tv The Context with Christian Fraser BBC News June 20, 2022 9:00pm-10:01pm BST
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hello, i'm maryam moshiri. you're watching the context on bbc news. the biggest rail strikes in 30 years will go ahead this week — affecting passengers in england, scotland and wales after last ditch talks fails. the union says their pay is not keeping up with inlfation and want a 7% pay rise— the government accuses them of causing misery to millions of people. and chaos at airports around the world — in the us 19,000 flights have been cancelled in the last few days. and a new survey suggests three quarters of gen z & millienal workers hate phone calls — seeing them as aggressive and confrontational. tonight with the context, former conservative cabinet minister
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justine greening and former us government advisor hagar chemali who now hosts the political satire series oh my world. across england, scotland and wales — the biggest rail strikes in 30 years will go ahead this week after last ditch talks failed. services will run on a severely reduced timetable from this evening ahead of the national strike tomorrow. the three—day walkout on tuesday, thursday and saturday will cause disruption for the whole week. the rmt union says — some 50,000 railway workers are striking over pay, jobs and conditions. the secretary general of the rmt, mick lynch, warned there could be a series of strikes over the next few months. faced with such an aggressive agenda of cuts to jobs, conditions, pay and pensions,
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the rmt has no choice but to defend our members industrially. my message, mr speaker, to the workforce is straightforward, your union bosses have got you striking under false pretenses. both sides are miles apart on pay discussions with the unions thought to be asking for 7% and be employers offering a maximum of 3%. similar battle lines are being drawn across other industries, teachers unions are threatening to ballot for strike action and nhs workers are expecting their pay for later this week not to be anywhere near the rate of inflation. a summer of industrial dispute mayjust be getting started. let's bring in ben zaranko — who's an economist at the institute for fiscal studies. before we widen is to talk about inflation, the cost of living and the conundrum the treasury is facing, talk me through the basics of what is going on in terms of the
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rail strike. fist of what is going on in terms of the rail strike. �* u, of what is going on in terms of the rail strike. �* _, ., , ., rail strike. at the core of this are two related _ rail strike. at the core of this are two related but _ rail strike. at the core of this are two related but separate - rail strike. at the core of this are two related but separate issues, | rail strike. at the core of this are . two related but separate issues, the first is what happens to pay, as you mentioned, railway workers are being offered a pay award that is substantially below the rate of inflation they are facing this year, so those workers, their household budgets, the prices in shops will go up budgets, the prices in shops will go up faster than their wages and that is a real terms hit to their income. separately, there is an argument aboutjobs, network rail is seeking to make substantial savings and part of doing that is reducing headcount and the union is not too pleased about either of these things. the backdrop is that passenger numbers have dropped, people are using the railways less, revenue has fallen and the only way to reach square the circle is more money to come from central government, from the treasury, the only way both sides could be kept happy, but the treasury is reluctant to do that. it is a really tricky case, it could be
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just the start of a broader set of industry disputes, a broader set of arguments, that could drag on back into the autumn. the arguments, that could drag on back into the autumn.— into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that _ into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that the _ into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that the pay _ into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that the pay rises - into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that the pay rises that - into the autumn. the core of this is the fact that the pay rises that are l the fact that the pay rises that are being seen are not in line with what is being seen in terms of inflation on the treasury is worried about inflation going forward, this is a difficult time for the treasury, it has difficult decisions to make. there are no easy decisions here, the key thing we have got to bear in mind is we import lots of food and energy, the prices of those things has risen globally and it is a negative shock to our economy, we are poorer than we were. the government can protect some people from the pain but it cannot protect everyone from the pain forever and the question is how do you distribute that pain across people, places and across time and it is understandable that unions do not
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want their members to feel that pain, equally, if government wants to protect workers and offer them inflation matching pair was, it has to come from somewhere, savings and other parts of the budget or borrowing more or potentially cancelling some of the tax cuts, there is no easy way out here. i think that the treasury are trapped between a rock and hard place, on the one hand they might say we have looked to stump up extra cash, top up looked to stump up extra cash, top up ourspending looked to stump up extra cash, top up our spending plans because we would rather use the money for tax cuts, but if you do not give public sector workers pay that they see as adequate, you might see rising vacancy and troubles with recruitment, service quality depth and that will cost as well. there are no easy options. 5m? and that will cost as well. there are no easy options.— and that will cost as well. there are no easy options. stay with us, let me bring _ are no easy options. stay with us, let me bring in — are no easy options. stay with us, let me bring in our _ are no easy options. stay with us, let me bring in our panel. - are no easy options. stay with us, let me bring in our panel. justine, let me bring in our panel. justine, do you agree that these are difficult decisions or that the government is not making the decisions that it needs to? having been in the _
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decisions that it needs to? having been in the treasury, _ decisions that it needs to? having been in the treasury, it _ decisions that it needs to? having been in the treasury, it is - decisions that it needs to? having been in the treasury, it is a - decisions that it needs to? having been in the treasury, it is a tough j been in the treasury, it is a tough time _ been in the treasury, it is a tough time for— been in the treasury, it is a tough time for ministers right now, working _ time for ministers right now, working out what they are going to do, working out what they are going to do. but _ working out what they are going to do, but they do need to make some decisions and this government will need _ decisions and this government will need to— decisions and this government will need to have a plan. at the heart of the issue _ need to have a plan. at the heart of the issue on— need to have a plan. at the heart of the issue on strikes is this issue, this sense — the issue on strikes is this issue, this sense across many industries that inflation expectations are now being _ that inflation expectations are now being built in, so people are expecting a short—term inflation push. _ expecting a short—term inflation push, but — expecting a short—term inflation push, but now we are seeing much longer— push, but now we are seeing much longer term — push, but now we are seeing much longer term risks on inflation feeding — longer term risks on inflation feeding through for the first time really— feeding through for the first time really with this strike into wage push _ really with this strike into wage push inflation risks, that is the point _ push inflation risks, that is the point that— push inflation risks, that is the point that simon clarke, the treasury— point that simon clarke, the treasury minister was right in making — treasury minister was right in making today. the challenges that as things— making today. the challenges that as things stand, there is a real concern _ things stand, there is a real concern that the government is going into what— concern that the government is going into what could be a difficult period. _ into what could be a difficult period, with notjust the railway sector— period, with notjust the railway sector pressing for higher wages, potentially teachers, the nhs, without— potentially teachers, the nhs, without really a broader economic
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plan against which to make some of those _ plan against which to make some of those key— plan against which to make some of those keyjudgment calls and at the heart _ those keyjudgment calls and at the heart of this is the need to have a plan on _ heart of this is the need to have a plan on tackling inflation, in the short— plan on tackling inflation, in the short term,, but in the medium and longer— short term,, but in the medium and longer term, — short term,, but in the medium and longer term, a plan short term,, but in the medium and longerterm, a plan to short term,, but in the medium and longer term, a plan to address the fact that _ longer term, a plan to address the fact that we have very tired labour market _ fact that we have very tired labour market. that does not need to be the case: _ market. that does not need to be the case, at _ market. that does not need to be the case, at the _ market. that does not need to be the case, at the same time in this country— case, at the same time in this country we _ case, at the same time in this country we have people who cannot afford _ country we have people who cannot afford to _ country we have people who cannot afford to heat their homes, looking ahead _ afford to heat their homes, looking ahead to _ afford to heat their homes, looking ahead to the winter, cannot put food on the _ ahead to the winter, cannot put food on the table, we have a skills shortage _ on the table, we have a skills shortage as well and there is an urgent — shortage as well and there is an urgent need for the government to set out _ urgent need for the government to set out a _ urgent need for the government to set out a medium and long—term plan around _ set out a medium and long—term plan around education and skills and how it is actually going to fix that more — it is actually going to fix that more structural problem we have facing _ more structural problem we have facing our— more structural problem we have facing our economy.— more structural problem we have facing our economy. hagar, what is ha enin: facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in _ facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in the — facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in the us _ facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in the us in _ facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in the us in terms - facing our economy. hagar, what is happening in the us in terms of- happening in the us in terms of utilisation and the way in which the political movement in america views unions? ., , political movement in america views unions? . , political movement in america views unions? ., , ., unions? unions have never been more favoured or— unions? unions have never been more favoured or favourable _ unions? unions have never been more favoured or favourable since _ unions? unions have never been more favoured or favourable since the - favoured or favourable since the i9605~ — favoured or favourable since the i9605~ we — favoured or favourable since the i9605~ we are _ favoured or favourable since the 19605. we are seeing _ favoured or favourable since the 19605. we are seeing a -
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lacking. we have seen in the covid—19 pandemic, - lacking. we have seen in the covid—19 pandemic, i- lacking. we have seen in the covid—19 pandemic, i do- lacking. we have seen in the covid—19 pandemic, i do not| lacking. we have seen in the - covid—19 pandemic, i do not want to say the _ covid—19 pandemic, i do not want to say the post—pandemic— covid—19 pandemic, i do not want to say the post—pandemic era, - covid—19 pandemic, i do not want to say the post—pandemic era, but - covid—19 pandemic, i do not want to say the post—pandemic era, but a i say the post—pandemic era, but a little _ say the post—pandemic era, but a little bit _ say the post—pandemic era, but a little bit because _ say the post—pandemic era, but a little bit because things _ say the post—pandemic era, but a little bit because things have - little bit because things have opened — little bit because things have opened up _ little bit because things have opened up a _ little bit because things have opened up a lot, _ little bit because things have opened up a lot, but- little bit because things have opened up a lot, but there . little bit because things have i opened up a lot, but there has little bit because things have - opened up a lot, but there has been this large _ opened up a lot, but there has been this large push, _ opened up a lot, but there has been this large push, a _ opened up a lot, but there has been this large push, a spike, _ opened up a lot, but there has been this large push, a spike, in- opened up a lot, but there has been this large push, a spike, in the - this large push, a spike, in the first— this large push, a spike, in the first half— this large push, a spike, in the first half of— this large push, a spike, in the first half of this _ this large push, a spike, in the first half of this year, - this large push, a spike, in the first half of this year, to - this large push, a spike, in the first half of this year, to seek i first half of this year, to seek unions — first half of this year, to seek unions and _ first half of this year, to seek unions and to _ first half of this year, to seek unions and to unionise, - first half of this year, to seek unions and to unionise, we i first half of this year, to seek i unions and to unionise, we have first half of this year, to seek - unions and to unionise, we have seen with amazon, — unions and to unionise, we have seen with amazon, the _ unions and to unionise, we have seen with amazon, the google _ unions and to unionise, we have seen with amazon, the google parent - with amazon, the google parent company, — with amazon, the google parent company, starbucks, _ with amazon, the google parent company, starbucks, most- with amazon, the google parent. company, starbucks, most recently with amazon, the google parent - company, starbucks, most recently in apple, _ company, starbucks, most recently in apple, so _ company, starbucks, most recently in apple, so these — company, starbucks, most recently in apple, so these big _ company, starbucks, most recently in apple, so these big companies- company, starbucks, most recently in apple, so these big companies that. apple, so these big companies that are facing _ apple, so these big companies that are facing an — apple, so these big companies that are facing an effort _ apple, so these big companies that are facing an effort to _ apple, so these big companies that are facing an effort to unionise, - are facing an effort to unionise, both— are facing an effort to unionise, both because _ are facing an effort to unionise, both because of— are facing an effort to unionise, both because of the _ are facing an effort to unionise, both because of the political. both because of the political environment, _ both because of the political environment, with— both because of the politicalj environment, with president both because of the political- environment, with president biden saying _ environment, with president biden saying he _ environment, with president biden saying he will— environment, with president biden saying he will be _ environment, with president biden saying he will be the _ environment, with president biden saying he will be the most - environment, with president biden l saying he will be the most pro—union president _ saying he will be the most pro—union president ever. — saying he will be the most pro—union president ever, and _ saying he will be the most pro—union president ever, and in— saying he will be the most pro—union president ever, and in the _ saying he will be the most pro—union president ever, and in the results. president ever, and in the results and consequences of _ president ever, and in the results and consequences of the - president ever, and in the results. and consequences of the pandemic. how does _ and consequences of the pandemic. how does pei — and consequences of the pandemic. how does pei differ— and consequences of the pandemic. how does pei differ between - and consequences of the pandemic. how does pei differ between the - how does pei differ between the public and the private sector and do you think that might actually inform the decision to some extent, ben? i think it has to, but some of what justine said saying that the treasury are concerned about inflation becoming embedded in the
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economy and built into expectations, the treasury are right to be concerned, the question i would ask is whether public sector pay policy is whether public sector pay policy is the right tool to deal with the problem, the bank of england are responsible for inflation and the policy should be ensuring that the right number of people with the right number of people with the right skills in the right place to deliver the services on which we all rely on when you're thinking about that, what becomes really important is the outside options and if people are waking up stain on the job is the outside options and if people are waking up stain on thejob in government or in a school or prison or nhs services, or do i look elsewhere, what is happening to pay elsewhere, what is happening to pay elsewhere will be a key consideration and pay in the private sector is currently galloping ahead of the public sector. public sector workers had it better over the past 12 years. there has got to be to a limit as to how much you can squeeze relative to the private sector before you start causing real
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problems. public sector workers are some of the most unionised in the uk and that is perhaps why you're seeing some of these union disputes there first. �* . ~ seeing some of these union disputes there first. �* ., ,, , ., there first. ben, thank you for joining us- _ at least rail travellers in the uk have the certainty that there are no trains and there is garanteed disruption. for global air travellers there is just uncertainty. in the us there were a slew of weekend cancellations and delays throughout the country. since thursday, roughly over 19,000 flights have been canceled or delayed. here in the uk, heathrow has asked airlines flying from two of its terminals to cut 10 percent of flights today. these pictures were taken at heathrow over the weekend, following problems processing baggage. and in europe, amsterdam's schiphol airport has announced a 16% cut to its schedules — blaming a shortage of security workers0n sunday alone, more than 4,200 us flights were delayed and nearly 900
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were canceled, as of 7 pm et, according to flightaware, which tracks flights in real time. let's cross to florida and speak to cyndi williams who is a travel industry expert. took me through, why is this happening now. latte took me through, why is this happening now— took me through, why is this happening now. took me through, why is this hauenina now. ~ . . , , . happening now. we are really seen a tonne of staffing _ happening now. we are really seen a tonne of staffing issues _ happening now. we are really seen a tonne of staffing issues with - happening now. we are really seen a tonne of staffing issues with the - tonne of staffing issues with the airlines and through the pandemic pilot were encouraged to take retirement early and they have not been able to re—staff, notjust at the pilot level but with flight crews, ground crews and the demand for travel returned so quickly, as things have started to open up, and the loosening of the mask mandates, people are wanting to travel. we have seen the demand for travel right without being able to re—stab at this pre—pandemic levels. we have one of our busiest days ever on friday with 2.4 million people being processed three us airports last weekend and we could not oppose, there was not enough staff and if there was not enough staff and if there was not enough staff and if there was a delay or breakdown, what
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happens? i was on a flight last week and it was an audit little light bulb that did not work on the aeroplane and it caused a ripple effect where our flight was delayed, luckily it was not cancelled, but they did not have anyone to change they did not have anyone to change the light bulb, so it really because the light bulb, so it really because the cancellation in my case and so many others. we are dealing with the airlines ability to re—staff fast enough to meet consumer demand. some airlines are doing — enough to meet consumer demand. some airlines are doing better _ enough to meet consumer demand. some airlines are doing better than others and there are ones that you would advise advising and some airports as well?— would advise advising and some airports as well? absolutely, delta has seen the _ airports as well? absolutely, delta has seen the biggest _ airports as well? absolutely, delta has seen the biggest impact - airports as well? absolutely, delta has seen the biggest impact with l has seen the biggest impact with around 7% of their flights being impacted recently. united is following them and we have had some weather delays in the mix and that is difficult, you cannot predict the weather, but we see big impacts to airports like new york, charlotte, atlanta, even boston was on the map yesterday, so a lot of the major airports are being impacted and we are a couple of weeks away from a
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bank holiday weekend in the us with the 4th ofjuly, and we are encouraging our clients to understand, going into these higher demand weeks, please, if you can, use a travel agent that can help you navigate these rough waters and also ensure your vacation, make sure your vacation is protected with some type of travel insurance and also be flexible, that is so important as you travel in these times, until things get back to normal situation. good advice. let me bring in our panel, jesting, a lot of these airlines and airports, many people watching will think, they have known this was going to happen, why have they not prepared?— this was going to happen, why have they not prepared? exactly. the big issue here is _ they not prepared? exactly. the big issue here is just _ they not prepared? exactly. the big issue here is just not what - they not prepared? exactly. the big issue here isjust not what has - issue here isjust not what has happened, it is how the airlines and airports _ happened, it is how the airlines and airports have dealt with it for those — airports have dealt with it for those many passengers who have had their cancelled or their flights cancelled, they have turned up and been _ cancelled, they have turned up and been on _ cancelled, they have turned up and been on a — cancelled, they have turned up and been on a plane in some and then
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being— been on a plane in some and then being told — been on a plane in some and then being told to go home. this is not 'u5t being told to go home. this is not just the _ being told to go home. this is not just the first time we have seen this, _ just the first time we have seen this, we — just the first time we have seen this, we saw during the pandemic when _ this, we saw during the pandemic when people had flights cancelled, they were given vouchers and refunds and from _ they were given vouchers and refunds and from a _ they were given vouchers and refunds and from a uk perspective, often people _ and from a uk perspective, often people will be flying from a local airport _ people will be flying from a local airport where they might be just one of the _ airport where they might be just one of the carriers and if it is one of the carriers that has not prepared properly— the carriers that has not prepared properly and i5 the carriers that has not prepared properly and is in all sorts of trouble, _ properly and is in all sorts of trouble, they will always have a lot of other choice around them to be able to— of other choice around them to be able to simply get a different flight — able to simply get a different flight to the destination they want. ithink— flight to the destination they want. i think these issues, i would like to see _ i think these issues, i would like to see the — i think these issues, i would like to see the competition and markets authority _ to see the competition and markets authority actually look at these in the round, — authority actually look at these in the round, consumers have been let down, _ the round, consumers have been let down, i_ the round, consumers have been let down, ithink— the round, consumers have been let down, i think by the travel industry. _ down, i think by the travel industry, particularly airlines and airports — industry, particularly airlines and airports for too long and i think we need _ airports for too long and i think we need to— airports for too long and i think we need to take a very clear look and see how— need to take a very clear look and see how we — need to take a very clear look and see how we can deal with some of the 5ee how we can deal with some of the structural— see how we can deal with some of the structural issues that means that every— structural issues that means that every time — structural issues that means that every time there is a problem, passengers seem to get a really raw
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deal~ _ passengers seem to get a really raw deal, , passengers seem to get a really raw deal. , , . ~' ,. passengers seem to get a really raw deal. , , ., ,, y., ., ., deal. justine, thank you and also thank ou deal. justine, thank you and also thank you temp _ deal. justine, thank you and also thank you temp two. _ deal. justine, thank you and also thank you temp two. -- - deal. justine, thank you and also thank you temp two. -- cyndi. . downing street have confirmed that the prime minister's team spoke to the times newspaper before they withdrew a story about his wife carriejohnson. the times published claims that borisjohnson had suggested hiring her as his chief of staff when he was foreign secretary while they were in a relationship, and alleged advisers blocked it when they heard of the plans. the story was later withdrawn from further editions of the newspaper. let's bring our political correspondent helen catt. tell us more. these claims were published in saturday's times on page five in a short column, but it was later that the publication, after publication, the story was withdrawn from later editions of the paper and it was not published online. the prime minister's spokesperson confirmed that number 10 had spoken to the newspaper before and after the story was published and said it had been made
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clear by his political colleagues in number 10, clear by his political colleagues in number10, he is clear by his political colleagues in number 10, he is a civil servant, so the political equivalent of him at number 10 and also the spokesperson for carriejohnson that story not for carrie johnson that story not true. two sources have told the bbc that boris johnson floated the true. two sources have told the bbc that borisjohnson floated the idea with members of his team that carrie johnson, now his wife, a former head of communications for the conservative party, could be employed as a chief of staff back when he was the foreign secretary. sources said that multiple aides had advised against it. the journalist who wrote the story spoke to the new european paper and said he stood by the story 100% and claimed that number 10 and the story 100% and claimed that number10 and mrs the story 100% and claimed that number 10 and mrsjohnson did not deny the story 48 hours before it was published on or afterwards. helen, thank you. justine, i have to bring you in as a former conservative cabinet minister, do you believe this could have happened? i you believe this could have happened?— you believe this could have happened? you believe this could have ha ened? ~ y., ., ., ., happened? i think you have to go based on what _ happened? i think you have to go based on what has _ happened? i think you have to go based on what has been - happened? i think you have to go based on what has been said, -
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happened? i think you have to go i based on what has been said, there was a _ based on what has been said, there was a story— based on what has been said, there was a story clearly printed, it was then— was a story clearly printed, it was then removed and simon walters i5 was a story clearly printed, it was then removed and simon walters is a highly— then removed and simon walters is a highly respected journalist, who for many— highly respected journalist, who for many years has broken probably some of the _ many years has broken probably some of the biggest stories in fleet street— of the biggest stories in fleet street and i do think there are some questions _ street and i do think there are some questions around exactly what happened here and i think we all expect, — happened here and i think we all expect, of— happened here and i think we all expect, of course, numberio press officers— expect, of course, numberio press officers to— expect, of course, numberio press officers to talk to journalists about — officers to talk to journalists about stories before they are published, it is extremely unusual to have _ published, it is extremely unusual to have a — published, it is extremely unusual to have a story published and then removed _ to have a story published and then removed and the story itself is controversial, because it would have been entirely inappropriate for boris — been entirely inappropriate for borisjohnson, as foreign secretary, to have _ borisjohnson, as foreign secretary, to have employed her as his chief of staff, _ to have employed her as his chief of staff, she _ to have employed her as his chief of staff, she was in a relationship with— staff, she was in a relationship with him — staff, she was in a relationship with him in that way.— staff, she was in a relationship with him in that way. justine, thank ou. they may not have been in the workplace long, but our youngest and least experienced colleagues are already saying they feel presured and out right exhausted. gen z employees— up to the age of 25—, are now reporting the highest rates of burn out, 59% of them say so.
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and when it comes to what is causing so much stress — well 3 quarters of millenials and gen z employees in a recent survey claimed they hated phone calls, and see them as aggressive and confrontational, much prefering text, email or social media for communication. let's bring in someone who is familiar with all of this and is working to reduce some of that burnout, co founder of gen z startup ninety eight celine chai. it is good to speak to you, celine. talk me through this burn—out, what is going on with this generation that they find life at the moment very difficult. that they find life at the moment very difficult-— that they find life at the moment very difficult. thank you for having me. very difficult. thank you for having me- there — very difficult. thank you for having me. there are _ very difficult. thank you for having me. there are a _ very difficult. thank you for having me. there are a lot _ very difficult. thank you for having me. there are a lot of— very difficult. thank you for having me. there are a lot of things - very difficult. thank you for having | me. there are a lot of things going on with gen z, a lot of us are entering the workforce either during the pandemic or after the pandemic and it has been challenging, work has shifted online, our company is
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fully remote, we work across two different time zones, everything is online, we host parties and meetings online, we host parties and meetings online, it can definitely feel fatigued to be on zoom all the time, but as long as companies are aware of how to be flexible and make it as accessible to those in gen z to do their best work, but also take a here and there are make sure that everyone has their screen time keeps them comfortable. what them comfortable. what about that anxiety over — them comfortable. what about that anxiety over phone _ them comfortable. what about that anxiety over phone calls? _ them comfortable. what about that anxiety over phone calls? i - them comfortable. what about that anxiety over phone calls? i think i them comfortable. what about that anxiety over phone calls? i think a l anxiety over phone calls? i think a -hone anxiety over phone calls? i think a hone call anxiety over phone calls? i think a phone call would _ anxiety over phone calls? i think a phone call would be _ anxiety over phone calls? i think a phone call would be my _ anxiety over phone calls? i think a phone call would be my last - anxiety over phone calls? i think a | phone call would be my last option. why do you not like phone calls? what is it about them that makes you anxious? . , ., ., what is it about them that makes you anxious? . , . ., , ., anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there _ anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there is _ anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there is just _ anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there isjust a _ anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there isjust a lot - anxious? that is a great question, i feel like there isjust a lot of - feel like there is just a lot of communication that can be done via text or different messaging, a lot of communication can just be done
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nonverbally. it saves time, it is more efficient, phone calls are great occasionally, but texts are the way to go. great occasionally, but texts are the way to go— great occasionally, but texts are thewa toao. . the way to go. what is your company doinu to the way to go. what is your company doing to help — the way to go. what is your company doing to help other _ the way to go. what is your company doing to help other members - the way to go. what is your company doing to help other members of - the way to go. what is your company doing to help other members of gen | the way to go. what is your company. doing to help other members of gen 2 doing to help other members of gen z in a move through the workplace? latte in a move through the workplace? we are a in a move through the workplace? - are a company founded by those in gen z are mainly employed those people, really believe in gen z talent at the future generation to come and we understand that technology has been a huge part of our lives and we move really quickly through tech, remote working is very fluid and efficient for us, we all grew up with technology, social media comes second nature, we are also understanding if we see people who have three hours of meetings back to back, we definitely take the initiative to say, give them a break. just making sure that people feel comfortable and feel good working, because online and remote
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working, because online and remote working is definitely tiring. let working, because online and remote working is definitely tiring.— working is definitely tiring. let us brina in working is definitely tiring. let us bring in our _ working is definitely tiring. let us bring in our panel, _ working is definitely tiring. let us bring in our panel, i _ working is definitely tiring. let us bring in our panel, i want - working is definitely tiring. let us bring in our panel, i want to - working is definitely tiring. let usj bring in our panel, i want to bring in hagar, a lot of your audience are gen z and you have a lot of experience, what is it that you think is so punishing for them in the workplace?— the workplace? there are a few factors, the workplace? there are a few factors. i _ the workplace? there are a few factors. l was — the workplace? there are a few factors, i wasjust _ the workplace? there are a few factors, i wasjust smiling - the workplace? there are a few. factors, i wasjust smiling through all factors, iwasjust smiling through all of— factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, — factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, because _ factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, because gen _ factors, iwasjust smiling through all of that, because gen 2- factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, because gen 2 i5 - factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, because gen 2 i5 and l factors, i wasjust smiling through all of that, because gen 2 i5 and il all of that, because gen 2 i5 and i probably— all of that, because gen 2 i5 and i probably should _ all of that, because gen 2 i5 and i probably should not say - all of that, because gen 2 i5 and i probably should not say this, - all of that, because gen 2 i5 and i| probably should not say this, they are my— probably should not say this, they are my favourite _ probably should not say this, they are my favourite generation, - probably should not say this, they| are my favourite generation, most probably should not say this, they i are my favourite generation, most of my team _ are my favourite generation, most of my team is _ are my favourite generation, most of my team is gen— are my favourite generation, most of my team is gen 2_ are my favourite generation, most of my team is gen 2 and _ are my favourite generation, most of my team is gen 2 and the _ are my favourite generation, most of my team is gen 2 and the vast- my team is gen 2 and the vast majority— my team is gen 2 and the vast majority of— my team is gen 2 and the vast majority of my— my team is gen 2 and the vast majority of my team _ my team is gen 2 and the vast majority of my team and - my team is gen 2 and the vast majority of my team and my. my team is gen 2 and the vast- majority of my team and my interns are all— majority of my team and my interns are all gen — majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2— majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and _ majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and i _ majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and i have _ majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and i have been- majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and i have been with l majority of my team and my interns are all gen 2 and i have been with a j are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of— are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them — are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them since _ are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them since they _ are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them since they were - are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them since they were in - are all gen 2 and i have been with a lot of them since they were in highl lot of them since they were in high school~ _ lot of them since they were in high school~ they — lot of them since they were in high school. they are _ lot of them since they were in high school. they are remarkable - lot of them since they were in high. school. they are remarkable because they have _ school. they are remarkable because they have a _ school. they are remarkable because they have a very— school. they are remarkable because they have a very hard _ school. they are remarkable because they have a very hard work— school. they are remarkable because they have a very hard work ethic, - school. they are remarkable because they have a very hard work ethic, in i they have a very hard work ethic, in my experience _ they have a very hard work ethic, in my experience at _ they have a very hard work ethic, in my experience at least, _ they have a very hard work ethic, in my experience at least, and - they have a very hard work ethic, in my experience at least, and they. they have a very hard work ethic, in. my experience at least, and they see the world, _ my experience at least, and they see the world, their— my experience at least, and they see the world, their perspective - my experience at least, and they see the world, their perspective of- my experience at least, and they see the world, their perspective of how. the world, their perspective of how they see _ the world, their perspective of how they see the — the world, their perspective of how they see the world _ the world, their perspective of how they see the world matches - the world, their perspective of how they see the world matches very. the world, their perspective of how. they see the world matches very well with my _ they see the world matches very well with my media — they see the world matches very well with my media brand _ they see the world matches very well with my media brand because - they see the world matches very well with my media brand because they. with my media brand because they like mission —ba5ed _ with my media brand because they like mission —ba5ed work, - with my media brand because they like mission —ba5ed work, they. with my media brand because theyl like mission —ba5ed work, they like social— like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, — like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, they _ like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, they are _ like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, they are very - like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, they are very aware . like mission —ba5ed work, they like social good, they are very aware of| social good, they are very aware of global— social good, they are very aware of global issues — social good, they are very aware of global issues and _ social good, they are very aware of global issues and how _ social good, they are very aware of global issues and how they- social good, they are very aware of global issues and how they affect l global issues and how they affect people _ global issues and how they affect people on— global issues and how they affect people on a — global issues and how they affect people on a real— global issues and how they affect people on a real and _ global issues and how they affect people on a real and human- global issues and how they affect i people on a real and human basis. that is— people on a real and human basis. that is a _ people on a real and human basis. that is a big — people on a real and human basis.
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that is a big part— people on a real and human basis. that is a big part of— people on a real and human basis. that is a big part of what - people on a real and human basis. that is a big part of what i- people on a real and human basis. that is a big part of what i do- people on a real and human basis. that is a big part of what i do is. that is a big part of what i do is to share — that is a big part of what i do is to share stories _ that is a big part of what i do is to share stories to _ that is a big part of what i do is to share stories to effect - that is a big part of what i do isl to share stories to effect change for the _ to share stories to effect change for the better. _ to share stories to effect change forthe better. i— to share stories to effect change for the better. i have _ to share stories to effect change for the better. i have an - to share stories to effect change | for the better. i have an amazing experience. _ for the better. i have an amazing experience, but _ for the better. i have an amazing experience, but i— for the better. i have an amazing experience, but i have _ for the better. i have an amazing experience, but i have to- for the better. i have an amazing experience, but i have to say- for the better. i have an amazingi experience, but i have to say that their— experience, but i have to say that their hard — experience, but i have to say that their hard work— experience, but i have to say that their hard work ethic, _ experience, but i have to say that their hard work ethic, they- their hard work ethic, they will text me — their hard work ethic, they will text me 24—hour— their hard work ethic, they will text me 24—hour i5 _ their hard work ethic, they will text me 24—hour is the - their hard work ethic, they will text me 24—hour is the day, . their hard work ethic, they will. text me 24—hour is the day, seven days— text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a _ text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week — text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week i_ text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week iam— text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week. i am the _ text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week. i am the one - text me 24—hour is the day, seven days a week. i am the one telling i days a week. i am the one telling them, _ days a week. i am the one telling them, you — days a week. i am the one telling them. you know. _ days a week. i am the one telling them, you know, you _ days a week. i am the one telling them, you know, you should - days a week. i am the one telling them, you know, you should noti days a week. i am the one telling - them, you know, you should not work at night _ them, you know, you should not work at night or— them, you know, you should not work at night or you — them, you know, you should not work at night or you should _ them, you know, you should not work at night or you should not— them, you know, you should not work at night or you should not work- them, you know, you should not work at night or you should not work on - at night or you should not work on the weekend — at night or you should not work on the weekend and _ at night or you should not work on the weekend and by— at night or you should not work on the weekend and by the _ at night or you should not work on the weekend and by the way, - at night or you should not work on the weekend and by the way, if i i the weekend and by the way, if i ever— the weekend and by the way, if i ever text — the weekend and by the way, if i ever text or— the weekend and by the way, if i evertext or e—mail_ the weekend and by the way, if i evertext or e—mailat_ the weekend and by the way, if i ever text or e—mail at night, - the weekend and by the way, if i ever text or e—mail at night, i. the weekend and by the way, if i i ever text or e—mail at night, i say i ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would _ ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never— ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text _ ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text at _ ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text at night - ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text at night but. ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text at night but if. ever text or e—mail at night, i say i would never text at night but if ij i would never text at night but if i e-mail_ i would never text at night but if i e-mail at— i would never text at night but if i e-mail at night, _ i would never text at night but if i e—mail at night, do— i would never text at night but if i e—mail at night, do not— i would never text at night but if i e—mail at night, do not respond, i e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look— e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at — e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at it — e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at it. that _ e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at it. that is— e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at it. that is because - e—mail at night, do not respond, do not look at it. that is because that. not look at it. that is because that is how— not look at it. that is because that is how i_ not look at it. that is because that is how i was— not look at it. that is because that is how i was raised _ not look at it. that is because that is how i was raised as _ not look at it. that is because that is how i was raised as a _ not look at it. that is because that is how i was raised as a geriatric. is how i was raised as a geriatric millenniat — is how i was raised as a geriatric millennial-— millennial. there is nothing aeriatric millennial. there is nothing geriatric about _ millennial. there is nothing geriatric about you - millennial. there is nothing geriatric about you at - millennial. there is nothing geriatric about you at all! . millennial. there is nothing - geriatric about you at all! thank ou. geriatric about you at all! thank you- they _ geriatric about you at all! thank you- they will — geriatric about you at all! thank you. they will text _ geriatric about you at all! thank you. they will text all _ geriatric about you at all! thank you. they will text all the - geriatric about you at all! thank you. they will text all the time | geriatric about you at all! thank . you. they will text all the time and that is— you. they will text all the time and that is one — you. they will text all the time and that is one part— you. they will text all the time and that is one part about it, i- you. they will text all the time and that is one part about it, i think. that is one part about it, i think it they— that is one part about it, i think it they feel— that is one part about it, i think it they feel a _ that is one part about it, i think it they feel a need _ that is one part about it, i think it they feel a need and - that is one part about it, i think it they feel a need and it - that is one part about it, i think it they feel a need and it is - that is one part about it, i think it they feel a need and it is a . that is one part about it, i think. it they feel a need and it is a mix of their— it they feel a need and it is a mix of their hard _ it they feel a need and it is a mix of their hard work— it they feel a need and it is a mix of their hard work ethic - it they feel a need and it is a mix of their hard work ethic and - it they feel a need and it is a mix of their hard work ethic and an . of their hard work ethic and an inability— of their hard work ethic and an inability to— of their hard work ethic and an inability to turn _ of their hard work ethic and an inability to turn off, _ of their hard work ethic and an inability to turn off, the - of their hard work ethic and an inability to turn off, the phonej inability to turn off, the phone keeps — inability to turn off, the phone keeps you _ inability to turn off, the phone keeps you on— inability to turn off, the phone keeps you on at— inability to turn off, the phone keeps you on at all— inability to turn off, the phone keeps you on at all times - inability to turn off, the phone keeps you on at all times and i inability to turn off, the phone . keeps you on at all times and the second _ keeps you on at all times and the second part — keeps you on at all times and the second part is _ keeps you on at all times and the second part is l _ keeps you on at all times and the second part is i have _ keeps you on at all times and the second part is i have seen- keeps you on at all times and the second part is i have seen a - keeps you on at all times and the second part is i have seen a lot. keeps you on at all times and the | second part is i have seen a lot of them _ second part is i have seen a lot of them take — second part is i have seen a lot of them take on— second part is i have seen a lot of
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them take on multiple _ second part is i have seen a lot of them take on multiple jobs, - second part is i have seen a lot ofj them take on multiple jobs, when second part is i have seen a lot of. them take on multiple jobs, when i was their— them take on multiple jobs, when i was their age. _ them take on multiple jobs, when i was theirage. i_ them take on multiple jobs, when i was their age, i did _ them take on multiple jobs, when i was their age, i did one _ them take on multiple jobs, when i was their age, i did one internshipl was their age, i did one internship at a time — was their age, i did one internship ata time and— was their age, i did one internship at a time and one _ was their age, i did one internship at a time and one job _ was their age, i did one internship at a time and one job at _ was their age, i did one internship at a time and one job at a - was their age, i did one internship at a time and one job at a time . was their age, i did one internshipl at a time and one job at a time and i at a time and one job at a time and i don't _ at a time and one job at a time and i don't know— at a time and one job at a time and ldon't know why— at a time and one job at a time and i don't know why they— at a time and one job at a time and i don't know why they were - at a time and one job at a time and i don't know why they were raised. i don't know why they were raised like idon't know why they were raised like that— i don't know why they were raised like that but — i don't know why they were raised like that but a — i don't know why they were raised like that but a lot _ i don't know why they were raised like that but a lot of _ i don't know why they were raised like that but a lot of them - i don't know why they were raised like that but a lot of them are. . i don't know why they were raised like that but a lot of them are. it. like that but a lot of them are. it is easy— like that but a lot of them are. it is easy for— like that but a lot of them are. it is easy for them _ like that but a lot of them are. it is easy for them to _ like that but a lot of them are. it is easy for them to burn - is easy for them to burn out quickly _ is easy for them to burn out quickly i_ is easy for them to burn out quickly. i treat _ is easy for them to burn out quickly. i treat my- is easy for them to burn out quickly. i treat my gen - is easy for them to burn out quickly. i treat my gen 2 . is easy for them to burn out. quickly. i treat my gen 2 team is easy for them to burn out - quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they— quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they stay— quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they stay with _ quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they stay with me. _ quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they stay with me. i _ quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well and they stay with me. i adore - quickly. i treat my gen 2 team well. and they stay with me. i adore them but i and they stay with me. i adore them but i think— and they stay with me. i adore them but i think they— and they stay with me. i adore them but i think they need _ and they stay with me. i adore them but i think they need to _ and they stay with me. i adore them but i think they need to be careful. but i think they need to be careful in not _ but i think they need to be careful in not burning _ but i think they need to be careful in not burning out. _ but i think they need to be careful in not burning out. i— but i think they need to be careful in not burning out.— in not burning out. i see you smiling. _ in not burning out. i see you smiling, celine. _ in not burning out. i see you smiling, celine. i— in not burning out. i see you smiling, celine. i agree, - in not burning out. i see you smiling, celine. i agree, i. in not burning out. i see you i smiling, celine. i agree, iwas in not burning out. i see you - smiling, celine. i agree, iwasjust smiling, celine. i agree, iwas 'ust thinkin: smiling, celine. i agree, iwas 'ust thinking about- smiling, celine. i agree, iwas 'ust thinking about how - smiling, celine. i agree, iwas 'ust thinking about how so - smiling, celine. i agree, iwas 'ust thinking about how so many . smiling, celine. i agree, iwasjust thinking about how so many gen i smiling, celine. i agree, iwasjust thinking about how so many gen z| thinking about how so many gen z have so many passion and we are trying to pursue different things and sometimes all at once, which leads to burn—out, but i think it is really lively, this generation, we have so many passions and we want to turnit have so many passions and we want to turn it into livelihoods. just think, turn it into livelihoods. just think. is — turn it into livelihoods. just think. is it _ turn it into livelihoods. just think, is it a _ turn it into livelihoods. just think, is it a case _ turn it into livelihoods. just think, is it a case that - turn it into livelihoods. just think, is it a case that previous generations like ours, conformed a bit more to social norms within the workplace, whereas this generation is not going to do that?— is not going to do that? there is definitely something _ is not going to do that? there is definitely something in - is not going to do that? there is definitely something in that - is not going to do that? there is definitely something in that and | is not going to do that? there is| definitely something in that and i work— definitely something in that and i work with— definitely something in that and i work with a lot of gen 2 people and
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they are _ work with a lot of gen 2 people and they are very mission driven and a lot of— they are very mission driven and a lot of the — they are very mission driven and a lot of the work i do on mobility is mission _ lot of the work i do on mobility is mission driven as well. i do think there _ mission driven as well. i do think there is— mission driven as well. i do think there is a — mission driven as well. i do think there is a different way of working and in _ there is a different way of working and in this— there is a different way of working and in this world where it is a war for talent. — and in this world where it is a war for talent, theyjust need to understand that. it does not matter whether— understand that. it does not matter whether you think it is right or wrong. — whether you think it is right or wrong. for— whether you think it is right or wrong, for some people to pick up the phone. — wrong, for some people to pick up the phone, the reality is people will communicate in the way they feel most— will communicate in the way they feel most comfortable and you have to -o feel most comfortable and you have to go with _ feel most comfortable and you have to go with that, i think as an employer_ to go with that, i think as an employer and understand that. thank ou ve employer and understand that. thank you very much _ employer and understand that. thank you very much indeed _ employer and understand that. thank you very much indeed to _ employer and understand that. thank you very much indeed to all— employer and understand that. thank you very much indeed to all of- employer and understand that. trisha; you very much indeed to all of you, but particularly thank you to celine at the best of luck with your company and career going forward. thank you forjoining us.— company and career going forward. thank you forjoining us. don't forget you can get in touch with me and some of the team on twitter — i'm @ bbcmaryam.
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tuesday promises a long day ahead, quite literally the longest day of the year. it is the summer solstice and for shetland we are looking at close to a whopping 19 hours of daylight. i cannot promise you 19 hours of sunshine here however because there is a weather front closing in on the north of scotland and that will mean more cloud around, maybe even some rain through tuesday but it should brighten across scotland later in the day. quite grey initially with some drizzly rain, but by the afternoon sky should brighten especially in the east and we could see some isolated showers. with the clearest of the skies and the best of the sunshine, england and wales will be the place to be and here at the top
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temperatures returning to the mid 20s. coolerforaberdeen temperatures returning to the mid 20s. cooler for aberdeen as we see the weather front slide south. pollen levels come down somewhat in scotland in response to the weather front in place but still remain high across england and wales and northern ireland. tuesday evening, some more fine weather around and more sunshine until quite late into the evening and then, as darkness falls, clear skies continue across england and wales and more in the way of patchy cloud in scotland and northern ireland, overnight lows typically in double figures, somewhere between ten and 12 degrees. forwednesday somewhere between ten and 12 degrees. for wednesday into thursday, we have still got high pressure trying to push across the uk, this little ridge from the west, so actually quite a lot of fine weather to come for both wednesday and thursday, and no really dramatic changes, perhaps more sunshine across central and eastern scotland and here we should see temperatures responding to that and pushing up into the low 20s, still cooler in
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the north west of scotland with more cloud, look at england and wales, 28 degrees, actually seeing some significant heat returning through wednesday and thursday in the picture will be very similar indeed for england and wales. chance of a few showers closing into the south coast, spilling up from the continent, but they should be few and far between, scotland and northern ireland are little more cloud around, but temperatures up to 20 in belfast and aberdeen. it is the end of the week where it looks like things will start to turn more unsettled and into the weekend, shah is becoming more widespread, the wind picking up and the temperature sliding down.
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you're watching the context on bbc news. two shock elections — president macron loses his majority in the national assembly — and ex—rebel fighter — gustavo petro becomes colombia's first left—wing president. the result in colombia marks a major chance for the country — which for decades has been led by moderates and conservatives and later in the programme — president biden's tumble — just days after questions if he should run in the 2024 elections. and zoolander meets zelensky — why is one of hollywood's biggest stars in ukraine? tonight with the context, former conservative cabinet minister justine greening and former us government advisor hagar chemali who now hosts the political satire series oh my world
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president macron of france has suffered a major political setback after his party failed to win a majority in the country's parliamentary elections. his centrist coalition has lost a third of its seats. and now president macron faces a tough challenge to deliver his policies. his centrist coalition — ensemble — is expected to finish with 245 seats well short of the 289 needed to control the national assembly. the left wing alliance headed by jean luc melanchon is second on 131. while marine le pen's far right national rally has 89 seats and the mainstream right—wing les republicains headed by christianjackob, have 64. it means president macron will be the first french president since the 1980's to govern without a parliamentary majority. so as you'd expect the mood was very downbeat at ensemble hq,
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here's the french prime minister elisabeth borne. this situation is unprecedented. the national assembly has never seen a configuration of this type in the fifth republic. the situation constitutes a risk for our country in view of the challenges that we have to face. joining us now is sophie pedder — paris bureau chief for the economist. talk me through how devastating this is for president micron. it is talk me through how devastating this is for president micron.— is for president micron. it is a very serious _ is for president micron. it is a very serious blow _ is for president micron. it is a very serious blow for - is for president micron. it is a very serious blow for him. - very serious blow for him. he mentioned the fact that the french have no minority governments back in the 1980s that was michelle who was a socialist feminist at the time but he had only 14 short of a majority. micron is facing 44 seats. a
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shortfall of 44 which is just huge. and it's going to make it extremely difficult because as you said there are now blocked both on the radical left and on the far right of serious opposition to his government and there are very few friends for him to reach out to in order to cover with. after that it's a really important point that france does not have that culture of correlation bills if you look at countries like germany or the netherlands or italy, they may not always work out but at least these countries are used to forming collations to finding compromises to working together across the political divide. it is really not the case with france where the last 20 years every single president has been given a majority in parliament. so we are looking at it feels like uncharted territory here in paris. with a lot of meetings, crisis meetings going on behind closed doors trying to work out how on earth he is going to govern with this minority. some are
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sa int govern with this minority. some are saying president — govern with this minority. some are saying president micron _ govern with this minority. some are saying president micron is - govern with this minority. some are saying president micron is pretty . saying president micron is pretty much to blame himself for what has happened because after the presidential elections he failed to really push in terms of an election campaign for these elections. meiji. campaign for these elections. well, it was difficult _ campaign for these elections. well, it was difficult because _ campaign for these elections. well, it was difficult because he - campaign for these elections. -ii it was difficult because he had a lot of diplomacy that was going on at the same time. i think it was in ukraine last week he has had a lot of meetings to run at the european union because they were rotating presidency of the eu council so there are reasons he was not actually on the ground. but it is the case that he took a very long time and menu by minister and had a sense of waking almost as if he was expecting that by waiting until —— until they're out of time he would automatically be given a majority. what happened is that the french have said they don't like the fact that there are very few checks and balances in the system. you have a presidential system which does give
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very strong concentrated power to the president and i think what they have done by presenting the president with a really fragmented parliament, no one has a majority. the republicans don't. by giving them this fragmented picture and saying try to work with that, it's almost like the message is this week we want there to be checks on your executive power. let we want there to be checks on your executive power.— we want there to be checks on your executive power. let us bring in our -anel executive power. let us bring in our anel. it executive power. let us bring in our panel- it looks _ executive power. let us bring in our panel. it looks like _ executive power. let us bring in our panel. it looks like it _ executive power. let us bring in our panel. it looks like it will _ executive power. let us bring in our panel. it looks like it will be an - panel. it looks like it will be an uphill struggle for president macron from now on. it uphill struggle for president macron from now on-_ uphill struggle for president macron from now on. , ., , , , , from now on. it emphasises the sense of real political — from now on. it emphasises the sense of real political instability _ from now on. it emphasises the sense of real political instability in _ of real political instability in many — of real political instability in many countries around the world right— many countries around the world right now — many countries around the world right now. you've got to bear in mind _ right now. you've got to bear in mind back— right now. you've got to bear in mind back in 2017 president macron one something like 350 seats and that's— one something like 350 seats and that's now— one something like 350 seats and that's now reduced to 230 seats in the parliament. so it's a dramatic reversat — the parliament. so it'5 a dramatic reversat i— the parliament. so it's a dramatic reversal. i think what it underlines i5 reversal. i think what it underlines is what _ reversal. i think what it underlines is what he — reversal. i think what it underlines is what he obviously won the presidential election earlier this year and — presidential election earlier this year and he had
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presidential election earlier this yearand he had a presidential election earlier this year and he had a sense of him coming— year and he had a sense of him coming through the middle in many respects— coming through the middle in many respects that vote was as much about what people did not want is about what _ what people did not want is about what they— what people did not want is about what they did one and of christ once they get— what they did one and of christ once they get to — what they did one and of christ once they get to the more parliamentary elections _ they get to the more parliamentary elections they vote against president macron and put the checks and balances on him. the question is can you _ and balances on him. the question is can you really take friends anywhere in the _ can you really take friends anywhere in the meantime and what does this mean _ in the meantime and what does this mean for— in the meantime and what does this mean for the broader role that he can pay— mean for the broader role that he can pay giving the war in ukraine and the— can pay giving the war in ukraine and the leadership in a sense that president — and the leadership in a sense that president macron i5 and the leadership in a sense that president macron is sure to show him that. ., ., ~' president macron is sure to show him that. ., ., ~ ., ., ., , that. looking forward, where does president macron _ that. looking forward, where does president macron go _ that. looking forward, where does president macron go from - that. looking forward, where does president macron go from here? l that. looking forward, where does. president macron go from here? he that. looking forward, where does . president macron go from here? he is ttoin tot president macron go from here? he is going to try l — president macron go from here? he is going to try i think _ president macron go from here? he: 3 going to try i think govern as a minority within a minority government and that will mean text by text piece of legislation by a piece of legislation and trying to find deputies from either the moderate left or from the moderate right. who will support him in parliament on those particular texts but that again is going to involve a
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sort of consensus seeking compromise might big negotiations that france is not used to doing outside party structures. so i think that's pretty much the only choice he has. i don't think it's the idea of a formal correlation with any party and they said they did not want to do that. i don't think there's any other choice for him. it's going to mean a lot of instability and a lot of uncertainty for france. it instability and a lot of uncertainty for france. . instability and a lot of uncertainty for france. , ., ., ., instability and a lot of uncertainty for france-— for france. it is good to talk to you- thank _ for france. it is good to talk to you. thank you. _ let's turn from elections in france to a historic presidential election result in colombia. the country has elected its first ever left—wing leader, former rebel fighter gustavo petro. in what was his third time running, he tookjust over 50% of the votes, defeating his rival — independent candidate rodolfo hernandez — by around 700,000 ballots. his running mate, francia marquez, will become the country's first black woman vice—president. together, they have promised to fight inequality and wean the country off its dependence on fossil fuels. and after chile, peru and honduras all elected leftist presidents in 2021, presidnet—elect petro says he is keen for the region to work
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more closely together. change consists precisely a leaving hatred behind. change consists precisely in leaving sectarianism behind. today with the triumph the colombian people have given us we can propose a dialogue in the americans without excluding any people, any nation. sergio guzman is the director of colombia risk analysis, a political risk consulting firm. he's in cali, in the west of the country. thank you forjoining us on the context. thank you for “oining us on the context. ~ ., ., . thank you for “oining us on the context. ~ . ., , . ., ., thank you for “oining us on the context. . . . ., ., context. what has changed now you think in columbia _ context. what has changed now you think in columbia to _ context. what has changed now you think in columbia to bring _ context. what has changed now you think in columbia to bring in - context. what has changed now you think in columbia to bring in the - think in columbia to bring in the first left—wing government in columbia's history? first left-wing government in columbia's history?— first left-wing government in columbia's history? thank you for havint columbia's history? thank you for having me- _ columbia's history? thank you for having me- i—
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columbia's history? thank you for having me. i credit _ columbia's history? thank you for having me. i credit to _ columbia's history? thank you for having me. i credit to things - columbia's history? thank you for having me. i credit to things for i having me. i credit to things for his ascent. the first would be the pandemic and it really expose the underbelly of inequality and poverty in columbia but the second would be the poor government of yvonne duke. in 2019, 2020, and 2021 there were a very significant protests against the government that the government was unable to listen. the government and on many occasions tried to cast the protesters as illegitimate and many of these people who protested the government of president evander kate his administration and supported my�*s attempt to run the country. supported my's attempt to run the count . . supported my's attempt to run the count . , , country. the interesting thing is lookin t country. the interesting thing is lookint at country. the interesting thing is looking at that _ country. the interesting thing is looking at that wider _ country. the interesting thing is looking at that wider latin - country. the interesting thing is. looking at that wider latin american situation if president lula weems in the autumn that we are going to have pretty much every latin american country safe to countries with leftist governments. how do you think is pink tied as it's known is
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going to change the way that latin america does politics but also its relationship with the rest of the world? �* . relationship with the rest of the world? �* , ., , ~' world? there's two things i think are important— world? there's two things i think are important on _ world? there's two things i think are important on this. _ world? there's two things i think are important on this. i - world? there's two things i think are important on this. i think - world? there's two things i think are important on this. i think it's| are important on this. i think it's not necessary a new pink tied, the way i see it is an anti—incumbent movement. if you look in ecuador the government changed from a left—wing government changed from a left—wing government to a right—wing government. in argentina to left—wing government lost the midterm elections. same thing happened in mexico. i think the trend is much more anti—incumbent and much more prohibited left directive but i do think certain leaders like gustavo petro are going to try to make a much broader movement of pan— latin americanism. that was already experienced in the early 2000 and it was a failed experiment. i don't have a lot of
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reasons to believe what it would be any different at this occasion. that us brint any different at this occasion. that us bring in — any different at this occasion. that us bring in our— any different at this occasion. that us bring in our panel guests. up until now, there has been bipartisan agreement in america to funnel money into columbia. 0ver agreement in america to funnel money into columbia. over the last 30 years mostly to fight the narcotics trade but also in terms of illegal armed groups as well finding the fight against them. now we see a leftist government in columbia. how do you think republicans are going to do that getting that the right wing within columbia view them in a negative light as well? international affairs in washington, dc luckily— international affairs in washington, dc luckily when it comes to something like clap —— columbia and latin america you will not see as much _ latin america you will not see as much of— latin america you will not see as much of a — latin america you will not see as much of a bipartisan breakdown on this because columbia has been a close _ this because columbia has been a close partner of the united states government for decades as you notice starting _ government for decades as you notice starting with president clinton and the war— 5tarting with president clinton and the war on— starting with president clinton and the war on drugs. and that partnership only grew over time. as you noted _
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partnership only grew over time. as you noted not only to combat drugs and narcotics trafficking but also rebel— and narcotics trafficking but also rebel groups and organised crime and so on _ rebel groups and organised crime and so on there — rebel groups and organised crime and so on. there has been a fan relationships with each leader. some better— relationships with each leader. some better than others. but whether it is a leftist — better than others. but whether it is a leftist leader or towards the right— is a leftist leader or towards the right is a — is a leftist leader or towards the right is a leader for example has said that — right is a leader for example has said that he intends to read combat corruption — said that he intends to read combat corruption and for both to be honest with you _ corruption and for both to be honest with you both republicans and democrats feel strongly about that uncertainty president biden has said that is— uncertainty president biden has said that is a _ uncertainty president biden has said that is a central tenet of his foreign _ that is a central tenet of his foreign policy. but for the majority of republicans even if it's a leftist — of republicans even if it's a leftist leader in columbia they see a lot there to stay connected with a special— a lot there to stay connected with a special piece of historic ties so that would be something that remained interesting but certainly something that we will want to make sure that _ something that we will want to make sure that relationship stays on track — sure that relationship stays on track. in — sure that relationship stays on track. . sure that relationship stays on track. , ., , ., , , track. in terms of the rebel groups we know that _ track. in terms of the rebel groups we know that it _ track. in terms of the rebel groups we know that it was an _ track. in terms of the rebel groups we know that it was an agreement| we know that it was an agreement made in 2060 but the government of a
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cut that deal. they did not implemented properly intimate that potentially might see this government implementing it. if they decide to implement it fully and properly how will that go down in columbia? i properly how will that go down in columbia? ~' ., ., ~' properly how will that go down in columbia? ~' ., columbia? i think if we look at the teace columbia? i think if we look at the peace agreement _ columbia? i think if we look at the peace agreement that _ columbia? i think if we look at the peace agreement that was - columbia? i think if we look at the peace agreement that was done i columbia? i think if we look at the peace agreement that was done in 2016, two of the principal components of the agreement, land reform, and drug reform were not fully done by the government of the president either because of their own political willingness to do it or because it simply was too complicated. what i think is that he's going to attempt to pass land reforms and on the drug reform issue he's going to have a lot of problems with the united states the columbia policy is viewed through a south florida lens and already senators like marco rubio and rick scott has said they would not approve a single
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dollarfor said they would not approve a single dollar for columbia said they would not approve a single dollarfor columbia if he said they would not approve a single dollar for columbia if he wants to change the war on drugs and those kinds of policies. but i do think on land reform in columbia there is motivation to get this done. the problem is going to be the political opposition by the right wing and by large land owners who still can save quite a bit of power. fits large land owners who still can save quite a bit of power.— quite a bit of power. as he was talkint quite a bit of power. as he was talking about _ quite a bit of power. as he was talking about a _ quite a bit of power. as he was talking about a minute - quite a bit of power. as he was talking about a minute ago, . quite a bit of power. as he was. talking about a minute ago, and quite a bit of power. as he was - talking about a minute ago, and the establishment is very much the name of the game in latin america right now. if you are brought in on an antiestablishment to keep it up uphill struggle to make good on your promises. yes, and he set himself a very ambitious agenda for columbia. it's notjust about very ambitious agenda for columbia. it's not just about some of the it'5 not just about some of the things— it's not just about some of the things we _ it's not just about some of the things we talked _ it's not just about some of the things we talked about - it's not just about some of the things we talked about in - it's not just about some of the - things we talked about in narcotics and land _ things we talked about in narcotics and land reform _ things we talked about in narcotics and land reform it'5 _ things we talked about in narcotics and land reform it's also _ things we talked about in narcotics and land reform it's also tax - and land reform it's also tax reform. _ and land reform it's also tax reform, creating _ and land reform it's also tax reform, creating this - and land reform it's also tax l reform, creating this greener, and land reform it's also tax - reform, creating this greener, fair economy— reform, creating this greener, fair economy but— reform, creating this greener, fair economy but his _ reform, creating this greener, fair economy but his initial— reform, creating this greener, fair economy but his initial messagesl economy but his initial messages have _ economy but his initial messages have been— economy but his initial messages have been about _ economy but his initial messages have been about reaching - economy but his initial messages have been about reaching out. economy but his initial messages - have been about reaching out beyond his core _
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have been about reaching out beyond his core political— have been about reaching out beyond his core political family _ have been about reaching out beyond his core political family to _ have been about reaching out beyond his core political family to a - have been about reaching out beyond his core political family to a much - his core political family to a much wider— his core political family to a much wider columbia. _ his core political family to a much wider columbia. it— his core political family to a much wider columbia. it remains- his core political family to a much wider columbia. it remains to - wider columbia. it remains to be seen _ wider columbia. it remains to be seen how— wider columbia. it remains to be seen how receptive _ wider columbia. it remains to be seen how receptive people - wider columbia. it remains to be seen how receptive people who i wider columbia. it remains to be - seen how receptive people who have been his— seen how receptive people who have been his political— seen how receptive people who have been his political opponents- seen how receptive people who have been his political opponents would . been his political opponents would been his political opponents would be to— been his political opponents would be to ask— been his political opponents would be to ask but — been his political opponents would be to ask but there _ been his political opponents would be to ask but there is _ been his political opponents would be to ask but there is this - been his political opponents would be to ask but there is this sense . be to ask but there is this sense that as — be to ask but there is this sense that as you _ be to ask but there is this sense that as you say— be to ask but there is this sense that as you say people - be to ask but there is this sense that as you say people are - be to ask but there is this sense . that as you say people are looking for not _ that as you say people are looking for not the — that as you 5ay people are looking for not the usual— that as you say people are looking for not the usual candidates - that as you say people are looking for not the usual candidates and l for not the usual candidates and being _ for not the usual candidates and being outside _ for not the usual candidates and being outside the _ for not the usual candidates and being outside the politics - for not the usual candidates and being outside the politics that. being outside the politics that perhaps — being outside the politics that perhaps people _ being outside the politics that perhaps people saw— being outside the politics that perhaps people saw as - being outside the politics that| perhaps people saw as corrupt being outside the politics that. perhaps people saw as corrupt i5 perhaps people saw as corrupt is something — perhaps people saw as corrupt is something that _ perhaps people saw as corrupt is something that has _ perhaps people saw as corrupt is something that has served - perhaps people saw as corrupt is something that has served him l perhaps people saw as corrupt i5 . something that has served him very well and _ something that has served him very well and winning _ something that has served him very well and winning the _ something that has served him very well and winning the presidency. . well and winning the presidency. thank— well and winning the presidency. thank you — well and winning the presidency. thank you for— well and winning the presidency. thank you for being _ well and winning the presidency. thank you for being on _ well and winning the presidency. thank you for being on the - thank you for being on the programme. now — if you've spent your weekend on twitter you've probably seen the pictures of the leader of the free world falling off his bike. if you haven't — then here it is. that is something i've then quite a few times. never one to shed the
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opportunity to have a dig. never one to shirk the opportunity to have a dig — former president trump had his say last night. i do hope that biden is ok because that was a hard fall, that was scary. did anybody see it? well we wish him well in that respect. president biden said he was okay after the fall — hopping for reports — and giving a thumbs when he came out of church on sunday. but all in all — not the ideal pictures when there have been questions in the media — including from david axelrod — if biden should run again. speaking to the new york times last week — the former 0bama advisor said: �*the presidency is a monstrously taxing job and the stark reality is the president would be closer to 90 than 80 at the end of a second term, and that would be a major issue'. presidentjoe biden is 79 years old — but he's not the oldest of the senior politicians in the us. speaker of house nancy pelosi is 82 years ago. and
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on the republican side — mitch mcconnell — the senate minority leader is 80. but former president trump is a little younger — at 76. now — it's time for the panel. what do you make of it? the falling off the bike, what did you think? i thought well done for getting on a bike to be honest. that thought well done for getting on a bike to be honest.— thought well done for getting on a bike to be honest. that was my first thoutht bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well _ bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and _ bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and you _ bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and you see - bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and you see it - bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and you see it as . bike to be honest. that was my first thought as well and you see it as i l thought as well and you see it as i don't know many make a living of commenting on the president's body but he looks, his body does not look like a 79—year—old body. i but he looks, his body does not look like a 79-year-old body.— like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good- — like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good- he _ like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is _ like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is a _ like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is a fit _ like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is a fit man. - like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is a fit man. that. like a 79-year-old body. i agree, he looks good. he is a fit man. that is| looks good. he is a fit man. that is 'ust a looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human _ looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human reaction. _ looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human reaction. i— looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human reaction. i fall- looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human reaction. i fall off- looks good. he is a fit man. that is just a human reaction. i fall off of. just a human reaction. ifall off of everything. i trip and fall on my face nonstop so i don't blame his age for that. but to the point about david axelrod's comments, all of
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this sheds light on a stark reality which is the age of our political leaders and the fact is that we have a very ageing political elite here in the us and i found since 2016 in particular as the parties become more extreme and more divisive and more extreme and more divisive and more people dig their heels in. so some of them are either afraid to go to support new political candidates, young political candidates even though more of them are running or sometimes they look to the older ones today can and prevent the other side from winning. to be honest that's why president biden ended up becoming a candidate for democrats. he was the oldest but he was also the one that everybody felt we could all coalesce around. and defeat president trump and i think that would be a running theme for a while at least. it would be a running theme for a while at least. . . would be a running theme for a while at least. , , , ., at least. it is buried when you called the _ at least. it is buried when you called the 76-year-old - at least. it is buried when you called the 76-year-old that i at least. it is buried when you - called the 76-year-old that spring called the 76—year—old that spring chicken of the group. do you think that would happen in uk politics? it could. we went through a period
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where _ could. we went through a period where prime ministers were exceptionally young. tony blair coming — exceptionally young. tony blair coming into office when he was in his 40s _ coming into office when he was in his 405. david cameron. i think boris _ his 405. david cameron. i think borisjohnson i5 his 405. david cameron. i think borisjohnson is one of the first 50—year—old5 we had in a while but i think— 50—year—old5 we had in a while but i think a _ 50—year—old5 we had in a while but i think a big _ 50—year—old5 we had in a while but i think a big issue for the states is it has— think a big issue for the states is it has been— think a big issue for the states is it has been all about the people and the personalities because in a sense the personalities because in a sense the big _ the personalities because in a sense the big question is what are the mean _ the big question is what are the mean ideas that are coming through? and can _ mean ideas that are coming through? and can either edit democrats or the republicans really reinvent themselves for the 21st century in a way that— themselves for the 21st century in a way that really engages a lot of young people? that was originally his appeal in france. we talked about— his appeal in france. we talked about the — his appeal in france. we talked about the election day but again it's fascinating to see john doing it'5 fascinating to see john doing better— it'5 fascinating to see john doing better as — it'5 fascinating to see john doing better as a left—wing candidate. but ithink— better as a left—wing candidate. but i think in— better as a left—wing candidate. but i think in the end, we are fixated on the _ i think in the end, we are fixated on the people and what we really want _ on the people and what we really want to _ on the people and what we really want to see outside the political system — want to see outside the political system if — want to see outside the political system if you are a vote there is
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some _ system if you are a vote there is some fresh— system if you are a vote there is some fresh ideas about how politics is going _ some fresh ideas about how politics is going to — some fresh ideas about how politics is going to rise to the channel as the inflation, cost of all those things— the inflation, cost of all those things are making it fairer. all of those _ things are making it fairer. all of those things that actually are what people _ those things that actually are what people really want to see and partly away president trump was able to make _ away president trump was able to make so— away president trump was able to make so much progress appealing to voters _ make so much progress appealing to voters in _ make so much progress appealing to voters in some of those communities that felt— voters in some of those communities that felt locked out of america's progress over recent years. looking at those on — progress over recent years. looking at those on the _ progress over recent years. looking at those on the bench _ progress over recent years. looking at those on the bench right - progress over recent years. looking at those on the bench right now, . progress over recent years. looking at those on the bench right now, is| at those on the bench right now, is there anyone on the bench that could potentially replace this generation moving forward for democrats? taste moving forward for democrats? we alwa s moving forward for democrats? - always hear about certain individuals who are being groomed or could run for example certainly people who one and ran when he was running againstjoe biden as a democratic candidate but now he's having more experience in washington, dc but to be honest with
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you i would love to see my own senator from connecticut make a run because he's made quite a name for himself on gun reform and foreign affairs and a lot of these issues and he's very moderate but you know, one of the things that's ironic here when you think about one of the leaders that has captured a lot of the youth is bernie sanders. and bernie sanders is extremely on the older and,... bernie sanders is extremely on the older and.---_ bernie sanders is extremely on the older and.---— older and,... someone is calling someone- _ older and,... someone is calling someone. thank— older and,... someone is calling someone. thank you _ older and,... someone is calling someone. thank you to - older and,... someone is calling someone. thank you to both - older and,... someone is calling someone. thank you to both of. older and,... someone is calling . someone. thank you to both of you for that. someone. thank you to both of you forthat. i someone. thank you to both of you for that. i think it's the right time for the panel. it's when we give our panelists the chance to talk about something they want to talk about something they want to talk about. let me bring you in here. you want to talk about working from home amongst council workers in the uk? , ., , ._ ,
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the uk? yes, a story in the times sa int a the uk? yes, a story in the times saying a survey — the uk? yes, a story in the times saying a survey had _ the uk? yes, a story in the times saying a survey had shown - the uk? yes, a story in the times saying a survey had shown him . the uk? yes, a story in the times . saying a survey had shown him some councils, 19% of their staff are still working from home and i think it underlines that while we are talking about issues like rail strikes and the cost of living and inflation actually aside from that we had a significant social shift in terms of how people are working. that is partly generational but a lot to do with post covid—19 and one of the big policy changes i think no one is talking about is how employers write to that. i did an event with a british mp here was bringing forward a bill on flexible working. it's a really massive issue and if we are pretending to debate debate how we can make working far more flexible for people who want that post covid—19 but also as we talked about for a new generation who actually look for a very different experience in worklife balance in generations before them.
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in terms of what you want to talk about, it's a very special hollywood star making a very special trip to ukraine. tell me more.— ukraine. tell me more. today is world refugee _ ukraine. tell me more. today is world refugee date _ ukraine. tell me more. today is world refugee date so _ ukraine. tell me more. today is world refugee date so happy - ukraine. tell me more. today is i world refugee date so happy world refugee _ world refugee date so happy world refugee day is that ben stiller i5 refugee day is that ben stiller is the goodwill ambassador for the un hi - h the goodwill ambassador for the un high commissioner for refugees self that the _ high commissioner for refugees self that the un refugee agency and while it appears— that the un refugee agency and while it appears as though he is in ukraine _ it appears as though he is in ukraine talking to president zelensky for who knows what reason we could _ zelensky for who knows what reason we could all assume that maybe it's because _ we could all assume that maybe it's because he — we could all assume that maybe it's because he wants to pay him in a movie _ because he wants to pay him in a movie one — because he wants to pay him in a movie one day.— movie one day. wouldn't he be great? the look movie one day. wouldn't he be great? they look so — movie one day. wouldn't he be great? they look so similar. _ movie one day. wouldn't he be great? they look so similar. they _ movie one day. wouldn't he be great? they look so similar. they have - movie one day. wouldn't he be great? they look so similar. they have got. they look so similar. they have got guns, i mean arms not actual guns. they both look similar. i guns, i mean arms not actual guns. they both look similar.— they both look similar. i would completely _ they both look similar. i would completely support _ they both look similar. i would completely support ben - they both look similar. i would completely support ben stiller| completely support ben stiller paying president zelensky in a movie and i believe i expected to be many
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hollywood movies on president zelensky giving his share bravery and leadership but he was there touring — and leadership but he was there touring and spreading the message and those — touring and spreading the message and those being conflict and their homes _ and those being conflict and their homes have a right to safety and at the very— homes have a right to safety and at the very important message at this time so _ the very important message at this time so that's why he was there. the tull of time so that's why he was there. tie: pull of president zelensky i5 time so that's why he was there. tie: pull of president zelensky is great, isn't it? ~ ,,., , pull of president zelensky is great, isn't it? ~ , , �* pull of president zelensky is great, isn'tit? ~ , ~ , ., , isn't it? absolutely. and it shows life imitates _ isn't it? absolutely. and it shows life imitates art. _ isn't it? absolutely. and it shows life imitates art. absolutely. - isn't it? absolutely. and it showsj life imitates art. absolutely. he's a great president because he has his finger on the pulse of what people in this country. bhd finger on the pulse of what people in this country.— in this country. and what you are referrint in this country. and what you are referring to _ in this country. and what you are referring to is that _ referring to is that president zelensky used to be a comedy after an ben stiller is obviously a hollywood comedy after so it makes a lot of sense they are meeting together but world refugee day we need to mark that and think about refugees around the world as ben stiller is trying to promote today. i would like to thank you both, my two wonderful panelists forjoining me today on the context and thank you you is at home forjoining us.
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more tomorrow evening buy from us here thank you for watching and goodbye. there are lots of major outdoor events that will be impacted by the leather in the next week or so. whether it's sports or music. the week started very promising with temperatures in the low 20s in the sunshine and it was the warmest day of the year so far in scotland. many other parts of the uk temperatures will be rising in the next few days before turning cooler in times for the weekend. a heat wave has come to an end in france and spain and explain bringing foundry downpours. the far north of england as well during the course of tuesday. there's not much rain left on this just a few showers and we could see some sunshine coming through now and again the sunny skies will be across
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many parts of england and wales when the wind is light and temperatures are rising in the sunshine and near 17 or 18 probably in scotland and northern ireland. at the moment we will see high pressure across the uk bringing sunshine around with the top of the high pressure and strong winds coming into scotland and the west in scotland will have more crowd and a few spots of rain and easton scotland lucy sunshine which will be warmer here. northern ireland seen crowd and temperatures lower. for many parts of england and wales the temperatures will rise and get warmer and warmer as he had torts thursday we will see pressure falling abates with some other funds in the south and across the far north so it's across the northern isles of scotland but we have got more crowd in western scotland and northern ireland. england and wales is heating up in the sunshine with more crowd later in the day
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threatening some thunderstorms moving up the channel into something frightening then. not before temperatures reach 28 or 29 or 30 degrees on thursday. not as hot as it was at the end of last week. depression will continue to fall as he moved into friday. temperatures will be dropping well. we will find more crowd around and some showers. heavy infantry pushing north of the eastern side of england and towards the last letter finds would bring crowded outbreaks of rain into western areas as well. more crowd and ran around potentially on friday temperatures will be lower stopped 23 degrees is our top figure in the south—east by the end of the week. and on friday night letterfunds will push rain east across glastonbury and the rain will continue east during saturday with low pressure being the dominant feature for the weekend. a band of rain will push east and it will be heavy but by sunshine and showers with wings in the southwest as well stop temperatures would be lower
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typically 16 through 19 degrees. cooler on saturday. the worm able to bring up —— build up in the next three days and get pushed to more eastern parts of europe with cool atlantic air and the priesthood had our way and what we are setting up a blocking pattern with high pressure towards the east of the uk and the pressure towards the west with rain spinning around and they are coming in from the south but not that warm for the outlook and dominated by low pressure for the most part we will find rain although it will look dry across more southeastern parts of the uk at this stage it's difficult to say whether it would be dry for the start of winter.
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tonight at 10pm... the biggest train strike in decades will start tomorrow after the latest talks hit the buffers. the government says the action will cause misery for millions — but the unions insist that pay and jobs must be protected. faced with such an aggressive agenda of cuts to jobs, conditions, pay and pensions, the rmt has no choice but to defend our members industrially and to stop this race to the bottom. there'll be three full days of strike action this week. network rail says reform is needed to bring benefits in future. if we are able to bring those modern practices into the way we run the railway, that could save hundreds of millions of pounds, and that could be transferred into savings and a better pay offer we could put on the table. services across england, scotland and wales are already running
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