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demons? >> be a good guy for a while. don't get into trouble. controversial, and maybe you can get your career back. >> action! i'm here at the flamingo theater in las vegas, current home of american pop icons donnie and marie osmond. >> i'm a little bit country. >> and -- ♪ i'm a little bit rock and roll ♪ >> they sat down to give me an extraordinary interview in which marie talks frankly about her shock remarriage to her first husband here in vegas recently. >> we're grateful for what we have now. and he is my best friend. and we have history and my children love him. >> she also talks emotionally about the death of her son last year.
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>> it doesn't heal. it just -- god gives you respites. you know, just little breathers. and you know, he's my baby. >> and donny, he gives some great advice to justin bieber on life after being a teen idol superstar. >> if i was justin bieber, what would you say? >> put the seat belt on, buddy, because it's going to be a bumpy ride. >> the pair of them also explain how they look so damn good after more than 40 years in the business. >> you've admitted to having one dose of botox. >> oh, yeah. i tried it. >> and he this is a primetime exclusive on "piers morgan tonight." >> marie. >> hey. >> it's donny and marie. >> i know. i thought i'd do that -- >> by the way, i want to say welcome to the flamingo, home of donny and marie. >> i love that. >> you know when you call the flamingo that's what they say? welcome to the flamingo, home to donny and marie. it's so cool. >> even you guys, having been in
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show business all your lives, to have your own classic old style theater in vegas -- >> yeah. >> -- your name in lights on the strip. i walked down in morning and there you are, these huge billboards. it must still give even you guys a buzz. >> it's an ego builder. let me tell you, piers. if you're ever feeling bad about yourself, you can just drive by the flamingo and it's like the biggest billboard in the city. >> did you ever imagine in the '70s when you started that show together, did you ever imagine that here you'd be 40 years later nearly, doing this in vegas? >> no. i mean, you think about a career -- and especially being a woman in the entertainment business, you know, you're lucky to get seven, eight years. and you know, we're going on what -- how many -- >> 48 years. >> 48 years now. >> incredible. >> it is incredible. >> and it's consistently, too. even in the show i say how grateful can i be and i know we're both so grateful. we always knew we'd do something together again. but -- >> if i spent 14 hours with my sister, bottles would start
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being thrown in my direction. >> believe me, bottles are thrown backstage. >> i've heard that about you. >> it wouldn't be by me. it would be at me. >> come on, let's call it's way it is. we do rub each other wrong every once in a while. but see, that's what works for donny and marie on stage. everybody can relate to it who has a sibling. but there's something about this relationship that works on stage. >> it is almost unique, i would say, in show business, your relationship. a brother and sister who have been doing what you're doing for so long who still like each other. >> well, let's don't push it. >> you know, there is a -- a different relationship as we have matured. you know, definitely it's not 14 and 16 years old anymore. but you know, there's a mutual respect and it's nice to be out there with somebody who they can tell if something's not working and they're there to cover each other or whatever it is. >> it just happened the other night. marie was feeling under the weather and i filled in for her. and just a couple weeks prior to
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that just the reverse thing happened. i was really feeling bad. she filled in and did some more in the show. pulled it off. >> the bottom line, if it's your sister, you can completely trust each other? >> yes. i can -- >> in a way -- >> i can emphatically say yes -- >> in a way that whoever else you'd work with would never be 100%. >> that's the thing about us, is that people say what keeps you going? i mean, why are you still in the business after these many years? our father taught us such a work ethic, that if there's something worth doing it's worth doing well. when we hit the stage -- i'll tell you something, piers, when we started this thing, we got so much ridicule and comments about oh, you're spending too much money, too many lights. the set, the orchestra, the dancers, the multimedia. you know, you're only going to be here six weeks. so marie and i stuck to our guns. we said this is going to be a great show. we're going to put everything into it. >> and you have to remember, we did our own things for many years. this is like the first time we've worked together -- >> for a long, long time. >> -- in a long, long time. >> so it's almost like -- i'll use the analogy of getting a
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value meal. you know, somebody -- they get more than what they paid for. you come to the donny and marie show. i mean, we hear it every night. >> do you think you're kind of -- not last of because there are still some others around. of that old school ethic of doing these kind of shows. when you see the young performers today, it seems to me they don't have that same ethic. >> you know, i'll tell you what i feel, is i feel very blessed that i got to grow up working with, you know, sammy davis jr. and dean martin-w elvis presley. we worked with -- >> with sinatra. in this theater. >> absolutely. yeah. >> and to learn, to watch, to be literally -- not just watch them but to work with them. and -- >> what did you learn from the greats? what made them great? what's the thing that takes you to that level? >> i don't know if i speak on behalf of marie, but when we put this show together, you can throw as much money as you want at a show. people don't walk out humming the lights and they say oh, those are the greatest costumes in the world. >> but it's important to have those things. >> you've got to walk out with
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people saying i know a little bit more about donny and marie. here's the mark that a lot of people miss now adairks producers miss, is they leave out the heart and soul. and that's what i learned from sammy davis jr., from frank sinatra-s when you went to go see those shows you got to know them. so when people come to see the show -- what are you laughing at? >> we -- >> that's true. i like that. >> we did qvc the other day. >> oh, don't go into that. >> but not even that. >> i heard about that. >> but not even that. he did leave his fly down. but before that -- >> you went in to sell records. >> exactly. i'll do anything to sell a record. >> but just to continue what you were saying. >> what? >> learning from old school. we walk out, and immediately he goes and grabs something that somebody's selling and he starts modeling it. well, the producer cuts to a shot, a still shot of the product. and i thought, boy, that is so not what i did in television. to catch those live moments and see him modeling a dress, that's television. >> who would you most have liked
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to have seen? >> but today it's oh, it's not on the script. >> thank you for telling the world that i was modeling a dress. >> it wasn't on the script. so they panic. >> i know what you mean. who of all the greats that played in vegas would you most have like to have seen in a theater like this? >> we did. >> you saw them all? >> we worked with them. >> i'll give you a great example. i remember going to the hilton. >> that's amazing to me. >> yeah. >> so you performed -- >> you name a name and we'll tell you if we worked with them. >> did you perform with sinatra? >> yes. >> and sammy davis? >> yes. >> dean martin? >> yes. elvis. >> yes. >> elvis in vegas? >> i'll tell you about elvis. >> john wayne. i mean, you name it. it's crazy. it really is nuts. ethel merman. >> i went to go see elvis presley, his last show -- or his closing night show i should say at the hilton. and we were opening up the next night. and i remember watching the king on stage. he could do no wrong. i mean, the audience was in the palm of his hand. the next night i'm in his dressing room with my brothers getting ready and the door opens up. "hi, everybody, i'm elvis presley." and he talked like this, too. >> that's good. >> "i want to say hi and good
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luck." >> that's my brother. >> i thought, how cool is that? the king of rock and roll just walks through the door and he's a real person. it taught me a lot about leaving the star on stage. when you go off stage, you're just another person. and it really put the whole show business thing into perspective for me. >> it was their job. >> what else made those guys the best? >> they worked. >> i think they didn't look at it as being a celebrity. they looked at it as being an entertainer. it was their job. and it was every day how do i be better, how do i get -- i mean, they loved that audience. we love our audiences. we want them to leave feeling that, you know what, it's an expensive ticket, it's not as expensive as some of them here, but when they leave they got their money's worth, they had an experience, they had something that brought them back to some kind of memory. whether it was way back, the donny and marie original shows or a current something they saw like "dancing with the stars" or whatever, they walkway feeling that they got to know us better. >> here's another thing, piers.
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sometimes i feel like entertainers, young entertainers that jump into the business, get a lot of fame and fortune -- >> wait a minute, we're wunyoun. >> whatever. >> you actually look ridiculously young. i don't know how you've done this. >> so many people feel entitled. i'm on stage, you need to like me. well, yeah, there's that attitude, that confidence on stage, but they forget about getting out there and working and doing all those little gigs, 366 days a year, and going through the work. going through the motions. >> so being a proper star really from what you're saying is looking out to an audience and making them feel as important as they're making you feel. >> absolutely. and you know -- >> because i don't see that in so many of the new acts. i don't see that. >> what's really crucial -- i mean, i remember milton berle, the first time i worked with him, and he came on and he took a script and he just started slashing -- no, this won't work. and this -- he worked to make that silly little three-minute sketch brilliant. and it wasn't just oh, that's okay, well, the writers -- he worked with the writers. he worked -- it was a constant
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effort by the people we got to work with to make everything the best it could be. even if it was a stupid sketch, which usually it was on our show. >> do you remember what groucho marx did to you? >> yeah. >> okay. this guy -- dirty old man. >> who, groucho marx? >> pinched my butt. >> pinching marie's butt the whole time. >> wasn't it groucho who said you're only as old as the woman you feel? >> oh, i love that! >> that's groucho. and i would have been 14 1/2. no, 15. which would have been illegal. nowadays. >> good old groucho. they don't make them like him anymore, do they? what was john wayne like? >> john wayne was a very stoic man. >> tall. >> and just -- >> so sweet. >> he'd talk like this really -- >> he was john wayne. >> i'm doing a lot of impressions. >> you're good. >> "well, thank you, kid." >> don't encourage him. >> you should come onmarksmarks.
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>> maybe i could get a gig. >> we're going to take a break. when we come back, we'll get to the nitty-gritty. you got married. not you. >> i got married 33 years ago. >> you just got remarried to your ex-husband. >> my first husband. >> unbelievable. we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible.
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pyramid. hark. wise is the maiden who keeps a crackling fire on such a frosty day. >> sir, you cannot imagine how glad i am to see you. >> hmm. i smell smoke. >> donny and marie, we're talking about vegas, and it's great to be there. and it's all very exciting. the most exciting thing to happen in vegas is you got married. >> that's the most exciting thing? >> well, because you got married to a guy you married before. >> it was the most exciting thing for me that i've done in my life. >> tell me, how did this happen? >> well -- >> you got married how long ago? >> it's been 29 years. >> 29 years ago. >> see, i'll forever be 29. >> 29 years ago you marry this guy, and the marriage only lasts three years? >> uh-huh. >> and you get divorced. why did you split up then?
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what was wrong then? >> you know, piers, i think too young. the world was watching us under a microscope. just a lot of things went into play. but, you know, you move on. your heart's broken. we have a child together. and, you know, looking back, it is what it is. the thing that i find fascinating about now is that, you know, he's so sweet. and he still is the core of who i fell in love with. >> you remarried, but he never did, is that right? >> no, he never remarried, no. >> because he never remarried, did you, in the back of your mind, ever think i wonder if one day -- >> i really did not. no. there was no we would ever get -- i mean, really, do you really think that way? no. but, really, it was our son who i was moving here. and he said, dad, mom needs some help moving.
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and we've always kind of known each other and been amicable and friendly. but it wasn't until two years ago that we thought, well, let's give this a shot. >> that was after you'd split up and divorced your second husband -- >> oh, yeah, i'd been divorced almost, what six years now or something like that. >> so you were a single woman. he was a single guy. circumstance of vegas. so what goes on in vegas -- >> stays in vegas. >> -- in your case stayed in vegas. >> no, it was just we didn't really want anybody to know we were dating because if it didn't work out that hurts children. i really was set on being single. >> did your son know that you were dating? >> no. >> how long did you keep it from him? >> when we told him we were getting married. >> seriously? >> can i just interject a thought? i thought the most beautiful part of that wedding was the fact that stephen, their son, was one of the witnesses to that marriage. to me it was the culminating -- it just gave me chilled when i saw that. >> amazing. >> the story is it's a
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cinderella story with a lot of bumps in the road with a beautiful ending. >> it is completely that. and wonderful for you after all you've been through. what i find extraordinary is that you're dating your son's dad. >> yeah. >> and he doesn't know. what did he say when you told him? >> well, can you imagine if it didn't work out? that would be a double hurt. >> and your son is nearly 30 now? >> he's 28. yeah. >> don't make me any older than i am. >> what was your reaction? >> i thought it was fantastic. >> he was the first person i've told. >> because i've always had this familial relationship with steve. i've always loved the guy. you know, he's just -- he was a great brother-in-law. it hurt me for my sister but really hurt me to see them fall apart like the way they did. >> for any brother, when you see your sister have her heart broken as you say you did the first time when the marriage fell apart, doesn't part of you feel that protective thing of i hope this doesn't happen again with this guy? >> let's go one step further. it's always been uncomfortable between -- at least for me between us that i have a very
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successful marriage for 33 years and she didn't. because we've always shared our careers and everything together. and it's always been very difficult part for me. but when i saw that -- i'm kind of getting emotional about this. when i saw them coming back together, it was a great moment. >> it is emotional. it's a remarkable story. >> the best is when we were kneeling across the altar, when we were married in vegas, not by elvis, it was in the mormon temple -- >> it wasn't the drive-through chapel. >> but they ask the man first, and he said yes. and you know, our eyes were very teary-eyed. it was beautiful. but i saw our son sitting there, and he was smiling. and then it was my turn to say it next. and all of a sudden, this look on his little face kind of like, mom, you'd better say yes. and then i said, yes. and his little face just beamed. >> oh, it was perfect. >> it was beautiful. >> what was the moment for you when you thought i want to be back with this guy? was there a moment?
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>> you know, the only thing i can say is when it's right it's really right. and there's not one piece of doubt in me that we weren't always right. it's just we're smarter now. >> do you think the reason that stephen never remarried is that he quietly hoped one day -- you're nodding. you think that? do you think that? >> i just think i'm a hard habit to break. no. >> isn't that a song? i feel it coming on. and even more incredibly, you wore -- you wore the same dress that you wore when you first married him. >> yeah. i had designed this beautiful dress. my daughter rachel helped me design it. she designs my clothes in the show. but it showed up five days before the wedding in pieces. i'll show you. it was crazy. and four days, five days before i got my dress, i found out in my garage, a box with my original wedding dress. piers, i didn't even know i had
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it still. and so i took it down and i was having it, you know, dry-cleaned and whatever, put away again because it had been opened. well, immediately i start crying because this dress was a mess, the one i designed, and the lady who was helping me, she goes, where's that dress? i said it's at the dry cleaners. so we called them up and said, have you started cleaning it yet? they said no, we haven't. i said i need it back. and i put it on and it fit. yeah. it's crazy. >> so you're the same size exactly as you were 26, 27 years ago? >> i had to let it out just a tiny bit right across my upper back. and, you know, just like that much. >> there are women all over america going, i wish i could get into my dress -- >> it was a waist cinch belt. i was so happy. >> what did you think, donny, when you saw her in that dress again? >> it was beautiful. i have a picture up in my dressing room that -- they gave me the picture. >> did you get it? >> yeah. >> i left a picture. >> and i started crying. there's my sister in the wedding dress, the original
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wedding dress. >> back with the guy she loves so much. >> back with the guy -- i mean, it's a picture of my wife and myself, steve and marie. and it's just -- it's one of my favorite pictures right now. >> we're going to take another short break right now. when we come back, we're going to talk more about the wedding and some special significance to the day you got married. ♪ it ain't all about the money sometimes ♪ ♪ it don't take a lot ♪ when you count up what you got ♪ ♪ if you got love ♪ you're living the good life to be one of the 10 people to win the chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac of your choice. just push your blue button and tell the advisor you want to enter to win a car. ♪ you don't even have to be an active subscriber. so push it now. before all 10 cars are gone. no purchase necessary. see rules at to enter without a blue onstar button. sweepstakes ends may 31st.
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marie, i want to talk to you about the day that you -- >> what do you want to talk to me about? >> well, actually, it's sort of a serious thing, actually. >> should i leave? >> no, i want you to stay, too. the day you chose to get married was a very significant day. people didn't realize that really until they worked it out. it was the day that your mother was born. and it was the day that your son michael was born who so tragically passed away a year ago. did you choose that day deliberately or was it just a freak coincidence? >> no, i chose it deliberately. it's one of the reasons why we kind of hurried to do it. it was either do it again or do it in -- >> the next break was the end of august. >> end of august. and i didn't want to wait till august. and i was born on my father's birthday. and i always celebrated with him. and michael always celebrated with my mom.
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and it was chosen because i -- that was a great day. that's the day he was born. and it was a wonderful, wonderful gift. he's an amazing boy. >> what did you -- >> and that way they could all be there kind of symbolically. >> yeah, completely. i get that. >> and i know my mom had something to do with getting steve and me back together. i know she did. i think she even put that dress in my garage. >> would she have been happy your mom? >> oh, yes. my mother -- >> our parents loved steve. >> they loved steve, right. >> what were you thinking about michael on the day you got married? given that it was the day he was born. >> as a matter of fact, we took i apicture -- >> that's right. >> -- i took a picture with stephen and all the kids, and i had donny stand in for michael. and we're going to put michael's face on his body. >> photoshop me out. >> really? >> she does that a lot. she photoshops me out a lot. >> i watched the oprah interview you did. you talked about michael's death. and donny, you came on as well. i was getting emotional watching it.
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i mean, it was heart-rending to see you talk about all that. i don't want to go over that all over again. i was struck by one thing. do you ever get over it, or do you just learn to deal with it? what's the reality? >> you never get over that. somebody walked up to my daughter and said, "so, are you over that now?" and she -- her heart broke. no. you know, there's always a place that is set in your heart at the dinner table. there's always a celebration where he's there. it doesn't heal. it just -- god gives you respites, you know, just little breathers. and you know, he's my baby. so kind of a -- i had -- always had great empathy for people who lost a child because of my work with children's miracle network. and being one of the founders. i've been with people who have lost their children. and i really thought i felt what they feel. and you do.
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but it's a really lousy club to belong to. >> it's the worst parental nightmare, isn't it? >> well, you know, god says that you go through the sorrow to know the joys. and i know the great joy of his life. and he went through so much. and i learned a lot from the things that he went through, too. actually, in a lot of ways, going through -- his challenges helped me wake up from my own bad situations. and my past marriage and everything else. and he was -- you know, michael, little archangel. he was an angel and is an angel still. and i feel him. i felt him that day. i really did. >> you felt his presence on your wedding day? >> yeah. and my mom. i'm telling you, i know my mom. i'm her only daughter. i know my mom. >> donny, what was it like for you to see your sister go through such a crushing tragedy and be working with her at the same time? >> you can only imagine what we went through here at the flamingo.
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she went on -- tried to go on stage a week after that ordeal. and she did. but then after a week of doing it she just collapsed. she said, "i can't do this." >> i got so sick. and lungs, the symbolic, or whatever, emotional is grief. i couldn't breathe. i was coughing. i couldn't even sing. >> does performing act as a release as people often say it does? is it a way of getting back into your life? >> you've got to be careful about that, piers, because it can be the wrong kind of medicine if you take too much of it. if you live for this, that's wrong. this is our job. i mean, we love doing what we do. but if you use it to cover up pain, just cover up pain, then you disregard all the things -- all the dirt in your life you keep sweeping under the carpet, and it gets really dirty under there. at some point in time you've got to pull up the carpet and clean the dirt. it was great that marie was busy. and she did, she faced the issues, she addressed them and
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took care of them. >> i mean, marie, for you when you looked out whurks fir, when went back out and saw this audience, they would have known what happened to you. probably amazed that you were performing. did you draw a great comfort from the audience reaction? >> you know, everybody have their reasons for doing things. for me, i had postpartum depression. and i think part of me was -- if i didn't work, i don't know that i ever would again. and also, i believe in service. when you're in really great pain, if you step outside of your own pain and serve other people, it really helps. and that was my way of serving, making people feel better. and the way i coped with it at that time. >> but it was so interesting, piers, the amount of support that she got. not just from her family. but the band, the audience. everybody here at the flamingo. >> they were my strength. >> they rallied around marie. and it was so interesting.
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it was so cool for us to see the amount of friendships that come out of the woodwork when you're hurting. >> yeah. >> i think that really helped save her. >> actually, that week a lady came through and gave me the best piece of advice. i asked her, i said, does it ever get better? and she said no, it won't. and that actually was very comforting to me. because -- and i never would have had that advice if i had just gone in my room. and i needed to be strong for my children. i needed to show them that you have to keep moving forward. and it was really tough. >> we do a meet and greet after every show where quite a few people come back to get autographs and sign pictures and all that kind of stuff, get to talk to us. and it comes up nightly, obviously. and the support and the stories that people tell us. that's one of the nicest things about this. >> he was my rock. >> the nicest thing about this gig is that those meet and greets after the show where you can have that one-to-one contact with the fan, with the public,
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that really helped support us over -- >> we have amazing fans. >> when you say donny was your rock, in what way? >> well, you know, he could tell i was hurting. i think there were times that i think he was hurting even more in some ways when i was feeling strong. so just the fact that i said i need to work. and he said, okay, i'm here for you, whatever you need. and i just -- i really was afraid if i didn't, i would never be able to get back again. working and doing things and i'm glad i worked through it. it was really hard, really hard. but. it was, like you said, the fans, the support, it pulled it through. >> we're going to take another short break. when we come back, i want to talk to you about the door marked fame that you too were shoved through when you were very young. >> i remember when you asked me this question before. are you sure you want to go there? >> would you still want to go through that? >> oh, piers, piers. okay. we're going to go. i can't get rid of these weeds, or these nasal allergies.
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>> the jackson five. they were amazing, weren't they? tito, jermaine, michael -- >> the osmonds. >> oh, the osmonds. okay. the other ones. >> every girl i've got my eye on age, i don't know, 9 or 10, didn't want to know because she had donny bloody osmond on her wall. >> yeah, that's my middle name. donny bloody osmond. >> everywhere i went -- ♪ and they called it puppy love ♪ >> you do that very well. >> well, i had to. every girl i went out with used to sing it. so you kind of dominated my early life and ruined it. >> thank you. i meant to do that. >> it was a phenomenon. >> it was a crazy time in my life, piers. ? the osmonds were just -- i remember you arriving at heathrow airport to be met by tens of thousands of screaming people. >> do you remember when the balconies collapsed from the weight? >> yes, i do. >> i saw that happen. >> i mean, what -- can you remember much about that? is it all just a weird daze? >> i do.
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but what's really interesting, piers, i've had obviously many years to reflect upon that and figure out what those feelings were really like. when i look at those pictures and the footage and everything, it's almost like i'm looking at a different person. it was a different life. i've gone through so many different incarnations with my life. i look back at the andy williams days. and we've gone through this in years past. the puppy love days, the donny and marie days, the joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat days. >> let me ask you a hard question, donny, because you became one of the most famous people on the planet. the osmonds remain along with the jacksons the most famous show business family in the world. and yet it's taken a heavy toll on the family, on all of you, in various ways. if i could -- because you had no choice, really. you were thrust through that door at a very young age. if i could take you back to the door marked "fame" and give you the option not to go through there, to lead a completely normal, anonymous life, without everything that fame brings, would you take that option? >> if i could have it the way i
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have it at this very moment, i would walk through that door. because i look at the experiences that i've gone through as a teeny-bopper. you know, having that, i look at justin bieber, and my heart breaks for him because i know what he's going to go through. he knows. everybody knows. >> what's he going to go through? >> he's going to go through so much heartbreak. ♪ baby, baby, baby, oh, my he's going to hate it. he probably hates it right now as much as i hated "puppy love." and i hope -- >> do you still hate "puppy love"? >> no. i was just about to say -- >> did he hate "puppy love"? >> when he was younger. >> i've gone full circle and embraced "puppy love" to where i absolutely enjoy singing that song. i sing it here in the flamingo. and i have the footage of me singing it at 14 behind me. >> but there have been moments in your career when "puppy love" has been this massive noomillst around your neck. >> alba tros. yes, amillstone. >> will justin bieber have that? is it inevitable? >> he's got it now. he's got it now. you know, that kind of success at that age can really bite you
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in the shorts. the proverbial shorts. >> what would you say to him? you've do the chance now. if i was justin bieber, what would you say? >> put the seat belt on, buddy, because it's going to be a bumpy ride and there's going to be times where people will say you're not talented anymore. never give up on yourself. you know, my wife was the only person on this planet that i could turn to and say am i going to be able to be a star again? and she said yes, you can do it. despite everybody saying no, it's over with. everybody said it was over with. when i was 20, 21 years old, i'd just gotten married. you know, put yourself in my wife's shoes. all these fans all across the world would have donny osmond burning -- record-burning parties. they would put my albums and burn them. >> and i remember girls having donny osmond wife burning parties. >> yeah. she was the most -- >> like linda mccartney. >> if anybody could write a book, my wife would. but she's not that kind of person. >> how important to you, to you, donny -- we talked about marie's life. but how important to you has it
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been to have the love of a steady wife for 30-odd years? >> 33 years. it was the only thing that kept me sane. i'm not saying this because i'm going to sound egomaniacal saying this. but point to another teeny-bopper star who didn't go through the drugs, you know, the alcohol, the women, and things like that. and i'd have to say my wife is the one who got me through it. my faith obviously was a big factor. but my wife went through it with me and she -- she was my rock. she kept me strong. and five kids and three grandkids later -- >> but he's also been there for his wife. and that's the great love story that they have. is you know, donny could have had anything. he really -- he's had everything in the world offered to him. as i have as well. but as a man, you know, that says a lot about my brother. and my brothers. you know, they're good men. and they learned that from my father, who was an amazing man. but you know, he's been there for his wife and his kids, too, which is very commendable. >> we're going to take another
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short break. when we come back, i want to talk to you about the miracle of the new album. after 30 years. >> after 30 years we finally decided to record it. >> back in the studio. >> yeah. we can hardly wait to talk about that one. ♪ na, na... ♪ na, na-na, na [ men ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ goodbye [ flushing ] ♪ [ both ] ♪ na, na... [ woman ] ♪ na, na-na, na [ men ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ good-bye [ male announcer ] with kohler's powerful, high-efficiency toilets. flush. and done. [ all ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ good-bye
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♪ if you got love ♪ you're living the good life you two have gone back in the studio and made an album
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together. >> after 30 years, piers, can you believe? >> what finally brought you back to recording? >> well, i had to wait until she stopped playing with dolls. then i got serious with recording. >> then my comment would be -- no. >> was it fun? >> well, you know -- i don't know fun is the right word. >> neither of you said yes first. >> when you put an album together, it's a work of art. yeah, we could slap a bunch of songs together on a cd and call it good, ride this donny and marie wave. but you know, you have to put your producer's hat on and your artist's hat on. and it's bliek a blank canvas and you start painting. you know what you want it to look like, but until you start painting and see the final product, you never know. and we took a lot of time and a lot of effort putting this -- >> was it easy -- >> was it fun? it was fun. >> is it hard or easy to be with your own brother when you're making a record? >> oh, you know, i think initially when we -- >> clearly something is going down here. >> oh, you're so full of it.
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>> big time! >> the thing that was fun was the process of picking songs. that was fun. >> that was fun. >> because there was an arbitrator. >> it was really tough, i was working on that album, doing this show and my other album at the same time. so i turned my closet into my vocal booth, and i would go home and, you know, finish this show and then i would sing until like 7:00 in the morning. >> i recorded up in my dressing room here at the flamingo between shows. >> so if i did lead, i'd do lead here, then i'd ship it to him and he'd put the harmony. if he did the lead, i would do the harmonies. so it's not like we really sat and do it. >> it's been well received. >> it has. >> are you pleasantly surprised? >> yes, i have to say i'm pleasantly surprised because "donny & marie" is a big target. for critics it's so easy ton like donny and marie. >> why do you say that? i don't know that that's true. >> let's call it's way it is. it's donny and marie. to hardcore rock and roll and country critics we're easy targets. but to the -- >> i don't agree. what do you think? >> i don't. i think people grew up with us. and i think that it's -- like you can see here at the shows the last -- >> oh, come on.
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>> why would you care what the rock audience think of you? seriously. >> well, to be honest with you, i don't care anymore because i am who i am. >> i think you do. >> i think he does, too. >> maybe deep down inside. because everybody wants to be accepted. when you go out on stage, you want a standing ovation. you don't want to get booed off. >> you never get booed off. >> when you do this show, you wanted to be accepted. >> yes, but i'm quite realistic about who i think watches my show and likes it and who's going to watch it and think, idiot. >> i'm going to tell you something sammy davis jr. told me. the day you stop caring about your show is the day you should quit. >> i agree with that. >> i care about what i do. when this album was put together, i was painstakingly recording my vocals, selecting the tracks -- and i know she did, too. i did more. but -- >> help. >> i care about the product that comes out. when i say donny and marie is an easy target, come on, piers, to some people they are. because they still put me in the
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"puppy love" category, "paper roses" category. so when they -- >> not really. >> hold it. when they do come out and say donny and marie is great, it means so much to me. >> i can tell. >> it means the world to me. >> and it's not like it doesn't mean the world to me too. and especially i think where we agree is that we did this album knowing this could probably be our last album together too. >> oh, i don't know about that. >> and we wanted to -- >> i think she's decided. >> no. but every song would have great meaning and a purpose. and there is something unique about us in the sense i think our blend. >> well, i'll tell you what's unique about the pair of you, actually. >> what? >> it's what you look like is unique to me. you have no right to look that beautiful or youthful. >> thank you. i -- oh, you're talking to her. >> and you. when you shook my hand earlier, it was like i was being crushed by some iron man. >> he's tough. he's in shape. >> i'm going to the gym all the time. >> this show will keep you in shape. >> we're going to take a little break. when we come back, i want to talk about your guns and your whole thing. >> there's a loaded statement. call her.
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♪ so come on. what is the secret to you two looking so youthful? i need to know. let's start with you, donny. because you nearly ripped my arm off earlier.
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you are ripped. >> i go to the gym all the time. >> every day? >> not every day. i am very careful what i eat. i do take supplements. you know. because of food nowadays -- >> do you drink alcohol? >> i have never -- well, accidentally a couple times. but no, i don't drink alcohol, don't smoke. never smoked. i've never really -- >> never taken drugs? >> i've never had a desire to take drugs, no. >> you are mr. squeaky clean, aren't you? >> well, you know what, if that's what it takes to live a good life, yeah, call me squeaky clean. i used to hate that term. goody-goody and all that -- don't you dare. you want to get beat up? call me goody-goody or squeaky clean. but you know what, it's a compliment to me now because it got me through the hard years. >> when you see the likes of lady gaga and others really pushing it in terms of language and -- >> yeah. >> -- sexuality, all that kind of stuff in their lyrics and so on, do you feel offended? >> first of all, let me just make the statement, i think lady gaga is brilliant. you know, as a marketer, as a writer, as an artist she is madonna incarnate in my opinion. but i don't agree with a lot of
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the shock elements nowadays a lot of artists take to get their face on a cover, to get on the charts. you know, in my opinion it's a cheap way to become popular. but i do think she's a very talented woman. >> you've admitted having one dose of botox. >> oh, yeah. i tried it. and you know, the reason why i don't want to do it anymore? because i was smiling like this. it's like, who wants that kind of face? >> marie, talk me through this. i mean, this is -- >> talk me through this. >> dazzlingly sculpted. i mean, i don't even know how old you are, and if i was to guess -- >> i'm 29. >> if i met you, i would say 40. and i would. >> oh, you're so sweet. >> i'm actually being realistic. you look like you're 40. i know you can't be. because we've already discussed your history. >> how come i can't be? >> why don't we pretend you are? >> i like that. that would be my illusion. >> we know about your nutrition thing that you do. but what else do you do to keep in this kind of shape? >> well, i mean, i lost 50
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pounds. and i think the biggest thing is that when women kind of -- you get to a place in life where you take care of your kids, you take care of your husband, you take care of your parents, you stop taking care of yourself. and i think it's important to. >> do you exercise? >> i do. yeah, i do. >> what's the future holding for you? how long are you going to be performing here, for starters? >> well, till the end of this year. they want us longer but we'll see what happens. >> we'll see if we can handle it. >> without killing each other. >> is there anywhere you'd rather be performing? >> oh, there's all kinds of opportunities. but what's different about nowadays than it was in the early '70s, when we first started, is that things are apt to change quickly. it can change on a dime. so you don't lock the future too far in advance because there's so many opportunities. especially right now. with this wave that we're riding with donny and marie. we still have our own individual careers. >> what's your anthem? when you finish up here, the shows. because you're playing tonight. what do you go out on? >> we just changed the show.
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we have a brand new show. well, i'd say almost 80% is brand new. you can't take away some of the staples -- >> but what's the song that -- >> well, "country, rock and roll" is the s. what we're known for. ♪ i'm a little bit country >> but what do we end the show with? ♪ may tomorrow be a perfect day ♪ >> he has no clue what that is. >> i love that one. >> sing the rest of it. ♪ may tomorrow be a perfect day ♪ >> be honest. did you watch "donny & marie"? >> i didn't watch the tv show but i -- >> sing it, marie. i go through this every night. >> sing it. sing the last song. >> i said do you even know this song? and i said be honest. he goes, well, i never watched the tv show. >> it didn't air in britain. >> piers, we never watch your show either. how do you feel? >> well, sing me the song. ♪ may tomorrow >> he loves to sing. ♪ be a perfect day ♪ may you find love and laughter along the way ♪ which is the theme of my 20th anniversary -- >> finish the song, marie. ♪ may god keep you in tender care ♪
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>> i never watched "donny and marie." let me just make one thing clear. we never had it in britain, "donny & marie." >> yes, you did. >> well, we had it but not in a way we used to watch mainstream television. what i want to hear, and this is just for me, i want to hear one more time the song that broke my heart. >> that wasn't our song. >> i want a little bit of "puppy love." the song that you've loved and hated all your life. now i want a bit of "puppy love." >> i'm going to undo my microphone. >> you don't know what you do when you do this. >> what are you doing? ♪ and they >> wait. no. bad lighting. there's my camera. ♪ and they called it puppy love ♪ >> oh, geez. ♪ oh, i'm very embarrassed >> you should be. he should be. >> that's what i grew up on. never mind "donny & marie" the tv show. it was always about "puppy love" for me. donny, marie. >> is this a new