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this is bbc world news, the headlines: on their way to safety — civilians flee the besieged southern ukrainian city of mariupol but 160,000 people are estimated to be trapped inside. the red cross renew their evacuation attempts afterfailing on friday. police in sri lanka declare a 36—hour curfew across the country to try to head off planned anti—government protests.
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the country is in the midst of a major economic crisis. shops reopen under tight security in the capital, colombo. hollywood actor will smith resigns from the oscars academy after slapping comedian chris rock on stage during last sunday's ceremony. the academy says it accepts smith's resignation and would continue to move forward with their own disciplinary proceedings. now on bbc news, it's unspun world withjohn simpson. hello, and welcome to unspun world,
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where we ask the bbc�*s experts globally to explain what's going on in our world. the war in ukraine drags on into the second month but is either side actually winning. i second month but is either side actually winning.— actually winning. i think the russians — actually winning. i think the russians have _ actually winning. i think the russians have had - actually winning. i think the russians have had a - actually winning. i think the russians have had a reality| actually winning. i think the - russians have had a reality check. they have bitten off more than they can chew by trying to take the whole of ukraine. ., ., ,., . ., , can chew by trying to take the whole of ukraine. ., ., . ., , ., of ukraine. how other sanctions on the war affecting _ of ukraine. how other sanctions on the war affecting ordinary - of ukraine. how other sanctions on | the war affecting ordinary russians? their life as always been hard and they keep — their life as always been hard and they keep on struggling. and their life as always been hard and they keep on struggling.— their life as always been hard and they keep on struggling. and in the war in ethiopia, _ they keep on struggling. and in the war in ethiopia, is— they keep on struggling. and in the war in ethiopia, is there _ they keep on struggling. and in the war in ethiopia, is there a - they keep on struggling. and in the war in ethiopia, is there a slight - war in ethiopia, is there a slight glimmer of hope now?- war in ethiopia, is there a slight glimmer of hope now? when the government _ glimmer of hope now? when the government said _ glimmer of hope now? when the government said they _ glimmer of hope now? when the government said they were - glimmer of hope now? when the - government said they were declaring a truce on all humanitarian grounds, that was an encouraging sign that their work would be heading toward some sort of resolution. ida
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their work would be heading toward some sort of resolution. no knockout blow by russia _ some sort of resolution. no knockout blow by russia and _ some sort of resolution. no knockout blow by russia and no _ some sort of resolution. no knockout blow by russia and no sign _ some sort of resolution. no knockout blow by russia and no sign that - blow by russia and no sign that ukraine can throw out the invaders. it is a bleak picture. no side can give up to be seen to be defeated and at some point, vladimir putin might lose patience and reach for his nuclear weapons. 0nce ukraine showed its remarkable courage in resisting the russian attack, people in the west, who wanted ukraine to win, found themselves lapping up the bits of news that favoured the ukrainians. the russians have now offered to pull back their forces around kyiv and ternet have, although the ukrainians on their western supporters are sceptical. 0thers either in wartime, the first casualties truth. frank gardner, the
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bbc�*s security correspondent. there bbc's security correspondent. there is no getting — bbc's security correspondent. there is no getting around _ bbc's security correspondent. there is no getting around it, _ bbc's security correspondent. there is no getting around it, russia - bbc's security correspondent. there is no getting around it, russia is - is no getting around it, russia is losing a very high number of people. that isjust the losing a very high number of people. that is just the people killed, losing a very high number of people. that isjust the people killed, on top of that you have wounded, desertion and people who have been taken out of combat in one way or another. afghanistan, which you covered for a long time, in the space of ten years the soviets lost around 15,000. now, it looks like the russians have lost half that many in the space of one month of fighting. this is huge numbers of attrition for them. they can resupply, regenerate, they are calling up reserves, they are getting chechens and syrians to come and join the battle, but the ukrainians have fought far harder and more effectively than anybody expected. and more effectively than anybody exected. ~ ., and more effectively than anybody exected. ~ ., , and more effectively than anybody exected. ~ . , ~ expected. what can we believe? are the russians — expected. what can we believe? are the russians indeed _ expected. what can we believe? are the russians indeed moving - expected. what can we believe? are the russians indeed moving back- expected. what can we believe? are l the russians indeed moving back from kyiv or is that also a little bit of wishful thinking? i kyiv or is that also a little bit of wishful thinking?— wishful thinking? i think the russians have _
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wishful thinking? i think the russians have had - wishful thinking? i think the russians have had an - wishful thinking? i think the i russians have had an outbreak wishful thinking? i think the - russians have had an outbreak of reality, reality check. they have bitten off more than they can chew by trying to take the whole of ukraine. it is obvious what their plan was at beginning, they aim to do a shock advance, surround and capture the capital, kyiv and within days the government would collapse, fall awfully and they would install some kind of pro—moscow government. but they haven't. they have made territorial gains in the south. they are advancing north out of crimea, linking up with their forces in the donbas. that will give them quite a strong position at the negotiating table. is strong position at the negotiating table. , ., ., , ., strong position at the negotiating table. , ., .,, ., ., ,, table. is it reasonable to assume that putin isn't _ table. is it reasonable to assume that putin isn't yet _ table. is it reasonable to assume that putin isn't yet at _ table. is it reasonable to assume that putin isn't yet at the - table. is it reasonable to assume | that putin isn't yet at the position where he thinks, i have got to cut and run, i have got to make the best of my winnings and the worst of my losses? , , ., ~' losses? definitely not. i think he is re losses? definitely not. i think he is pretty cross — losses? definitely not. i think he is pretty cross with _ losses? definitely not. i think he is pretty cross with the _ losses? definitely not. i think hej is pretty cross with the so-called is pretty cross with the so—called intelligence he was given at the
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beginning. this is the problem with autocrats, you have met and interviewed loads of them in your time. people don't speak truth to power and i think with tooting, he was told by his intelligence chiefs, this will be a walkover, they will welcome you with open arms. of course, that is not the case. the ukrainian army is in a far stronger position today than it was in 2014. they are running low on supplies and if those supply lines from the west are cut, they will be in trouble. they are running low on diesel and food but the one thing they are not running low on is morale. that is something the russians do not have, a lot of them don't know why they are there and they have been poorly led, poorly run and their use of fire and manoeuvre is nonexistent. they failed to do combined arms warfare, the infantry, artillery, drones, helicopters and they work in concert. the ukrainians, who are far
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swifter and in much smaller numbers, but they have been able to pick them off in these heavy, lumbering convoys, attacking them at night and then vanishing into the woods. forgive me, that is not ukrainian propaganda, that is genuinely happening?— propaganda, that is genuinely haueninu? ., . ., happening? you are quite right to ask that because _ happening? you are quite right to ask that because this _ happening? you are quite right to ask that because this is _ happening? you are quite right to ask that because this is an - ask that because this is an information war as much as a kinetic war. the russians have destroyed quite a lot of ukraine's infrastructure. they have these precision guided missiles that they can send into the west of the country where most people thought they were safe. we country where most people thought they were safe-— they were safe. we have seen how russia in syria, _ they were safe. we have seen how russia in syria, for _ they were safe. we have seen how russia in syria, for instance - they were safe. we have seen how russia in syria, for instance has i russia in syria, for instance has kind of pulled its troops back and just pounded city after city, after city with often pretty disgusting weapons as well as just the usual ones, is that the future of this war? it ones, is that the future of this war? , , , , , ,
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war? it is but the present is is in kharkiv and _ war? it is but the present is is in kharkiv and mariupol. _ war? it is but the present is is in kharkiv and mariupol. mariupol. war? it is but the present is is in i kharkiv and mariupol. mariupol will go down in history as debatably the most bombed city in europe since the second world war. if you take an enemy for the russians that is as motivated as the ukrainians are, where you have to who have never touched a weapon in their life, taking up arms and putting machine guns in the back of their pick—up trucks, they will fight for every street. ratherthan trucks, they will fight for every street. rather than go through those streets they would rather pummel it with artillery, rockets, drones and missiles. what they are doing is almost like a medieval tactic of surrounding these cities, cutting them off from fuel, heating, electricity, water, communications in some places and making life absolutely miserable for the inhabitants and then say, we will allow a humanitarian corridor. if allow a humanitarian corridor. if you are forced to make a judgment, who is winning? you are forced to make a 'udgment, who is winningafi
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you are forced to make a 'udgment, who is wihhihgafi who is winning? nobody. if russia holds out, time _ who is winning? nobody. if russia holds out, time is _ who is winning? nobody. if russia holds out, time is probably - who is winning? nobody. if russia holds out, time is probably on i holds out, time is probably on russia's side, it depends how many casualties they are prepared to take. there may come a time when the ukrainian government faced a terrible choice of, do they soothe for peace and accept the loss of the donbas and crimea in order to save kyiv and other cities? do they carry on fighting? that tough choice may be coming down the line. president biden be coming down the line. president iioiden whipped _ be coming down the line. president iioiden whipped up _ be coming down the line. president biden whipped up a _ be coming down the line. president biden whipped up a storm - be coming down the line. president biden whipped up a storm the i be coming down the line. president| biden whipped up a storm the other day with his off—the—cuff remark which seem to call for the overthrow of vladimir putin. american officials instantly rushed around saying that regime change wasn't american policy. but how much damage has this latest biden misstatement done? anthony zurcher is the bbc�*s us political analyst. i done? anthony zurcher is the bbc's us political analyst.—
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us political analyst. i think the american public, _ us political analyst. i think the american public, they - us political analyst. i think the american public, they look- us political analyst. i think the american public, they look at i american public, they look at biden's comments and the attempts to walk back from the administration as a sign of chaos in american foreign policy. american foreign policy is not on sure footing, which is not helpful for what the united states is trying to do. although to be perfectly honest, the american public, the people who followed joe biden over his career, no he has a propensity for mistakes, they have seen it before. they have seen him occasionally say things that were unscripted and maybe got him in some hot water. and often times, there is a kernel of truth, a kernel of evidence that is wherejoe biden's heart is when he says these things and that is what you are seeing here with his comments over vladimir putin, two. {iii with his comments over vladimir putin, two-— with his comments over vladimir putin, two. , , putin, two. of course, you can bet that 'ust putin, two. of course, you can bet that just about _ putin, two. of course, you can bet thatjust about every _ putin, two. of course, you can bet thatjust about every one - putin, two. of course, you can bet thatjust about every one of i putin, two. of course, you can bet thatjust about every one of those | that just about every one of those western european leaders who are so nervous about it, actually does think the same thing it's just that
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they feel it is better left unsaid? a desperate vladimir putin and an unpredicted vladimir putin, one who feels threatened by the west is one who could intentionally or not escalate this military situation to something that nato does not want. you don't want him to feel like the west wants him removed from power because a person who is desperate to hang onto power can do things that are dangerous. i think there is also concern when you look at the united states and calling for regime change in russia, that is counter—productive. the people who may be organising to protest vladimir putin don't want to be labelled as american patsies, they don't want to be seen as pawns for the american government, so i think in a state department in particular, they would prefer the united states let things run its course. it is let things run its course. it is hard to see _ let things run its course. it is hard to see any _ let things run its course. it is hard to see any way - let things run its course. it is hard to see any way out i let things run its course. it is hard to see any way out of this war
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that doesn't end up with russia taking a larger slice of ukraine, even than it has already got. can the united states live with that? tho, the united states live with that? lot of the people in the biden administration where in the barack 0bama administration eight years ago when russia invaded crimea. a lot of them feel like the united states response wasn't forceful enough so i think there are a lot of people in the foreign policy establishment now he were concerned, whatever happens, whatever resolution would serve as further encouragement somewhere down the line. ~ ., ., further encouragement somewhere down the line. ., ., , further encouragement somewhere down theline. ., ., , the line. what are people saying about his presidency _ the line. what are people saying about his presidency in - the line. what are people saying about his presidency in the i the line. what are people saying i about his presidency in the united states? has this week and him or is it, as you were saying earlier, they are saying, that isjoe biden for you? are saying, that is joe biden for ou? ., ., , ., . you? the ma'ority of the american hublic you? the ma'ority of the american puhiio ooos — you? the majority of the american public does not _ you? the majority of the american public does not support _ you? the majority of the american public does not support biden's i public does not support biden's presidency right now. if you thought there was going to be a rally round
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there was going to be a rally round the flag, rally round the leader moment, there was a bump in his ratings shortly after the invasion but those numbers are dropping again. if you look atjoe biden's foreign policy and his standing with the american public over the course of his presidency, the big drop happened last summer and it happened after afghanistan. the us withdrawal from afghanistan and the chaotic way it happened, that really did a lot to puncture the view that biden was a competent leader on the world stage, that his foreign policy was being handled smoothly and professionally. the being handled smoothly and professionally.— being handled smoothly and professionally. the pictures of anti-war demonstrations i professionally. the pictures of anti-war demonstrations in i professionally. the pictures of i anti-war demonstrations in russia anti—war demonstrations in russia which we see tend to give us the impression that opposition to the vote is a lot more widespread than it actually is. most russians, particularly older ones, just get
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the government line and give them for their support. although the news about casualties is starting to spread, a disproportionately large number of russian soldiers in ukraine come from remote areas of russia. so what do the vast majority of russians hear about the war? 0lga of russians hear about the war? 0lga of the bbc russian service. that of russians hear about the war? olga of the bbc russian service.— of the bbc russian service. at the moment we _ of the bbc russian service. at the moment we see _ of the bbc russian service. at the moment we see that _ of the bbc russian service. at the moment we see that it _ of the bbc russian service. at the moment we see that it is - of the bbc russian service. at the moment we see that it is not i of the bbc russian service. at the | moment we see that it is not easy, but i cannot say the crisis and sanctions are hitting very hard. we see there is a lot of panic buying, thatis see there is a lot of panic buying, that is for sure. they are out of sugar, there are literally fights in shops for sugar. their life has always been hard and theyjust keep struggling. it always been hard and they 'ust keep stru~ iilin. ., , �* always been hard and they 'ust keep stru~ilin. ., , �* ., struggling. it doesn't sound, from what ou struggling. it doesn't sound, from what you are _ struggling. it doesn't sound, from what you are saying, _ struggling. it doesn't sound, from what you are saying, there - struggling. it doesn't sound, from what you are saying, there is i struggling. it doesn't sound, from what you are saying, there is any | what you are saying, there is any real great pressure on vladimir putin to say, stop the four because
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we are suffering, people haven't got to that stage yet? —— stop the war. i'm not sure he's ready to listen to them. in the past we have seen people protesting on various matters. we haven't seen evidence it influenced decisions of mr putin. secondly, it has had to evaluate how many russians are against the wall. the kremlin likes to underline that 70, 70 5% of the population support, as they call it, special operation in ukraine. they don't even call it of all. it depends how you ask those questions and at the moment they are no independent polling companies in russia. 0ne no independent polling companies in russia. one is there but it is facing tremendous troubles. 0thers facing tremendous troubles. others are connected to the kremlin to a certain degree. whoever calls this
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0vo can face serious penalties. mothers, parents of soldiers who were killed and injured must be hearing about that. you must know individually if your son has been killed? ., , ., ., killed? some mothers have got the traiic killed? some mothers have got the tra . ic news killed? some mothers have got the tragic news and _ killed? some mothers have got the tragic news and their— killed? some mothers have got the tragic news and their sons - killed? some mothers have got the tragic news and their sons came i killed? some mothers have got the i tragic news and their sons came back in coffins. some don't have the news for weeks, in coffins. some don't have the news forweeks, because in coffins. some don't have the news for weeks, because if their son is not an officer, if he is a private, for example, they were stripped of their phones when they entered ukraine. it is really hard for them to call back. we spoke to a few mothers and they were completely believing that russia made a pre—emptive strike to prevent an attack from ukraine which was imminent. that is what they believe and that is why they are very angry and that is why they are very angry and they ask for even harsher actions from russia because they believe this could have saved their sons. ., . , . . �* , believe this could have saved their sons. ., . , .. �*, sons. how much is the bbc's message, the message — sons. how much is the bbc's message, the message you _ sons. how much is the bbc's message, the message you and _ sons. how much is the bbc's message, the message you and your— sons. how much is the bbc's message, the message you and your colleagues l the message you and your colleagues are sending out, how much does that
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get through to people?— get through to people? during the first da s get through to people? during the first days and _ get through to people? during the first days and during _ get through to people? during the first days and during the _ get through to people? during the first days and during the first i get through to people? during the | first days and during the first week of the war the numbers were through the roof. people strived to go to the roof. people strived to go to the website and social media for information. then our website got blocked but we still see that our numbers are rising, we still see people are trying to get access to the information. we also see that in the information. we also see that in the polls. if you look to the pro—kremlin polls, they show younger people, the majority of them, they don't support the war and it is the older generation who don't know how to get to the alternative sources of information, they support the war. is it your feeling of course, you know i am just asking you really for your instinct, that this will all build up until the point where vladimir putin has to call it quits? for this war? no one really wanted
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it, no one requested it from him, it was entirely his decision. so i am afraid it can stop only when it is “p afraid it can stop only when it is up to him to stop it. india is playing a cautious game over the ukraine four, abstaining in the un vote at the start of the invasion and keeping pretty quiet about it ever since. sure, russia and india have been on close terms since the 1950s, but is there more to it than that? this man from the bbc's delhi bureau. it to it than that? this man from the bbc's delhi bureau.— to it than that? this man from the bbc's delhi bureau. it appears india is walkini bbc's delhi bureau. it appears india is walking a — bbc's delhi bureau. it appears india is walking a diplomatic _ bbc's delhi bureau. it appears india is walking a diplomatic tightrope, i is walking a diplomatic tightrope, even though it has advocated a ceasefire and has urged all parties concerned to resolve the issue through diplomacy and talking. indians cannot be seen to be siding with anyone, as they have strong
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ties with russia, with ukraine and of course, the rest of the western world. {iii of course, the rest of the western world. . ., , ., of course, the rest of the western world. _, , ., , of course, the rest of the western world. , ., , ., , world. of course, india is fairly stronil world. of course, india is fairly strongly dependent _ world. of course, india is fairly strongly dependent on - world. of course, india is fairly strongly dependent on russia | world. of course, india is fairly l strongly dependent on russia in terms of weapon supplies, isn't it? absolutely, india cannot, many people say they cannot condemn russia openly. most of the military hardware and india are russian—made and that is why india is taking a stand which is not antagonising, seemingly antagonising russia. 0n the other hand, india is slightly dependent on ukraine as well for military hardware. the mainstream media, the — military hardware. the mainstream media, the line _ military hardware. the mainstream media, the line they _ military hardware. the mainstream media, the line they are _ military hardware. the mainstream media, the line they are taking i military hardware. the mainstream media, the line they are taking is l media, the line they are taking is also the government line, we shouldn't have favourites in this war, is that right? if shouldn't have favourites in this war, is that right?— shouldn't have favourites in this war, is that right? if you actually look at the _ war, is that right? if you actually look at the indian _ war, is that right? if you actually look at the indian language i war, is that right? if you actually look at the indian language and l look at the indian language and mainstream news channels, you may
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feel that it is in line with the coverage in the western media. there is social media, there are lots of groups where we hear different kinds of noises. they like bold leaders, they like leaders who can rule with a firm hand. they like mr putin, thatis a firm hand. they like mr putin, that is why he seems to be popular here. there is an anti—western thought which goes unreported largely. thought which goes unreported lariel . ., , thought which goes unreported lariel. .,, i. thought which goes unreported lariel. ., ., largely. people, you have said on social media _ largely. people, you have said on social media like _ largely. people, you have said on social media like him _ largely. people, you have said on social media like him as - largely. people, you have said on social media like him as a - largely. people, you have said on social media like him as a strong| social media like him as a strong figure but he is also regarded as a friend of india, isn't he? yes. friend of india, isn't he? yes, indeed. when _ friend of india, isn't he? yes, indeed. when he _ friend of india, isn't he? yes, indeed. when he was - friend of india, isn't he? yes, | indeed. when he was elected, friend of india, isn't he? ye: indeed. when he was elected, the president for the first time in the year 2000, president for the first time in the year2000, i president for the first time in the year 2000, i was reporting from moscow. i could feel there was a
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huge interest on mr putin and many of them wanted to hear his apparent taste of indian food. many people argue that western media has double standards. they endorsed the invasion of iraq and afghanistan, which you have covered very extensively. so they say that western powers invaded these two countries and the western media endorsed it. me countries and the western media endorsed it— countries and the western media endorsed it. . ., ., , ., endorsed it. we have got used to the idea, rightly — endorsed it. we have got used to the idea, rightly or _ endorsed it. we have got used to the idea, rightly or wrongly, _ endorsed it. we have got used to the idea, rightly or wrongly, that - endorsed it. we have got used to the idea, rightly or wrongly, that india i idea, rightly or wrongly, that india and china are in opposition to each other. is there any problem in the indian view of this that china is probably russia's greatest supporter?— probably russia's greatest su-horter? , ., . ., supporter? there is a concern, not 'ust supporter? there is a concern, not just china, — supporter? there is a concern, not just china, even _ supporter? there is a concern, not just china, even pakistan. -
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supporter? there is a concern, not just china, even pakistan. when i supporter? there is a concern, not i just china, even pakistan. when they visited russia, just as the invasion started, they appear to believe that russia will be needed when china and india come together on the negotiating table.- india come together on the negotiating table. india come together on the neiiotiatin table. , , negotiating table. during the past 16 months, thousands _ negotiating table. during the past 16 months, thousands of - negotiating table. during the past 16 months, thousands of people l negotiating table. during the past i 16 months, thousands of people have died in the vicious civil war in ethiopia and millions more are in dire need of food and water. every side has committed atrocities and it is as ugly a situation as anywhere on earth. now, hard work by the americans and others has brought a truce and hopes of something better. i talked to a correspondent from bbc
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africa. it i talked to a correspondent from bbc africa. , ., ., ., . africa. it is one of the most tragic humanitarian _ africa. it is one of the most tragic humanitarian stories _ africa. it is one of the most tragic humanitarian stories of— africa. it is one of the most tragic humanitarian stories of recent i humanitarian stories of recent years. it has been going on for almost 17 months and during this time we have been hearing reports of abuses, atrocities, killing of unarmed civilians and widespread use of sexual violence as a tactic of war and there are millions of people who are uprooted from their lives and they are in desperate need of aid, which is not getting through to them easily and smoothly and hundreds of thousands are currently facing famine. tooth? hundreds of thousands are currently facing famine-— facing famine. why did it happen in the first place? _ facing famine. why did it happen in the first place? war _ facing famine. why did it happen in the first place? war broke - facing famine. why did it happen in the first place? war broke out i facing famine. why did it happen in the first place? war broke out in i the first place? war broke out in november _ the first place? war broke out in november 2020 _ the first place? war broke out in november 2020 and _ the first place? war broke out in november 2020 and it _ the first place? war broke out in november 2020 and it came i the first place? war broke out in november 2020 and it came in i the first place? war broke out in i november 2020 and it came in the backdrop of months of simmering tension between the federal government, the central government thatis government, the central government that is based in addis ababa and the regional leaders of tigray state in
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the north. this is the most northern state of ethiopia and the leaders of that region, tplf for short, the country recently got a new prime minister and the tplf were sidelined from the central power. in 2020 the country were supposed to hold widely expected, highly anticipated general election but that was postponed due to the pandemic. and then the tplf accused the current prime minister of using the pandemic as a pretext to stay in power illegally. the truce that _ to stay in power illegally. the truce that just _ to stay in power illegally. the truce thatjust has _ to stay in power illegally. the truce thatjust has been announced, is it likely to have any effect? it is it likely to have any effect? ut
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seems we are in a sort of stalemate which we are not witnessing heavy ground fighting like it was in november, october. when the government said they were declaring a truce on humanitarian grounds and when the tplf said they were welcoming that decision, there was encouraging signs that the war would be heading towards a resolution. but there were tracks of aid that was stranded on the borders towards tigray and that has been cut off from aid since december. if the truce does get somewhere, what is your instinct about the future of the country as a whole? it is not going to be an easy conflict is solved. there are multiple actors beside the federal government and
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the tigrayan forces. the forces from eritrea were supporting the federal government. they have their own issues with ground forces because 20 years ago there was a war between ethiopia and eritrea. during that time these grudges and resentments between the tigrayans and the eritreans. also there is a dispute domestically between the tigray region and the border. but most importantly, a humanitarian truce means millions of people, the latest figure estimated 6 million people are in desperate need of aid. for them to be reached by the aid
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agencies, the first thing is a truce. , , ., ., , ., agencies, the first thing is a truce. ,, ., ., ., truce. the russian invasion of ukraine is _ truce. the russian invasion of ukraine is different _ truce. the russian invasion of ukraine is different from i truce. the russian invasion of| ukraine is different from most truce. the russian invasion of i ukraine is different from most roles in several respects. in particular, both sides were surprisingly quick to agree to peace talks. not that there's necessarily mean anything. for peace talks to produce a result, one side or the other is to realise it's on the ropes. so far, that is simply not happening. i hope you will be able to join me again for unspun world. until then, will be able to join me again for unspun world. untilthen, goodbye. still pretty cold out there today, not as cold as yesterday, the winds are less strong. showers in the
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forecast and some of them could be wintry but i think that winteryness will be confined to higher ground. these are the temperatures, between seven and 10 celsius, still below the average for the time of year and that wind being felt around the south—east of the country. but tonight the skies are going to be clear, the winds for light and it is going to be a very frosty night. in rural spots, temperatures could be as low as minus seven degrees first thing on sunday morning. you can see the frost, it quickly melts away and then we have got plenty of bright weather, but later in the morning and into the afternoon, it does look as though things will cloud over and turn damp across scotland and northern ireland. elsewhere, it should be dry. goodbye.
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