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good morning, everybody. from the cnn center, this is your "cnn saturday morning." 8:00 a.m. in atlanta, georgia, 7:00 a.m. in south dakota. we are talking about yankton because we're keeping an eye on the missouri risker there this morning. parts of that river closed. also interstate 29 closed and the water continues to rise. we'll be checking in plenty this morning with our reynolds wolf. she's been convicted of fraud and kidnapping, held on house arrest for years, and she was married to nelson mandela. winnie mandela rarely gives interviews but she invited us into her south african home. you'll hear what she now thinks of her ex-husband and why she is not too happy with singer jennifer hudson. but first, this morning, this could prove to be an important weekend for republican presidential candidates hoping to get an advantage on their competition. it's the faith and freedom
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coalition having a meeting in washington this weekend. it's actually wrapping up today with three republican presidential hopefuls addressing the group. now she's not officially one, you're seeing there, representative michelle bachmann but the other three, rick santorum, her man cane and newt gingrich will be addressing them but minnesota representative balkm bachmann, house majority leader eric cantor will be addressing the group. bachmann, many are saying, is getting closer to announcing whether or not she will run. some say the signs point to yes she will. but many people, of course, at this conference slamming the president over his health care legislation. >> i will not rest until we repeal obama care. america will not rest until we repeal obama care. i take it to the bank, cash the check, it will be done. it will not stand. the american people will not stand. >> the president and democrats
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in congress demagog our proposal, they have no plan. they seem content to pursue government rationing of health care while our safety net programs are predicted to go into bankruptcy by the trustees who run that program as well as the congressional budget office. >> now the conference is opening its second and last day of meetings, 9:00 eastern time, just about an hour from now. also at 8:30. we'll take you there live for a report from our deputy political director paul steinhauser. >> the president they were going after at that conference yesterday, and you can expect to do the same today, the president this morning is touting the bailout of carmakers. his comments follow a disappointing jobs picture that was revealed by the labor department on friday. you may have seen that. the unemployment rate in this country ticked up to 9.1% and only 54,000 jobs were created for the month of may. the president saying while the country has work to do to improve the economy he remains
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optimistic. >> we've got a ways to go. even though our committee has created more than 2 million private sector jobs over the past two months and continues to grow, we're facing some tough head winds. lately high gas prices, earthquake in japan and unease about the european fiscal situation. that's going to happen from time to time. there are going to be bumps on the road to recovery. we're a people who don't give up, who do big things, who shape our own destiny and i'm absolutely confident if we hold on to that spirit, our best days are still ahead of us. >> now, of course, i mention those numbers for the month of may showed a bit of a slow down in job creation in this country. meanwhile, the president's approval ratings seem to be going up. the latest cnn opinion research poll has the approval rating at 54%. it has been a bit of a day already for u.s. defense secretary robert gates he it touched down in the afghan capital of kabul.
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he is on a farewell tour of sorts. he retires from his post a little later this month. earlier today he reassured u.s. allies attending the annual asia security meeting in singapore, telling them despite america's economic challenges the u.s. will honor its military commitments also called future military ties with china, a priority. from political star to a felony indictment. former senator john edwards says he did not do anything -- or he certainly did do something wrong, but saying he didn't do anything illegal. federal prosecutors accusing john edwards of using campaign money to hide an affair with the campaign worker. edwards' attorney says the money was not a campaign donation, but a gift from two edwards' supporters. joe johns with the story. >> reporter: t.j., john edwards was one of the last dan cats in 2008 for the race for the democratic nomination. this time he was standing up in court facing a six-count
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indictment. the government has charged him with conspiracy, making false statements, the government also says he took illegal campaign contributions, hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations from two individuals in order to cover up an affair he had with rielle hunter during a time when his wife, elizabeth, was sick and dying with cancer. edwards and his defense team signaled quite quickly they were going to fight these charges. first they entered a not guilty plea and then edwards addressed the cameras. >> there's no question that i've done wrong and i take full responsibility for having done wrong. and i will regret for the rest of my life the pain and the harm that i've caused to others. but i did not break the law and i never ever thought i was breaking the law. >> reporter: edwards was released on his own
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recognizance. there were a few conditions. he's not free to leave the country, had to surrender his passport and he was told to stay away from one of the witnesses in the case. 100-year-old rachel "bunny" mellon, who is said to have given hundreds of thousands of dollars to help edwards cover up his affair with rielle hunter. t.j., back to you. >> thanks to our joe johns. coming up at the half hour, i'll be talking to sunny hostin, legal analyst, contributor for "in session" about the edwards indictment and what the former senator is facing. marshall matt dillon, a lot know that name from "gunsmoke," has died. actor james arness, you may not know the name, but your parents know it, he played the marshall in "gunsmoke" from 1955 to 1975, worked with hundreds of ac it tors over the year, among them harrison ford, burt reynolds, to
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name a few. he died of natural causes. james arness dead at the age of 88. again, reynolds, that was kind of before our time. we weren't necessarily watching the show but we're certainly aware of some of the reruns and the name and certainly know the story. >> what a great american he was. he was a big guy, about 6'7" and he was also a veteran. he served in the ansio campaign, landed in italy. wonderful veteran, good man. pretty good horse rider too. pretty good equestrian there. what a guy. >> to another story that will have people scratching their heads, one of the insult to injury stories. everybody is concerned out there about identity theft. can you imagine someone stealing your credit card? stealing your identity. using it to buy up something and then sending you a little thank you. in the mail. this is what happened to these folks. dade and janel york. those are their names. they noticed hundreds of dollars had been racked up on their debit card. then, that arrived. you see that, folks.
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a rose with a simple "thank you" note and police, they believe it is from the actual thief, but they don't believe it's going to be possible to catch this thief. it's going to be very difficult to track this person down. i mean, it's one thing, you know how just -- i mean it's just hits you in the gut when somebody steals your identity or card and you know they're using it and feel powerless, but that's too much. >> i wonder, did the person actually send the rose and the thank you card? did they charge it to the debit card they stole? >> that's cold, isn't it? >> i wonder. >> that's a great question. >> it really is. but i mean very, very interesting. >> at least they did something, i guess. i'm trying to find a silver lining. you don't steal the card in the first place. >> silver lining. take your time if you need some time. >> hey, today's weather we got an interesting line for you, it's going to be a bright red one. mercury rising very hot for a lot of people. possibly some record-setting temperatures in the southeast and southern plains today. >> we're going to be checking in with reynolds, plenty weather
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wise throughout the morning. we'll talk to him in a second. appreciate you as always. also this morning, i was telling you a minute ago, we have an exclusive interview with winnie mandela, doesn't talk that often, hardly ever, we got to spend some time with her at her south african home, discuss her ex-husband nelson mandela and also has some words, if you will, for singer jennifer hudson. sn>> that movie, some translati of the romantic life of winnie mandela. i think it is [ inaudible ]. >> our interview with the estranged ex-wife of nelson mandela, coming up after the break. also, i'm having a difficult time continuing to say this, weiner gate now. come on. it's not over get, folks. after a long week of q and a and explanations, we still continue with this story. it's starting to get even more bizarre, would you believe that?
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also this morning, a dangerous escalation and violence in yemen, months after demonstrations threaten to spiral out of control into full-scale civil war. we're back in 60 seconds. [ woman speaking chinese ] thank you. do you have an english menu? no english. [ speaking chinese ] [ gasps, speaks chinese ] do you guys like dumplings? i love dumplings. working with a partner you can trust
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>> right, t.j. i just want to start by telling you we're getting some new developments, speaking to residents in sa sanaa in the last 20 minutes they're hearing explosions, ringing out in the capital of yemen, every three to four minutes, it seems to be getting worse. it had been a quiet morning so far. they hadn't been hearing clashes since late yesterday, now they're hearing explosions, it's making them worry how much the situation will deteriorate again today. as far as the attacks yesterda , very, very brazen, the fact anybody could get this close to the presidential palace, which is such a heavily fortified presence, so secured, and launch this kind of attack against the president and the top officials there with the president, praying with him at that time, this is a very, very worrying sign for government officials in yemen, wondering how tenuous a grip president saleh has on power. president saleh has been refusing consistently to release his grip on power the past several months. there's been more and more pressure being put on him by
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international bodies, other countries for him to step aside, to end the political turmoil and chaos in yemen. he's been saying no. the fact there's tribal war fare going on in the streets of the capital, making people wonder how vulnerable he and his government is and if he can stay in power much longer. t.j.? >> how concerning is it to u.s. officials, this conry in jgenerl and every official watching to see yemen spiral out of control? even if the president does leave, what would be left? just put in perspective what this means for the united states? >> this is a very, very worrying development for the united states. now, the united states has been worried -- towards americans and westerners in the world, the most active wing of al qaeda. they have a hub in yemen. they have been able over the past couple years to try to launch spectacular attacks,
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sophisticated attacks, against the u.s. and europe and saudi arabia. the nightmare scenario for the u.s., al qaeda kicks up again in yemen, tries to take advantage of this unrest, tries to take over parts of that country. in the past week there have been reports a city in yemen in a province where there is a hotbed of militancy, where militants affiliated with al qaeda have seized that city and officials i've spoke withinist in yemen are worried that's going to keep repeating itself because security forces in yemen are so stretched thin, focused on the major cities and having this warfare with the tribes in the major citys. a worrying scenario. the u.s. doesn't know what to do if saleh falls. they consider him to be a key ally in the fight on al qaeda and don't know what's going to happen if he falls and if that country becomes more vulnerable to a very resurgent and embolden al qaeda that has a base there. >> mohammed jamjoon in abu dhabi, thanks so much. we're a quarter past the hour now. we were talking to reynolds wolf a little earlier, seems like we
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have seen a lot of severe weather here over the past several weeks, even months. well, we don't have those kinds of concerns of tornadoes, thunder storms necessarily, but the weather is still severe because of the heat. could get close to record-setting heat and this could be some dangerous stuff for a lot of the young and a lot of the old out there. so still, we're not out of the woods just yet. quick break. right back. [ male announcer ] a moment that starts off ordinary can become romantic just like that. a spark might come from -- a touch, a glance --
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about 18 minutes past the hour on the cnn saturday morning. some of the pictures you're looking at, this is what's happening. along the missouri river. that is where the coast guard has shut down the river because of the high water levels that you can see there. it's cause something issues, causing flooding, coming from rain and still some snow melting, right? we still got snow melting right now. >> it's essentially the same issue that we had in the northern part of the mississippi river. we had that giant wall of water coming down, the flooding in the ohio river, everything coming together and feeding down into the southern half of the mississippi river. now we have this happening in the missouri river. >> put that one in perspective for us. everybody knows the mississippi and where that is. >> the second largest river in north america is the miss rourry river, the one lewis & clark made famous. people in parts of south dakota will be moving away as you can
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imagine, trying to get away from the rising floodwaters. it's a mess. other big weather mess we have today will be the incredible heat. on a day like today in atlanta, georgia, we normally anticipate climb logically speaking a high around 84 degrees. today we're expecting a high of 93. when you factor in the high humidity it's going to feel warmer. new orleans 96, 97 in dallas, 93 albuquerque, 82 minneapolis and 8 a in chicago. there will be a chance of some severe weather today, especially in the ohio valley. we've got a frontal boundary moving south of the great lakes. that combined in this area of low pressure and this frontal boundary will make for an unstable atmosphere. a chance of strong storms, small hail developing, straight line winds. we can't rule out the potential for severe storms that may include a tornado or two. right now, we don't see it in the cards, there is a chance in the afternoon that may occur. out to the west a little bit of precipitation forming in parts of california. to be more specific with that, we can hone in on radar and show you exactly where that has been
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forming from san francisco south ward to the santa barbara area. zooming in that spot. the rain has been fairly heavy at times and along 101 it could be a wet drive, same for highway 1 along the coast. be advised of that. expect the rain to stick around through a good part of the day, perhaps to the early evening hours. t.j.? >> reynolds, we appreciate you as always. we'll check in shortly. as you know there's been a lot of flooding, tornado damage in the midwest. if you would like to help the victims some of of these devastating natural disasters, go to our impact your world page for more information. that is at cnn.com/impact. well, you have probably seen at some point this week, the scandal involving new york representative anthony weiner. we're going to go beyond that scandal itself this morning and talk about the possible pitfalls, what you wan possibly learn from what happened this week. the pitfalls of tweeting and facebook, back in a moment with that. ♪
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at 24 minutes past the hour, got some breaking news to bring you now. another blow to al qaeda. it wasn't long ago, of course, that we saw the death of osama bin laden. the head of al qaeda. now we're getting word that a man by the name of ilyas kashmiri has been killed. that name might not mean a lot to you. in the intelligence community, those seeking this man, it is a big deal. consider him the military brain of al qaeda.
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this would be another major blow to al qaeda and this man was killed, it appears, at least reports say, also in pakistan. i want to join now cnn's phil black, live for us in islamabad this morning. phil, if you can help us first of all, i tried to give some context, but how relevant of a kill would this be, give our audience some context, just about who this man is. >> yes, certainly, t.j. this is a big name in intelligence circles, certainly from a u.s. national security point of view. he was on their most wanted list, among the key targets of u.s. drones flying over the tribal regions of pakistan and it is now believed that he is, perhaps, one of the victims of a u.s. drone strike in that lawless pakistani tribal region, particularly in the area of south waziristan, just overnight. nine people were killed by a drone strike we understand from pakistani intelligence
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officials. one of them, according to growing reports, including one report from the local militant organization, he is said to have ruled himself that this man, ilyas kashmiri was one of the victims. to give you some sense of the context of how rapidly this man has risen through militant ranks in recent years, he has been discussed in recent weeks as a possible successor to the al qaeda leader, former al qaeda leader osama bin laden, t.j. >> can you lep us here as well, we talk about and see often these reports of those drone strikes. we usually don't get a whole lot of information about them. but do we have any indication and forgive me if i'm putting on the spot, this is getting to breaking news to us, if he might have been the intended target or might the intelligence community just have gotten lucky with him being there? >> it's an interesting question. there is no doubt that he was one of the targets that these
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drones are regularly hunting for. whether he was the specific target in this case, is difficult to say. we understand that he normally operates in a region just north of there, north waziristan. this missile strike took place in south waziristan. there are some media reports here in pakistan that indicate that he only recently moved into that area of the missile strike, a very short period of time, before that drone actually attacked. we haven't confirmed that here. there are many reports here that indicate he only got to the area a short time before the missiles were fired. there is an important point that i should just mention, t.j. as i say, we had some reports that he was among the victims there, particularly from his own militant group. pakistani officials, including the pakistani intelligence service, has not yet confirmed this. they say they're still waiting to see his body or hear from their own sources on the ground that this is, in fact, true. it's a point worth noting because it was suspected in the past, in fact more than that, it was declared back in september
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of 2009, that united states drones had, in fact, this man a month later, that proved not to be the case. he was a highly elusive figure, a man rising through militant ranks here and considered by many to be the operational commander of al qaeda. so, a significant figure and certainly another very big get, very close to the death of osama bin laden. t.j. >> one last thing, phil. what do we know about his background in terms of how much and how involved he might have been in attacks over the years on the united states or united states interests abroad? >> well, he started his life, very much a local militant, fighting, cutting his teeth. they're learning his gorilla tactics in the conflict over kashmir with india, fighting indian forces. he later fought with the afghans against the soviet occupation there during the '80s.
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we understand this from one of the only media interviews he's ever given a press interview, back in october 2010 he realized that the only way to make progress in that kashmiri dispute, to get a pakistani victory there, was to turn the fight towards the united states and its allies in the region and so he relocated to that border area with afghanistan in north waziristan and began directing his efforts, his people, his resources in the fight against not u.s. and international forces in afghanistan. it was there that he grew very close to the afghan taliban and also to al qaeda itself. he has been linked to a great many impressive strikes, both in the south asian region, indian, pakistan. he was said to have a hansds in the mumbai attack in 2008 and more recently he has been named as having the ambition and, perhaps, attempting to plan attacks mumbai style, commando
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style attacks in europe, as well. he's been particularly named in an ongoing u.s. court matter as a guiding hand in an effort to attack newspaper offices in denmark. the reason why he was of such interest to u.s. officials here is that he was a man with proven ability, proven motivation, they essentially believed he is simply one of the most dangerous guerrilla leaders in the world today and one who had increasing ambitions to strike abroad. for that reason they considered him to be dangerous and they wanted to get him as soon as possible. we understand that he was on a list of militants given to the pakistani government not long after the death of osama bin laden as their most wanted, someone that they wanted either information on or wanted the pakistanis themselves to move on very quickly and it looks like they might possibly have a result. >> phil black, we appreciate you. bill black in islamabad, thank you so much.
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again, reports are saying that this man kashmiri, ilyas kashmiri, has been killed. for some perspective, you're seeing his face, might not be that familiar with the name or face, intelligence officials telling cnn that osama bin laden is al qaeda's spiritual leader, cleric amman al zawahiri, the philosoph philosopher, kazmirry the organization's military brain, someone thought possibly to cede osama bin laden as the head of al qaeda has been killed in a drone strike. quick break, i'm right back. there's another way to minimize litter box odor: purina tidy cats. tidy cats premium line of litters now works harder to help neutralize odors in multiple-cat homes. and our improved formula also helps eliminate dust. so it's easier than ever to keep your house smelling just the way you want it. purina tidy cats. keep your home smelling like home.
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answer a lot of questions about his role in this whole thing. he got downright defensive in some cases. take a listen to what happened when he was asked some questions by our congressional correspondent dana bash. >> you do the questions, i do the answers and this jackass interrupts me? >> that was the scene earlier this week at capitol hill, having a confrontation there, calling one of our producers, one of our capitol hill hill producers a jackass during that exchange there. then he decided he will sit down with about anybody, did a lot of interviews with a lot of people on the networks including our wolf blitzer as you see there. even then there was one question he refused to answer. >> the picture, i'm sure you've seen it by now, is this you? >> i can tell you this. we have a firm we've hired -- i've seen it. i've seen it. a firm we've hired to try to get
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to the bottom of it. it certainly doesn't look familiar to me, but i don't want to say with certitude. >> we just want to resolve it once and for all. you would know if this is your underpants, for example. >> i appreciate you considering it a flash. look, i've said the best i can, that we're going to try to get to the bottom of what happened here. >> so, he says he did not send the picture, but he could not say for sure whether or not that was him in the picture. now, move on from that. what can we all learn? this got us thinking about and we've seen cases like this over the years, just how risky using social media can be for celebrities, politicians, yes, but anybody out there. let me bring in tech expert katie linendale. good morning to you. what can we learn here from what we've seen with congressman weiner? >> yes. obviously there's a barrage of media attention on representative weiner this week. but i think more powerfully, it
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speaks to the digital transparency and power of social networking. one tweet, one post on a site like facebook or twitter, has the power to live digitally forever. as i like to say it's the rely all button to the entire world. just one little impulse. i kind of wanted to share with you a few xarm examples good and bad at the power of transparency of twitter over the last year. >> all right. >> first i want to start with kenneth cole. and during the uprising of egypt, kenneth cole sent out a tweet that said millions of uproar in cairo. rumor is they've heard our spring collection is now available on-line. this is an example of a bad tweet that can impact a brand. obviously uproar over the web after this tweet was sent, apology made by kenneth cole on facebook, overshadowed by the insensitive nature of a tweet. to another example which is that of 77-year-old senator of iowa, chuck grassley. a place that you don't want to
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be is on gismoto, a powerful tech website. chuck grassley, he's older, trying to stay tech savvy and on the cutting edge but was deemed by gismoto as the worst twitter user in the united states of america. the reason for this, t.j., is he likes to use this kind of form of shorthand. it's very creative, but rather ineffective. things he tries to get out in 140 characters are fairly illogical and don't make a lot of sense. this speaks to the power of you better understand the technology before hopping on board. really putting yourself out there. but i've given you two negative examples. i want to end with a positive one. >> okay. >> just last week an independent jewelry designer accused retail national chain urban outfitters of ripping off her jewelry designs. and even though she didn't have a lot of followers, apparently these accusations have happened frequently with urban outfitters. instantly it started trending on twitter and a lot of people came to her side and urban outfitters
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was forced to respond and they also pulled down the jewelry line. so it just goes to show you the impact of one individual being able to stir the pot, using social media. >> katie, you showed a positive example at the end but the other two, i guess the bad examples, if you will, how much of this oftentimes is people making bad decisions? like you said you're hitting the reply all or sending out an e-mail when you're upset and shouldn't hit that send button. is a lot it bad decision making and how much is it people don't understand the technology where you think you might have been sending that picture to one person and you send it to a lot of people or things like that? >> yeah. you know it's funny. for a celebrity or athlete to put up a bad tweet sometimes it has a weird impact. no pr is bad pr and they will gain tens of thousands of fol w followers from it, which isn't fair. for an average individual that isn't high profile, if they put something out there, i don't want to go to work or hate my job, the impact can trickle down only to their boss and see
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repercussions of a much larger magnitude. we're talking about twitter but i want to talk about facebook because it's another power player when it really comes to this transparency of social networking. in the past two weeks alone, we talked about mistakes that adults have made, two 13-year-old kids have seen the magnitude of their social media outbursts. one 13-year-old girl in new hampshire was suspended for five days for posting on facebook that she wished osama would kill her math teacher. her parents, obviously, not very happy. but then another 13-year-old boy in washington state posted on facebook too that he -- obama should be careful, after the osama raid of suicide bombers. he was integrated by the secret service. >> wow. >> i think we all have to have this digital filter when we're putting stuff out there. as i always say, if you wouldn't put this on a billboard in times square, you really have to rethink something. it lives out there on the web forever. >> and nothing is private,
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folks, no matter what you think, once you put it out there, it's gone, you can't get it back. good info this morning. katie, good to see you. it's been a while. good to see you again. >> you too. thank you. >> all right. we're going to turn back to politics here. once a deciding factor in presidential elections and republicans are hoping to re-energize social conservatives now. evangelical activists are meeting in washington. just ability every republican with an eye on the white house is stopping by. paul stein house has stopped by at the faith and freedom coalition conference. paul, if people are not familiar with that name, explain to them why this conference is able to pull just about every person who is running for president or who might run for president? >> you got it, t.j. this is a brand new organization, only about two years ago, founded by ralph reid, the wonder kid in the 1990s that made the christian coalition a powerhouse. if you need a sign of how
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important this conference is, seven, count them, seven republican presidential candidates are here speaking to this crowd. listen, we know social conservatives always played a large role, an influential role in picking republican nominees, they vote in big numbers in the republican primaries and caucuses. need more proof? our most recent poll, look at that half of the republicans we questioned say they identify themselves as born again or evangelical christians. a lot of importance here, why you're seeing all the candidates here. >> when we see them or hear from them, what are we hearing? a lot of bashing of the president, it sounds like? >> oh, yes. no doubt about it. the president barack obama getting attacked here by a lot of the speakerings, not just the presidential candidates. area hearing a lot, of course, about family values, social issues, abortion, gay marriage, but a lot about the economy, about taxes, about the deficit, about health care, because that's the theme here, both go hand in hand. can't have family values and fix the economy without each other. they go hand in hand. take a listen to what some of
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the presidential candidates are saying. >> it would be impossible if you don't have high regards and respect for life and then respect for liberty because without liberty, we do not have what has made this country so great. the way forward may not be easy, but it's not complex. we know the values and principles that this country was founded on. >> and i am committed, i am committed, i will not rest until we repeal obama care. america will not rest until we repeal obama care. take it to the bank, cash the check, it will be done. it will not stand. the american people will not stand. >> that was michelle bachmann, the congresswoman from minnesota we expect her to probably announce her candidacy a little later this month. >> it's quiet now, but they're
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getting started for today's events at the top of the hour. we'll check back in with paul steinhouser throughout the morning. good to see you as always, thanks. well, opera and a new movie about her, winnie mandela is not flattered by it at all. she invited us into her home in south africa and she's got some choice words for jennifer hudson. why? you'll hear in a second. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] thanks to advanced natural gas turbine technology from ge, the power that will help make our nation more energy independent is right here in america. [ crickets chirping ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] advanced gas turbine technology from ge. ♪
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what's your story? citi can help you write it. it's about a quarter off of the top of the hour, joined by nadya as we go on our morning passport, seeing pictures of winnie mandela. you got to sit down with her in south africa, a rare interview. why is she upset with jennifer hudson some. >> she's terribly upset with jennifer hudson because jennifer hudson has starred in the movie "winnie the untold love story of winnie and nelson" but jennifer never met with her. i did speak to jennifer's publicist and said jennifer hudson would have loved to have plett with her but the producers thought for artistic integrity she shouldn't have met with her. >> what does that mean? >> let's hear what winnie had to say. >> this is still the movie we're watching.
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>> do we have it? we can move on if we don't have that sound. we don't have that sound. that's too bad. what did she say? i'm told we do have it. let me hear it now. >> jennifer hudson will be playing winnie mandela in a movie or has already filmed. any advice you want to give her? >> no, i wouldn't like to give her any advance. absolutely nothing against jennifer. but i have everything against the movie itself. >> going to tell this beautiful love story, but winnie feels she should have been consulted. >> now, the reasoning is that -- >> i spoke to the producer yesterday as well, he said we want to keep the integrity on the book of which the story is based and, therefore -- jennifer's publicist was insistent, she said to me, please don't let jennifer take the wrap for this. she would have loved to have met winnie mandela. >> that's interesting.
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most times or oftentimes you hear when people want to play someone, they want to meet them, get a feel for them sometimes and going to portray them in films. >> jennifer hudson said it was hard. a south african accent is not easy. there's also winnie the opera, you have to hear. winnie has to say about her being the major heroin in an opera. >> let's hear this. >> your life story has recently been made into an opera. i know you were there on opening night. what did you think about it? >> i made those remarks about the opera, and i honestly found it difficult to imagine how you would translate a struggle into an opera. i think they did an amazing job. of course, not everyone would be happy about how that life was depicted, but i don't think it
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is possible to show 18 months of solitary confinement in an opera situation and i don't think it is possible to translate to and depict to those nine and a half years of punishment and it is not possible to translate the actual torture each and every mother went through and it was one of those where -- who got to the bitter end of the ar par tied. >> many sides to winnie mandela. her granddaughters are going to write a book about her story. >> we're going to have more on this throughout this morning and also tomorrow morning. but the point i'm going to get with you in about an hour, in the 10:00 eastern hour, the question you got most when you told people you were interviewing her on twitter and
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facebook, people had this particular question. >> it will surprise you. >> it was an interesting one. we appreciate you. thank you so much. we're talking john edwards this morning. a grand jury indicted him yesterday. prosecutors allege he used campaign donations to cover up an affair. we will be talking to our legal analyst and friend, sunny hostin.
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former presidential candidate john edwards pleading not guilty on six counts including conspiracy and violation of campaign finance laws. the grand jury indicted him yesterday. prosecutors contend he used donations to cover up an affair and pay his mistress. yesterday john edwards spoke to reporters about the indictment. >> there's no question that i've done wrong and i take full responsibility for having done wrong. and i will regret for the rest of my life the pain and the harm that i've caused to others. but i did not break the law and
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i never ever thought i was breaking the law. >> our legal analyst and friend of our show on cnn saturday and sunday morning, sunny hostin joins me now from "in session" on our sister network treu tv joining me from new york. good morning to you. tell me, let's start simply if he's happened to be found guilty on one or all of these counts, is he looking at time in prison? >> he is looking at time in prison, t.j. he's looking at at least five years on each count, plus a $250,000 fine. that's the maximum penalty of course under the federal sentencing guidelines, it would likely be less than that because he would be a first-time offender, first-time person being convicted. there's no question about it, that each charge, and there are six of them, carry five years maximum penalty. we're talking about if he's convicted of all of them, [ inaudible ] maximum penalty.
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>> tell me how difficult of a case? i read through this entire indictment, a lot reads like something you read in "the enquirer enquirer" hakes him out to be a bad dude and what he did to his wife and family and trying to cover this up, it seemed like an aside as some of the counts and criminal element of it. so what are they trying to do here? do they really want to influence a jury later by saying this is bad guy? >> well, certainly it is a sordid indictment, i agree with you on that when you look at it those are the facts that the prosecution alleges them. they are alleging that bunny mellon and -- gave him over $700,000 to hide this affair from the world so that his campaign in 2008 could continue. of course, the defense is arguing that's not true. this was a personal gift and these were personal gifts and only given to rielle hunter so
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that they could hide the affair from elizabeth edwards because she was dying from cancer. they're saying these were not campaign contributions. of course i will say, this is sort of unprecedented, federal campaign laws. it's never been done before. the government is sort of hinging its argument on a 2000 advisory opinion given to the fdc issues, and it's not the easiest case to prove, but in front of a jury, given the types of allegations and given this sordid past, especially that he had this affair, had the child, his wife was dying of cancer, factually t.j., a really good case for the prosecution. >> anybody else to wrap up, anybody else possibly could face charges to this? >> well, no one else has been charged, of course. i think some people talked about andrew young possibly being complicit in this because there
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is a conspiracy charge. i think he's going to be one of the star witnesses. he's not named in the indictment but he is likely person a when people read the indictment. i don't think the government is considering charges against anybody else. it's all about john edwards right now. >> sunny hostin friend of our show on the weekend, good to see you as always. enjoy the rest of your saturday. >> thanks, t.j. >> getting close to the top of the hour. breaking news we told you about just a bit ago, out of pakistan. that an al qaeda leader, someone who many thought possibly could come as the head of that organization after osama bin laden's death, well now we're told this al qaeda leader has been killed. that story for you as we re-set at the top of the hour. [ man ] i got this new citi thankyou card and started earning loads of points. you got a weather balloon with points? yes i did.
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we are just crossing the top of the hour here on this cnn saturday morning. welcome back to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. breaking story we are following out of pakistan this morning. america's war on terror. you remember it wasn't long ago we were talking about s.e.a.l. team six taking out al qaeda leader osama bin laden. many wondering who was going to step up and be the leader of al qaeda. one of the names that came up was ilyas kashmiri. word he has been killed in a drone strike in pakistan. you might not know his name, you might not know his face but intelligence officials sure do. considered by many security experts one of the most dangerous men in the world and called al qaeda's military brain. our phil black is on the ground in pakistan. >> this is a big name in intelligence circles, certainly from a u.s. national security point of view.
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he was very much on their most wanted list. among the key targets of u.s. drones flying over the tribal regions of pakistan and it is now believed that he is, perhaps, one of the victims of a u.s. drone strike in that lawless pakistani tribal region, particularly in the area of south waziristan, just overnight. nine people were killed by a drone strike. we understand from pakistani intelligence officials, one of them, according to growing reports, including one report from the local militant organization, he is said to have ruled himself that this man, ilyas kashmiri, was one of the victims. to give you some sense of the context of just how rapidly this man has risen through militant ranks in recent years, he has been discussed in recent weeks as a possible successor to the al qaeda leader, former al qaeda leader, osama bin laden. t.j.? >> can you help us here as well. we talk about and we see often, these reports of these drone
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strikes. we usually don't get a whole lot of information about them. but do we have any indication and forgive me if i'm putting you on the spot, this is getting to breaking news to us, if he might have been the intended target or might the intelligence community just have gotten lucky with him being there? >> it's an interesting question. there is no doubt that he was one of the targets that these drones are regularly hunting for. whether he was the specific target in this case, is difficult to say. we understand that he normally operates in a region just north of there, north waziristan. this missile strike took place in south waziristan. there are some media reports here in pakistan that indicate he only recently moved into that area of the missile strike, a very short period of time, before that drone actually attacked. we haven't confirmed that here, but there are many reports here that indicate he only got to the area a short time before the missiles were fired. there is an important point that
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i should just mention, t.j. as i say, we had some reports that he was among the victims there, particularly from his own militant group. pakistani officials, including the pakistani intelligence service, has not yet confirmed this. they say they're still waiting to see his body or hear from their own sources on the ground, that this is, in fact, true. it's worth noting because it was suspected in the past, more than that, it was declared in september of 2009, that united states drones had, in fact, got this man before. a month later that proved not to be the case. he is a highly elusive figure, as i say, a man who has been rising through militant ranks here in recent years, and is now considered by many to be the operational commander of al qaeda. so a significant figure and certainly another very big get, very close to the death of osama bin laden. t.j.? >> one last thing, phil. what do we know about his background in terms of how much and how involved he might have been in attacks over the years
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on the united states or united states interests abroad? >> well, he started his life, very much a local militant, fighting, cutting his teeth, learning his guerrilla tactic in the conflict over kashmir with india, fighting indian forces. he then later also fought with the afghans against the soviet occupation there during the '80s. then we understand and we understand this from one of the only media interviews he's ever given, a press interview, back in october of 2010, he had to realize the only way to make progress in that kashmiri dispute, to get a pakistani victory there, was to turn the fight towards the united states and its allies in the region. and so, he relocated to their border area with afghanistan in north waziristan and began directing his efforts, his people, his resources, in the fight against not u.s. and international forces in afghanistan. it was there that he grew very
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close to the afghan taliban and also to al qaeda itself. he has been linked to a group many impressive strikes, both in the south asian region, india, pakistan. he was said to have a hand in the mumbai attack of 2008, and more recently, he has been named as having the ambition and, perhaps, attempting to plan attacks, mumbai-style, commando-style attacks in europe as well. he's been particularly named in an ongoing u.s. court matter as a guiding hand in an effort to attack newspaper offices in denmark. the reason why he was of such interest to u.s. officials here, is that he was a man with proven ability, proven motivation. they essentially believed that he is simply one of the most dangerous guerrilla leaders in the world today and one who had increasing ambitions to strike abroad. for that reason, they considered him to be very dangerous and they wanted to get him as soon
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as possible. we understand that he was on a list of militants given to the pakistani government not long after the death of osama bin laden as their most wanted, someone that they wanted either information on or they wanted the pakistanis themselves to move on very quickly and it looks like they might possibly have a result. >> all right. thanks to our phil black this morning. now this story, just a tragic one. we are getting out of costa rica. it was a trip that should have been a highlight for a kansas high school student. it ended in tragedy. you're seeing 16-year-old justin johnston, shot and killed on his school trip to costa rica after a hotel security guard mistakenly thought he was an intruder. cnn's martin seveavidge with th story. >> reporter: the news of the 16-year-old's tragic death has left the small town of mclouth, kansas, shaken and in tears. >> it's heartbreaking. you don't know what to think
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right now. one of my good friends. very good kid. always did good, loved sports, just all around a good kid. >> reporter: at the town's school where all grades k through 12 fit under a single roof, officials were in shock. >> our thoughts and our prayers are with the johnston family, as well as the many students and staff and families that are affected by this tragedy. >> reporter: people gathered at a church across the street from the school for a prayer service. >> he was just a class clown, you know. he loved making everybody laugh. he's one of the guys that all the guys wanted to be and all the girls wanted to be, you know -- wanted to date him. >> reporter: days before students talked excitedly to a local tv station about the trip. among those interviewed, a charismatic justin johnston. >> my name is justin. i like cute girls. my telephone number is 913-704 -- >> reporter: a trip to be the highlight of the summer ended tragically only days after it began.
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>> the costa rican attorney general says a 34-year-old security guard who shot johnston was not licensed to carry a weapon. the man who is from nick ka war gra has been charged with simple murder what you would call manslaughter here in the u.s. we will turn now to some presidential politics. and republican contenders hoping to spark interest in their campaigns appealing today to a key group of social conservatives. the faith and freedom coalition wraps up their conference today with three republican presidential hopefuls addressing the group, rick santorum, hermann kaine and newt gingrich. among those yesterday, michelle bachmann, who is inching closer to announcing her decision and candidacy. she went after the president and his health care legislation yesterday. >> i will not rest until we repeal obama care. america will not rest until we
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repeal obama care. take it to the bank, cash the check, it will be done, it will not stand. the american people will not stand. >> meanwhile the president is talking about jobs, the economy, and hope this morning. in his weekly address the president made the video message yesterday while visiting a chrysler assembly line in toledo, ohio. >> we've got a ways to go. even though our economy has created more than 2 million private sector jobs over the past 15 months and continues to grow, we're facing some tough head winds. lately it's high gas prices, the earthquake in japan, and unease about the european fiscal situation. it's going to happen from time to time. there are going to be bumps on the road to recovery. we're a people who don't give up. who do big things, who shape our own destiny, and i'm absolutely confident that if we hold on that spirit, our best days are still ahead of us.
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>> now despite a slow down in job creation for the month of may, over 9% now, ticked up to 9.1% for the month of may, the president's approval rating has inched up. the latest cnn opinion research poll has that at 54%, 45% of those asked disapprove of the way the president is handling his job. we are talking some extreme weather again this week. it's not the stuff we have been seeing over the past several weeks and months. the extreme weather this weekend we are talking about is heat. reynolds wolf when we come back. it's dif - t adththod easy-to-swallow petes. yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can now come from any faucet anywhere. introducing the brita bottle with the filter inside.
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welcome back to cnn "saturday morning" an the top story in terms of weather is going to be the amazing heat. just remarkable heat that we're seeing across parts of the nation. high temperatures in kansas city 93 degrees, 97 expected for st. louis, dallas, also very warm, three degrees shy from 100. 97 in houston, new orleans, and 90s in atlanta, 93, higher than we normally expect this time of year. look ahead for your forecast not just today but also into sunday and monday, we expect this heat to last for quite some time. that big ridge of high pressure keeping things warm for us sunday at oklahoma city with a high of 98 degrees, 101 in dallas, atlanta with 96, and fast forward into monday as we do so, 85 cincinnati, 100 jackson, and atlanta with 94, and 97 in new orleans. not expecting a whole lot of warm conditions up in the parts are of the great lakes region. reason why because this area of low pressure, severe storms possible and with that, we may
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have some heavy rain, flash flooding, maybe even an isolated tornado. t.j., back to you. >> don't like to hear that. we appreciate you as always. parents getting a house call from our education expert to help them keep one of their sons from failing the ninth grade. >> i want you to meet three teenage brothers. they're involved in a lot of activities, but one of them is struggling. >> i'm looking at three fs, a c-minus. is he in danger of failing ninth grade? >> it's up in the air. >> three fs and a cry-minus, that's not going to get it done. a preview of an important cnn special "education make-over" steve perry here with me next. at bayer, we've been relieving pain for over 100 years.
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all right. 20 minutes past the hour on this "cnn saturday morning." your child is struggling to keep from flunking out of high school. compound that from complications from dealing with a divorce. what do you do here? education contributor steve perry met with a family that is going through that nightmare. here now a preview of his weekend special "education make-over." >> what goes on in a child's home is critical. >> steve perry. >> jacob. >> yes. >> do you have homework? >> i'll ask you again, how do you know she didn't give you a test today? >> i don't. >> you didn't do any homework from the time who got out of cool. guess who doesn't get any down time. >> how can a vegan flunk health? >> three brothers involved in a lot of activities, but one is struggling. >> i'm looking at three fs, a c-minus. is he in danger of failing ninth grade? >> it's up in the air. >> had you been able to be there in the beginning more often --
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when you keep saying that it's like you're punishing me today about that. >> what can we do to cut down on the communication breakdowns? challenge is power. that seems to be the issue. >> he wiwe'll have more of stev interaction with this afternoon's "education make-over" at 2:30 eastern time. to our viewers i want to let you know, steve perry was scheduled to be a guest with us. there's a technical issue, we were working and still working to get it worked out. we might. don't know if we'll be able to get him by the end of the bottom of the hour. we did plan on having a good conversation with him this morning, always enjoy that. the technical issue is keeping us from doing it right now. sorry about that. a couple in seattle they ended up being victims of on-line fraud but they say it was what arrived at their home after their account was hacked that added insult to injury. lindsay cohen of komo in seattle has this one.
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>> reporter: when the box arrived on the doorstep of the maple valley home. >> i haven't been sleeping well the last couple nights because it is very violating. >> reporter: little did the york family know what was inside would slice their sense of safety in two. >> i mean you hear about it, it seems kind of like a common thing these days you never think it's going to happen to you. >> reporter: detectives believe it probably happened when dave york bought something with his debit card on-line. the couple then went shopping this week and their card was declined. the bank spotted charges overseas and flagged the account. for fraud. >> i was starting to get a little bit concerned, like how far is this going to go? >> reporter: just when they thought it couldn't go any further it did. charges to a jewelry website, to netflix, even on-line florist ftd.com. and on thursday, the black box arrived at their house addressed to dave. inside, a single pink rose and a
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note reading "thank you." detectives believe the person who sent the rose is no bachelor, but the actual thief. >> here's the suspect who uses the victim's credit card or debit card, to send them flowers. it's like sticking the finger in the eye, adding insult to injury, any cliche you can think about. >> reporter: it was enough to send the deputy to the house to investigate where now the flower sits in a vase, the "thank you" note nearby, the sign of a thief a bit polite, a bit brazen with this rose, a thorn in the sides of the victims. >> my husband says, at least they were a polite thief. got to find some humor somewhere. that was the most upsetting part. >> deputies say the thief used an e-mail address to open a netflix streaming account but they say it is highly unlikely that the thief will ever be caught. we're getting close to the bottom of the hour. breaking story we are getting out of pakistan, a face and a name you may not know, but he is
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qaeda. the group says kashmiri was killed in a drone attack on friday. right now pakistani officials have not confirmed the death. u.s. officials not confirming it yet either. yemen's embattled leader says gangsters were behind an attack on a presidential palace. president saleh was slightly injured when two missiles were fired at the mosque there yesterday. at least four people were killed. also the capital murder trial of casey anthony resuming today. you're seeing live pictures here. yesterday jurors watched taped jailhouse conversations between the defendant and her parents. tapes that may damage anthony's defense that her 2-year-old daughter caylee drowned in the family's pool almost three years ago. we are monitoring this, but again they are having court today on a saturday, so a live picture right now at attorneys as you see presenting evidence and again a camera fixed on anthony herself. i'll be back at the top of the hour with more live news. right now "your bottom line."

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