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from tuesday to stop the spread of the omicron variant — as nigeria becomes the latest country to be added to the travel red list. thousands of homes in scotland and northern england begin a second weekend without power after storm arwen. the parents of a teenager suspected of a deadly school shooting have pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter — after they were found hiding in a basement. at least one person has been killed and dozens injured after a volcano erupts on the indonesian island of java hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are the author and journalist, yasmin alibhai—brown and annabel, denham, the director of communications at the free market think tank, the institute of economics affairs. let's take a first look at some of tomorrow's front pages. hello again to both of you. a quick look through ourfront hello again to both of you. a quick look through our front pages of our viewers. the sunday mirror has spoken to relatives of covid victims, who describe number 10 holding parties last christmas as "a slap in the face". there's a poll in the observer from yougov, which says trust in politicians has fallen dramatically since boris johnson become pm. the sunday times says doctors are angry that unvaccinated people are taking up hospital beds and delaying vital procedures. recollections from prince william about his mother is the top story in the sunday express. and he's also on the front of the sunday telegraph,
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which also reports on ministers planning to roll out an anti—viral covid treatment by christmas. there was the flavour of the papers. sorry, i'vejust renamed there was the flavour of the papers. sorry, i've just renamed you alibi. laughter 0h, laughter oh, boy. annabelle, you are going to kick off please. take away from me, sunday telegraph. kick off please. take away from me, sunday telegraph-— sunday telegraph. yes, sure. this looks like good — sunday telegraph. yes, sure. this looks like good news _ sunday telegraph. yes, sure. this looks like good news on _ sunday telegraph. yes, sure. this looks like good news on a - sunday telegraph. yes, sure. this looks like good news on a sunday| looks like good news on a sunday morning. it's the first approved antiviral for this disease that can be taken by mouth rather than administered intravenously, which means they can be in great neck administered outside of a hospital setting, and hopefully before covid—19 has progressed to a severe stage, the news that we are hearing about it is very encouraging, that it's safe, it's
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about it is very encouraging, that it's safe, its effective, for those with mild and moderate symptoms, and clinical trials, with mild and moderate symptoms, and clinicaltrials, it with mild and moderate symptoms, and clinical trials, it revealed that it reduce that risk by as much as 50%. let's hope that it's a game changer that the health secretary is claiming that it can be, because, of course, his announcement is emerging and they knew is that the uk is tightening its travel rules. as he mentioned to him at the start from everyone age 12 and over is going to have to take the predeparture test a maximum of 48 hours before arriving in the uk. it's a fresh blow to the uk travel industry, but also, its fresh fears over what's going to happen to christmas this year after it was cancelled in 2020. so clinging onto the good news for now. yeah. yes men, a lot of the travel companies, certainly the bodies and the associations are not happy about that latest move that annabelle just
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mentioned in the predeparture test, but potentially good news concerning the treatment of covid—19. fine but potentially good news concerning the treatment of covid-19._ the treatment of covid-19. one is lookin: the treatment of covid-19. one is looking for _ the treatment of covid-19. one is looking for the _ the treatment of covid-19. one is looking for the good _ the treatment of covid-19. one is looking for the good news - the treatment of covid-19. one is looking for the good news and... | the treatment of covid-19. one is - looking for the good news and... you know, there is a very, this is not a time when dashing out a time that when a huge number of people are very angry with the government from the travel companies to the right wing off the tory party to doctors, and now i hope this isn'tjust a kind of santa claus moments that they thought if we can just release status, and i hope these are genuine, sober and responsible decisions. we genuine, sober and responsible decisions. ~ ., decisions. we did here at said javid when d decisions. we did here at said javid when it i decisions. we did here at said
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javid when it was i decisions. we did here at said javid when it was first i decisions. we did here at sajid i javid when it was first announced about omicron had been detected and they announced that an initial read list. he did mention the fact that they were looking reassessing their antivirals then as well. so, yeah, we will see what happens. that's come christmas that it will hopefully be released. the sunday times we will go to, annabelle, and doctors anger over the lack of emergency beds.— doctors anger over the lack of emergency beds. doctors anger over the lack of emeruen beds. , ., _ emergency beds. frese, i would say that i am very _ emergency beds. frese, i would say that i am very pro- _ emergency beds. frese, i would say that i am very pro- vaccines. - emergency beds. frese, i would say that i am very pro- vaccines. i'm - that i am very pro— vaccines. i'm double jabs, my children are up—to—date with their inoculations, the uptake for an nr has dropped to i think at least five percentage points below the level required for herd immunity, so i am very pro— vaccine, but what i would say in contrast to that is i don't think we ought to be castigating the investigated for occupying hospital beds. we need to understand why they are not getting the coronavirus vaccine and perhaps identify other ways of communicating with them and educating them on the benefits, and
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that's notjust anti— factors who don't believe, but also the vaccine hesitant and just really trying to understand what it is that's making them reluctant to come forward and get theirjab. obviously i understand the frustration held by doctors and nurses, but i would rather than lambasting the that we explore the ways in which the nhs is not fit for purpose the ways in which it could be reformed, because at the moment, we are standing above the acd average on health care as a percentage of gdp, yet we have fewer hospital beds them if your doctors, fewer nurses than the ocd average, so i think that's definitely something that could be addressed and might help alleviate some of the frustration held by those front line staff. i frustration held by those front line staff. u, frustration held by those front line staff. _, ., staff. i could not disagree with annabelle _ staff. i could not disagree with annabelle more. _ staff. i could not disagree with annabelle more. i— staff. i could not disagree with annabelle more. iwill- staff. i could not disagree with annabelle more. i will not- staff. i could not disagree with j annabelle more. i will not turn staff. i could not disagree with - annabelle more. i will not turn this into a _ annabelle more. i will not turn this into a criticism of the national health— into a criticism of the national health service, which i know it's a popular— health service, which i know it's a popular among some institutions, it
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is very— popular among some institutions, it is very important tends to get tough with the _ is very important tends to get tough with the anti— vaccination movement, because _ with the anti— vaccination movement, because it _ with the anti— vaccination movement, because it is — with the anti— vaccination movement, because it is a movement, and if it is all— because it is a movement, and if it is all about— because it is a movement, and if it is all about my choice, that would be fine, _ is all about my choice, that would be fine, but — is all about my choice, that would be fine, but when you make that choice. — be fine, but when you make that choice. you _ be fine, but when you make that choice, you are endangering your life and _ choice, you are endangering your life and all— choice, you are endangering your life and all of our lives. therefore, i think as we are seeing across— therefore, i think as we are seeing across the — therefore, i think as we are seeing across the european nations, we have to take _ across the european nations, we have to take a _ across the european nations, we have to take a tougher line. i wonder how many— to take a tougher line. i wonder how many of— to take a tougher line. i wonder how many of them would relent if they were _ many of them would relent if they were offered £500 each, whether they would _ were offered £500 each, whether they would stick _ were offered £500 each, whether they would stick to their principles, and you know. — would stick to their principles, and you know, you can't educate people who are _ you know, you can't educate people who are so — you know, you can't educate people who are so convinced. i've had these arguments— who are so convinced. i've had these arguments with loads of them. they are not— arguments with loads of them. they are not listening. they are on a kind _ are not listening. they are on a kind of— are not listening. they are on a kind of different planets, and the only thing that will change that behaviour is some kind of punitive measure. — behaviour is some kind of punitive measure, finds, all kinds of things to make _ measure, finds, all kinds of things to make them understand that it's
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not about— to make them understand that it's not about you, it's about all of us. and just _ not about you, it's about all of us. and just keen to find out a little bit more about this. when you refer to the people that you are talking to, these are people within the movement, because there are various reasons for not having a vaccine. you are talking about those staunch anti— vax areas who are perhaps pushing their views on to other people. pushing their views on to other --eole. , ., pushing their views on to other eo . le, , ., , pushing their views on to other --eole. , . , ., ., people. yes, and using social media, a lot of them — people. yes, and using social media, a lot of them are _ people. yes, and using social media, a lot of them are young _ people. yes, and using social media, a lot of them are young and - people. yes, and using social media, a lot of them are young and very - a lot of them are young and very bright, _ a lot of them are young and very bright, and— a lot of them are young and very bright, and they are using social media first of all with their own families— media first of all with their own families and then with the communities in which they live, coming — communities in which they live, coming up _ communities in which they live, coming up with fake information and that has— coming up with fake information and that has to _ coming up with fake information and that has to stop, and it will only stop— that has to stop, and it will only stop when— that has to stop, and it will only stop when there are deterrents. you know, _ stop when there are deterrents. you know. this _ stop when there are deterrents. you know, this idea that we have kind of beat this— know, this idea that we have kind of beat this thing is just foolish, but there _ beat this thing is just foolish, but there is— beat this thing is just foolish, but there is a — beat this thing is just foolish, but there is a very strong beyond this country— there is a very strong beyond this country international movements and ithink—
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country international movements and i think the _ country international movements and i think the only thing that works is, you — i think the only thing that works is, you know, some action by the state _ is, you know, some action by the state in — is, you know, some action by the state. in france, where we wear, everywhere — state. in france, where we wear, everywhere you went to me had to show _ everywhere you went to me had to show that — everywhere you went to me had to show that you had been vaccinated. nobody— show that you had been vaccinated. nobody could take up about it. annabelle, we are going to turn to the front page of the observer. progress on a now squandered. not going to be squandered, but it is squandered, when's an expert. yes. squandered, when's an expert. yes, so i think squandered, when's an expert. yes, so i thinkthis _ squandered, when's an expert. yes, so i think this is _ squandered, when's an expert. yes, so i think this is a _ squandered, when's an expert. has so i think this is a slightly strange story, commit to see on the cover of the observer, comments from jonathan for our that scientists at the wellcome trust, and it's being held at a front—page story, but it's not really news. as he say, he is warning that the world is closer to the start of the pandemic than the end. and i think it's easy to forget here, orat end. and i think it's easy to forget here, or at least it was before omicron arrived on our shores, that
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while the english epidemic looked like it was over, that the pandemic, of course is still raging in many parts of the world. the main complaint, i think is that rich countries have been lulled into thinking that the worst is over. he says he's cautiously hopeful that the current vaccines will protect against severe illness from omicron and certainly that's what the early evidence suggests or points to, quite a lot of scientist coming out and saying that they share that optimism, but we don't know for sure. we will hear more about it in the coming days. but, you know, i wonder if when he gets into a bit more detail, he will perhaps explore, you know, how the uk is going to be delivering 100,000,000 vaccines that we have pledged to share with those in need. i think we have set out has 70% of them will be delivered, but perhaps you'd like a bit more detail on that, and it's held by a lot of people in this pandemic that no one is safe until we are all say. it's not one that i subscribe to, but certainly there
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are a lot of people out there who do. .. are a lot of people out there who do, ,,., , , g , are a lot of people out there who do. ,,. , , g , ., are a lot of people out there who do. , _ , ., ., do. said this is jeremy far from the wellcome trust _ do. said this is jeremy far from the wellcome trust firmly _ do. said this is jeremy far from the wellcome trust firmly of _ do. said this is jeremy far from the wellcome trust firmly of the - wellcome trust firmly of the wellcome trust firmly of the wellcome trust firmly of the wellcome trust saying a very blank of domestic focus, yasmin. your thoughts on that? you have ties in africa, i know, and a lot of people have been pointing to africa and the dismal vaccination rates there. yes. dismal vaccination rates there. yes, and also there _ dismal vaccination rates there. yes, and also there is _ dismal vaccination rates there. yes, and also there is a _ dismal vaccination rates there. yes, and also there is a lot _ dismal vaccination rates there. yes, and also there is a lot of _ and also there is a lot of scepticism in afghan nations as well because they have watched what's happening in europe and they are convinced, and there is a whole history of some very bad practice with medication, vaccination and african nations and among the slave populations. we know all of that, but most of them would very much like to be offered and would like to get this protection. i do believe that unless we become very international in our outlook, more
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people around the world are safe. we will not be safe unless we stop all travel. all income is and all travel outs, we will not be safe. {lilia outs, we will not be safe. ok, certainly _ outs, we will not be safe. ok, certainly the _ outs, we will not be safe. ok, certainly the who _ outs, we will not be safe. ok, certainly the who is - outs, we will not be safe. ok, certainly the who is saying that they were not too sure about whether travel was effective, if anything, it's only that but not buying as a matter of weeks, but the other story on the other page of the observer, johnson faces trust crisis as sleaze shatters faith in mps. this johnson faces trust crisis as sleaze shatters faith in mps._ shatters faith in mps. this will be a tou~h shatters faith in mps. this will be a tough pill _ shatters faith in mps. this will be a tough pill for — shatters faith in mps. this will be a tough pill for boris _ shatters faith in mps. this will be a tough pill for boris johnson - shatters faith in mps. this will be a tough pill for boris johnson and j a tough pill for boris johnson and indeed, _ a tough pill for boris johnson and indeed, tomorrow morning when they wake up _ indeed, tomorrow morning when they wake up and — indeed, tomorrow morning when they wake up and see that headline, yeah, data from _ wake up and see that headline, yeah, data from the institute of public policy _ data from the institute of public policy research, the politicians are 'ust policy research, the politicians are just out _ policy research, the politicians are just out for— policy research, the politicians are just out for themselves, it's left up just out for themselves, it's left up to— just out for themselves, it's left up to about 63%. recent data from 57%. _
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up to about 63%. recent data from 57%. in_ up to about 63%. recent data from 57%, in may, so you can see the impact _ 57%, in may, so you can see the impact their— 57%, in may, so you can see the impact their of the sleeves, scandal that has— impact their of the sleeves, scandal that has plagued westminster in recent— that has plagued westminster in recent weeks. it's not surprising, really. _ recent weeks. it's not surprising, really. that— recent weeks. it's not surprising, really, that you see that public trust _ really, that you see that public trust in — really, that you see that public trust in politicians, just as the expenses— trust in politicians, just as the expenses scandal that back in 2009, ithink— expenses scandal that back in 2009, i think it _ expenses scandal that back in 2009, i think it is _ expenses scandal that back in 2009, i think it is a — expenses scandal that back in 2009, i think it is a plague on all of their— i think it is a plague on all of their house come i know that headline _ their house come i know that headline focuses on the impact on boris _ headline focuses on the impact on borisjohnson, where it will be headline focuses on the impact on boris johnson, where it will be felt most _ boris johnson, where it will be felt most acutely, but that data suggests 'ust most acutely, but that data suggests just 5%_ most acutely, but that data suggests just 5% say— most acutely, but that data suggests just 5% say that mps are working for the public— just 5% say that mps are working for the public at, and of course, there are so— the public at, and of course, there are so many mps out there who are very scrupulous who do adhere to the rules very— very scrupulous who do adhere to the rules very strictly, but, you know, we have _ rules very strictly, but, you know, we have obviously had this sleaze scandal— we have obviously had this sleaze scandal in — we have obviously had this sleaze scandal in marriage, and it has affected — scandal in marriage, and it has affected how the public the politicians.— affected how the public the politicians. affected how the public the oliticians. ., , �* affected how the public the oliticians. . , �* ., politicians. yasmin, i didn't get a chance to get _ politicians. yasmin, i didn't get a chance to get your _ politicians. yasmin, i didn't get a chance to get your thoughts - politicians. yasmin, i didn't get a chance to get your thoughts on . politicians. yasmin, i didn't get a i chance to get your thoughts on the story in the last paper review, so your thoughts, yasmin?
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story in the last paper review, so yourthoughts, yasmin? i story in the last paper review, so your thoughts, yasmin?- story in the last paper review, so your thoughts, yasmin? i think it's an interesting _ your thoughts, yasmin? i think it's an interesting survey, _ your thoughts, yasmin? i think it's an interesting survey, but - your thoughts, yasmin? i think it's an interesting survey, but i - your thoughts, yasmin? i think it's an interesting survey, but i think. an interesting survey, but i think what's unfair is that the sleeves we are now seeing at the moment is almost entirely the tories, and so if people cannot see the difference between all politicians and those politicians, then we barely are not a grown—up democracy. i think it would be really unfair to say all politicians are up to their neck in it, there are some very good tory mps who are not to certainly the other parties are much, much less at the moment. there have been periods of terrible sleaze, remember, where labour certainly was as culpable, but at this time, you know, what we are seeing is a very tory disease, and it would be a pity if voters were to lose faith in democracy instead of looking at where the rat is, i think.
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instead of looking at where the rat is, ithink. instead of looking at where the rat is, i think. ., �* ., ., is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow. _ is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow, if _ is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow, if you _ is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow, if you could - is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow, if you could take - is, i think. ok, we don't have long, but anna bow, if you could take us| but anna bow, if you could take us quickly to the front of the independent, top tories tell a pretty detailed to overhaul the asylum system.— pretty detailed to overhaul the as lum s stem. , ., , asylum system. yes, we have seen laid bare recently _ asylum system. yes, we have seen laid bare recently that _ asylum system. yes, we have seen laid bare recently that tough - asylum system. yes, we have seen laid bare recently that tough talk i laid bare recently that tough talk is simply not a deterrent to people who are already willing to risk their lives and travel to the uk and seek asylum. so i think it's absolutely right that the government is looking to change course, because the current approach as demonstrated by the _ the current approach as demonstrated by the tragedy in the channel last week— by the tragedy in the channel last week is— by the tragedy in the channel last week is not working. if by the tragedy in the channel last week is not working.— by the tragedy in the channel last week is not working. if the refugee a- lies in week is not working. if the refugee applies in paris _ week is not working. if the refugee applies in paris and _ week is not working. if the refugee applies in paris and is _ week is not working. if the refugee applies in paris and is turned - week is not working. if the refugee applies in paris and is turned on, i applies in paris and is turned on, will they not _ applies in paris and is turned on, will they not had _ applies in paris and is turned on, will they not had to _ applies in paris and is turned on, will they not had to carry - applies in paris and is turned on, will they not had to carry and - applies in paris and is turned on, | will they not had to carry and take a perilous — will they not had to carry and take a perilousjourney will they not had to carry and take a perilous journey to the uk anyway? if a perilous journey to the uk anyway? it you _ a perilous journey to the uk anyway? it you do _ a perilous journey to the uk anyway? if you do seek asylum quite far away from the _ if you do seek asylum quite far away from the uk, how will you then actually— from the uk, how will you then actually travel to britain? i think there _ actually travel to britain? i think there is— actually travel to britain? i think there is a — actually travel to britain? i think there is a lot more detail that's needed — there is a lot more detail that's needed before we sign up to the solutions. — needed before we sign up to the solutions, but i'm pleased to see, as i solutions, but i'm pleased to see, as i say— solutions, but i'm pleased to see, as i say that —
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solutions, but i'm pleased to see, as i say that the government is taking —

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