, _ well, according to the health ministry, half of those killed are civilians. — ministry, half of those killed are civilians, including 14 children and devotes _ civilians, including 14 children and devotes five women. the israelis are targeting _ devotes five women. the israelis are targeting senior hamas leaders, but civilians _ targeting senior hamas leaders, but civilians on — targeting senior hamas leaders, but civilians on both sides, especially in a poor— civilians on both sides, especially in a poor place like gaza are paying a heavy— in a poor place like gaza are paying a heavy price for this conflict. in this time, — a heavy price for this conflict. in this time, it's not any different from _ this time, it's not any different from the — this time, it's not any different from the 15 years ago, or even
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before, — from the 15 years ago, or even before, always the civilians are caught — before, always the civilians are caught up _ before, always the civilians are caught up in this violence. we're about— caught up in this violence. we're about security compound within the city. they _ about security compound within the city. they are not far from the city, _ city. they are not far from the city, so — city. they are not far from the city, so when the israelis are targeting _ city, so when the israelis are targeting like 12 or 11—storey buildings, the rubble of the buildings, the rubble of the building will collapse in the surrounding area and will injure civitians — surrounding area and will injure civilians. it's very hard in this kind — civilians. it's very hard in this kind of— civilians. it's very hard in this kind of word to avoid civilian casualties. ending gaza, as i said, half of— casualties. ending gaza, as i said, half of those injured and killed were _ half of those injured and killed were civilians. you _ were civilians. you and i worked together in gaza city back in 2008, we spent a lot of time together there during that war, and on that occasion, there was an incursion can be israeli came in because they were after the tunnels, particularly the tunnels down in rafa. did you get a sense that this time they might be preparing to do the same thing? we have heard reports that they caught that 5000 reserves. would hamas be preparing
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right now for ground incursion? i right now for ground incursion? i mean, the latest statement from hanras— mean, the latest statement from hamas saying that we are prepared for a tong _ hamas saying that we are prepared for a long war, and that is the fora long war, and that is the hamas— for a long war, and that is the hamas leader telling hamas tv that we have _ hamas leader telling hamas tv that we have the capability to go on with this battle _ we have the capability to go on with this battle for a very long time, but the — this battle for a very long time, but the political message that we are getting from hamas is they are not interested in an urban work. they— not interested in an urban work. they are — not interested in an urban work. they are not interested in another work~ _ they are not interested in another work they — they are not interested in another work. they believe that they are defending the people of gaza, as they sat, — defending the people of gaza, as they sat, and they are ready to stop if israet— they sat, and they are ready to stop if israel stops. no one here is prepared _ if israel stops. no one here is prepared for another war. in terms of internat— prepared for another war. in terms of internal incursion or ground troops, — of internal incursion or ground troops, we _ of internal incursion or ground troops, we haven't noticed any sort of movements on the border, like if you remember, we had in 2008, 2009,
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but no _ you remember, we had in 2008, 2009, but no one _ you remember, we had in 2008, 2009, but no one knew how the situation would _ but no one knew how the situation would escalate if the rockets continue, if the victims on both sides— continue, if the victims on both sides continue, then we might see another— sides continue, then we might see another ground operation, but at this stage. — another ground operation, but at this stage, i don't think we are close _ this stage, idon't think we are close even— this stage, i don't think we are close even to this.— this stage, i don't think we are close even to this. 0k, thank you so much forjoining _ close even to this. 0k, thank you so much forjoining us. _ close even to this. 0k, thank you so much forjoining us. stay _ close even to this. 0k, thank you so much forjoining us. stay safe - much forjoining us. stay safe there. that is clearly a dangerous place to be tonight. jason greenblatt was former president donald trump s special envoy for middle east peace and the architect of his israel peace plan. hejoins us now from newjersey. thank you very much forjoining us, jason. were you still in the white house, what would you be advising the biden administration to do now? first baucom i would ask them to be more _ first baucom i would ask them to be more forceful in their condemnation of the _ more forceful in their condemnation of the iran— more forceful in their condemnation of the iran funded hamas terrorists, right? _ of the iran funded hamas terrorists, right? they— of the iran funded hamas terrorists, right? they are giving strong condemnation, but not strong enough, because _ condemnation, but not strong enough, because there is doubt and what they are saying. _ because there is doubt and what they are saying, and i think your
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correspondent tried to address that in a very— correspondent tried to address that in a very fair manner, i must say, and— in a very fair manner, i must say, and i_ in a very fair manner, i must say, and i hope — in a very fair manner, i must say, and i hope he— in a very fair manner, i must say, and i hope he is safe and stay safe, hanras— and i hope he is safe and stay safe, hamas has— and i hope he is safe and stay safe, hamas has its infrastructure in its rocket _ hamas has its infrastructure in its rocket launchers, etc within civitian _ rocket launchers, etc within civilian areas, and i'm sure israel is doing — civilian areas, and i'm sure israel is doing the — civilian areas, and i'm sure israel is doing the best that i possibly can to — is doing the best that i possibly can to avoid civilian damage, however. _ can to avoid civilian damage, however, it is virtually impossible for them — however, it is virtually impossible for them to — however, it is virtually impossible for them to do it given how hamas structures— for them to do it given how hamas structures things. sol for them to do it given how hamas structures things. so i would say to the biden— structures things. so i would say to the biden administration, give 100% clear support to israel. to do it, it has— clear support to israel. to do it, it has to — clear support to israel. to do it, it has to defend itself. the section will certify — it has to defend itself. the section will certify hamas raining down rockets — will certify hamas raining down rockets on israel for hamas to now say, wett, — rockets on israel for hamas to now say, well, we don't want to go to work, _ say, well, we don't want to go to work. this— say, well, we don't want to go to work. this is— say, well, we don't want to go to work, this is what happens when you fire rockets _ work, this is what happens when you fire rockets into civilian areas. if you lay — fire rockets into civilian areas. if you lay down your weapons, i'm sure israet— you lay down your weapons, i'm sure israet witt— you lay down your weapons, i'm sure israel will stop, you lay down your weapons, i'm sure israelwill stop, but you lay down your weapons, i'm sure israel will stop, but they keep escalating it. i myself was in a bomb— escalating it. i myself was in a bomb shelter multiple times la st last night. i was in israel, quebec to new— last night. i was in israel, quebec to newjersey this morning —— to new jersey _ to newjersey this morning —— to new jersey. after— to newjersey this morning —— to new jersey. after seeing what happen on the ground, it is a major escalation. the ground, it is a ma'or escalation.�* the ground, it is a ma'or escalation. , , escalation. during the trump administration, _
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escalation. during the trump administration, there - escalation. during the trump administration, there was . escalation. during the trump i administration, there was some feeling that the israeli—palestinian issue was taking a back—seat, that the focus was on other issues in the middle east. is that a problem that if the world leaves this issue to fester, the problem of the israeli—palestinian conflict doesn't go away, it'sjust israeli—palestinian conflict doesn't go away, it's just that the world is in paying attention to it and we are going to keep having flare—ups like this one. there are two answers to that question _ there are two answers to that question. it's not accurate to say that we _ question. it's not accurate to say that we were only focused on the israeti _ that we were only focused on the israeli arab conflict. which of the focusing — israeli arab conflict. which of the focusing on the entire complex, israeti _ focusing on the entire complex, israeti and — focusing on the entire complex, israeli and palestinian, but it was clear— israeli and palestinian, but it was clear once — israeli and palestinian, but it was clear once again the palestinians decided — clear once again the palestinians decided to back out of any form of good _ decided to back out of any form of good faith— decided to back out of any form of good faith negotiation. they blame it on president trump's historic decision— it on president trump's historic decision regarding true islam, but in the _ decision regarding true islam, but in the end. — decision regarding true islam, but in the end, time and time again, but patestinian _ in the end, time and time again, but palestinian leadership has failed to engage, _ palestinian leadership has failed to engage, so what we did is we separated out the two complex and we were able _ separated out the two complex and we were able to solve some of the conflict — were able to solve some of the conflict which needs a lot more work. — conflict which needs a lot more work, however, we took away the veto
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i’i l ht work, however, we took away the veto right from _ work, however, we took away the veto right from the palestinians. we did want to— right from the palestinians. we did want to solve the israeli—palestinian conflict if it was solvable, the second answer reatty _ was solvable, the second answer really is — was solvable, the second answer really is shown right now. even if the palestinian authority were willing — the palestinian authority were willing to sit down and to engage in -ood willing to sit down and to engage in good faith— willing to sit down and to engage in good faith on the core issues, it won't _ good faith on the core issues, it won't matter while hamas and palestinianjihad are in control and subjugating 2 million palestinians in gaza _ subjugating 2 million palestinians in gaza. unless and until we stop this terrorism, there is no solution to the _ this terrorism, there is no solution to the israeli—palestinian conflict, even _ to the israeli—palestinian conflict, even if— to the israeli—palestinian conflict, even if the — to the israeli—palestinian conflict, even if the parties are sitting down together — together. i - together. i want to take you back to together. — i want to take you back to an if your first answers. i want to take you back to an if yourfirst answers. he i want to take you back to an if your first answers. he said that it began with rockets raining down from hamas. it's monstrously true, is it? the support that the trump administration gave to benjamin netanyahu and the hard—liners in the israeli government meant that the settlement building in the west would advance more quickly. one of the key disputes this time is over the key disputes this time is over the eviction of palestinian families in eastjerusalem, and they don't feel that they have proper redress in the israeli courts, and while
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they are being treated unfairly like they are being treated unfairly like the outcome of the frustrations will build, one think? doesn't america have to be a fair arbiter between the tensions that there are in the region? the tensions that there are in the re . ion? ., ., the tensions that there are in the rerion? ., ., ,., , the tensions that there are in the rerion? ., ., , ., region? there are two parts to your ruestion. region? there are two parts to your question- the _ region? there are two parts to your question. the first _ region? there are two parts to your question. the first is _ region? there are two parts to your question. the first is you _ region? there are two parts to your question. the first is you are - question. the first is you are conftating _ question. the first is you are conflating up most people do, so i understand why you are doing that, these _ understand why you are doing that, these other issues with terrorism. i'm these other issues with terrorism. i'm happy— these other issues with terrorism. i'm happy to have a discussion from a totally— i'm happy to have a discussion from a totally separate discussion about the unrest — a totally separate discussion about the unrest that happened in jerusalem, about what you are talking — jerusalem, about what you are talking about, but what you call sediments, what i call cities and neighbourhoods, that discussion is completely separate from terrorism. terrorism _ completely separate from terrorism. terrorism is — completely separate from terrorism. terrorism is terrorism. people are using _ terrorism is terrorism. people are using it _ terrorism is terrorism. people are using it as— terrorism is terrorism. people are using it as an— terrorism is terrorism. people are using it as an excuse how hamas has excuse, _ using it as an excuse how hamas has excuse, they— using it as an excuse how hamas has excuse, they could rockets on civitians — excuse, they could rockets on civilians causing death and destructionjust because of the outcome — destructionjust because of the outcome doesn't work. it you have a discussion— outcome doesn't work. it you have a discussion about terrorism separate,., nothing else. you want to have _ separate,., nothing else. you want to have a _ separate,., nothing else. you want to have a separate discussion about, israet— to have a separate discussion about, israet has _ to have a separate discussion about, israet has a — to have a separate discussion about, israel has a court system just like the united — israel has a court system just like the united kingdom, imagine ifi told you — the united kingdom, imagine ifi told you that your court system is
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no good, — told you that your court system is no good, and you have to change her decision _ no good, and you have to change her decision i_ no good, and you have to change her decision. i have a right to be angry about— decision. i have a right to be angry about any— decision. i have a right to be angry about any decision in the court system — about any decision in the court system from i have a right to protest. _ system from i have a right to protest, have a right to call it unfair— protest, have a right to call it unfair and _ protest, have a right to call it unfair and have protest, have a right to call it unfairand have an protest, have a right to call it unfair and have an opinion, i don't have _ unfair and have an opinion, i don't have the _ unfair and have an opinion, i don't have the right to cause unrest in cities, _ have the right to cause unrest in cities, and — have the right to cause unrest in cities, and they don't have the right— cities, and they don't have the right to — cities, and they don't have the right to attack the united kingdom if i disagree with the court decision _ if i disagree with the court decision. israel is a real country with— decision. israel is a real country with a _ decision. israel is a real country with a reat— decision. israel is a real country with a real court system. gk, decision. israel is a real country with a real court system. 0k, jason thank ou with a real court system. 0k, jason thank you very _ with a real court system. 0k, jason thank you very much _ with a real court system. 0k, jason thank you very much for _ with a real court system. 0k, jason thank you very much forjoining - with a real court system. 0k, jason thank you very much forjoining us. j thank you very much forjoining us. as jason said, we hope that all of those on our team who are in israel at the moment are staying safe. for those of you watching on bbc world news, we will be right back. the prime minister has announced a full independent public inquiry into the government's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. borisjohnson said it would start next spring and would put the state's actions "under the microscope" as our political correspondent jonathan blake explained.
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amid such tragedy, the state has an obligation to examine its actions as candidly as possible, and to learn every lesson for the future. this is why i have always said that when the time is right, there should be a full and independent inquiry. this inquiry will only work if it has the — this inquiry will only work if it has the support and confidence of the families. and i urge the permits are in— the families. and i urge the permits are in the _ the families. and i urge the permits are in the government to consult the families— are in the government to consult the families of— are in the government to consult the families of the earliest possible moment~ — families of the earliest possible moment. the government should also consult _ moment. the government should also consult those on the front line who have done — consult those on the front line who have done so much, whether in the nhs, _ have done so much, whether in the nhs, social— have done so much, whether in the nhs, social care or other front tines _ nhs, social care or other front tines that— nhs, social care or other front lines that we have seen because they till lines that we have seen because they titt deserve _ lines that we have seen because they till deserve answers to the very many— till deserve answers to the very many questions that they have, and they have _ many questions that they have, and they have done so much in this pandemic _ we've been covering the hacked colonial pipeline which supplies most of the eastern states here in the us over the last few days — now fuel prices are rising and drivers are being asked not to hoard fuel supplies. it could be potentially weeks before
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the pipeline is fully restored. the energy secretary said there was not a shortage but a supply "crunch" in the states that typically rely on the colonialforfuel. and if you can fill up — you're paying more — the average price has risen above $3 a gallon for the first time in six years. and in some cases it's double that — this gas station in richmond, virginia is now charging $6.99 a gallon i kind of shrugged at that. do know why? ff? because petrol is so why? y? because petrol is so yesterday. have i told you i've got an electric car? but the other reason is because $6 99 is roughly what we spend already here in the uk on a gallon of fuel. that's our prices, that's normal. ifi if i saw 699 at a petrol station, i would probably slam into the back of the car in front of me because i
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would be so stunned that it was that. i've never seen, would be so stunned that it was that. i've neverseen, may would be so stunned that it was that. i've never seen, may be four, possible once or twice so four, but also there was you know, a great message put out from the us government because people are hoarding fuel in which they said, by the way, guys, be safe, do not put fuel into plastic bags. here is what the us consumer product safety commission felt they needed to put out. do not fill plastic bags with gasoline. yet, some people, right? not so strange. moving on. here in washington, liz cheney is vowing to lead the fight against donald trump's hold over the republican party. which is quite a turn around thatjust this morning, she was the highest—ranked republican woman in congress, and a stalwart of the conservative cause. but her vote to impeach the former president — and her continuing criticism over mr trump's false claims that the election was stolen — has made her persona non grata in the republican ranks. her colleagues voted to strip her of her title, in a closed—door vote. this was her response shortly after.
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i will do everything i can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the oval office _ we have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. we have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the constitution, and i think it's very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the constitution. true to form, former president donald trump hit back with the following statement... liz cheney is a bitter, horrible human being... she has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our country. . i look forward to soon watching her as a paid contributor on cnn or msdnc! cassie smedile is the former deputy communications director at the republican national committee, now chief executive of america rising, a political action committee — she joins us from washington dc.
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great to have you back on the programme. is this good for the republican party to have thrown liz cheney out to be saying there isn't room for you in republican leadership if you believe that the election was won byjoe biden fairly? election was won by joe biden fairl ? ., ., ~ election was won by joe biden fairl ? ., ., ,, ., election was won by joe biden fairl ? ., ., ~' ., , election was won by joe biden fairl ? ., .,~ ., , ., election was won by joe biden fairl ? ., ., , ., ., fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an issue with _ fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an issue with how _ fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an issue with how you _ fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an issue with how you set - fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an issue with how you set that i fairly? yeah, i take a bit of an| issue with how you set that up there — issue with how you set that up there. great to be back with both of you, there. great to be back with both of you. but _ there. great to be back with both of you, but that is not what happened today _ you, but that is not what happened today. what happened today was the republican conference being unified and saying, we need to all be on the same _ and saying, we need to all be on the same page — and saying, we need to all be on the same page. we are the minority stop we're _ same page. we are the minority stop we're trying — same page. we are the minority stop we're trying to get majority, we are trying _ we're trying to get majority, we are trying to— we're trying to get majority, we are trying to put forward our ideas to the merkin people, and we cannot do that if— the merkin people, and we cannot do that if every— the merkin people, and we cannot do that if every time that we go out to take the _ that if every time that we go out to take the microphone, we are distracted by this issue. so we need to have _ distracted by this issue. so we need to have a _ distracted by this issue. so we need to have a unified leadership voice, which _ to have a unified leadership voice, which is _ to have a unified leadership voice, which is the — to have a unified leadership voice, which is the very purpose of having your leaders within your conference or the _ your leaders within your conference or the democratic caucus to be the unified _ or the democratic caucus to be the unified messengers for your party, and that— unified messengers for your party, and that wasn't happening. and i thank— and that wasn't happening. and i thank you — and that wasn't happening. and i thank you saw people who even i
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think— thank you saw people who even i think agree with liz cheney voted the same way she did, and they even have said _ the same way she did, and they even have said it— the same way she did, and they even have said it is time to move on, because — have said it is time to move on, because we _ have said it is time to move on, because we have to move forward, we have to _ because we have to move forward, we have to take _ because we have to move forward, we have to take advantage of these precious — have to take advantage of these precious opportunities to make our case to— precious opportunities to make our case to the — precious opportunities to make our case to the american people, and there _ case to the american people, and there are — case to the american people, and there are some any fires burning on our home _ there are some any fires burning on our home front right now that we cannot— our home front right now that we cannot afford to waste any more time not focusing — cannot afford to waste any more time not focusing on those issues at hand that are _ not focusing on those issues at hand that are so _ not focusing on those issues at hand that are so important to the american _ that are so important to the american people.— that are so important to the american people. that are so important to the american --eole. ., ,, ., .,, , american people. cassie, not casey, forrive american people. cassie, not casey, forgive me- — american people. cassie, not casey, forgive me. cassie, _ american people. cassie, not casey, forgive me. cassie, i— american people. cassie, not casey, forgive me. cassie, i get _ american people. cassie, not casey, forgive me. cassie, i get that, - forgive me. cassie, i get that, especially given the midterms coming up especially given the midterms coming up next year, it is important for the party to have a united front, and to not be talking endlessly about the last election. the problem is that the former president donald trump is constantly relitigating the last election, and it seems unlikely, doesn't it, that he is suddenly going to stop talking about it. so if you have got donald trump talking about it, then why not have liz cheney talking about it as well? you can't see how it will disappear as an issue. you can't see how it will disappear as an issue-— as an issue. every member of congress. _ as an issue. every member of congress. they _ as an issue. every member of congress, they get _ as an issue. every member of congress, they get reelected |
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as an issue. every member of. congress, they get reelected by their— congress, they get reelected by their constituents. they don't get reetected — their constituents. they don't get reelected by the national media they don't get _ reelected by the national media they don't get reelected by the comp votes _ don't get reelected by the comp votes and conference coming to get reetected _ votes and conference coming to get reelected by constituents back home, so those _ reelected by constituents back home, so those of— reelected by constituents back home, so those of the conversations they need _ so those of the conversations they need to— so those of the conversations they need to focus on. those are the voices— need to focus on. those are the voices that _ need to focus on. those are the voices that they need to be listening to. the voices back home are saying — listening to. the voices back home are saying why is my gas going up? wire my— are saying why is my gas going up? wire my grocery bills going up? right _ wire my grocery bills going up? right is — wire my grocery bills going up? right is our border in crisis mode? why is— right is our border in crisis mode? why is there — right is our border in crisis mode? why is there unrest in the middle east again? what are we doing about a? right— east again? what are we doing about a? right now, you have got a white house _ a? right now, you have got a white house and — a? right now, you have got a white house and a — a? right now, you have got a white house and a democrat majority that is allowing _ house and a democrat majority that is allowing all these fires to burn insane, — is allowing all these fires to burn insane, oh. _ is allowing all these fires to burn insane, oh, by the way, give us trittions— insane, oh, by the way, give us trillions of— insane, oh, by the way, give us trillions of dollars in your hard—earned money to pay for all of our ideas _ hard—earned money to pay for all of our ideas and all of our socialist spending — our ideas and all of our socialist spending instead of actually taking care of— spending instead of actually taking care of the issues at hand, so those are the _ care of the issues at hand, so those are the reat— care of the issues at hand, so those are the real opportunities of the republican party has right now to show _ republican party has right now to show the — republican party has right now to show the american people that they are the _ show the american people that they are the ones fighting for them. now if you _ are the ones fighting for them. now if you want— are the ones fighting for them. now if you want to talk about the former president. — if you want to talk about the former president, there is an argument to be made _ president, there is an argument to be made about the successes of the last four— be made about the successes of the last four years. and if you are going. — last four years. and if you are going, talking to your constituency resting, _ going, talking to your constituency resting, did you like your 401(k) for the _ resting, did you like your 401(k) for the last four years? did you like the — for the last four years? did you
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like the prices that the grocery store _ like the prices that the grocery store and _ like the prices that the grocery store and at the pump for the last four years? — store and at the pump for the last fouryears? did store and at the pump for the last four years? did you like the opportunities to take about job over the tast— opportunities to take about job over the last four years 's that's what the last four years 's that's what the republican party stands for. that's _ the republican party stands for. that's what we can do if you give us the opportunity to resume the majority— the opportunity to resume the majority in washington. so again, all potitics — majority in washington. so again, all politics are local, and i think that's— all politics are local, and i think that's especially true in this case. i would take issue with what you said about the most important issue. liz cheney said yesterday the most conservative of conservative proposal —— principles as our reference for the rule of law, the rule of law starts first and foremost with respecting an election. absolutely. and i think that you've -ot absolutely. and i think that you've got any— absolutely. and i think that you've got any number of representatives who are _ got any number of representatives who are trying to get reelected. you want to— who are trying to get reelected. you want to talk— who are trying to get reelected. you want to talk about the rule of law, its lawlessness at our border right now _ its lawlessness at our border right now that — its lawlessness at our border right now. that is a local issue for so many _ now. that is a local issue for so many americans who are saying what is happening on the national security— is happening on the national security front? what is happening is that health — security front? what is happening is that health crisis, what is happening in our local communities, the economic impact that is having. so that— the economic impact that is having. so that also—
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the economic impact that is having. so that also isn't being upheld. again, — so that also isn't being upheld. again, this might be the news of this moment, or of even the segments, but it is not the conversation... but _ conversation... but how can you be the party of law and order if you are ignoring the central tenants of a democracy, which is the peaceful transfer of power? which is the peaceful transfer of ower? ~ ., , ., which is the peaceful transfer of ower? ., , ., ., , power? who is doing that? present biden. .. biden... he - biden... he was impeached! he span... — he was impeached! he was impeached for inciting an insurrection on the capital. but... it was... president biden was in office _ but... it was... president biden was in office. people are moving forward _ in office. people are moving forward. we're trying to have boats, we are _ forward. we're trying to have boats, we are trying to put good policy positions, — we are trying to put good policy positions, and yet, now, you have -ot positions, and yet, now, you have got the _ positions, and yet, now, you have got the elected president of the united — got the elected president of the united states, joe biden and his administration and the democrats putting _ administration and the democrats putting forward trillions of dollars in spending and saying i know we still haven't reopened your schools, i still haven't reopened your schools, i know _ still haven't reopened your schools, i know we _ still haven't reopened your schools, i know we are still not letting all of your— i know we are still not letting all of your restaurants reopen, but please — of your restaurants reopen, but please give us more of the hard—earned money to pay for all of our sociatist — hard—earned money to pay for all of our socialist agenda. that is the focus _ our socialist agenda. that is the focus right— our socialist agenda. that is the focus right now it people's kitchen tabtes _ focus right now it people's kitchen tables. they are saying how much more _ tables. they are saying how much more of— tables. they are saying how much more of my— tables. they are saying how much more of my money can i possibly give
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up? i_ more of my money can i possibly give up? i am _ more of my money can i possibly give up? i am totally strapped and i am stressed — up? i am totally strapped and i am stressed i— up? i am totally strapped and i am stressed. i am up? i am totally strapped and i am stressed. lam not up? i am totally strapped and i am stressed. i am not seeing any help from _ stressed. i am not seeing any help from the _ stressed. i am not seeing any help from the elected leaders.- from the elected leaders. cassie, alwa s a from the elected leaders. cassie, always a pleasure _ from the elected leaders. cassie, always a pleasure to _ from the elected leaders. cassie, always a pleasure to have - from the elected leaders. cassie, always a pleasure to have one, i always a pleasure to have one, please come back again. thank you. if you were to step into picadilly circus�*s london underground station today — you might notice that something looks different. the tube stop's iconic station signs have had a makeover. from the ipad of the renowned british artist david hockney. the project is part of the let's do london campaign commissioned to encourage tourists to return to the city's landmarks. it's quirky, isn't it? lots of people commenting on social media. lots of people having a go themselves — drawing their own station signs. so in that same spirit we were asked today to have a go at re—designing the bbc logo on an ipad, which we have both had a go at. so, come on, fraser, you show me yours, i'll show you mine. yeah, ok, so here's my problem, i am doing mine on a finger on a trackpad, full disclosure, this was not hazy come i want the graphics department to clean this up.
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look at that, what a master of the colour pallets. the texture of bbc. you even cited! i did. hello there. the kind of weather we've had today and yesterday and over the last few days is the kind of weather we're going to continue to see over the next few days. the rest of the week will bring further heavy downpours, but some spells of warm sunshine in between. and it is all because of low pressure still sitting overhead providing those showers or even longer spells of rain at times. this little frontal system here is providing some more persistent rain across some southern parts of the uk as we head through this evening and tonight, especially across the west country, into parts of south east wales, the south west midlands. could see some outbreaks of rain developing across the south east of england as well. quite a lot of cloud across the northern half of scotland, but elsewhere for northern ireland, southern scotland, northern and eastern parts of england, we'll have clear skies. in one or two places, it'll get a little bit chilly.
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the vast majority will avoid a frost. and then into tomorrow, we start off with cloud and outbreaks of showery rain across southern england and the south of wales. a lot of that will tend to break up into a mix of sunshine and showers. and elsewhere, after a fine, dry start, you can see those showers getting going through the late morning into the afternoon. some heavy with some hail and some thunder. in most places, temperatures up to 14, 15 or 16 degrees, although it will be a little cooler for some of these northern and eastern coastal areas as more cloud rolls its way in. now, for friday, we will find ourselves between weather systems — low pressure to the east, low pressure to the west — but in between, we're in something of a no man's land. we start to see a northerly wind trying to establish itself. it's not going to have much luck. it's not going to bring a big cold arctic blast or anything like that, but it will bring a chillier feel to northern and eastern areas of the uk as we head through friday. and quite a lot of cloud here as well, whereas for the south west of england, wales and northern ireland, once again it's a mix of sunny spells and heavy, thundery showers.
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temperatures for most up to 14—15, but where you're in that northerly flow, maybe just ten for aberdeen, 11 for newcastle. and then through the weekend, a band of rain will sweep its way eastwards through friday night into saturday. and then low pressure will assert itself once again, and that means the sunshine and showers theme will continue. now, the showers will be quite well scattered. some places will avoid them, others will see quite a few. some of them will be heavy with some and thunder mixing in, but in between the showers, there'll be some spells of sunshine. and in that sunshine, it'll feel fairly warm.
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you re watching bbc news with me katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. our top stories. there are fears of a full scale war as violence between palestianian militants and the israeli military escalates. president biden brings together democrat and repbulican leaders to push for agreement on massive post covid spending. also in the programme. that should be have been better prepared for the coronavirus pandemic? tackling that and his new book. a tale of our times — how the persuit of new instagram followers led to one woman's arrest
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for the past week, the repubican party has been consumed with the ouster of liz cheney as conference chair. it's been distracting the party from real business — namely, joe biden's four trillion dollar spending plan that promises to revolutionise america's infrastructure. the white house calls it a �*once in a generation investment�*. the republicans have labelled it a �*grab bag of tax increases and spending". as i so today the republicans have a chance to get back to their agenda and to press the president on his commitment to bipartisan negotiation. at the white housejoe biden sat down with the gang of four, nancy pelosi, kevin mccarthy, mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. the purpose of the meeting, said senior officials was to explore whether there is any �*common ground'. here was the president speaking shortly after the meeting. isaidi i said i was not going to be a democratic president, i'm going to
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be a president for all americans. but the bottom line is, we can see where we can reach some consensus or compromise and we're going to talk a lot about infrastructure today. we will see if there's any way we can reach a compromise that gets work done and within the bounds of everyone. madeleine dean is a democratic congresswoman for pennsylvania, shejoins us from washington good to have you with us. thank you for being on the programme. let's start with liz cheney because you took such a prominent role in the impeachment, i would to see a very little in common with her and she is a very conservative attitude. but on this issue, i would imagine you stand shoulder to shoulder. in this issue, i would imagine you stand shoulder to shoulder. in fact, as they walked _ stand shoulder to shoulder. in fact, as they walked to _ stand shoulder to shoulder. in fact, as they walked to vote _ stand shoulder to shoulder. in fact, as they walked to vote not - stand shoulder to shoulder. in fact, as they walked to vote not 20 - as they walked to vote not 20 minutes ago. i was right with her and i commended her on her bravery and i commended her on her bravery and honesty. while we have a lot of policy differences, there's one
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thing we have in common that is much more powerful and that is in association with the truth. and standing up for the truth and for integrity and democracy. i could not be prouder of what liz cheney has done. , , , , ~ done. the business in the white house today- — done. the business in the white house today. the _ done. the business in the white house today. the gang - done. the business in the white house today. the gang of- done. the business in the white house today. the gang of four l done. the business in the white l house today. the gang of four are done. the business in the white - house today. the gang of four are in there. officials say to try and find areas of mutual agreement. is there any? i areas of mutual agreement. is there an ? , , ~ areas of mutual agreement. is there an ? , , . ., ., any? i believe there is. we all want to invest in — any? i believe there is. we all want to invest in our _ any? i believe there is. we all want to invest in our infrastructure - any? i believe there is. we all want to invest in our infrastructure and i to invest in our infrastructure and crowjobs in this country. so i hope the republican party can find its way and invest in ourfamilies. i know that right now in pennsylvania, my former colleagues in the pennsylvania house are going around the state bragging about the tremendous investment from the american rescue plan. but the same legislators are desperately hoping that we find our way to yes on infrastructure. i hope mccarthy can
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sum up support from his conference but you do see a conference in convulsions with the self, with an inability to tell the truth except when leaders like liz cheney standup. when leaders like liz cheney standu -. ~ when leaders like liz cheney standu. a ., , when leaders like liz cheney standu.~ a ., , standup. when kevin mccarthy came out the white _ standup. when kevin mccarthy came out the white house _ standup. when kevin mccarthy came out the white house today, - standup. when kevin mccarthy came out the white house today, he - standup. when kevin mccarthy came out the white house today, he was l out the white house today, he was talked about the election and interestingly, the legitimacy of the last election is not in doubt. we are in the white house with the president and implying that it was run byjoe biden fair and square. do you think now the republican party is going to be able to draw a line under that whole issue in move on to focus on issues like infrastructure build? i focus on issues like infrastructure build? , , , build? i wish i could say yes, but i do not build? i wish i could say yes, but i do rrot see — build? i wish i could say yes, but i do not see that, _ build? i wish i could say yes, but i do not see that, certainly - build? i wish i could say yes, but i do not see that, certainly not - build? i wish i could say yes, but i do not see that, certainly not my. do not see that, certainly not my interactions with them on the floor of the house. unfortunately, mccarthy speaks out of both sides of his mouth. at one point the president was responsible for the insurrection and the violence that descended upon the capital on
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january the 6th, on the next point, he supported the big lie. i hope they stick with telling their constituents, telling the american public that of course the election was one fairly and squarely and by the new administration, because the american people desperately need the truth and they need to undo the terrible seeds that were sown by the former president and his attorney general and by many of them that somehow the election was stolen. mr mccarthy needs to see that loudly and clearly over and over again without hesitation. me and clearly over and over again without hesitation.— and clearly over and over again without hesitation. me go back to our without hesitation. me go back to your district _ without hesitation. me go back to your district in _ without hesitation. me go back to your district in pennsylvania, - without hesitation. me go back to your district in pennsylvania, how much do people talk to you about the events of january the 6th about the insurrection on capitol hill michelle amaya constituents have been so kind. they've reached out to me many times even if i'm just walking into a store, they say to me how are you. we are worried about you more proud of you. but we are
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worried about you. some even hesitate to ask me. find worried about you. some even hesitate to ask me.— worried about you. some even hesitate to ask me. and say, we don't want _ hesitate to ask me. and say, we don't want to — hesitate to ask me. and say, we don't want to bring _ hesitate to ask me. and say, we don't want to bring up _ hesitate to ask me. and say, we don't want to bring up those - don't want to bring up those incredibly difficult memories. but to a person, republicans and democrats at that i've had the chance to interact with in these intervening months have been nothing but compassionate and shocked and attacked by americans incited by the former president on the very seat of our democracy. former president on the very seat of our democracy-— our democracy. clearly, the president — our democracy. clearly, the president must _ our democracy. clearly, the president must be - our democracy. clearly, the president must be caught i our democracy. clearly, the - president must be caught trying to win over republicans and when republican votes. it's suits them politically. but if he does not get some progress in the coming weeks, it strikes me that the progressive voices in your party, the likes of which of bernie's we re were above point we have to call it and force this through congress? he is and force this through congress? he: is been very clear in very bold in his proposals and of his strategy.
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yes, of course we should go as far as we can to exhaust diplomacy and bipartisanship in meeting today, it was a very important part of that conversation. but at some point, the president as he has told us, he is not going to let the big lie and capable members of the republican party block progress for the american people. i have to tell you that i am surprised that the republicans would not say yes. this is something we need to be a part of. infrastructure investment, jobs investment, investment in our families is something that we want to be a part of. but we do see that the president will speak bipartisanship and talk to those with more experience and isjoined by the vice president harris and i think at some point, we will have to move. when i going to wait all year we'd all session for the american people in the investment now. thank
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ou for people in the investment now. thank you for having _ people in the investment now. thank you for having me. _ looking at the home state of wyoming. in the state of wyoming republicans outnumber democrats by more than 3—1. it is a sparcely populated, deeply conservative state, and in the upcoming primary season, its about to stage a battle royal for the heart and soul of the republican party. it's liz cheney's state. she has real pedigree there. cheney is a name once revered in republican circles, and she has a very conservative voting record, better than many. but she will not swear fealty to donald trump and he is doing everything possible to exact revenge. his candidate to replace her is chuck grey who joins us from casper, wyoming. let's start with the obvious question. do you believe the election was stolen? filth. question. do you believe the election was stolen? 0h, absolutely. absolutel , election was stolen? 0h, absolutely. absolutely. yes- _ election was stolen? 0h, absolutely. absolutely, yes. and _ election was stolen? 0h, absolutely. absolutely, yes. and where's - election was stolen? 0h, absolutely. absolutely, yes. and where's the - absolutely, yes. and where's the evidence for _ absolutely, yes. and where's the evidence for that? _ absolutely, yes. and where's the evidence for that? there - absolutely, yes. and where's the evidence for that? there is - absolutely, yes. and where's the evidence for that? there is so - absolutely, yes. and where's the i evidence for that? there is so much evidence for that? there is so much evidence and _ evidence for that? there is so much evidence and the _ evidence for that? there is so much evidence and the fake _ evidence for that? there is so much evidence and the fake news - evidence for that? there is so much evidence and the fake news that - evidence and the fake news that refuses to really look at this, even they are just delusional for their hatred for trump arejust
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they are just delusional for their hatred for trump are just lazy. and i think it's a combination of the two. ~ ,., , ., two. when we report findings from the trump appointed _ two. when we report findings from the trump appointed fbi _ two. when we report findings from the trump appointed fbi director l two. when we report findings from | the trump appointed fbi director or the trump appointed fbi director or the attorney general or the trump appointed judges in the courts, or the trump appointed election overseer, none of them. voter id laws across _ overseer, none of them. voter id laws across our — overseer, none of them. voter id laws across our country _ overseer, none of them. voter id laws across our country which - overseer, none of them. voter id. laws across our country which have over 90% support, 90% support from americans, the left refuses to allow these to go through every single state. and they want to pass a law, hr one and congress which i would work to stop, to undo every single voter id law in our country. i passed on in a lead sponsor here in wyoming, isn't that more revealing than anything you just said, the fact that our voter laws are not first or corrected. and the fact that a simple thing like a voter id law is somehow controversial for the
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democratic party when even democratic party when even democratic voters wanted was only progressive activists... democratic voters wanted was only progressive activists. . ._ progressive activists... chuck, you would not agree _ progressive activists... chuck, you would not agree then _ progressive activists... chuck, you would not agree then with - progressive activists... chuck, you i would not agree then with republican leader kevin mccarthy, who has just said in the past hour that he does not think anyone is questioning the legitimacy of the us presidential election? i am quoting him there. you don't agree with mr mccarthy? you don't agree with mr mccarthy? you are questioning him? i you don't agree with mr mccarthy? you are questioning him?— you are questioning him? i think republican _ you are questioning him? i think republican members _ you are questioning him? i think republican members in - you are questioning him? i think republican members in this - you are questioning him? i think- republican members in this meeting finally did what wyoming wanted to do for so long, which is to get rid of liz cheney, by expelling her from leadership. i of liz cheney, by expelling her from leadershi -. ., ., ,~ of liz cheney, by expelling her from leadershi. . . , ., leadership. i am asking you specifically _ leadership. i am asking you specifically whether - leadership. i am asking you specifically whether or - leadership. i am asking you specifically whether or not l leadership. i am asking you i specifically whether or not you agree with kevin mccarthy that no one is questioning the legitimacy of this? ., , ., ., ., this? you see from the vote today, finall , this? you see from the vote today, finally, republican _ this? you see from the vote today, finally, republican members- this? you see from the vote today, finally, republican members of- finally, republican members of congress are doing what wyoming also wanted to do which is get rid of liz
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cheney and make sure that her party does not sell out to socialist democrats the way liz cheney has. what issues, let's move on from the election. what issues are you more conservative than this cheney on? well, our industries and wyoming are under attack across the board. they don't want us to have access to markets for call, i worked a lot on than the legislature. in interstate commerce clause violation for west coast states, washington state, oregon, california, to block our call, for nothing every access, the closure of domestic coal power plants which are in domestic demand, all driven by this fake left—wing climate change narrative, our oil and gas is under attack with this moratorium from the biden administration, over50% moratorium from the biden administration, over 50% of our oil production is on federal land, so
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over 80% of our gas production and there is a moratorium that biden put in place at the start of the administration that prevents us from having new leases on federal land. so, if we are not likely to reach our full potential death commerce in our full potential death commerce in our state and for our children, our grandchildren our own generation, to reach ourfull potential grandchildren our own generation, to reach our full potential and it is offensive and all this cheney does is put out a bunch of press releases. to is put out a bunch of press releases-— is put out a bunch of press releases. ., , , ., releases. to say she is a sell-out to social democrats, _ releases. to say she is a sell-out to social democrats, she - releases. to say she is a sell-out to social democrats, she was i releases. to say she is a sell-outl to social democrats, she was with dawn from 90% of the time. her replacement and on. the heritage action, which is the conservative group the looks of voting records gives her a lifetime voting record of 80%. her replacement, her replacement gets 48%. she is the most conservative of conservatives. the american conservative union and sea practice put out a rating of all
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the candidates in the race and i rated highest in the congressional race for my conservative record and the slate dating state legislature. the left—wing narrative, the inside and left—wing narrative, the inside and left—wing narrative, but this is, it is a coalition and i have seen a time and time again in politics. the radical left, the democratic party and insiders in this cheney is a part of that she was the first one in line to eat of this impeachment narrative and to vote for it and it has been used against conservatives across our country, time and time again it needs to stop. our country, time and time again it needs to stop-— needs to stop. chuck grey, interesting, _ needs to stop. chuck grey, interesting, thank - needs to stop. chuck grey, interesting, thank you i needs to stop. chuck grey, j interesting, thank you very needs to stop. chuck grey, i interesting, thank you very much needs to stop. chuck grey, - interesting, thank you very much for joining us and we'll watch that wyoming primary on bbc. interesting that he does not agree with kevin mccarthy saying that the election was not in dispute. what is really interesting about wyoming is that
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you can vote, you can change your allegiance on the day of voting, you can become a republican and what you're saying is even though it is three to one republican to democrats in wyoming, there a lot of independence that changed on the day. so although the odds are stacked against her, she is still in with a fighting chance. as we enter a new stage of the pandemic and reflect on the chaos, there is one question that keeps coming up. cut the devastation of been avoided? could the devastation have been avoided? were the millions of global deaths the only possible outcome, or is there a way world leaders and health systems might have might make many systems were not put in place to detect the virus in the first landed. the story of the
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the who is pretty scathing about this crisis. what about the states? could we have avoided the hundreds of thousands of deaths that we had? well, yes, many of them. it is an open question as to whether or not we could've contained it the way australia has contained it. but we did not even try. by the time the cdc stood up at the end of february and said this is a real problem in the country, it was already disease transmission and it was too late. and the question is, once you have contained it, what is possible? if you just read the story of characters, the characters who tried to mitigate the virus and see the obstacles they face, you cannot help feel that there was a much better outcome at hand. like nike of taking characters that were not at the top of the food chain and thinking of
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charity dean, the deputy of public health officials in california. did she ever have a chance of having her voice heard early enough, high enough at a high enough level in order to implement what she knew needed to be done close people think it was inevitable, after the fact that they saw a story of how it was inevitable. but she was not listen to it to the end of march and people from outside the state government found her in the bowels of the state government and as they say, put everything that was in there on her desk when they shut on the state. but she was talking about something that needed to be donein about something that needed to be done in mid—january. so, you're right, the tone of your question, the cynical tone of your question is not unfounded, yes, it would've been difficult to pull off the leadership
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required to get in front of it, but not impossible. it happened in other countries. ourformer prime countries. our former prime minister. countries. our former prime minister-— countries. our former prime minister. ., , ., . ., minister. he wants a cloud -based s stem, minister. he wants a cloud -based system. globally. _ minister. he wants a cloud -based system, globally, so _ minister. he wants a cloud -based system, globally, so that - minister. he wants a cloud -based system, globally, so that we i minister. he wants a cloud -based system, globally, so that we can l system, globally, so that we can track the progression of the variance which is good in theory but we have talked on her show this week about the system over there in the united states which you just talked about, that is not networked nationally. there is no record of tracking and tracing variance nationally at a federal level. so, for everything we have experienced in everything we've learned, or be better prepared today for even this pandemic? ho. better prepared today for even this andemic? ., , ., , ., ,, pandemic? no. only in that mistake that we have — pandemic? no. only in that mistake that we have just _ pandemic? no. only in that mistake that we have just made. _ pandemic? no. only in that mistake that we have just made. we - pandemic? no. only in that mistake| that we have just made. we respond that we havejust made. we respond differently, quickly, and have recreated some system that didn't happen before a variant runs the vaccine? no. but the amazing thing
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is we have the technology. the technology is sequencing the genomes of every virus that we find and sing is there if —— seeing if there is a variant. we are doing it but only in trivial amounts. variant. we are doing it but only in trivialamounts. i variant. we are doing it but only in trivial amounts. i think everyone understands that it was a mistake now and i do think that, i don't believe that if we had a whole new pandemic now, we would respond as stupidly as wejust pandemic now, we would respond as stupidly as we just did. when i worry about is amnesia. once this thing passes, that we don't go about sitting, this is really a global defence system that is needed and a system of global tripwires, so the minute something emerges and jumps from an animal into a person, you know. and you can contain it. the book is the _ know. and you can contain it. the book is the premonition. please stay with us. going viral in lockdown.
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lesliejordan with us. going viral in lockdown. leslie jordan has found a with us. going viral in lockdown. lesliejordan has found a whole new life and new fame on instagram post at the time. downing street since borisjohnson has apologised unreservedly on behalf of the uk government for the events that took place in west belfast in 1971. ten people were killed in the wake of an operation by the british army. yesterday, the families of those who died in a year fight to clear their names when a coroner ruled they had entirely innocent. here's our island course pardoned. those verdicts yesterday, all of those findings provided a huge sense of vindication for the families of the victims here. it was a big moment for northern ireland, the loved ones names were cleared and the coroner found that in many cases, the soldiers used disproportionate force and almost
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immediately after that moment yesterday, there were calls for an official apology and sinn fein said that they were pressing the prime minister to say sorry. we saw is this virtual meeting between the first and deputy first minister of northern ireland in borisjohnson and we get a from downing street as and we get a from downing street as a result of these conversations, a summary of what was said and in that, we're told the prime minister did apologise and the readout says he apologised unreservedly for the event that took place in the huge anguish in the lengthy pursuit of truth is because families of those killed, and there has been underwhelming response to that in northern ireland and the reaction to families of the victims would rather have an apology more directly to them rather than in a private phone call with political leaders and certainly don't see them as an apology. we also get the same sins from sinn fein that they do not see this as an official apology as such
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and such was the skill of the tragedy and the conclusive findings of the coroner yesterday that the victims were wholly innocent and you can expect there to be many more because you're northern ireland for borisjohnson to go much further. the emmy award—winning actor and american horror story. over the last few years, leslie jordan american horror story. over the last few years, lesliejordan has become a viral sensation as well. the southern charm, razor sharp wit has helped many get through the pandemic. all of his exploits from his colourful life and a little early, he dropped in to tell us all about it. i have spent most of 2020 walking my dog, you have spent most of 20/20 becoming an instagram sensation. what is the secret? i
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have no earthly idea. give me a good pandemic and ijust have no earthly idea. give me a good pandemic and i just flourished. have no earthly idea. give me a good pandemic and ijust flourished. i’m pandemic and i 'ust flourished. i'm not ruite sure how it happened. i was in tennessee with my mum and fairly new to instagram and i thought that was amazing. and then, the person i worked with on will and grace, reposted one of my posts and i got a thousand followers and then, all of a sudden, someone called me and said mrjordan, you have gone viral and i said no, i don't have coronavirus. no, internet viral, she told me. i had a million followers of the end of the week and now it's up to 6 million. who knows, i'm just a marketing genius without even knowing. not even knowing i'm doing. i don't go anywhere near politics, i
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don't go anywhere near religion. i don't go anywhere near religion. i don't sell anybody anything and i do have a lovely handle for safety. you've written a book and then you put out a record, i mean you are marketing genius. dolly parton on this album, how did you get the men? well, i was in nashville and i've always wanted to meet parton and i put that out there and people said, we can make that possible. she's fairly accessible and so it happened on a rainy wednesday, we are both in a studio near each other and i got to go meet dolly parton and we sat down and we were masked and we were socially distanced, but we could barely keep her hands off each other. she, people ask what she is like. she is dolly parton. and i'm
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thinking of going be doing an album of old hymns that said i'm not even a singer but i've been doing this sunday him singing with a friend of mine and wejust sunday him singing with a friend of mine and we just sing, sunday him singing with a friend of mine and wejust sing, we do not sing well at all. you just sing for the lord. sing loud as you can. you're notjust a marketing genius you're clearly a booking genius, i'm going to let everyone in on a secret disclosure which is that he does not even have instagram, i don't even think he knows we were talking about. i looked to see some of the posts and i thought, that's nice. whatever. and then after about 20 minutes, i'll still looking at your posts. i was hooked, minutes, i'll still looking at your posts. iwas hooked, i minutes, i'll still looking at your posts. i was hooked, i was flicking through all of these funny posts that you do. i have become a leslie jordan addict. that you do. i have become a leslie jordan addict-— that you do. i have become a leslie jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing _ jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing two _ jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing two posts - jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing two posts a - jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing two posts a day i jordan addict. well, you know, back then i was doing two posts a day for around 80 days and i didn't even
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know with the word content men. i wake up in the morning and i think all my gosh, i haven't posted in three days, i need content. i do three days, i need content. i do that every _ three days, i need content. i do that every morning _ three days, i need content. i do that every morning as _ three days, i need content. i do that every morning as well. about this programme. know what that voice. if you did it with that voice, will be fined. how far would you actually go to get more fans on instagram. clearly not very far at all for christian. but there are people buying more followers, some people buying more followers, some people follow en masse thinking they get the favour returned. one woman in florida to get to a whole new level. they snuck into a high school and handed out flyers directing students to your social media handle. the trouble is, she is not a student at that school because she's 28 years old. but very keen to harvest as many new followers as she can. and suddenly, she is a viral sensation because, she is under arrest, charged with trespassing. that's one way to get followers that
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we do not recommend on this programme. we will see you tomorrow. hello there. our long—range weather outlook brings a continuation of these rather mixed and changeable somewhat fickle conditions trenching downpours one minute, warm sunshine the next, it is certainly the case of the rest of this week, but also in the next week. the jet stream is well to the south of the uk. if we wanted a settled spell of weather and dry weather, will take the jet stream it will push it northwards. as it is, thejet running down to the south is a long low pressure to dominate the scene. various areas of low pressure with showers getting back through the day, thursday will have some more persistent ran across parts of southern england and wales.
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us were afterwards, you will see those showers going and some heavy with hail and thunder mixing in and in eastern scotland and on the northeast coast of england here, we'll see more in the way of clouding quite a chilly field to the weather as well. in the cloud is going to continue to roll its way down from the north in many places actually will be quite cool by friday morning. and some of these posts as well, with the cloud in place, it's not going to be a cold start to friday morning. on friday, we will find ourselves in a bit of a no man's land between weather systems one low to the east and one towards the west. northerly wind attempting to take hold but i do not think he would make in a flood of progress but i think it will bring more slightly colder weather to its north and eastern areas with a lot of cloud as well. sunnier skies in the southwest of england, and with that sunshine again, placebos have to showers going but with that northerly wind just 10 degrees, it will be around 11 from newcastle. at
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the northerly flow won't last very long because the weather starts to come in from the atlantic into the weekend and the band of rain pushing its way northeast to friday night and on into saturday and behind that, you guessed it. we'll be back to sunny spells and showers needed to sunny spells and showers needed to the dark blue and green colours and green showers indicating some heavy and potentially foundry downpours. temperatures possibly a little down on where they have been for some and 11 to 14 degrees but still warm when you get any spells of sunshine. for sunday, once again, sunny spells, heavy downpours of thunderstorms breaking out in heights between 12 and 15 degrees. as we head into the start of the new working week, a low pressure, once again is in control of this area of low pressure likely to be sifting right on top of the british isles on monday, that will allow the air to be very unstable, big shark clouds coming once again with hail and thunder mixing in. there will be quite a few showers around on monday
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but still feeling relatively warm if you get any lengthy spells of sunshine. now, as we head through the week, there is a subtle change, the week, there is a subtle change, the jet stream to the south of us yes, but noticed the way it is dipping southwards and northwards. but we get these northward extensions of the jet stream, that is where high—pressure is going to temporarily try to build in. we do not think the high—pressure will really settle things down, but as these little transient riches of high—pressure work through, that could mean fewer showers and some slightly drier air. it will be a subtle change next week, more heavy showers and warm sunshine in between but potentially some drier interludes. that is all for me. goodbye.
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tonight at ten — fears grow that the deadly violence between israel and palestinians could escalate into all—out war. "this is the just the beginning," says israel's prime minister, as his military destorys another tower block in gaza. translation: what should i say? this was a crime. they were civilians. a woman, her children, a barber and a shop owner. they didn't hit a militant nor an official. we are civilians sleeping in our homes. a barrage of rockets are fired from gaza into israel — mostly at tel aviv.

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