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welcome to heart talk and today i am on the shores of italy's lake como at an annual opportunity for politicians on both sides of the atlantic to gather and talk geopolitics. and this year there is one
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dominant issue, the us led pull—out from afghanistan. now that it pull—out from afghanistan. now thatitis pull—out from afghanistan. now that it is done, how does america see itself? and its global role? well, my guess is an influential american lindsey graham, a close confidant of donald trump. is america first now a bipartisan consensus? senator lindsey graham, welcome. america is sacrificing no more blood and treasure in afghanistan, isn't that a source of profound relief to the american people? ma. source of profound relief to the american people? no. i think most _ the american people? no. i think most americans - the american people? no. i think most americans are l the american people? no. i - think most americans are upset that we left our afghan allies behind and i think most
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americans are upset that we left american citizens behind enemy lines and a lot of americans wanted to wash their hands of afghanistan. it has been 20 years.— hands of afghanistan. it has been 20 years. that is what the olls been 20 years. that is what the polls say. _ been 20 years. that is what the polls say. the — been 20 years. that is what the polls say, the american - been 20 years. that is what the polls say, the american public. polls say, the american public had had enough. but polls say, the american public had had enough.— polls say, the american public had had enough. but not now. if ou had had enough. but not now. if you asked _ had had enough. but not now. if you asked them _ had had enough. but not now. if you asked them if _ had had enough. but not now. if you asked them if they - had had enough. but not now. if you asked them if they were - you asked them if they were worried the majority said we should not have left. democracies have always been schizophrenic about this. if you talk about making afghanistan a democracy there is not a whole lot of support. if you talk about having some of our troops over there so that radical is the moment hit as at home, there is support. the problem with people in the business is that we have never talked to the american people about why it matters about afghanistan. everyone remembers 9/11, it is a week away. but we never made a case of an indirect presence. the likelihood of people helping us in the future against radical islam has gone down. the likelihood of al-qaeda and isis hate hitting us again has gone up. hate hitting us again has gone u . _ , hate hitting us again has gone u, , ., ~' hate hitting us again has gone up. lets talk about the politics _ up. lets talk about the politics of _
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up. lets talk about the politics of this. - up. lets talk about the politics of this. just - up. lets talk about the politics of this. just a l up. lets talk about the i politics of this. just a few days ago you made an extraordinary statement and said presidentjoe biden should face impeachment for what he has done. it face impeachment for what he has done-— has done. it should be on the table, ithink. _ has done. it should be on the table, ithink. how— has done. it should be on the table, i think. how can - has done. it should be on the table, i think. how can you i has done. it should be on the | table, i think. how can you say that when _ table, i think. how can you say that when the _ table, i think. how can you say that when the root _ table, i think. how can you say that when the root of - table, i think. how can you say that when the root of the - that when the root of the decision to get out of afghanistan was clearly ceded by president donald trump? he was the one, back in february 2020, who did the deal with the taliban, released thousands of taliban, released thousands of taliban fighter business and he was the one who put that deadline on the table. welcomer the deal was _ deadline on the table. welcomer the deal was as _ deadline on the table. welcomer the deal was as follows: - the deal was as follows: conditions based. if the taliban worked in good faith with the afghan government from an inclusive government under the constitution of afghanistan and they did not try to take the country over militarily we were going to leave at the beginning of next year. neither one of those conditions were accepted or followed but he was what i would say. they changed every other camp policy, because they have the right to
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do so if they wanted to.- do so if they wanted to. came on a minute. _ do so if they wanted to. came on a minute. you _ do so if they wanted to. came on a minute. you matter. - do so if they wanted to. came on a minute. you matter. you are one of donald trump's closest confidant. are you acknowledging he got this horribly wrong? i acknowledging he got this horribly wrong?— acknowledging he got this horribly wrong? i think you made the _ horribly wrong? i think you made the mistake - horribly wrong? i think you made the mistake of- horribly wrong? i think you - made the mistake of negotiating with the taliban without the afghan government. i would have done it differently. find done it differently. and releasing _ done it differently. and releasing those - done it differently. and releasing those 5000 l done it differently. and releasing those 5000 fighters? not so much that. how does the war end? reconciliation between war end ? reconciliation between the war end? reconciliation between the taliban and afghan people at large. negotiating to end the war makes perfect sense to me. allowing the taliban to take over the country militarily makes no sense to me. and there were conditions on the deal with trumper they could not do that so, whether you blame trump biden here is what awaits us as a western world. those who fought along our side are going to make a very terrible demise and they are going to be treated very poorly. and our likelihood of having friends in the future to deal with the radical islamic threats goes down. and if you
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don't think al-qaeda and isis are planning ways to hit us right now from afghanistan, i think you are making a grave mistake. to think you are making a grave mistake. ., , , ., mistake. to be blunt about it joe mistake. to be blunt about it joe biden _ mistake. to be blunt about it joe biden echoing _ mistake. to be blunt about it joe biden echoing the - joe biden echoing the sentiments donald trump has told the american people we are no longer in the business of nation building, fighting for other wars and other peoples behalf. so when you talk about the people living in fear in kabul today, the horrible situation facing women who think their rights be abused and eroded, the message from america is, we don't and we cannot care about that and put our forces in harms cannot care about that and put ourforces in harms way cannot care about that and put our forces in harms way for that. i our forces in harms way for that. ., ., our forces in harms way for that. ~ ., , our forces in harms way for that. ~ . , g ., that. i think that is the joe biden message _ that. i think that is the joe biden message which - that. i think that is the joe biden message which is i that. l think that is the joe . biden message which is dumb that. i think that is the joe - biden message which is dumb as dirt. let me tell you why i thinkjoe biden has been wrong for almost 20 years on the star. joe biden does not see the existential threat from afghanistan to the american homeland. how did we get attacked 20 years ago, september 11? the taliban gave al-qaeda a safe haven to plan and plot against america and
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the soldiers who were there, the soldiers who were there, the british soldiers, the nato forces, the american forces, whether to give the capability to the afghan military said that the taliban would take over the country and give safe haven to radical islamic groups who would attack us. and the caliphate was formed syria and iraq 20 countries got hit in 2000 people got hit. here is what we're trying to tell the american people. the residual counterterrorism force made up of nato members and us special forces is an insurance policy against another 9/11. president biden is trying to tell the american people there is no national security interest in afghanistan and he is dead wrong. the nato were willing to stay in afghanistan if we stayed. we chose not to stay. they could stay if we left. so you may be fighting radical islam, they are not tired of fighting you. i islam, they are not tired of fighting yon-— islam, they are not tired of fighting you. i am again very mindful of— fighting you. i am again very mindful of the _ fighting you. i am again very mindful of the fact _ fighting you. i am again very mindful of the fact that, - fighting you. i am again very mindful of the fact that, for| mindful of the fact that, for the last few years, you have been one of donald trump is my
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biggest cheerleaders in us congress. was donald trump who called nato obsolete. it is donald trump who has developed a toxic relationship between the united states and much of europe and other partners around the world. it was donald trump, frankly, who seemed much more confident to do it but comfortable dealing with authoritarians. alchemy were great support if you now feel the way you do? i great support if you now feel the way you do?— great support if you now feel the way you do? i have always felt nato was _ the way you do? i have always felt nato was a _ the way you do? i have always felt nato was a good - the way you do? i have always felt nato was a good partner. | felt nato was a good partner. donald trump got nato to up its game, to contribute more. donald trump took a military and the united states, that was pretty well depleted, and made it a strong ties been since ronald reagan. he it a strong ties been since ronald reagan.— it a strong ties been since ronald reagan. he was the america first _ ronald reagan. he was the america first president. - ronald reagan. he was the america first president. he | america first president. he planted the seeds of isolationism that we see today in your country. i isolationism that we see today in your country.— in your country. i would say let'sjudge _ in your country. i would say let'sjudge him _ in your country. i would say let'sjudge him based - in your country. i would say let'sjudge him based on i in your country. i would say i let'sjudge him based on what he did. he destroyed the caliphate. 0k. it rose on obama and biden's watch and trump
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sent the military into destroyed. and he left about 2500 us soldiers on the ground with nato allies. they are no longer there. with nato allies. they are no longerthere. he with nato allies. they are no longer there. he rebuilt the military in a fashion where we can be effective all over the globe. the deterioration of the military during the obama years was real. he was my point. whether you like trump or not, whether you believe it is his fault biden's bowled here is where we are at as a world. the taliban are not reformed. they are not new. they have a view of the world out of sync with modern times. they're going to pose a lifestyle on the afghan people. that i think is going to make us all stick to our stomach but most importantly, they are going to get safe haven to al-qaeda who have ambitions to drive us out of the mid east at large and attack us because of our way of life. we'll be going back into afghanistan as he went back into iraq and syria. to
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seriously _ into iraq and syria. to seriously think the united states will once again in the foreseeable future put troops back into afghanistan. latte foreseeable future put troops back into afghanistan. we will have two because _ back into afghanistan. we will have two because the - back into afghanistan. we will have two because the threat l have two because the threat will be so large. why do we go back to syria and iraq? why do we have 5000 troops in iraq today? because of the caliphate rising, killing americans, killing the french, attacking the british. so, yes, it will be a cauldron for a radical islamic behaviour. you cannot with this over the horizon. he was my solution. help the resistance. the taliban will not be able to govern afghanistan for that they hated ljy afghanistan for that they hated by the afghan people. what will happen over time as you will see the resistance rise. isis will come after the taliban large and the entire country is going to fracture in the next year. creating a perfect storm for western interest to be attacked. you can do one of two things. you can say, that's no longer my problem and that it
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built and get hit or hit them before they hit you. i built and get hit or hit them before they hit you.- built and get hit or hit them before they hit you. i want to talk a little — before they hit you. i want to talk a little bit _ before they hit you. i want to talk a little bit less _ before they hit you. i want to talk a little bit less about - talk a little bit less about geopolitics and about personal politics. yourjourney, to many people, both in the united states and around the world, it is pretty inexplicable. you with a great friend and ally of john mccain and ewan t, and i've interviewed you about this in the you and he with a great advocate of using american military mites overseas and you believed in defending values and protecting america's power in 2016 you jumped horses. you back to donald trump. as i said, the america first president many see as an isolationist. he hated john mccain but you made a choice. you chose proximity to power with trump over principal and john mccain. with trump over principal and john mccain-— with trump over principal and john mccain. that are sort of a liberal narrative _ john mccain. that are sort of a liberal narrative and _ john mccain. that are sort of a liberal narrative and here's - liberal narrative and here's what it actually happened. trump one.
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what it actually happened. trump one-— what it actually happened. trump one.- i - what it actually happened. trump one.- i didn't| trump one. right. ididn't choose donald _ trump one. right. ididn't choose donald trump. - trump one. right. ididn't| choose donald trump. the american people chose donald trump. my state voted for donald trump. i'm a senator from south carolina. a conscious decision after saying everything bad i could during 2016. ., ~ ., ., ., ., 2016. you know i am going to wheel out _ 2016. you know i am going to wheel out the _ 2016. you know i am going to wheel out the quote - 2016. you know i am going to wheel out the quote for - 2016. you know i am going to wheel out the quote for you l wheel out the quote for you called donald trump, you said, don't vote for this guy because he is a race baiting xenophobic bigot. he is a race baiting xenophobic biuot. ., , , ., he is a race baiting xenophobic biot. ., , , ., it he is a race baiting xenophobic bigot._ it does | bigot. religious bigot. it does not represent _ bigot. religious bigot. it does not represent me. _ bigot. religious bigot. it does not represent me. and - bigot. religious bigot. it does not represent me. and you i bigot. religious bigot. it does i not represent me. and you know what my party told me? go to hell. you thought the guy was a xenophobic bigot. i hell. you thought the guy was a xenophobic bigot._ xenophobic bigot. i accepted the consequences _ xenophobic bigot. i accepted the consequences of - xenophobic bigot. i accepted the consequences of the - the consequences of the election. the people in south carolina chose president trump. i try to help where i could. so it is ok to _ i try to help where i could. so it is ok to help a guy who you
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believe is a racist bigot through four years? it believe is a racist bigot through four years? it is ok for kamala _ through four years? it is ok for kamala harris _ through four years? it is ok for kamala harris to - through four years? it is ok for kamala harris to service j for kamala harris to service joe biden's vice president when it is suggested he supported racist policies. if you know anything about democracy, when the election is over 4000 and then you never had the ability to govern. so i understand the game being played here and what will i do? i will helpjoe biden where i can. i voted for the infrastructure bill. i would like to help him but it seems that we have on different planets, politically. donald trump runs again i will support him. , , trump runs again i will support him. , him. this debate is not academic— him. this debate is not academic as _ him. this debate is not academic as it - him. this debate is not academic as it was - him. this debate is not academic as it was in i him. this debate is not - academic as it was in 2016. it is about your party and the future of the united states. for example, your party right now looks like it is dominated by an extremist faction. would you agree with that?— by an extremist faction. would you agree with that? from your view i you agree with that? from your view i agree _ you agree with that? from your view i agree that _ you agree with that? from your view i agree that is _ you agree with that? from your view i agree that is what - you agree with that? from your view i agree that is what you i view i agree that is what you think. no, idon't view i agree that is what you think. no, i don't agree with that. is think. no, i don't agree with that. , , ., , that. is driving the strategy, the vision — that. is driving the strategy, the vision of _ that. is driving the strategy, the vision of your _ that. is driving the strategy, the vision of your party? is i that. is driving the strategy, | the vision of your party? is it
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the vision of your party? is it the people that you continue... let me finish the question. is that the people who continue to believe that the election was rigged. it was stolen from donald trump, that biden has no legitimacy and that assault on the capital on the 6th of january was, as many of your colleagues in the party continued to insist, actually the work of leftist radicals, not the work of trump supporters?— not the work of trump supporters? not the work of trump su--orters? ., ., , ., supporters? no. that is not the ma'ori supporters? no. that is not the majority of _ supporters? no. that is not the majority of the _ supporters? no. that is not the majority of the republican i majority of the republican party put up what happened january six was an affront to democracy. trump deserves a special aeroplane. the bottom line is i hope everybody goes to jail. what is driving this party is that the way we do business in to get better over time but we control the border. it is nowjust a complete chaos. during our time we cut your taxes. they are spending money like drunken sailors and deflation is through the roof. i think america is going to vote republican because they see us as better policy. this is going to be a policy
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election. you're going to make it about donald trump and it won't work. is it about donald trump and it won't work-— it about donald trump and it won't work. is the republican -a won't work. is the republican party viable _ won't work. is the republican party viable without - won't work. is the republican party viable without donald . party viable without donald trump? party viable without donald trum - ? , party viable without donald trump?- why - party viable without donald trump?- why are i party viable without donald trump? yes. why are you clinging — trump? yes. why are you clinging to _ trump? yes. why are you clinging to him? - trump? yes. why are you clinging to him? i- trump? yes. why are you clinging to him? i think i trump? yes. why are you | clinging to him? i think he trump? yes. why are you i clinging to him? i think he is doini clinging to him? i think he is doing leader _ clinging to him? i think he is doing leader of _ clinging to him? i think he is doing leader of the - clinging to him? i think he is doing leader of the party. i clinging to him? i think he is i doing leader of the party. what makes you think you've lost the election or not? yes, i think you lost the election. he doesn't- _ you lost the election. he doesn't. you _ you lost the election. he doesn't. you definitely i you lost the election. he i doesn't. you definitely lost the election. _ doesn't. you definitely lost the election. he _ doesn't. you definitely lost the election. he says i doesn't. you definitely lost the election. he says it i doesn't. you definitely lost| the election. he says it was stolen. the election. he says it was stolen- i— the election. he says it was stolen. i was _ the election. he says it was stolen. i was reptile. i the election. he says it was stolen. i was reptile. the i the election. he says it was i stolen. i was reptile. the guy doesnt stolen. i was reptile. the guy doesn't accept _ stolen. i was reptile. the guy doesn't accept the _ stolen. i was reptile. the guy| doesn't accept the democratic verdict of the american people. hilary didn't accept the election.— election. there is no comparison. - election. there is no comparison. he i election. there is no comparison. he sits| election. there is no i comparison. he sits there election. there is no - comparison. he sits there and says the selection was rigged, it was stolen and thatjoe biden is not the legitimate president. he biden is not the legitimate president.— biden is not the legitimate president. , , ., president. he believes that, i don't believe _ president. he believes that, i don't believe that. _ president. he believes that, i don't believe that. why i president. he believes that, i don't believe that. why do i president. he believes that, i | don't believe that. why do you sa he is don't believe that. why do you say he is the — don't believe that. why do you say he is the leader _ don't believe that. why do you say he is the leader of - don't believe that. why do you say he is the leader of our i say he is the leader of our party then?— say he is the leader of our party then? the policies he enacted work. _ party then? the policies he enacted work. see, - party then? the policies he
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enacted work. see, most i party then? the policies he i enacted work. see, most people are not going tojudge enacted work. see, most people are not going to judge 2022 by what trump said, they are going tojudge based on life in america. life in america and i was pretty tough. crime is on the rise. the borders are broken, inflation is rampant, afghanistan is a mess and we look weak and feckless. we are coming back because the way they have overplayed their hand, we are coming back because when you look back and compare trump's handling of the world and the economy versus that of biden, we're going to because tom's policies will wear well over time.- because tom's policies will wear well over time. you are talkin: wear well over time. you are talking about _ wear well over time. you are talking about trump's - wear well over time. you are talking about trump's still i talking about trump's still popular. i'm talking about values and belief in democracy and the fact that some people in your party in congress alike marjorie green, that they basically supported the conspiracy theories, they are extremists.— extremists. they are not the leaders of — extremists. they are not the leaders of this _ extremists. they are not the leaders of this party. - extremists. they are not the leaders of this party. i i extremists. they are not the leaders of this party. i won't| leaders of this party. i won't through this with cnn last night. that is the liberal
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narrative. we have a lot of younger people that are coming out. ., , ~' , , out. people like liz cheney is now excluded _ out. people like liz cheney is now excluded from _ out. people like liz cheney is now excluded from your i out. people like liz cheney is. now excluded from your party. she has decided there is no place in the party for donald trump. place in the party for donald trum -. . . . place in the party for donald trum-. . , , , trump. that is the litmus test ri . ht trump. that is the litmus test right now. _ trump. that is the litmus test right now. is _ trump. that is the litmus test right now, is it? _ trump. that is the litmus test right now, is it? in _ trump. that is the litmus test right now, is it? in my- trump. that is the litmus test right now, is it? in my view. right now, is it? in my view there is _ right now, is it? in my view there is a — right now, is it? in my view there is a place _ right now, is it? in my view there is a place in - right now, is it? in my view there is a place in the i there is a place in the republican party for donald trump. we will have this interview next year when we win. and how do you explain the fact... if the republican party does take over the house and we take over the senate is that a damning indictment of the american people? you would have it believe that... it american people? you would have it believe that. . ._ it believe that... it may be that derivative _ it believe that... it may be j that derivative extremism, authoritarianism. - that derivative extremism, authoritarianism. that i that derivative extremism, authoritarianism. that is i that derivative extremism, authoritarianism. that is a | authoritarianism. that is a bunch of garbage.- authoritarianism. that is a bunch of garbage. why has your -a bunch of garbage. why has your party seemingly _ bunch of garbage. why has your party seemingly decided - bunch of garbage. why has your party seemingly decided to i party seemingly decided to fight a culture war against science? i'm thinking particularly of the handled
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covid—i9. particularly of the handled covid-19-_ particularly of the handled i covid-19._ what covid-19. get vaccinated. what is our covid-19. get vaccinated. what is your message _ covid-19. get vaccinated. what is your message to _ covid-19. get vaccinated. what is your message to senior - is your message to senior republicans who are actually fighting so—called mask mandates? if fighting so-called mask mandates?— fighting so-called mask mandates? , ., mandates? if it was up to me and i am _ mandates? if it was up to me and i am not _ mandates? if it was up to me and i am not a _ mandates? if it was up to me and i am not a governor, - mandates? if it was up to me and i am not a governor, i. and i am not a governor, i would like local communities decide whether or not a mask was appropriate for school at the workplace and all i can say about covid is the best thing going is the vaccine. it is not a mask. take the vaccine. it was said not so long ago that trump's handling of covid head very likely cost many lives. you know, is biden�*s handling of covid costing many lives? is boris johnson's of covid costing many lives? is borisjohnson�*s handling of covid costing many lives? the delta variant is coming back strong. all i would say is in terms of a worldwide pandemic it came out of china. at the gate most likely came out of the lab and the world is, the
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more vaccines we can get out the better. i would like to give more vaccines to africa. i think we don't do that we are all going to pay a heavy price. here is what is going to determine 2022 in the united states. this is hard to talk. your view of the american political system i think is not right. i think you're missing the elephant in the room. i think you don't quite understand the dynamic in america that the reason the republican party will come back is because the policy agenda of president biden has not worked. that the policy agenda president trump looks better by the day. that the average person does the republican party some kind of extremist group of people waking up everyday trying to change america. i think that is the narrative that has been pushed that will not hold, will not stand the test of time. there was one of— stand the test of time. there was one of the _ stand the test of time. there was one of the specific- stand the test of time. there was one of the specific area | was one of the specific area want to quickly touch on and thatis want to quickly touch on and that is the state of texas's decision to introduce a new
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abortion law which, in essence, would make unlawful any abortion after six weeks. now, this common to many americans, looks like a fundamental challenge to the roe v wade rights of women to get an abortion. it rights of women to get an abortion-— rights of women to get an abortion.- your- rights of women to get an | abortion.- your party, rights of women to get an i abortion.- your party, it abortion. it is. your party, it seems. _ abortion. it is. your party, it seems, wants _ abortion. it is. your party, it seems, wants to _ abortion. it is. your party, it seems, wants to go - abortion. it is. your party, it seems, wants to go out - abortion. it 3 your party, it seems, wants to go out there and overturn a woman's right to and overturn a woman's right to an abortion. is that correct? that is right. the republican party believes that roe v wade, a judicial decision prohibiting elected representatives to have any say about the issue was an overreach but by the course... watch. this completed issue about when we should intervene, when should we stand up for the rights of the unborn, will take place if the court sets aside roe v wade.— place if the court sets aside roe v wade. but what is not complicated _ roe v wade. but what is not complicated is _ roe v wade. but what is not complicated is that - roe v wade. but what is not complicated is that poll - roe v wade. but what is not j complicated is that poll after poll of many years she was majority of americans believe in a women's right to choose.
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your party seem to be determined to fight a cultural war on this issue. why? hf determined to fight a cultural war on this issue. why? if you believe that _ war on this issue. why? if you believe that life _ war on this issue. why? if you believe that life is _ war on this issue. why? if you believe that life is sacred - believe that life is sacred from the beginning to the end if you that the government should have some say about when life begins when it ends that were taken away by a court decision. i don't know what you believe about when we become who we are, at what point in time in the development of the human being that you actually have an individual identity. there are a lot of americans who are pro—choice and don't like the idea of late term abortion. right? later in the birthing process abortion becomes less popular. whether you like opposition or not it is there. we have consistently said we thought roe v wade would be an overreach. we will see with the supreme court does and that will be on the ballot. i suppose my question is do you worry about the polarisation, the deep divisions in your
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country today? which frankly your party appears to be making deeper rather than attempting to breach? j deeper rather than attempting to breach?— to breach? i think this idea that somehow _ to breach? i think this idea that somehow the - to breach? i think this idea i that somehow the republican party is to blame for divisions in america by itself is ridiculous. i think the divisions... h ridiculous. i think the divisions. . ._ ridiculous. ithink the divisions... ., . ., divisions... i ask challenging questions — divisions... i ask challenging questions of _ divisions... i ask challenging questions of democrats, - divisions... i ask challenging | questions of democrats, too. but you need to think about your party and where you are going. h your party and where you are anoin. ~ , your party and where you are oiiin _ ~ , , going. i like where my partiers at. you going. i like where my partiers at- you keep _ going. i like where my partiers at. you keep coming _ going. i like where my partiers at. you keep coming back- going. i like where my partiers at. you keep coming back to i at. you keep coming back to we're going _ at. you keep coming back to we're going to _ at. you keep coming back to we're going to win _ at. you keep coming back to we're going to win first - at. you keep coming back to we're going to win first up i at. you keep coming back to we're going to win first up isj we're going to win first up is there not something more important than winning? maintaining america's freedoms, america's democracy and america's democracy and america's about and are all there is not at stake today? you might have you been in america? that's a great question. america? that's a great question-— america? that's a great question. america? that's a great uestion. ., ., question. people vote for you. the majority — question. people vote for you. the majority of _ question. people vote for you. the majority of the _ question. people vote for you. the majority of the people - question. people vote for you. the majority of the people sayj the majority of the people say we like what you are doing. the republican _ we like what you are doing. the republican party is only one one majority in a presidential election in 30 years. if
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one majority in a presidential election in 30 years.- election in 30 years. if you vote the — election in 30 years. if you vote the republican - election in 30 years. if you vote the republican party| election in 30 years. if you i vote the republican party you are basically anti—american? that is garbage. you may not be a conservative person and it is ok to be conservative. simply 0k to be conservative. simply to stand up for the unborn if you really believe the unborn needs to be stood up for. it is ok in my view to have 0k in my view to have differences on all of these issues and i think the reason we are going to do well is becausejoe biden was not the guy people thought they voted for. i thinkjoe biden is a decent man. i have known for 20 years. the agenda coming out of the biden administration is far more radical than people thought. it is transforming america in a way that nobody, i think, at home, really wants. we are going to be not so much because a buzz, a lot to do with them.— with them. and a final question. _ with them. and a final question, we - with them. and a final question, we talked i with them. and a final - question, we talked some about donald trump before. when you talk about winning as donald trump in yourview talk about winning as donald trump in your view going to the presidential candidate for your party in the next election and can hear and would he win? giue
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can hear and would he win? give ou ive can hear and would he win? give you give you _ can hear and would he win? give you give you once _ can hear and would he win? give you give you once you _ can hear and would he win? (1: a: you give you once you get the nomination. d0 you give you once you get the nomination.— you give you once you get the nomination. do you want him to run? yes- _ nomination. do you want him to run? yes- i _ nomination. do you want him to run? yes. i would _ nomination. do you want him to run? yes. i would liken - nomination. do you want him to run? yes. i would liken to - nomination. do you want him to run? yes. i would liken to have| run? yes. i would liken to have another chance. _ run? yes. i would liken to have another chance. if— run? yes. i would liken to have another chance. if he _ run? yes. i would liken to have another chance. if he runs - run? yes. i would liken to have another chance. if he runs he l another chance. if he runs he will win and the reason he will win is because most republicans, we all don't like the way he does it but we sort of like what he did that he actually did that thing that conservatives and in 2024 think it is more likely that trump will be on the ballot that may be biden. i don't knowjoe biden will run again but i think if he runs in 2024, the only way he can win is if we win in 2022 so here is what i would say. if you see the republican party take over the house and do well in the senate in 2022 that means january six was not present trump's obituary. i keep telling this. the only way for him to be bible in the future is first win in 2022. talk about what you would do differently. how
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you would do differently. how you would do differently. how you would change the country vis—a—vis what biden is doing. help us pick the most competitive candidates who can win in the states that matter and they really are only a handful of states. president trump helps us as republicans regain the house and the senate than i think he, it is nomination if he wants it and i would say... nomination if he wants it and i would say- - -— would say... you talk to him a lot. all would say... you talk to him a lot- all the — would say... you talk to him a lot. all the time. _ would say... you talk to him a lot. all the time. does - would say... you talk to him a lot. all the time. does he - would say... you talk to him a | lot. all the time. does he want it? yes, lot. all the time. does he want it? yes. i— lot. all the time. does he want it? yes, i don't— lot. all the time. does he want it? yes, i don't want _ lot. all the time. does he want it? yes, i don't want to - lot. all the time. does he want it? yes, i don't want to speak. it? yes, i don't want to speak for him but — it? yes, i don't want to speak for him but i _ it? yes, i don't want to speak for him but i think— it? yes, i don't want to speak for him but i think he - it? yes, i don't want to speak for him but i think he has - for him but i think he has unfinished business and he believes policy is to put in place worked for the country. and it is very upset by what he sees stage and mystically and i think the american people are going to have another say about donald trump.— donald trump. senator lindsey said were out _ donald trump. senator lindsey said were out of _ donald trump. senator lindsey said were out of time. - donald trump. senator lindsey said were out of time. thank. said were out of time. thank you very much. said were out of time. thank you very much-— said were out of time. thank you very much. thank you. -- mike senator— you very much. thank you. --
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mike senator lindsey - you very much. thank you. --| mike senator lindsey graham, sadly we are out of time. hello there. sunday was a warm, sunny day for most, hot for some along the south coast. we saw temperatures peaking at 27 celsius in west sussex — that's 80 fahrenheit. we haven't seen temperatures like that in england since the end ofjuly. now, there was some cloud around, and you can see in the highland, the cloud thick enough for some rain, some of it heavy at times. and in fact, that weather front still continues to bring some outbreaks of rain as it moves its way steadily south into the north of england. it is weakening off as it bumps into this area of high pressure, so a band of cloud and a few spots of rain towards dawn. a mild start for all, maybe some mist and fog lingering across south wales and southwest england. but once that list, there'll be plenty of sunshine for england and wales once again, and the temperatures are set to climb. even a weak weather front will start to ease away
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and some sunshine comes through eastern england and northeast scotland. a light breeze coming from a southerly direction. that means it's driving up that warm, dry air, so temperatures peaking potentially once again at 27 degrees. now, as we move out of monday into tuesday, will high pressure influencing the story, and as the winds move around in a clockwise direction, well, that means that the wind direction is coming from a southeasterly, driving in this warm, dry air from the near continent. in actual fact, with a little bit more of the breeze around potentially on tuesday, that's going to break up that cloud. the sunshine is going to be fairly widespread right across the country, bar the exception perhaps for the western isles. temperatures will be a little bit warmer in scotland, peaking at 25 celsius. we might see 28 or 29 somewhere across central or southern england. now, as we move out of tuesday into wednesday, again, still plenty of warm, sunny weather, but there is the potential for a few sharp, thundery showers towards the end of the day to develop down into the southwest, tied into another area of low pressure.
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so, here, not quite as warm, but again, we're still likely to see those temperatures peaking into the high 20s. that means that thursday will start to see a change as areas of low pressure move and off the atlantic, the wind direction changing once again and we'll see some outbreaks of rain. now, not widespread, but it does mean that there will be a change as we move towards the end of the week. so, turning from warmer weather into something cooler with rain on thursday.
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welcome to newsday, reporting live from singapore, i'm karishma vaswani. the headlines. in afghanistan, the leader of the resistance group fighting the taliban says he's willing to enter peace talks. beyond kabul — we have a special report from rural afghanistan on life under the taliban. and we'll hear from the head of foreign relations for the resistance movement in afghanistan. also in the programme. football's world cup qualifier between brazil and argentina is dramatically abandoned after a row about covid quarantine rules. and tributes to former girls aloud singer sarah harding, who's died at the age of 39 after being
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