tv With All Due Respect Bloomberg March 21, 2016 8:00pm-9:01pm EDT
>> with all due respect to jimmy stewart there's a new kid in this town. mr. trump goes to washington. >> mr. trump goes to washington. >> mr. trump goes to washington. >> mr. trump goes to washington. >> mr. trump goes to washington. >> mr. trump goes to washington. >> good morning to you both. mr. trump as you mentioned goes to washington. >> greetings from the bloomberg washington bureau. just down the road from here white house hopefuls of both parties are addressing the annual conference of the powerful pro israel lobbying group. all three republican candidates are speaking this evening. donald trump's speech will be
by far the one that gets the most attention. later in the program we'll show you my conversation with a pair of rabbis who are concerned with trump's policies and his rhetoric. to further illustrate the tough crowd trump will face this evening check out oat investigation hillary clinton got this morning when she spoke to the group and called out mr. trump for previously suggesting he would not take sides in the israeli-palestinian conflict. >> yes, we need steady hands not a president who says he is neutral on monday, pro israel on tuesday, and who knows what on wednesday, because everything is negotiable. israel's iends, security is nonnegotiable. >> so we'll listen to more of hillary clinton's aipac remarks later. what markers did she put down this morning for donald trump?
>> i'm going to get to the pro israeli side of you no matter what you do. it couldn't have been a stronger pro israeli speech than she gave. clearly, as you say, it was directed at him. the sound bite you just used. later at the end she said if you see bigotry oppose it. if you see violence condemn it. if you see a bully stand up to him. who do we think she was talking about there? >> president obama has troubled relationships with aipac. it is hard to imagine his secretary of state coming in and being on such a home-court advantage but she was. and she now has made it very difficult for donald trump to come in with a better reception. my question to you is can he do well enough tonight to even things out a little bit or she basically boxed him in? >> i think you can't even things out. maybe he can somewhat diminish his disadvantages. you are absolutely right. you asked what kind of marker she set for trump. what kind of marker did she set for herself? she tried to cleanse her record today and i think whatever
residual resentment there was which was minimal to begin with i think she probably ended most of it today. >> for whatever reason and much to the frustration of barack obama the clintons can basically take the same positions he does on israel and yet american jews at least of the aipac stripe trust her and her husband more than they trust barack obama. >> they do. we ought to note this is the conservative side of jewish americans. >> that's right. >> so if this group is strong for her and has problems with him, that really does spell trouble. >> there are plenty of democrats in the group. it is a very big crowd. she was a pro. besides laying down the markers against trump she gave a very well organized, classical politician aipac speech. a lot of pressure on him tonight. we'll talk more about that in a bit. today at the washington, d.c. old post office which is soon to become this september they say a trump hotel, donald trump held a press conference. it was an extraordinary event. i was there with many other reporters from washington and around the country. trump took a lot of questions. the one that got a lot of
attention afterwards was one that the possibility that has speaker paul ryan might be working behind the scenes despite what he is saying publicly to work donald trump. trump responded by repeating republican leaders especially speaker ryan are reaching out to him left and right. >> he called me last week. he couldn't have been nicer. he was very, just could not have been nicer. i have tremendous -- many millions of people behind me. we want to bring competence back to the country. we want to bring sanity back to this country. do a lot of great things. to be honest with you the republicans should be embracing -- look. there is something happening with our country that has never happened to this extent. millions of additional people are going out and voting in primaries. you know in the democrat case they're down 35%. nobody cares about hillary and bernie in terms of voting. they're down 35%. we're up 72% and it looks like
even much more than that. some say we're up over a hundred percent. that's because of me. now, they can play games and they can play cute. i can only take him at face value. i understand do you plissty. i understand a lot of things. but he called me last week. he could not have been nicer. i spoke with mitch mcconnell. he could not have been nicer. if people want to be smart, they should embrace this movement. if they don't want to be smart, they should do what they're doing now and the republicans are going to go down to a massive loss. >> so, al, trump said, repeated what he said the other day on "morning joe" that he is getting calls from republicans in congress who attack him now publicly but are saying privately i want to be for you. i'm going to be for you. he also said before that press conference he met with newt gingrich and current members of congress in one of the first such meetings we know about. how is he doing in terms of reaching some sort of accommodation with official republican washington? >> at best so-so. i expect newt gingrich to be
with him. newt would say where is the train going and i want to get on it. paul ryan privately does harbor tremendous reservations. paul ryan is a jack kemp disciple. there's no one more antikemp and everything in his message, the substance, than donald trump. the problem trump has is a three-legged stool. there are people who worry about the politics, that they'll lose a lot of states. people who worry about his positions, the strong conservatives, and a number of others who say is he fit to be president? that's a tough -- >> what's in it for trump? i'm a little surprised. i understand the bounds between saying i'm an outsider. he was asked why am i onboard. what is in it for him to try to win members of congress over? >> well, i think he has to do it on his terms. >> he is. >> which he is basically trying to do. he can't say i've sold out. he can't give a wink and a nod i don't really mean what i'm saying on immigration. i think it is in his interests to say i can come close to putting this party together. i don't think he can.
i don't think anybody can. >> i think it'll help him at the convention. his eyes are on getting the right number of delegates and if he falls short, if he has official washington on his side, i think it's more likely he can get the left 50 or 75 he needs. >> some of official washington. he's not going to have official -- but some of them. i think the opposition has not been in any way intimidated by the last couple days. i think it's as strong as ever. >> although you do see some criticism particularly of paul ryan for saying we know what he thinks privately. why isn't he being more outspoken? >> he's the speaker of the house number one. he has that day job. he is the chairman of the convention. i think ryan is in a difficult position. >> very. >> even some conservatives have been critical of him the last couple days. >> yes. >> all right. as we said, donald trump and two dozen republicans or so converged for a 90-minute meeting at a law firm here in town. among those reportedly in attendance senator jeff sessions and congressman chris collins and tom reid who all
endorsed trump as well as former capitol hill heavyweights newt gingrich and jim demint. al, he's gotten some endorsements clearly as trump has said he's right and others are considering endorsing him. what risks does a current member of congress take if they endorse donald trump if any? >> for a number of them a big risk and a big risk if they don't. it can be a lose-lose. charlie cook who was as good a political wise man as there is moved 10 house races today toward the democratic side. a number of those were held by democrats anyway. nowhere near close to the 30. but the house -- people are beginning to say the house can be -- barbara come stack out here in suburban maryland is petrified about running on a ticket that has donald trump at the top. there are other people who if they run away from him are going to really pay a price with the trumpites. >> it's really surprising to me you have a few people like those at the meeting today, chris christie, and the governor of florida, but so few others have endorsed. this has been said before. if trump had the lead he had,
the poll numbers he had, he'd have a lot of endorsements. >> one thing that stung me, he won the massachusetts primary and won it convincingly and a couple days later the republican governor charlie baker came out against him. >> not only against him. >> that's not what you normally see in politics. >> but that is massachusetts, a strong republican state for trump. >> but he won south carolina, lindsey graham and nikki haley have come out against him. >> i wonder what the tipping point will be. when will the members of congress think it is worth endorsing him? are they holding back for the politics or on principle? a lot of people from conservative states you would think by now might have endorsed him. >> i think they want to see how it plays out. they want to see will there be a conservative candidate. how do they play that? can they duck and bob and weave? you know, do a muhammad ali? so i think this is something that really has him traumatized. >> we should say ted cruz and john kasich are not picking up all the endorsements either.
mark: out in the wild, wild west two states are holding their presidential contest on the republican side tomorrow leading up to the utah caucuses. a new poll by a firm called y 2 analytics wh we respect showed donald trump not in first or second but third in that poll. ted cruz picked up the endorsement of the governor of utah today and is tops in that poll above 53% followed by john kasich at 29% and trump had
11%. cruz if he gets over 50% wins all the delegates so that is a big threshold. he has invested time and money in arizona. it's a closed primary but is still generally considered trump country. most polling has him ahead. al, the cruz folks clearly think there is at least the possibility of stealing that state away from trump. how good are his chances of winning both and if he does how big a deal is it? al: it would be a big deal if he won both because he is considered so far behind in arizona. they've been voting for a month. the cruz contention if he comes close is those people who voted on primary day -- mark: right. showing momentum. al: his only problem in utah, this is where the john kasich issue becomes relevant. as you said, if you get more than 50% you take all of the 40 delegates. if kasich ends up with 33 or 34 that could deny cruz his 50. still win the state but he'd like a sweep. mark: win or winner take all -- trump has not done well in states with high percentage of mormons. al: higher utah establishment.
the current governor, former governor mike lee, mitt romney. i think there's a sense among them that this is a guy who has not been as religiously tolerant as they'd like. mark: unless cruz somehow won them both and we should say probably not going to win arizona, wisconsin becomes such a big deal. al: it does. just a little thing. north dakota is before that. he does well in caucus states. if he wins utah, comes close in arizona, and really triumphs in north dakota, that sets him up well for wisconsin, which is a big challenge. mark: cruz's campaign manager desperately wants kasich out of the race and claims in a two way he would win. i'm not sure if is true in the northeastern states or out west, california, etcetera, but i think he has a pretty good argument in wisconsin. cruz, trump, 101 in wisconsin, cruz could win that. al: if they come up with a conspiracy and say you go here and you go here. mark: although kasich isn't really playing in arizona he certainly is playing hard in utah to pick up delegates. he's got the support of another member of the establishment there former governor mike
limbt, very much for kasich. i think there is no doubt that if cruz has a great night tomorrow it could change the race. a good night puts him in a pretty commanding position vis-a-vis kasich not trump. al: i agree. mark: all right. when it comes to the antitrump arsenal, the numbers show the outside group dedicated to stopping trump's march to nomination raised a december ents amount in february. and club for growth action raised $4 million in the same month. more than four times as much as they raised in january. so there are other avenues of course you could give to stop trump including to groups supporting in the campaigns of kasich and cruz. al, though these groups have not slowed trump down much so far if you are a wealthy person and you want to give money to some entity to stop trump where is the best place? al: you and me. nothing is working so far. i think if they have to have a message you and john have made
this point it's consistent with the candidate's message. if they are just doing it ad hoc that is one of the reasons it hasn't worked. they have to have a more consistent theme. they really have thrown the kitchen sink in. mark: still all over the map. the cruz super pac is the best place to put the money to me. i'm not endorsing them but in terms of pure political strategy it has to be a way to stop cruz. the cruz super pac is pretty well funded and they've done some work that you could argue has had an effect. i think it's got to be if trump is going to be stopped it has to be by ted cruz or john kasich or both. al: i agree. then what do you focus on? is it the business deals, trump university, is it, you know, his flip flopping on issues? all of those have been tried and nothing has worked so far. i am told there are people spending lots of time trying to find out lots more about donald trump. mark: a lot of them are democrats. al: yes and hoping the republicans do a lot of their work for them. mark: i'm amazed ted cruz doesn't see him himself.
i don't get a sense of what ted cruz thinks the silver bullet is if there is one to stop trump. al: because nothing has worked so far, mark. mark: all right. switching now to slightly overseas about 90 miles off florida in havana today president obama held meetings with the cuban president castro marking the first official talks between the two governments since the cold war. afterward, during a press conference, the two men stood side by side and spoke about normalizing relations between their countries and also acknowledged conflicting views on how cuba should be run. president obama: the relationship between our governments will not be transformed overnight. we continue as president castro indicated to have some very serious differences including on democracy and human rights. mark: president castro got pretty heated at times when asked about political prisoners and human rights violations in his country. president obama was pretty gracious throughout. there have been a lot of photo ops. al, how is the trip going so far for consumption back in
america? al: just imagine if bill clinton had tried to do this 20 years ago. he would have been just murdered for it. he couldn't have gotten away with it. you know what? times have changed. this is a terrible regime. i mean, they were harassing the ladies of the white, the dissidents before obama even got there. reuel castro denying, you know, there are any prisoners there. it is a terrible regime. people say, hey, the embargo hasn't worked. let's turn the page and see if we can change them. i don't know if they can but i don't think this will hurt obama at all. mark: public opinion has flipped so dramatically. you've got members of congress, republicans supportive of this. former commerce secretary gutierrez who opposed changing the policy is now supportive of changing it. i do think some of the photo ops have been a little bit rough. and maybe not sent back the best message but for most americans i think this is just a vestige of the cold war and while president obama will take huge hits in the conservative media on the internet, etcetera, this is probably a good trip for him politically and for the party. the democratic party, which
mark: welcome back here in washington, d.c. as i mentioned earlier where hillary clinton spoke to aipac this morning and gave a very well received speech. let's loork at a little bit of that now. we're going to break down some of what she said. we looked at some earlier. here is now another of the jabs
she took at donald trump's past promise to be, "a neutral guy" as president in the israeli-palestinian negotiations. >> i have sat in israeli hospital rooms holding the hands of men and women whose bodies and lives were torn apart by terrorist bombs. i've listened to doctors describe the shrapnel left in a leg, an arm, or even a head. that's why i feel so strongly that america can't ever be neutral when it comes to israel's security or survival. we can't be neutral when rockets rain down on residential neighborhoods, when civilians are stabbed in the street, when suicide bombers target the innocent.
some things aren't negotiable. and anyone who doesn't understand that has no business being our president. mark: so it's going to be interesting to see if trump revisits this question of neutrality tonight. but at the time he said it he didn't seem tongue he was making a gaff but thinks it is actually the better position to say a president who is an honest broker needs to say going in he's neutral. al: he was thinking like a deal maker and unfortunately the middle east doesn't work that way. mark, there was not a pro israeli zone she didn't touch today. everyone -- she praised her ties with rabin, her ties with netanyahu. it was only about five years ago when she gave a speech and talked about the indignity of occupation. you didn't hear that today. i expect some of her policy advisers probably worry she went a little too far but as you said it was a very effective speech. mark: the peace process is so broken down.
with the exception of the additional settlements there aren't that many tough choices to make unless you're like trump and you want to break off into an area which is not necessarily safe. if you want to play it safe right now it is pretty clear where you need to come down on almost every issue. al: i think it gets you through this year and through the election if she is elected president to go through four years without having the israeli-palestinian issues somehow ensnare you would be novel. mark: yeah. though again she will benefit from following the president she would follow because the israelis will be happy with probably almost anyone elected because of whatever, for whatever reason -- al: feelings were good about both her and her husband. mark: right. all right. clinton continued to use the speech to convey she understands the concerns of the jewish communities both in israel and abroad. >> the united states and israel must be closer than ever, stronger than ever, and more determined than ever to prevail against our common adversaries and to advance our shared values. [applause]
this is especially true at a time when israel faces brutal terrorist stabbings, shootings, and vehicle attacks at home. parents worry about letting their children walk down the street. families live in fear. young ew weeks ago a american veteran and west point graduate named taylor forest was murdered by a palestinian errorist near the java port. these attacks must end immediately. [applause] and palestinian leaders need to stop inciting violence, stop celebrating terrorists as martyrs, and stop paying rewards to their families.
mark: what this made me think of is a possible trump-clinton general election is on foreign policy. she has this mastered. but she could with a little preparation master anything. would it be a debate to match her on foreign policy? al: i think she would be very difficult. who knows what the world will bring us in the next six months? that can change everything. notice the way she artfully handled the iranian issue. she was a supporter of the deal which i suspect a number of people in that room opposed but she spent most of the time really denouncing the iranians. so she is very knowledgeable. she is very clever. and i think her weaknesses, her weakness is that, is she too much of an interventionist? trump gave an interesting interview to "the washington post" today which goes just the other way. can he convince people he's experienced enough to pull that off? mark: in the 1992 campaign george stephanopolus famously said specificity is a character
issue. i suspect the clintons are concerned trump is trying to make the general election personal. the clintons will just talk about policy. and try to convince the public that policy is what counts. al: yes. mark: yep. okay. up next, a couple rabbis who have their concerns about donald trump and are here attending aipac. we'll talk about what they think after this. ♪
aipac policy conference in washington, with the conservative bent, and now we have in our lineup two people who know the aipac audience well. earlier, i spoke with two , from, the rabbi raskin e, from, and rabbi wolp los angeles, and our conversation took place less than a mile away from here at the historical society of washington, d.c. rabbis, thank you for joining us. my grandmother would be proud. how much has donald trump's appearance been the talk of this meeting as much as everything else? wolpe: it has been huge. rabbi: i think his statement
about neutrality, people are anxious to see if he elaborate and provides more detail since he has been so much about that neutral term in the debates. mark: so what is your posture towards the notion of people walking out during speeches? is that appropriate, or not? raskin: i, personally, am not in favor of the walk-out. the nature of aipac is to honor all of the guests, but that does not mean we have to applaud and cheer and celebrate, but there is a jewish value of granting some of the benefit of the doubt, and i think that the aipac community is overwhelmingly prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt to see exactly what policies he will lay out tonight. mark: do you have sympathy for those who walk out? wolpe: i understand what
they intend, but i do not think the message is what they intend. i think they intend to protest the statements he has made that are objectionable, but you do not actually make a point by inviting them to your home and then turning your back on them. if they did not show up, i think i would have more sympathy, or if they had decided not to invite him i would understand , that, but the whole point of aipac is whoever is in power in the united states and israel and the different communities, so i have sympathy for the intention, but i do not have much sympathy for the execution. mark: so there is a great expression we are all familiar with, which is is it good for the jews? i will start with you, rabbi. is donald trump good for the jews? raskin: well, i think there is a lot yet to be seen. mark: with what the jewish
community would like? raskin: well based on what , we have seen so far, what we have heard about whole ethnic and religious groups in women, -- and women, painting people with broad brushes and stereotypical issues. these are things that i think are deep sensitivities to jews and things that have been turned against jews in the not too distant past, and also contrary to jewish values, and if he is going to stick to those tropes, i would say he is not good for the jews. assuming he can transcend that an offer something more inclusive and more humanitarian, then i suppose there is a possibility that he could be good for the jews. mark: if donald trump called you and said, rabbi, i am tinkering with my views, what are three
things that i should do? wolpe: well, the first thing i would say is if you had called me earlier i would tell , you things not to say, but now it would be to say something substantive, not that i will make america or israel great again, so i want to hear a specific policy that i can actually understand and grapple with, and the second is i want to know what it is you intend to do about hezbollah, iran, the threats that surround israel, other than just saying "we will , crush them," because that begins to sound empty and hollow, and as rabbi raskin just said, you do not disdain the value of welcoming the stranger. there was a great german philosopher who said in the
stranger is found the idea of judaism, and that notion that somebody is a stranger is automatically supposed to be disdained and put outside of the circle, you have to reconfigure that to still talk about the concerns that are, in fact, central to this country about immigration and the economy and so on without making it a xenophobic declaration. mark: in one of the most controversial things he has said that would be interesting to this audience is that he wants to be neutral between the israel is and the palestinians. isn't it possible that someone new good help broker peace? i think the term is wrong. to be a convener, i think it is entirely appropriate to care about both populations and the outcome of both people.
that is exactly what an american leader or president should do, but to speak about neutrality, there is a moral kind of tinge to that. that is to say there is an equivalence that might be applied between terrorism and hamas and the lawlessness and -- of what of much is in the territories and the democratic, modern, liberal state of israel. that is a problem with that term, and that is what has troubled so many of us as israel supporters. what is called for is honesty and welcoming of both sides and being concerned about the outcome, but neutrality is up to us, i think. mark: your sense with where hillary clinton stance with aipac, as compared to barack obama who has had, at times, a b relationship. a bumpy relationship.
rabbi wolpe: i think you put it correctly, that she is on more solid footing. i think there is a sense that the emotional connection is much deeper with hillary clinton that -- than it was with barack obama, that she has a feeling for the state of israel that most people feel that he did not have in his gut. nonetheless, what that means is that she was central to an administration that was at times at times really at odds not only with aipac but with the israeli government, even so much at odds that it became sort of a personal quasi vendetta -- that is a question that remains to be seen. rabbiall right, thanks to wolpe and-- rabbi rabbi raskin and the group for hosting us. up next, donald trump goes postal. and that means the old post office. if you are watching us in washington, d.c., you can now listen to us on the radio for
♪ ♪ mark: earlier today, just about the time president obama was holding that press conference in cuba with raul castro, donald trump gave a press conference of his own here in washington at the old post office, a building that will soon be a trump hotel. gave the press corps a tour of the whole thing. it is partially done but not quite done. he also took questions on the walking tour, and also at the press conference, i got things started early in the press conference by asking trump about the presumptive republican
nominee about the presumptive democratic rival. leaving the past aside for a moment and looking forward to a general election between you and secretary clinton, for voters, how would you differentiate yourself from her? mr. trump: i think i'm very different from hillary clinton, to put it mildly. i have a different style. i do not think she will do much with our trade agreements, which are killing our country. people have no idea how important that is. the money that is being drained out of our country is a enormous, and that is not her thing. it is totally my saying. i think she will be very weak with the other countries and the amount of money we subsidize them -- with our military, which nobody even talks about, so we have to make our country's elephant and we have to make our , country, frankly, rich. and we have to rebuild our military. it has been decimated over the years. we have to get the right equipment.
not the wrong equipment. we have to get equipment there that is not there because of political experience and know-how. we want to get the equipment that they really want and not the equipment they are getting because politicians have access to certain companies, and we are going to rebuild our military. and i think that is going to be a big difference. you suggested this morning that she is inconsistent. mr. trump: she does not know anything about my policy. her policies obviously did not work. all you have to do is look at libya. look at anything you want to look at. and they have not worked. if you look back at my projections and my prognostications, they turn out to be very, very accurate. mark: i should say that not everybody considers him the presumptive nominee. he ison the border, but not there yet. i asked him if he was intimidated by the clintons, he made a classic trump face. i cannot do it justice. does he seem to have a bead on this? al: no.
that is gibberish. he said absolutely nothing. at some point, they are going to say, what are you going to do as president? he gave you nothing. you asked a good question, and he -- mark: as he often does. al: "i am going to build the strongest military ever." well, what are you going to do? you understand what the triad is now. what is your different strategic approach? he has not answered any of that. mark: and he talked about the advisors. you and i have not heard of them, but their resumes are ok. i agree with the one you just said. thinking about things in my mind's eye, i think trump will try to negotiate down. and not do a full number, but he does have one good thing going for him. he has to cast her as the incumbent, he just says it is the status quo. if you look at other races, i think if he does that, he does not need to be as specific. he can just argue that she is
the status quo. al: i think anybody else who is half specific good get away with it, but she is the incumbent. she has vulnerabilities. not that other people cannot do that. mark: all right, let's look at another. he was also asked about the delegates he needs to become the nominee, and he said he would have enough delegates to get this thing done. mr. trump: i think we going to get a lot of delegates, and some people say we are going to be at 1450. quite a bit higher. we will see. the worst that happens is i go back to this, which is not so bad, you know, not so bad but i , think we are doing very, very well, and i think we will qualify over that number, and if we are 30 short or 50 short, nobody else is going to be close. i mean, ted cruz is not even going to be close, but if we are a little bit short people, we will have to decide. mark: this is an area where he
is being very shrewd. he is expressing confidence. and, by the way if he does not , get there, he is fine with going back to running hotels. al: which i do not think i believe. the majority of the delegates i think would like to deny him the nomination. i do not see how you can do it. if he goes in 100 or more shot, -- shy, i think it will be very hard for him to get the nomination. mark: it is possible that if you free up a lot of people, it is possible that his numbers start going down, not up. al: the second ballot. he was asked about his team, and this is one area where he has hired experienced people. he has hired two operatives who do understand republican politics and do know how to count. let's see what happens at the state conventions and who they pick. mark: ok, up next the media and
♪ ♪ mark: in his very first -- column today our friend, jim , rutenberg, wrote this about the complicated and often obsessive coverage of the donald trump presidential campaign. there is his call of the. we will talk about it. jim joins us from miami. jim, congratulations. thanks for being with us. jim: thanks. great,ow much of trump's voluminous coverage is his
doing, and how much of it is the media acting on its own? jim: my favorite quote that my colleague maureen dowd had. "i do these tweets, and they can be completely insignificant, and they break into the news." mark: if trump continues to hit coverage like this, and he is the nominee, and hillary clinton -- if trump continues to get coverage like this, and he is the nominee, and hillary clinton is the nominee do we think that , would be a huge advantage for him? jim: a lot of people -- a lot of the coverage is not positive. do you remember in 2004 when the war was being discussed a lot, and the bush strategists would say, as long as we are talking about the war we are winning. , as long as we are talking about trump, he is winning. al: jim, al hunt.
first of all, a great debut today. in your column, he pointed out that fox and chuck todd from nbc said no more of this special treatment where you get to phone in on some of these interviews which is a much easier , interview, and then i watched stephanopoulos, and he just slam don't -- dunked the moderator. if he does it, or to the others going to cave in? jim: maybe george decides, hey, you know what? those guys are not going to take him on the phone, and i will get a spike in ratings. al: well, as you know a phone-in , interview is much easier than an in-person interview, and he does well in those situations. jim: my impression is that he steamrolled the interviewer, let, but, but, mr. trump, and it is like they cannot break in. these sunday broadcast shows, the traditional public affairs
shows, those shows were based on the candidate at the advent of television. we see them. it is not radio. i do not know why they would want to abdicate that responsibility. something they have probably built over the decades. mark: jim, obviously we have seen in past political campaigns that some candidates get better and more coverage than others. that happens. a scalems may be on more than we have seen? jim: i have never seen anything like it. there was a report and graphic last week. i know you guys have talked about it and that your viewers have seen it, but almost $2 billion in free media coverage for donald trump compared to his next closest competitor, hillary clinton. about half of that. i think that is a disadvantage for ms. clinton. bernie sanders was way lower, and ted cruz was way lower. mark: you have just started this column.
there are the a temptation, i would say, for the foreseeable future, to keep writing about donald trump. jim: yes, i know, and here i am writing about it. and i am saying everyone is giving donald trump all of this coverage. hall of mirrors factor here. he is a huge -- i am not going to use that word. he is a giant story. of course, we are going to have to mull over this and explore it for months to come if not years if he wins the presidency. al: jim, years ago after joe mccarthy there were postmortems , that were devastating for the press. after this election, is our business -- i am talking in generic terms, not "the new york times" specifically -- are we going to look bad? jim: with this period, i do not
think anyone can say this period is good to mostly -- is good. mostly bad. you mentioned at the top of this that chuck todd said he is not going to take donald trump on the phone anymore. cnn said we are not going to get roped into doing donald trump in a kind of qvc interview. maybe there will be a giant change, and it has to happen soon, so i am hoping there is a correction here for all of our sakes. it is better for donald trump to have a different kind of coverage, and better for democracy to have a different kind of coverage. al: but the suits do not want to give up that revenue. jim: it is too hard, and i was riding in the column, as -- as i column, i have kind of made the rounds to get back in touch with the media industry that i covered years ago, they need that revenue, and
influence they draw all of the , presidential candidates but bernie sanders. they take it seriously. al: nobody else can do that. mark: ok, check out bloombergpo litics.com, and you can see our new spotify streaming tracker to show you what republican and democratic people are listening to on the music service spotify. coming up next, emily chang speaks to the showtime ceo, my high school basketball team it, by the way. thank you to al hunt. we will see more -- have more of "with all due respect." see you tomorrow. sayonara. ♪
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