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>> reporter: so the epa asks your help keeping the beaches waterways clean. make sure your pet waste ends up in a proper receptable, keep your septic tank in good working condition, things you do year round to be beach ready in summer. >> if your choice didn't win or you want to check out runners-up, i'll have links on my page at facebook.com/suzannecnn. randi kaye is in for ali velshi. well, out of cold storage, into the daylight, more than 24,000 pages of sarah palin's e-mails from her abbreviated stint as governor of alaska. cnn and other news organizations asked for those records way back when john mccain picked a running mate no one in the lower 48 had ever heard of. it took this long for the state to sort out what it had to produce and what it could legally hold back.
and right this minute in juneau, cnn's drew griffin is picking up six boxes of paperwork and getting ready for some speed reading. palin told fox news she's not worried, even though she thinks political opponents will try to exploit the information. >> a lot of those e-mails obviously weren't meant for public consumption. they're between staff members. they're probably between family members. i'm sure people are going to capitalize on this opportunity to go through 25,000 e-mails and perhaps take things out of context. they'll never truly know what the context of theech oeach one e-mails was. >> drew griffin will join us live with his first arm load of palin's writings at the top of our next hour. a new development in the federal case against former senator john edwards. the man prosecuting him, george e.b. holding quit today. his resignation was expected. holding was appointed back during the bush administration and he was widely expected to step down after getting edwards
indicted. edwards was indicted last week on charges of conspiracy, lying and violating campaign laws. president obama has named charlotte resident thomas walker to replace him pending confirmation hearings. in orlando, florida, casey anthony is back in court one day after apparently falling ill in the courtroom. she's accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter in 2008. nancy grace has been following the case for our sister network hln and joins us live from florida to break down what has been going on there today. first, nancy, what do you think about casey anthony's alleged illness? do you believe she was ill? did anyone see her tears there? >> well, randi, number one, thank you for having me. i'm here outside the orlando orange county courthouse and i'm not so sure that she was sick as much as sick of the testimony. because one thing i noticed, randi -- i've been watching her very carefully. when her mother cindy anthony,
grandmother to little caylee took the stand, she was so broken up, she put her head down, couldn't even raise her head. she went through a box of kleenex. tot mom has been through one! randi, one kleenex! but she's been crying for two days. she's used one kleenex. all right, that of course is anecdotal proof. but the reason -- there were a lot of people upset in court today. and that's because we were hearing testimony about caylee's limbs, her femura, her legs, being chewed on by animals, her trunk, torso, being dragged off and chewed on. >> how did the jury react to that? >> randi, they, like most of the courtroom, were sitting there like they were stunned. and many of their mouths were actually agape, slightly open, as they look up at screens. there are screens to look up at the photos.
and at one point they had pieced together in the morgue, as best they could, most of caylee's bones. there are about 206 bones in the human body. all of them were never recovered. but when they saw them all assembled, that's juxtaposed against a living caylee, photos with those big brown eyes, smiling and mugging for the camera, it was almost too much for a lot of people to take. >> yesterday they made a big point about the duct tape found on part of the remains, nancy, it was found really in the skull area that would have been likely around her mouth or around her chin area. how significant is that? why is that so critical to point that out that the duct tape was there on those remains? >> you're right, randi. because the state has said in their opening statement that the duct tape was the murder weapon. in other words, not only was the child chloroformed, knocked out with homemade hooch knockout drug, but that she had duct tape
across the mouth and nasal aperture, the nose, and therefore couldn't breathe. that was the murder weapon. but today we heard one state's witness say that he did not think that the duct tape was on in that manner. in fact, he believes that hair and weeds and vines had held the lower jaw of the manageab abman the head. randi, actually there's a lot of discussion amongst the defense that the utility meter reader found the body, took the body a, a, then brought it back to collect the reward. that's crazy talk, because we learned that after tropical storm faye came in, the body rose with the water, the bones resettled, in disarray, and s d sediment settled down over there. there's no way a civilian could come in and stage the scene to look that way. >> we've listened to a couple weeks or so of testimony. who would you say is doing better at this point?
who's scoring more points? the defense or the prosecution? >> well, i've got to tell you, right now the state is, because this is the state's show right now. they should be doing better. now who's to say in two weeks when the defense starts, that they're not going to shine. we'll see. >> well, what do you think defense attorney jose baez is going to have to pull out of his bag of tricks to try to get his client off? >> well, one thing i can tell you, randi, he's got to pull out more than he pulled out at a sidebar. in the middle of all this, he goes up to a sidebar with the judge, who this judge is no idiot. this judge has been around the block a couple of times. and says that he, the defense attorney, objects to photos of tot mom partying at a bar because she's dancing, dirty dancing with another woman. the judge says, mr. baez, have you been to the bars lately? in other words, that happens all the time. he said he was worried it made his client look like a lesbian. hello, baez. you got bigger problems than your client dancing with another
woman at a bar. >> nancy grace, always a pleasure to have you on. always a very interesting look at the trial there. nancy, thank you. >> thanks, randi. our sister network hln is your destination for complete coverage of the casey anthony trial. you can watch special coverage of the trial throughout the day on hln. well, our "sound effect" today is tough love from defense secretary robert gates. on his way home from a farewell visit to afghanistan, gates stopped by nato headquarters and told the allies what he really thinks of them. not all of them, but most of them. and they knew who they were already. gates and his predecessors have struggled to get our partners to pony up for missions but never, ever has a defense secretary stood up in public and warned the north american alliance it faced a dim, if not dismal future. listen to this from a speech to a think natank in brussels.
>> the grim reality is there is dwindling appetite in the united states congress and in the american body politics at large to expend increasingly precious funds on behalf of nations that are apparently unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be serious and capable partners in their own defense. nations apparently willing and eager for american taxpayers to assume the growing security burden left by reductions in european defense budgets. >> nato, as you know, was formed to counter the soviet union and its allies and it is not only survived the end of the cold war, it's grown from 16 nations to 28. as for gates, he can speak his mind because he's retiring at the end of the month. comedian tracy morgan says he's sorry for a recent rant at a nashville performance. just ahead, what he said and why so many people are so angry. and after we hear what tracy morgan said, well, we want you
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envelope for laughs was performing in front of a packed house at nashville's ryman auditori auditorium. in the middle of the show he launched into a scathing tirade about homosexuals. a photographer, kevin rogers, was in the audience and posted on facebook some of the things that morgan reportedly said. kevin, we'll get to you in just a moment. first i want to revisit some of the statements that you said morgan made during his stand-up. you to be clea-- to be clear, have a full transcript of the remarks but kevin posted at one point morgan said, "there is no way a woman could love and have sexual desire for another woman. that's just a woman pretending because she hates an f'ing man." he went on to say if his son is gay, or he would pull out a knife and stab that little "n-word" to death. he went on to say he didn't care if he "f'ing" pissed off some
gays. g.l.a.d. is calling for morgan's management to issue a statement. >> should it prove true, we call him on to remove these violently strong remarks from the show." the human rights campaign also issued a statement -- if these allegations are true, tracy morgan must immediately accept responsibility and apologize. his employer nbc universal also must come forward and condemn these atrocious comments." now i want to go back to kevin rogers. kevin, were you in the audience there. you heard tracy morgan directly. what was your gut reaction? >> i was absolutely shocked. and amazed at what i was hearing. i knew that i was going to see a comedian that does push the envelope and was expected to hear all sorts of different
probably inappropriate humor, but i didn't expect to hear an attack on the gay community. >> as i mentioned, tracy morgan has apologized, so i want to read you his statement. he says i want to apologize to my fans and the gay and lesbian community for my choice of words at my recent stand-up act in nashville. i'm not a hateful person and don't condone any type of violence against other. while i am an equal opportunity jokester, my friends know what's in my heart even in a comedy club this clearly went too far and was not funny. is that apology enough? >> i greatly appreciate his apology. i only hope that it is actually genuine and that's how he feels. and if that's the case and he shows my community and his fans that he truly is sorry for those remarks and takes content like that from his show, then, yeah, i greatly accept his apology. >> as you said, you certainly
didn't expect morgan's act to be clean, but when he said what he said, about stab is his son if he came home and told him that he was gay, how did that specific remark sit with you? >> it had gotten to the point within the rant that i was actually a little numb to everything that was being said. i was still trying to process everything and decide if there was going to be a punch line somewhere or exactly what was i hearing? so to me, it really was just the entire thing really did hurt me. you know, of course, the violent aspect of that comment, i even actually thought at a point, well maybe he is at least joking about that -- not that that's something to joke about, but that's pretty serious. >> what was the audience response? were you able to notice, were people laughing? were they booing? what was the response?
>> as ashamed as i am for the nashville audience, there was actually a lot of applause during that. and seemed to -- there were some people that weren't laughing or clapping and seemed to be sitting there in shock, but there were also a lot of people that just really, for lack of better way of putting it, kind of hooted and hollered. >> did anyone leave? >> throughout his entire performance there were times that we had noticed that people were leaving. you know, his performance includes a lot of comments about women and his belief on their place in the world. >> what was his demeanor as he started this part of his act? did his demeanor change or was it the way it was throughout the whole show? >> i could tell that it seemed to go from a joking demeanor to this is a point in my show to where i'm very serious about what i'm saying. it was very forthright.
there wasn't -- didn't seem to be any joking involved at that point. it was just here's my platform. >> you posted your feelings, as i said, on facebook. you also tweeted about it, writing saw tracy morgan in nashville last night. nothing but hate for the gays. that was what your tweet said. then you also added, i was very saddened by this. what kind of response have you received online? >> it's been kind of crazy. i've received all sorts of support from people across the united states. i've actually also received a little bit of hate, but far, far outweighed by the number of people who are supporting me and wanting to be my friend on facebook and just patting me on the back and saying thanks and that they really appreciated it. so it's been overall positive but i never expected on friday that i was going to be on cnn today. >> i'm sure.
and i know that before you came on cnn, you actually, according to my producer, had to actually come out to your mom. >> yeah. it's something that we've never really discussed and i've always had a feeling that my family knew, but i just wasn't comfortable having that discussion and then i knew that how things happened and nashville is a large city but it is also a very small community in a way and i knew that at some point tonight i would be receiving a phone call from my mother saying, somebody called me and saw you on cnn, what's the deal. so i thought, you know, this is a time that i'm really going to have to just step up and make that phone call and say, here's look, this is what's going to happen and whatever you hear, here's the truth. she was very supportive and was great and i love her and my dad very much for the way they've
raised me. >> well kevin, thank you so much for sharing not only your personal story with us but also what you say happened there in nashville and bringing that to our attention as well. we certainly appreciate you coming on the show and talking about it. thank you. >> thank you so very much. remember, we want to know what you think about tracy morgan's remarks. join the conversation on our blog, cnn.com/ali. you can also post on either ali's or my facebook and twitter pages.
welcome back. in today's "your money," alley velshi talks with deborah davis with the environmental health trust about the long debated issue about radiation from cell phones and how harmful it may be. >> studies conducted in europe in 12 different laboratories have shown that the weaker signal from today's modern phones can actually be more damaging than the signals from the earlier phones because the post digital signal disrupts the membran membranes, weakens the blood brain barrier and can damage dna. >> a lot of people don't realize that the cell phone industry is issuing warnings about this but they're in very fine print. take a look at this one from research in motion which makes blackberries. use hands-free operation if available and keep the phone at least .98 inches from your body
including the abdomen in pregnant women or in teens when the device is turned on and connected to the wireless network. so the industry is obviously aware of the effects. why is the u.s. government, for instance, not getting more involved in putting these warnings out there and regulating it? >> the government right now, as you well know, is overwhelmed with so many things to deal with and they've taken advice that's been vprovided over the years b committees dominated by industry. but i think those days are over. i'm really glad for the attention you're bringing to this issue and that cnn has done a very good job on. we don't need to stop using phones, just be smarter about how we do things. >> next up, the cnn listening tour. don lemon takes the pulse in new hampshire, the site of cnn's first presidential debate of the season. we'll be right back. ♪
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cnn "in-depth" is on a listening tour. all week our crews have been on the road listening to what americans are saying about the economy and politics. today, our don lemon is taking the public pulse in new england. >> reporter: all right, let's see how people start their day in manchester, new hampshire.
union lead. all right, led's go to the red a arrow diner. voted one of the top ten diners in the country. >> clean house. >> out of all the candidates in the republican field who are declared so far, who do you like? >> i would have to take santorum. >> what are you talking about? >> probably graduation. >> not politics? >> not really. >> no debate? >> not interested in that stuff. i can't even vote yet. >> what are you talking about over breakfast here in manchester? >> business. >> finding business. opportunities. you know? >> the economy's very stagnant right now. how do you grow in a very downward economy? you know? how do you stay stable? how do you keep people employed? how do you keep the lights on in that's really the issues at hand. >> what do you want to hear from the folks in the debate? >> about jobs and stop spending. >> i want to see what they're going to do, i mean for us younger people.
i mean we're going to be supporting the rest of the people after everyone else retires an everything. >> reporter: a.m. 610, wgir, manchester. >> nobody else is talking in this town except for us. >> people on the outside looking in, what do you want people to know about new hampshire? >> we like the voters to speak to us. if you're a politician and running for president and make a big national speech? it doesn't play well in new hampshire. we like it when the candidate will go to the pancake breakfast that maybe only 15 people will show up for. we like to see what you're made of, if you can handle stuff like that. >> don lemon joins us now from manchester, new hampshire, the site of cnn's first presidential debate. don, if i understand it correctly, you ran into rick santorum at the manchester airport yesterday. >> reporter: i did! you know, it's kind of interesting that you were talking -- i saw the segment a couple minutes ago about tracy morgan and i asked him a question that was sort of
similar. some people have been saying he's homophobic because he wants to change the constitution in support of what he calls traditional marriage. i asked him, i said, mr. santorum, some people find it contradictory because you are for small government or at least smaller, limbed government but yet you want to use the government to change the constitution. he responded to my question by saying -- talking about having gay friends. take a listen, then we can talk about it. >> do you have any gay friends? >> yeah. in fact i've had gay people work for me. >> yeah. and friends. >> yes! >> you know people say i have black friends. >> yes. in fact i was with a gay friend of mine two days ago. so yeah, i do. they respect that i have differences of opinion on that. i talk about these things in front of them and we have conversations about it. they differ from me. but they know that i'm love them because they're my friends. >> he went on to say, at least he talks about it with his friends. they respect his opinion. but he doesn't feel that they should have the same rights, he
said. he said he wants to preserve -- what he said special rights for traditional marriage. those were his words. we're going to have that entire conversation. it was about a five-minute very interesting conversation tomorrow when we're live from here starting at 5:00. i can bring in a superstar? john king is here in the house, randi. got here a little while ago. >> are you taking the show to new hampshire or what, don? oh, look! there he is right there. john and i have been playing frisbee. >> this guy's working really hard. >> this has been john's lunch. i had about seven of these from the diner i went to this morning. you know you had a twinkie and you had a whoopi pie. >> let me check your pulse. that's bad. >> we'll be bringing you our show here all weekend. john and i will be playing frisbee until that happens. >> i don't want to keep you from your frisbee game so i'll cut you guys loose. get back to it and use some of that sugar high while you can from all of those twinkies. >> wish you were here. see you later. well, one of the first big tests for the gop field will
occur monday when cnn hosts the new hampshire presidential debate. join us as republican hopefuls gather to size one another up and debate the issues. the new hampshire republican presidential debate next monday night only on cnn. which european country is facing fines over its care of hamsters? find out in 60 seconds.
it's half past the hour. here is a look at some of the stories you may have missed. the state of alaska has released some 24,000 pages of e-mails from sarah palin's years as governor. the material includes e-mails dealing with state business, both from palin's official account and her private accounts.
the move is a response to freedom of information act requests from cnn and other news agencies. we'll have a live report from cnn's drew griffin in alaska who is picking up the documents. we'll have that report at the top of the hour. new york congressman anthony weiner insists he will not resign over the outrage over his sexting scandal. this week he confessed to sending similar messages to a number of women. weiner's married to hillary clinton aid huma abedin. three, two, one. we have ignition, and lift-off of aquarius. >> in an effort to better understand climate change, nasa launched a new satellite into orbit from vandenberg air force base in california today. "a "aquarius" should help scientists better predict
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d still ahead, part three of our 360 investigation, the sissy boy experiment -- uncovering the truth. decades old research that's still being embraced by those that think they can prevent kids from becoming gay, kids like ryan kendall. >> i don't get that decade of my life back. i don't get those opportunities back. and i don't get my family back. and i will live with the damage that these individuals did for the rest of my life. e, is all we humans get. we spend them on treadmills. we spend them in traffic. and if we get lucky, really lucky, it dawns on us to go spend them in a world where a simple sunrise can still be magic. twenty-five thousand mornings. make sure some of them are pure michigan. your trip begins at michigan.org.
today our 360 investigation, sissy boy experiment, uncovering the truth, moves to the present. over the last couple of days we've shown you what happened more than three decades ago to a little boy named kirk andrew murphy. he got enrolled in a government funded study aimed at making effeminate boys more masculine. he was just 5 years old. it was the early 1970s and his treatment was called a success by the man who ran the study. but kirk's siblings told us their brother was deeply damaged by the experimental treatment he received and struggled with being gay all of his life. when he was 38 years old, he hanged himself. but the research that was done on kirk murphy lives on. it's still being cited by those who think they can prevent children from becoming gay. and some children like kirk whose parents don't want them to be gay were sent to something called repairtive therapy. ryan kendall was one of them.
dproei i growing up, ryan kendall had a secret that he shared in the pages of his diary. but when ryan was just 13 his mother read his diary and discovered ryan was gay. it was the beginning of the most painful years of his life. >> i didn't question the world i had grown up in. i thought there was some legitimacy to this idea that i was an evil sinner who was going to burn in hell, and for years i thought that god hated me because i was gay. >> reporter: ryan says his parents were determined to change their son, as ryan tells it, his parents signed him up for what's called repairativ therapy with the national association of research and therapy for homosexuality, otherwise known as narth. >> every day i would hear this is a choice, this could be fixed. >> did you believe that? >> i never believed that. i know i'm gay just like i know i'm short and half hispanic. i never thought that those folks would change. it is part of my core
fundamental identity. so the parallel would be sending me to tall camp and saying, if you try really hard, one day you can be 6'1". >> reporter: ryan says he was treated by know self-nacolosi, a clinical psychologist today still associated with narth. >> it was a religious view, this is an adomination and something that makes god cry, this is something your family doesn't want for you. >> reporter: at his office outside los angeles, we asked nocolosi if he remembered treating ryan kendall about 14 years ago. >> i'm not familiar with the name at all. >> his parents have provided bills from your office. there have been checks written to your office. >> yes. yes. >> but no record. >> no. >> he says that your therapy was quite harmful. he said that he was told 1% of the world is gay. >> it's 2%. >> he said that you told him to "butch up," quote, unquote.
>> never, that's not our language. >> and that when he was sobbing he was told it was wrong to be homosexual. >> absolutely not, we do not do that kind of work. when a client begins a session, how can i help you? what do you want to work on today? i have to be seen as an ally, a helper, a good father figure, a good male image. this is what's curative. i have to be the man who accepts you for who you are. >> when somebody says people like yourself, others, are trying to get the gay out of people. >> that's a terrible way of phrasing it. i would rather say we are trying to bring ow the heterotesexuali new. >> reporter: at 14, ryan says he had no interest in changing or continuing therapy with nocolosi. >> did he understand you were there against your will? >> he absolutely knew i wasn't a willing participant but this is what he does. he takes in gay kids whose
families want them to be straight and he goes to work on them. >> nicolosi told us that's not true. and you put the child's interests before the parents even. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> he says he's kept hundreds of children from growing up to be gay. one of the researchers he points to is this man, george rekers, a big believer that homosexuality can be prevented. nicolosi even cites reker's book in his work. he uses rekers' therapy with effeminate boys that this therapy can help children from growing up to be gay. he says "growth into a heterosexual identity is indeed possible." >> george rekers has done pioneering work in this until many, many years. >> reporter: what he didn't know was that the boy he cites as a success story whose real name is kirk murphy struggled with being
gay his entire life. he committed suicide in 2003 when he was 38 years old. kirk's family says the torment brought on by the therapy is why kirk took his own life. but rekers argues there's no way to prove his therapy had anything to do with kirk's suicide decades later. >> george rekers has done a lot of research. he's done a lifetime of research. if there's somebody who committed suicide, that's tragic. but we have to look at the body of literature. that's what we are relying on. >> reporter: nicolosi claims science supports the idea that people are not born gay. >> we say that homosexuality is an adaptation to an emotional breach with the parents, primarily parents of the same sex or for the boy, it's an emotional breach, a failure to
bond with the father. >> dr. joseph nicolosi simply makes things up when it comes to science. >> reporter: wayne bessen is an advocate for gay equality with the organization truth wins out. >> he says a person who is a gay man is a distant father and isn't good at sports. i, for example, was an all-city basketball player in high school and am incredibly close to my father. >> reporter: the american psychiatric association opposes repairat repairative therapy. the group's position statement says the risks are great including self-destructive behavior. nicolosi says his therapy isn't harmful and only treats people who want to change. does it concern you there may and psychological impact on some of these kids? >> i mean there's much more push from society to be not homosexual, not to be gay. >> you say they feel more pressure out there than in here. >> absolutely. >> every day i deal with people who have been harmed who were survivors of these groups to try
to say they can pry away the gay and change people from gay to straight. and i can tell you it is incredibly destructive. it harms people in a very deep level. >> reporter: ryan is now back in school. he says the only way he was able to escape therapy with nicolosi was by surrendering himself to the department of human services in colorado springs and legally separating from his family. but he'd been through more than a year of therapy by then and had already slipped into a deep depression and thoughts of suicide. >> what they did hurt me. it tore apart my family. it led me to periods of homelessness, to drug abuse, to spending a decade of my life wanting to kill myself. it led to so much pain and struggle and i want them to know that what they do hurts people,
it hurts children, it has no basis in fact and they need to stop. this. >> this is unfair to have these accusations put to me like this. i'm not familiar with the case. all i can do is speak in generalities and we would never do that to any client. >> what happened to me is not something that goes away. i don't get that decade of my life back. i don't get those opportunities back. and i don't get my family back. and i will live with the damage that these individuals did for the rest of my life. >> reporter: now 28, ryan has plans to become a lawyer one day, to advocate for children because, he says, no one was there to stand up for him. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. >> you can tune in tonight to "ac 360" for continued coverage of "the sissy boy experiments."
foreground every day traffic. but in the background you're seeing nato's attacks on moammar gadhafi's compound. some say nato is not just targeting his camp. forces are going after the libyan leader himself. gadhafi is said to be "a legitimate target" under mnato' mandate to use all necessary measures. but another spokesman says nato is not targeting individuals. three months since an earthquake triggered its nuclear disaster, japan is adding four new areas to its radiation zones, those are areas with unsafe exposure. 3 of the 4 zones are in the area about 31 miles from the fukushima daiichi plant where several reactors were damaged, you may recall. the fourth area is about 21 miles from the plant. up i-reports some of these locations have six times the
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if my next guest has his way, one day checking yourself out in a mirror could be almost as important as a doctor's visit. an inventor invented a mirror that you don't need any electrical wires hooked up to your body, but the graduate from the m.i.t. joins me from cambridge. ming, tell me about the mirror.
how is it that you don't have to touch it and it can track your health? >> well, thank you efor invitin me. this mirror is special, because it not only reflects your physical appearance, but your health indicator and the principle behind this is to use light to measure volumetric changes in the body. so think of the heart as a muscle that pumps blood and when it beats it introduces more blood into the vessels which causes it to expand slightly and blood absorbs light, so that the additional volume of blood requires more light to be absorbed and less let off, so using a simple camera we can pick up the changes of intensity every time that your heart beats. >> how accurate is it? >> well, it is quite accurate within three beats per minute compared to a commercial device. >> do you think that one day it might test other vital signs? >> yeah, we have worked on other
vital signs. right now we know we can measure the breathing rate and something called heart rate variability which is a index of the autonomic system, and other parameters such as oxygen saturation and blood pressure. >> ming, it sounds great. i'm fascinated by it, and we are glad that we were able to have you on the show to talk about it a little bit. thank you so much. good luck with it. >> thank you for having me. >> and for much more about the medical mirror, check out our blog at cnn.com/ali and tune in tomorrow or actually monday -- because we are off tomorrow, and hope you are, too, but as always same big i time on the same big i channel on monday. disgraced former republican senator mark foley suggests that congressman anthony weiner might be better served if he leaves congress. dana bash will update us on the saga after the break. i love that my daughter's part fish.
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we will put it up and read it to you. please forgive me for the inconvenience outside of all of the press, and hopefully it will pass soon and thank you. that is the note he wrote to the fellow tenants. meanwhile, he is getting advice from a former disgraced congressman who is the former representative foley who resigned after found that he sent e-mails to teenaged pages, but based on his experience he says that weiner should leave congress and he is not going to get better going back into the building hoping that people give him a pass, and that building meaning this building the united states congress where people are not happy with him. >> and what is the latest on newt gingrich now that half or much of the team has disappeared? >> he is vowing that he is going to do quote whatever it takes to
stay in the race. despite that there are a lot of question, and loud questions about whether he can survive the run for president based on the fact that his structure that his senior aides and the headquarters in key states are gone in mass exodus. he put a posting on the facebook page saying he is in fact staying in the race and he has been in public life for 40 years and knows the rigors of the campaign and he will endure them, and randi, we should note that he is saying that he will be par pit ptiecipating in the monday on cnn that will be moderated by our own john king. moderated by our own john king. >> thank you, dana bash. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com okay. so it has been an hour or so since the state of alaska put out a mountain of sarah palin e-mails from her stint as governor. thousands of pages requested by cnn and others when john mccain and others picked a running mate that no one in the lower 48 had ever heard of.
and now it has taken this long to know what had to be held back and what didn't in juneau. and palin tells fox news she is not worried about what the world might read. >> a lot of those e-mails obviously weren't meant for public consumption, and they are between staff member, and they are probably between family members, so i'm sure that people will capitalize on this opportunity to go through 25,000 e-mails and perhaps take things out of context. they will never truly know what the contextt of each one of the e-mails was. >> and andrew is with us from juneau. drew, is this trivial stuff or monumental or something in between? >> you know, it's hard to tell. there's a lot and lot of mundane work of the alaska state governor's office that we are poring through. i will show you that we are literallyly trying to go throug the boxes right now. we have four of them on the table and somewhat of an index
and they are not chronological so it is difficult to scan these for important dates or important events that happened in her two or three years as governor. but ranrandi, it shows you all the things that governor palin had to deal with. in this e-mail here, someone is complaining to walt monegan, the public safety director she eventually retired a retired legislator saying she was spotted with trig in a car not wearing an approved car seat, and the governor writes back that this complaint is ridiculous and i have never driven anywhere without a car seat, and she says, who is it? who is that legislator complaining? and this is one discussing whether she is going to participate in the "fitness" magazine, and i will do it if there is something cool like hiking with trig in a jogger and
backpack. and this is a funny one from her lieutenant governor who is now the governor writing, senator stevens was stuck in juneau calling me this morning in an effort to see if he could charter the governor's plane and sarah palin writes back, doesn't he know that i don't have a plane? she sold the plane, remember? and a lot of mundane issues, and as she said on the sound bite on fox news, a lot of things that nobody thought would be released to the public, but they are in the interoffice memos, et cetera, but there are so far nothing that we don't already know. >> and are these in the office computer only, or are personal e-mails contained in the six boxes as well? >> well, some are personal coming from her personal account. her yahoo account going back and forth between staffers and other legislators and other executives within the alaska state government and anything that the state deemed could be part of
her official duties is what they included. what they excluded is attorney/client privilege documents. obviously, extremely personal things that have nothing to do with state business. and what they are calling this process stuff where they want to allow the free flow of information between legislators to discuss policy issues without having to worry about anybody reading them in the future, so that there can be open deliberations, and again, they released 24,000 of these documents, and it is -- we are just going through them. >> and any indication of the impact that this document dump as we call it might have on her decision about a presidential ru run? >> on her decision on a presidential run if she decides to do that, i don't think so at this moment. certainly, her camp is not preparing for any smoking guns to be found in here, although i'm sure there is going to be some who will try to make hay out of whatever they do find.
what is going to be as i see is harmful is a lot of relationships here in the state of alaska may be harmed when certain political enemies and certain political allies realize behind the scenes what has been said about them. so there is going to be a lot of airing of emotions in the e-mails which could hurt friendships here in alaska. >> all right. drew griffin for us in juneau with the documents. thank you, drew. we should apologize to you at home, because there was a little difficulty of drew's spot because we were coming to you with live broadband connection, and we wanted to get you a look at the documents, so we apologize for that. and today, the casey anthony murder trial through the eyes of nancy grace. nancy joined me last hour after several wrenching hours of crime scene technicians who recovered the remains of casey's 2-year-old daughter caylee. i asked her about the defendant's purported illness that forced the trial to end
early yesterday. >> i was not so sure that she was sick as much as she was sick of the testimony. one thing i noticed, randi, and i have been watching her carefully, when her mother, cindy anthony, took the stand, she was so broken up, that she could not raise up here and went through a box of kleenex. randi, she has been through one kleenex has tot mom, and she has been crying for two days, but she has used one kleenex. >> she claims that little caylee drowned in the family pool, and the grandfather helped cover it up. the george e.b. holding is a holdover from the bush administration, and he is a successor picked by president
obama awaiting confirmation. edwards' a former candidate for president is being prosecuted for covering up payments to his mistress. gates and predecessors have been trying to get nato to pony up for the missions they want to take on, but never ever has a u.s. defense chief stood up to warn the nato alliance that they face a dim if not dismal future if they don't shape up. listen to this. >> there is dwindling appetite and patience in the united states congress and the american poll politic at large. to expend increasingly precious funds on behalf of nations that are apparently unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be serious and capable partners
in their own defense. nations apparently willing and eager for american taxpayers to assume the growing security burden left by reductions in european defense budgets. >> nato, as you know, has formed to counter europe and the allies, but it has not only dwindled since the cold war, but grown. gates can speak his mind because he is retiring at the end of the month. and now tracy morgan wept on a tirade bashing gays and he was performing in front of a packed house at rieman auditorium, but one person in the audience posted some of the things he said, including this, if his son was gay, he better come home to talk to him like a man and not and then he mimicked a gay language and high pitched voice or he would pull out a knife and stabbed that little n-word to death. that is not all. morgan issued this statement, i
want to apologize to my fans and gay and lesbian community for the recent words at my standup act in nashville and i'm not a hateful person and i don't condone any violence against others. while i'm a jokester, and my friends know my heart, even in a comedy club this clearly went too far and it was not funny in any context. of course, we want to know what you think about this, so join our conversation on the blog and go to cnn.com/ali or post on my or ali's twitter pages. keep those comments coming. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve.
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popular actor and comedian tracy morgan's latest standup is blowing up in a major controversy and turning out to be no laughing matter at all and now morgan is apologizing and he went on a homophobic laugh. the comedian known to push for laughs was performing before a packed house at the rieman auditorium where he went on a rant about homosexuals. i spoke to a man who was in the audience and posted on facebook some of the things that morgan said. kevin says that at one point morgan said there is no way a woman could love and have sexual desire for another woman, and that is a woman pretending, because she hates a fing man, and if the son is gay he better come home and talk to him like a man where he mimicked a
high-pitched voice or he would pull out a knife and stab that little n-word to death. and he didn't fing care if he pissed anybody off. and now glaad is calling for an investigation into the reports and issued this statement. the glaad president says, if th proved true, we call on him to remove these violently anti-gay remarks from his show. and this one from the human rights campaign, if these allegations are true, tracy morgan must immediately accept responsibility and apologize, and his employee nbc universal also must come forward and condemn these atrocious comments. and we spoke to a man in the audience about his reaction. >> i was absolutely shocked and
amazed at what i e was hearing. i knew i was going to be see a comedian who does push the envelope and expecting to hear all sorts of different probably inappropriate humor, but i didn't expect to hear an attack on the gay community. >> as i mentioned tracy morgan has apologized, kevin, so i want to read you his statement. he says i want to apologize to my fans and the gay and lesbian community for my choice of words at a standup act in nashville. i oohm not a hateful person and doesn't condone any kind of violence. while i'm an equal opportunity jokester, and my friends know what is in my heart, even in a comedy club this is clearly going too far and i apologize. >> i appreciate the apology and i hope that is genuine and how he feels. if that is the case, and he shows my community and his fans
that he truly is sorry for those remarks and takes content like that from his show, then, yeah, i greatly accept his apology. >> as you have said, you certainly didn't expect the act to be clean, but when he said what he said about stabbing his son, if he came home and told him that he was gay, how did that specific remark sit with you? >> it had gotten to the point within the rant that i was actually a little numb to everything that was being said. i was still trying to process everything, and decide if there was going to be a punch line somewhere or exactly what was i hearing, so to me, it really was just the entire thing really did hurt me. you know, that of course the violent aspect of that comment actually even thought that at a point, well, maybe he is at
least joking about that. not that something to joke about, but you know, that is pretty serious. >> and what was the audience response? were you able to notice were people laughing or booing or what was the response? >> as ashamed as i am for the nashville audience, there was applause during that. and seemed to with the exception of, there were some people who weren't laughing or clapping and seemed to be sitting there in shock, but there were also a lot of people who just really for lack of a better way of putting it kind of hooted and hollered. >> did anyone leave? >> throughout his entire performance there were times that we noticed that people were leaving and his performance includes a lot of comments about women and his belief in their place in the world. and so -- >> what was his demeanor as he started this part of the act? did his demeanor change or was it the way it was throughout the whole show?
>> i could tell that it seemed to go from a joking demeanor to this is a point in my show to where i'm very serious about what i'm saying. it was very forthright. there wasn't, and didn't seem to be any joking involved at that point, but it was here is my platform. >> you posted your feelings, as i said, on facebook and you tweeted about it and writing and saw tracy morgan in nashville last night and nothing but hate for the gays. that is what the tweet said, and you added, i was saddened by this and what kind of response have you received online? >> it has been kind of crazy. i've received all sorts of support from people across the united states. i have actually also received a little bit of hate, but far, far outweighed by the number of people who are supporting me and wanting to be my friend on
facebook, and just patting me on the back and saying thanks that they appreciated it. so, it has been overall positive, but i never expected on friday that i was going to be on cnn today. >> i'm sure. >> i know that before you came on cnn, that according to my producer, you had to actually come out to your mom? >> yeah. i -- yeah, it is something that i've -- we have never really discussed and i always had a feeling that my family knew, but i was not comfortable having that discussion, and then i knew that how things happened, and nashville is a large city, but it also a small community in a way, so i knew that at some point tonight i would be receiving a phone call from my mother, saying, somebody called me and saw you on cnn, what's the deal? so i thought that this is a time that i'm really going to have to step up and make that phone call and say, here, look, this is
what is going to happen, and whatever you hear, here is the truth. she was very supportive, and was great. i love her and my dad very much for the way they have raised me. >> and we do want to mention that we will have much more on this story coming up in the stream team discussion where we will be joined by glaad president jared barrios, and that will be coming up live on cnn in 30 minutes or so, and so stick around for that one, of course. and we want to know what you think of tracy morgan's remarks. join the conversation on our blogs at cnn.com/ali or my or ali's twitter pages as well. some are calling it a war, and it is the united states versus a virtual army of whistle pl blowers who leak frequently and freely online and the leader is julian assange and a side of him you have not seen before as we preview "wiki wars" a cnn
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we should suppress the piece. >> and that is the wikiwars, and the mention of julian assange which premiers in two days and joining me from the special investigations unit is cars larson and what is the latest on assange's legal situation for those of us who don't keep up with it as well as you do? >> sure. we have been looking into it and following it for a while, but there is a well known legal predicament in he is in sweden with the allegations of misconduct, and he is fighting extradition there, but lesser known and more threatening to julian assange himself is that the u.s. justice department has launched an inquiry and there are grand jury subpoenas of wikileaks supporters as of late, and that is more daunting for assange. >> you and i have talked before about assange and bradley manning who may have or may not have given him this information and what do we know about
private bradley manning and the relationship with assange? >> well, what we know comes from chats with conversations of bradley manning and another former hacker, and so all of the information comes from those chats, but you have gotten to the critical point here. bradley manning is the linchpin of the case against assange. if the u.s. government can prove that assange solisted this information from bradley manning then he is in a deeper pool when it comes to his legal jeopardy. >> and the whole picture comes apart completely. >> yes, because assange can say he was acting as "the new york times" does or any other media public when they get classified information. >> so what is determined there determines the future of wikileaks? >> well, we don't know the future of wikileaks, but i will say that it is inextricable from
the fate of julian assange, because he is synonymous with the organization. so as sails assange there goes wikileaks as well. >> i know you are working on this for quite some time and did you find out anything about julian assange that maybe we haven't known before? >> i think that it is really interesting to watch his sort of candid reactions when he is not really away that he is being filmed or behind the scenes assange, because he is quite funny, and wicked smart. at the same time, he has a sense of hubris, and arrogance that i think that has made it difference for him to get along with many of the supporters. >> all right. kaj larsen, we will keep an eye out for your special investigation and a reminder for the show and reminder to you at home, "the mission of julian assange, wikiwars" which will air right here sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern time.
and coming up on cnn heroes is saving children from scrapping for food in garbage dumps. without food, their education is bleak. that is where this week's cnn hero comes in. >> currently in argentina there are a lot of children working. in this area children work recovering waste from the garbage dump to sell for a small profit. it can be very small children, 3, 4, 5 years old. all parents want a better life for their children than what they had, but there are times when the whole family has to work and try to make ends meet. my name is elina duron and my mission is to help the children of the trash dump get out so they no longer have to work there to survive. when i arrived in argentina, it
was so hard to see so many small children picking through the garbage. many of these boys and girls have dropped out of school. i decided to do something for them. >> we tried to be as fully integrated as possible. there is a school tracking group of psychologists and a social worker. we work with the family and the value of putting them in school. any time we get a child close to school, it is a seed we are planting. we hope not to see the child on the street again. if he returns, we go after him. education is how we start to break the vicious cycles to give children a better future. i learned something from the children everyday, to be happy even under complex circumstances. >> her organization provides customized educational programs to about 200 children and their
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it is definitely hot out, but now there is trouble with snow, so let's head over to chad myers and help us make sense of this, please. >> when it warms up too fast snow melts, and there are flood warnings and flood watches all through the west as now the sun beating on the snow pack of 70-feet deep in some spots is now melting it. so you have to watch out. even watch out where it has been dry, because the rivers won't be dry, and the snow coming down the hill. look at atlanta city, new jersey, yesterday. it has never been over 100 degrees this early in a season ever, and it was 102 yesterday. and newark, 102. and washington, d.c., the district of columbia was 102 and the heat index was higher than that. and baltimore was 100 and chattanooga all of the way up to 97. one story we been watching for the last few days is the wind in arizona and what has it been doing?
and has it been slowing down for the firefighters? yes, it has. and here is the highest gust i have seen so high today, 3, 2, 7 and nothing in the double-digits which is great news for the firefighters there. let's go off of the radar here. and i don't know if you saw the launch earlier, but a delta rocket went straight up in the air just like it is supposed to carrying nasa's new satellite. kind of a joint venture, argentina, and u.s. will be able to look down at the surface of the earth and the oceans in particular and find out where the salinity is high, and where the salinity is low. i love to watch things take off like that as a little rocket model kid, and when that we launched that thing in a three-year experience we will find out what fresh water is melting and what salt water is getting saltier because of evaporati evaporation. it will have a lot more information from the
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♪ one team. one planet. bridgestone. it is about half past the hour and here is a look at the stories that you may have missed. the state of alaska has released some 24,000 pages of e-mails from sarah palin's years as governor. it includes e-mails from state business from palin's official and private accounts. the move is a response to the freedom of information act from cnn and other news agencies. actor/comedian tracy morgan
apologizing today after a performance in nashville last week that included several angry anti-gay remarks. in morgan's apology he said he is not a hateful person and even in a comedy club this went too far and it is not funny in any conte context. and anthony weiner says he will not retire even after theis exting scandal. this week, he confirmed to sending similar messages to the one he sent to a woman in washington state. he is married to huma abidin. and now france says the government is not doing enough to protect these little guys. they say that truls are insufficient to prevent deterioration of breeding sites. they are considered rodents by most french farmers and they were trapped until they got official protection in 1990.
should prayer be a part of a high school graduation? a lawsuit filed last month by an agnostic family in texas says it has no place there. the schultz family org yargued their son would suffer irreparable harm if someone prayed at the graduation ceremony, but last friday state attorney general greg abbott says it should not be illegal for students to say a prayer at a graduation ceremony and now the court of appeals agrees.
the graduation went off without corwin schultz and his famply in attendance. corwin and his mother, crista, join us for an exclusive interview. corwin, tell us why it was that you didn't want prayer at your graduation. >> because it says clearly in the constitution that it is separation of church and state and the school is a state-run program with our tax money poured into it. >> and crista, the original lawsuit was filed last month and how long has this been going on? >> this has been going on and we have been working with the school district for at least three years now. trying to craft an inclusive ceremony that would respect religions of everyone. we had asked for a moment of silence instead of an announced prayer where everyone was asked to stand and bow their heads as
had happened at previous ceremonies. we didn't have an issue with student speakers. student speakers have broad rights to express their religious beliefs or to credit which ever deity they follow with their success. student speakers kind of turned into a side issue. our problem, our issue was with the school district sponsoring prayer not only at graduation, but throughout the high school. it is a christian high school masquerading as a public school, and it is publicly funded. >> well, when i hear that -- >> and -- >> and when i hear you say it is a christian high school masquerading as a public school, some might say, corwyn, why didn't you switch schools? >> because it is in my district, and if it is a public school, i won't move houses because public school is saying prayers, and
that is not how america is run, sorry. >> and corwyn, and every other student at the school have a right to a religion-neutral environment. and medina valley high school is anything but. the principal and other school officials regularly appeal for god's blessing on sporting events or other school events. >> over the announcements. >> over the intercom. it is not appropriate and certainly not religion-neutral. it is promoting not only religion over non-religion, but specifically christianity over any other religion. and the clear message there is that if you are not a christian, you are not welcome. >> and corwyn, quickly, how has the reaction been to this and your involvement in this? >> from close friends i have gotten support.
from the community, itself, they don't like me. there's a lot of signs in town bless the atheist, and we are not atheist, we are agnostic, and if you are going to bless us, get it right. but it is just that they don't like is, and it is very apparent. there are signs on the fast food, like, on the bush's chicken in town, it says congratulations seniors may god bless and that was put up the day that i went in there. >> do you feel safe there in town? >> more or less as long as i'm with somebody. >> all right. corwyn and crista, appreciate your time and coming onb the talk about this. thank you. your house car, that luxurious vacation that you have dreamed about and all of those combined probably cost less than your child. you don't want to miss this next.
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popular actor and comedian tracy morgan's latest stand-up is blowing up in a controversy and turning out to be no laughing matter. now he is apologizing. he is known to push the envelope for laughs, but he was performing in front of a packed house at the rieman auditorium in nashville, and in the middle of the show he went into a rant over homosexuals. kevin rogers was in the audience
and posted on facebook some of the things that morgan said. to be clear, we don't have an exact transcript of morgan's remarks, but kevin poeposted att that there is no way a woman could love and have sexual desire for another woman, that's just a woman pretending she is a fing man. and if his son was gay he better come home and talk to him like a man and not mimics gay high pitched voice and talk to him like a man or he would stab him. and so now glaad spoke up and the human rights campaign issued this statement today. if these allegations are true, tracy morgan must immediately accept responsibility and apology, and his employer nbc universal must come forward and condemn these atrocious
comments. so the subject for the stream team is can comedy go too far? we have three guests with us here to talk about this. thank you all for coming on to talk about this. dean, you worked with tracy morgan at "saturday night live" and what do you think of the comments? did he go too far? >> i think he went too far, and even tracy knows he went too far. he apologized today. his sense of humor is politically incorrect and crude, but never hateful, and this is clearly over the boundaries for what is acceptable for comedy. i am glad he apologized, because you cannot demonize a group, and find that acceptable. i will take him at his word and accept his apology. >> and morgan, he says he wants to apologize to the fans and the gay and lesbian community for my hateful remarks in nashville, and i'm not a hateful person and don't condone any kind of
violence. while i'm an equal opportunity jokester, my friends know what is in my heart, and even in a comedy club this clearly went too far. ma marvette, do you think that he needs to apology for the act? >> well, the act was hateful, but the apology was strong and he made it clear he was not a hateful person. tracy like most comedians like to operate in a free moral zone, but this is actually offensive, and he is not hateful having met him and being privy to the work, but he crossed the line in discriminating against a group of people who are certainly very important and certainly fans of his art. >> jared, your organization, glaad, released a statement today in response to morgan's rant, and i want to share it with the viewers. we call on him to remove these anti-gay violent remarks and send a strong message that
anti-gay violence is not something to joke about. your organization is all for freedom of speech, but do you feel that he went too far? do you believe that a homophobic rant like this can cause damage? >> well, this isn't about -- and be very clear, this isn't about discrimination and him advocating discrimination. he made fun of gay kids being bullied in schools, and he said that kids are gay because of parental rejection, and this is the thing that is serious and green light for that sort of discrimination, and yes, apology is nice, but that is a start. we have already spoken with his publicist today. we want tracy morgan to meet with the parents of kids who have killed themselves or who have lost their lives at the hands of violence, and we want him to meet homeless gay kids and talk to them because they have been kicked out because of their parents' homophobia and these are the things that tracy morgan needs to do with the
apology which is nice, but there is more that he needs to do and he needs to make a statement condemning this type of rhetoric aimed at group, and the fact is that everybody should be condemning this violence. >> and marvet, does nbc have any control over the stand-up act if he works for 30 rock? >> well, sh, absolutely. they hire him and they employ him, so he should use the platform for a greater cause and to bring about an awareness of an issue that is really a very detrimental one, so i agree that he should use the platform for good and rather than ridiculing a community. so they can really support him in doing that, and i think that tracy should use this platform, because bullying in any circumstance is not right. if he is really made privy to the issues, he will use his platform for a greater good. >> and dean, in creating a routine, i'm curious how you know when you have gotten too
close to crossing the line? do you know? >> you really know how you know, the reaction from the audience. you can say anything as a comedian and that is the beauty of it, but there are consequences for what you say. you go too far, the audience will tell you, and in this case the media and the mainstream community saying, tracy, you went too far, and tracy knows it. as comedians some have pushed the envelope and influenced social change like richard pryor and lenny bruce and others, and this is hurting comedy, because it is not trusting us and instead of pushing the envelope the right way, it is the wrong way by demonizing a group that is already suffering. >> and this is worth noting that this took place in nashville, and in nashville two weeks ago the governor repealed the local nondiscrimination ordnaninance,d it is legal to fire someone because they are gay, and the word gay is illegal in the
schools in tennessee, and this is an environment filled with discrimination and the bigotry and the hatred that he was speaking to when he spoke to that crowd. it is more than an embarrassment and al poll ji -- apology, but to embrace the words and change the hearts and minds and make gay folks more welcome in tennessee and across the country. >> marvet, if you were advising tracy morgan today, what would you advise him to do? meet with the parents who have been bullied or parents whose children have committed suicide, because now regardless of the apology, what he said is out there. >> yes, absolutely. a lot of the statements made by folks who discriminate regardless of the group or sector is rooted in ignorance. so it needs to be told how deep and harmful the comments can go and the gravity of communities and amongst people, and it could end up doing the opposite of what he thought.
i think that tracy thought he was entertaining, but he caused more harm. so it starts with education, and then it can grow from there. he is certainly should use again his platform for change and to educate so that people with these practices and discrimination and bullying is active and taking place and harmful and hurtful, and once he is aware of that, he can ignite a change, and entertainment and celebrities are powerful. they are revered and celebrated, and he is the coveted celebrated comedian who could use this platform for change once he is aware of the issue, and the walking out of the show and the abandoning the folks s who left the show make him aware of the problem and now he can fix it. >> thank you all for coming on today. and we want to know what you think ofmorgan's remarks. can you can post on cnn.com/ali
or my or ali's twitter or facebook pages. cnn continues with t.j. holmes right after this quick break. [ male announcer ] this is lara. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels.