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the ceo of an engineering firm. and robert rubin, a former treasury. >> i think this is a very real threat. newspapers weigh in on the challenges of this economy. what is your sense of what is going on? if you look are fumbling. how would you characterize this? is we do notld say have enough internally generated growth. we donot do that unless this. we only have two options. we have cut the deficit by more than 50%.
we have to keep getting them to sit down. interest rates lower than inflation, this is the best we will have to undertake a massive effort to build a 21st century infrastructure. if we did that we would have a massive growth. option which would require less of congress, they would have to put this up with to build an infrastructure bank with republican funds. they have more than a trillion dollars in cash. wariness to do this in both parties.
it would have this if the government said it up here at i believe we can initiate an exciting deal. they are trying to work with the companies >> is there a right number. we should have fewer instances and an alternative number. let me back up. >> this was a different era than. it is about economics. --have to have a rotten this. is develop from your own
employees. yet operations all over it the world. you were not looking for attack shelters. to bring the money that you had earned home. now the average corporate tax is 25% or 26%. the way to do it without giving up money is to require those that pay under 20% to pay a little more and to finance the repatriation. we should look at this money as a one-time stimulus for the economy. they could pay a modest amount in the treasury. the most important thing is the infrastructure, and putting people back to work. if you fund it it that way, then the people who put up the money would invest their pension funds
in the investment bank. that's what i think are two options are. we should try to get a corporate tax reform rate that is competitive internationally. we should do it without giving up money by closing loopholes and requiring everybody with x amount of income to pay a minimum tax. >> coming up next. the former president talks about what really matters to america. immigration policy, income equality. ? ♪
>> welcome back. we are with former president bill clinton. you spent a lifetime believing that policy matters. over and over again, immigration comes up. this is not one that public private partnerships can solve. it needs federal policy. if you are running the show, what would the path to immigration reform look like? >> first of all, i would be sure
we had a targeted approach for skilled immigrant labor that reflects the current demand for the economy. i believe we need a broad-based immigration reform. we need reasonable quotas in the future. that should be coupled with -- most of the anti-immigrant feeling in america ironically is in places without enormous number of immigrants. they are places that feel like they have been left out and left behind. everybody is at the front of the line. >> you given a good sense on how you would direct some policy. how would you lead us in this political climate? we do have a new house majority leader. he has suggested that he is open to immigration reform. >> you have immigration reform
opposed from the right and left. on political and nationalist reasons on the right, and economic populist reasons. on the left. i think that we need to -- the president has shown he is willing to enforce the laws. he has been attacked repeatedly for sending too many people back. he has actually changed and modified his position. i support that change. this in important thing. we live in this interdependent world. one of our big advantages in the world is there is somebody in america from everywhere else. we are four percent of the world's population. we have 21%-23% of the world gdp.
if we want to maintain prosperity, you have to have the workforce. it needs to be young. youth matters. demographics matter. we have a lot of work to do on the other side. we need to raise the median income in the workforce. i think this immigration reform is really important. >> income inequality -- president obama has called this the defining challenge of our time. i will take a guess that you would agree. what is the single most important thing we can do? >> in the short run, the most important thing is to lift the bottom, the working bottom by
raising the minimum wage. you could raise the minimum wage so much -- for example, research indicates that it if you keep the minimum wage at roughly half the median, you can get the best of both worlds. you can give people enough money to live on. they don't have enough to say, so they circulated in the economy. -- save, so they circulate it in the economy. it contributes to growth. i think making some adjustments in the tax credits to help working people with families at the lower end of the wage scale is important. the third thing that will help a
lot is it will take us three years, we got to get a medicare expansion. it brings money in and rewards working people. over the long run, social mobility may be even more important. we have proved in america that we would accept a slightly higher rate of economic inequality than many of the most wealthy countries in europe in return for more social mobility. we would take in more immigrants and give them a chance to start out low on the totem pole and build a middle-class life. that is not a credible position. we have less social mobility in america than a lot of other countries. >> when we come back, a panel discussion on political gridlock and how american businesses can move forward.
this is the key, we have to meet a host of policy challenges. they are difficult. they are doable. they are also difficult politically. and we have a political system in gridlock. the key to our future is the reestablishment of a political system in which you have a congress and willingness to compromise. in that way, we will meet our policy challenges. i personally think it is likely. we have a dynamic society. it is in gridlock now. there are no guarantees. it will be a long process. >> what's holding back american businesses? what are the key policy issues -- impediments --
>> there are some fundamental things -- we like a stable tax policy to predict what is going on. we feel very strongly that we need an immigration policy. we need workers at all levels of the chain. >> can we be globally competitive if we do not solve our immigration problem? it is a significant impediment in our economy. it is something we want from a workforce perspective. >> can i ask a question? i have friends in big technology companies who say they are moving jobs out of the united states. they cannot bring in people from
abroad to fill key roles. the failure in immigration reform is costing us jobs. >> you are having problems with access to talent? >> we have an immigration problem. the very best jobs in the world -- i have a company called glass door. we are one of the largest job sites. we analyze all kinds of data about the job market. the jobs are in computer science and engineering. there are hundreds of thousands of open, unfulfilled jobs. these don't have american kids applying for them because they do not have an education. only one out of 10 public schools in the united states even teaches computer science. this is really something that we as a society have to change. another part tied to that problem is immigration. because we cannot find all the computer scientist and engineers, we look abroad. we educate a lot of foreigners, non-us residents. we educate them in computer science. we get them phd's.
still, we make it hard for those people to stay. the interesting image that everybody can grasp is that every time a phd is handed out in the united states to someone who is not an american. a green card should be stapled to it. >> you are an advocate of putting the right policy in place. are there policies that would help us reduce the inequality? >> yes. there is a tendency to conflate income inequality and stagnant wages. there are -- they are separate but conflated questions. i think we should focus on increasing incomes at all levels. president clinton talked about this every day. it is his driving vision. anything that promotes economic
activity will help address those issues. i happen to believe in collective bargaining. i think it is a good idea. unions should work with companies to help make them effective. increased minimum wage. >> on a federal level, you get a bunch of people together, you sit down, try to figure out if increasing the minimum wage would adversely affect jobs. i don't have that kind of analysis available. i think on the national level it would be a good number. >> any other impediments we should talk about. [laughter] >> i could spend all day talking about it. let me ask both them a question. i am a very strong supporter of regulatory protection across a
whole range of areas where the private sector by it self does need to function within the framework of a regulatory system. we could do a better job of balancing the costs and benefits. i have a feeling -- you are not going to disagree. >> infrastructure, different types of regulation, there is always a need for balance. balance between business interests as well as appropriate infrastructure standards, environmental standards. i think this will be a work in progress. i am very optimistic, particularly when i look at the state and local level. we are sitting in a location, colorado, that has had an excellent balance of the needs of energy manufacturing and the environment. it is combined with a good business approach.
>> an issue that i know is near and dear to you -- ride sharing. we had a flareup in seattle. uber, it is a revolutionary, transformative kind of transportation. now people are realizing that there are people who are getting rid of their cars. it is more economical to use uber. i did it for a week is an experiment. in seattle, the seattle city council took a vote to cap the number of uber drivers are allowed to be in seattle. a very low number, something lower than what the market was demanding. there was a huge uproar. the people wanted uber. the mayor felt pressure and later they reversed a decision. >> new disruptive companies like
>> welcome back to our special report. with more from former president and cgi founder, bill clinton. i'm not going to ask you about secretary clinton's decision to run for office. if you feel like sharing that, i am sure we would all be happy to hear it. >> i'm for whatever she wants to do. this is a rewarding thing. i wanted to say to all of you that the fundamental fact of power in a highly integrated, interdependent world is that it is more dispersed. the good news is you have more of it. you can come here and form alliances and increase your impact. the bad news is people are trying to have more influence too.
the traditional nationstate all over the world is under stress, which is driving some people to support more authoritarian governments. we don't want that in america. it's not like you can't have a meaningful life. for the rest of the life of everybody in this room, you will live in a period where power is more dispersed. the power will go to the people who are most effective in recognizing the new realities, organizing, and deploying for it. whatever she decides to do, she's going to do good. >> what does that mean about you? you have spent more than a decade out of office devoting your life, creating a foundation
for the public good. what would the return to the white house for your family mean for the foundation for the work you are engaged in? >> i hope that we would be able to continue to do that with what we do. that we would set up certain rules, be totally transparent, so that no one would think that someone was helping the clinton foundation because they wanted an edge with the federal government. when hillary was secretary of state, i cleared every speech i gave. i cleared in advance on what the policy would be. the white house developed a policy that i reported every penny we got. if you made a mistake, someone could see it. i don't think we should shut down the clinton global initiative.
more than half a million people in the world get their aids medicine from contracts we negotiated. we should not have to shut it down. if she were to run and become president, the last things she needs is for me -- [indiscernible] [laughter] she is the ablest public servant i have known. i would help. whenever was asked to do, i would do. just like a did for president obama. just like i did for president bush. you have been a former president, you need to show up.
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