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i'm learning something from you was i hearing. tonight. so to me it really was just the i'll know more about how you think than i knew yesterday. and i'll know a lot of stuff entire thing really did hurt me. here. >> with greatest respect i think i have learned sliltly more as have the viewers from you >> all right. tonight than you will ever learn that was kevin rogers. from me. but it's been a real pleasure. he was there as comedian tracy morgan went off in the worst >> thank you for having me. it's been a treat. way, that's according to some >> thank you so much. audience members. it happened in nashville on june 3rd. we don't have it verbatim but here is what rogers' account of what morgan said. he said if his son was gay, he this is ultimately a decision for my constituents better come home and talk to him like a man and not, here he and, look, i've made mistakes as i said on monday, a lot of these reportedly mimicked a gay high questions i answered on monday. pitched voice, or he would pull now i'll just try to get back to out a knife and stab that little work. "n" word to death. >> story lines galore tonight in the saga that is anthony weiner. robert says morgan went on to democratic leadership calling say he didn't "f"'ing care if he for his resignation as weiner himself says he's seeking help. pissed off some gays. tracy morgan apologized but the best political team on television is here to weigh in. comedian tracy morgan's critics say nbc should fire him homophobic rant, even saying he would kill his own son if he was from his show, "30 rock."
gay. a comedian who worked side by dean used to work with him on side with morgan on "saturday night live" tells us what he thinks of the comments and the fallout. "snl." you haven't seen tracy in three years but does this sound like >> i believe only i can get back the tracy you know? >> actually, no. on the baseball field. all you have to do is keep the tracy i worked with at working hard every day, 9:00 to "saturday night live" was very 5:00. keep getting stronger every day. continue to make progress. positive, funny guy. >> a young man who should be an his sense of humor was crude, lewd at times, but it was never inspiration for all of us, a college athlete on the verge of hateful. i never heard any statements that were demeaning anyone or in a career in baseball now any way, and this tone. paralyzed after a horrifying on field collision. but the story does not have a there were some openly gay staff tragic ending. this hour the latest chapter members at "saturday night that will leave you smiling. live," and we would have heard hello, everyone, i'm don lemon it. this is completely out of the tracy morgan that i know, out of live from manchester, new his character. hampshire, where cnn is getting >> so where do you think it came set to host a gop presidential debate. from then? >> i could speculate. those stories and much more i mean, he could have thought he right here in the cnn newsroom. was being really edgy, he wanted we start with this. he lied, he denied, he to push the envelope. a lot of comedians do. it could have been late in the apologized. night. he could have had a few drinks. now tonight congressman anthony weiner is seeking professional what led to it, i'm not sure. help after the strongest call i'm not sure why tracy morgan yet for his resignation.
would have made these comments. weiner wants treatment. now that his tragic online flirtations with women have there is a line and in this case become all too public, top he clearly went over the line and he knows it. democratic members of weiner's tracy to his credit apologized today very clearly. own party like house leader yesterday, very clearly. nancy pelosi now say they want said it was wrong. him gone. sud nshould not be in a comedy here's how democratic national committee chairwoman debbie wasserman-schultz put it. club or anywhere. >> it was with great that's a great step to acknowledge that. disappointment that i call my >> your memory of him really goes in line with tina fey's. her entertainment weekly colleague anthony weiner to resign. response, she said the violent the behavior he's shown has been reprehensible. imagery of tracy's rant was his continued service is untenable. disturbing. this affair has become an it also doesn't line up with the tracy morgan i know who is not a unacceptable distraction for representative weiner, his hateful man and is generally family, his quaets, and the much too sleepy and house, and for the good of all self-centered to hurt another person. he should step aside and address those things that should be most so you and she said it was a important, his and his family's well-being. comedian's comments but do you think that he should be fired or >> all right. here's nancy pelosi's statement. she says congressman weiner has do you think he shouldn't be a love of his family, the confidence of his constituents fired? >> at this point i don't think and the recognition that he he should be fired, and i hate needs help. to be flippant about it, but he i urge congressman weiner to should go to rehab. seek that help without the it seems in america when you make this terrible thing you get pressures of being a member of
congress. one get out of jail go to rehab our very own jason carroll thing, maybe go with anthony caught up with congressman weiner. weiner while he was walking on making a gesture more than an the streets of new york. apology would be a great they talked about everything, statement. maybe doing something with the from calls to his resignation gay community to show this was to the news that delaware police isolated, that he's not homof are investigating an alleged contact between weiner and a 17-year-old girl. jason? homophob homophob >> reporter: it's not clear homophobic. there's no way tina fey would put up with tracy morgan if this where the congressman has gone was how he was on that stage on the set of "30 rock." to seek treatment or how long he will be there. there's no way. a spokesperson released a she would not allow that to statement saying congressman happen. believe me, audiences in the weiner departed this morning to seek professional treatment to future will be watching. everyone will have their cameras focus on becoming a better on on their phone, if he says husband and healthier person. anything else like this, it will in light of that he'll request a be on youtube and that will short leave of absence from the destroy his career. house of representatives so that we have freedom of expression but there's consequences. he can get evaluated and map out when you're on stage, i view it a course of treatment to make himself well. as a privilege. if you're going to use it for clearly, before he went to seek this, you're going to pay the price for it and i think you should do. treatment earlier today we ran >> dean, who worked with tracy across congressman weiner and i want you to listen to what he morgan on "snl," we appreciate said when he was questioned you joining us. up next, he says it's to, about calls for his resignation. >> just to reconfirm about quote, make himself well.
resignation. >> i have no news for you today. anthony weiner announcing he's >> no plans -- >> nothing has changed. now seeking treatment. our very own jane >> you're not resigning. velez-mitchell, the author of >> reporter: i had an "addict nation" will join me to opportunity to speak with the congressman about a number of talk about weiner getting this treatment. we're live in new hampshire. issues, questioning him about and as we go to break, i want that online communication he had with a teenager from delaware. apparently what had happened is you to check out this time lapse this teenage girl followed the video of the debate hall setup. congressman on twitter after he came to her school. she admired him. he said that there was nothing inappropriate about the online communication so now i want you to listen to a little bit more about what the congressman had to say about that and other issues. >> nothing explicit, nothing indecent. nothing inappropriate. >> you have been reaching out to a number of people. down the hill? man: all right. can you tell me about what advice? we were actually thinking, maybe... you have spoken with the clintons? we're going to hike up here, so we'll catch up with you guys. >> i'm having conversation with [ indistinct talking and laughter ] people. neighbors, friends, members of the family. i've made some serious mistakes and i have to redeem myself and i'll try to get back network. whew! i think it's worth it. these are personal failings. working with a partner you can trust >> reporter: congressman weiner
is always a good decision. telling me originally it was his plan to get back to work as soon massmutual. let our financial professionals help you reach your goals. as monday but it's very clear now that it appears that is not going to happen. he will be checking into treatment. it remains to be seen whether or not checking in to treatment will actually stop the calls for his resignation. don? >> all right. jason, thank you very much. as his fellow democrats abandoned him, weiner is at a very crucial moment right now. i want to bring in mark preston. mark, the question is, is he done? is his career as a congressman over? >> for a lot of people they do think it's over. for anthony weiner deciding to check himself in for treatment, my vet thinks my insides are in mint condition. he's trying to buy some time, maybe look for a cooling off period. [ female announcer ] vets agree, what we're told from democratic a healthy checkup starts inside. congressional leaders, dana bash our breakthrough iams premium protection formula working the story all day today, they are going to still want him is developed with vets with cutting edge ingredients to resign, to leave office. don, this is an amazing fall for the lifelong health of your pet. from grace. [ dog ] healthy inside and out. from a star in the democratic party who was on track perhaps come on, up high! [ female announcer ] iams premium protection. to be the next mayor of new york city. our most advanced iams nutrition. ever.
>> very outspoken. [ dog ] i am an iams dog. if you didn't want the answer ♪ don't ask anthony weiner because he was going to give to it you. woof. >> even the liberals, and they loved anthony weiner and now they've lost such a star. >> here's the thing. whose decision is it? because you hear the top members of the democratic party saying it's time for you to go. his constituents by a slight margin are saying, hey, stay. it's his decision alone or left up to the constituent others the leaders? >> it really comes down to him and his wife. is his wife saying enough is enough and pull our lives back together. it will lie with anthony weiner. does he want to fight this out. right now it looks like he's trying to buy some time to try to have a cooling off period. >> thank you very much. don't go anywhere because we're going to take a quick break here, but i want to talk to mark about monday night's republican debate right here in manchester and specifically i want to ask him about newt gingrich and his chances now that all those staffers have just left his campaign. plus, tina fey now weighing
in on tracy morgan's homophobic rant. what the "30 rock" actress and co-creator has to say about her co-star coming up. >> we follow don lemon on more and more calls for anthony weiner to resign. twitter. >> don lemon, cnn, you goofs. now the embattled new york congressman says he'll seek treatment. he didn't say what kind of treatment though. in here, the planned combination i want to bring in jane val l of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. velez-mitchell. this is a stunning turn around for just a few days ago, him we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... fessing up, now saying he's for greater access to all the things you want, going to seek help. he didn't say what kind of help, whenever you want them. whether he was an addict or not. it's the at&t network... is this an addict behavior? and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. >> well, he is in complete addict behavior. i know a lot of people have a tendency to regard sex addiction as a cop out and this was a debate we had when tiger woods went into rehab. remember, tiger woods didn't specifically say what he was going into rehab for either, but
anthony weiner has all the hallmarks of addiction. the denial, that's a hallmark, a red flag. the failure to see the gravity of the situation. also just the lying, the cheating, that is typical addict behavior. the defiance. all these people saying, hey, step down, and he is not listening to them at this point ♪ ♪ and defiance is a hallmark of addiction. the grandiosity, i'm so ♪ important i have to be able to stay, the sense of entitlement. addicts are the most entitled ♪ people in the world. a heroin addicts feels very entitled to his drugs and a sex addict feels very entitled to continue their behavior and introducing purina one beyond rationalizes and justifies when a new food for your cat or dog. caught. and just the irresponsibility. so i would say he checks all the red lobster like this before. your own complete four-course checkmarks. seafood feast for $15. he is an addict and i think the start with soup, biggest example and the biggest like our hearty new england clam chowder. proof of it is that anthony then enjoy a fresh salad with unlimited cheddar bay biscuits, weiner is a very, very smart guy and he's a man with a lot to
followed by your choice of one of seven entrees, lose. so he is not this stupid. like new shrimp & scallops alfredo, there has to be another dynamic at work, and i believe that spicy coconut & citrus shrimp, dynamic is his inability to or wood-grilled fresh tilapia. control his self-destructive then finish with something sweet, impulses which is the definition all for just $15. of addiction. >> you know, we've had this right now at red lobster. conversation before and you mentioned something i remember, jane, about a quick hit, whether it's a drug, whether it's, you know, through the sexting or whatever, it's like a quick hit and you get pleasure from it. >> you can define addiction. addiction is an impulse that you can't control that gives you a quick hit of pleasure but invariably results in long-term pain and incomprehension cybill demoralizati demoralization. i don't think this is something he did -- he's way too smart to think, oh, this is just innocent fun. radar online published purported personal pricing now on brakes.
tell us what you want to pay. exchanges that are all over we do our best to make that work. various papers and it's very, deal! very graphic. my money. my choice. my meineke. he's purportedly suggesting a cyber session of some sexual nature with this teacher from georgia. he has to know. he has to be rational. he's a congressman. he's got to know that that's not appropriate behavior. so the only way to explain it is on to the stage. here we go. that he cannot control himself. whoa! the definition of addiction is are you all right? so, look, this is a stage, this when you are powerless to say no to your drug of choice. is where you're going to see and i believe this cyber sex wolf, anderson on the stage. addiction is what he is you can see that. that was a little sneak peek suffering from. >> all right, jane inside the sullivan arena where velez-mitchell is the most of monday night's debate will be held. it's going to be at 8:00 p.m. "issues with jane velez-mitch l and cnn "newsroom" is coming to velez-mitchell" on hln and the you live tonight from author of "addict nation." thank you, jane. manchester, new hampshire. >> thank you. we have to say anthony monday night we'll host the first republican presidential weiner has not said what he's debate right here. going in for, what kind of recently asked a group of treatment he's going to get. students here what they want to hear from the candidates. up next, a significant blow here is what they said. to al qaeda. the terrorist believed to be the mastermind of the u.s. embassy are you guys ready for the bombings in kenya and tanzania debate? >> yes.
>> the most important issue you is killed. want to hear from them? >> unemployment. >> unemployment. what about you? >> keeping the arts in school from we who believe we know just how you feel. programs. >> really? >> yeah. >> and you? >> the troops' future, when haagen-dazs. they're coming home. >> yeah. no one said social issues. social issues not important? >> they are. >> social security. >> why do you say that? >> because we're not going to have it when we get older. we're paying into it but we're not going to get it. >> that concerns you. >> it does. >> tell me why. >> because i want my money. if i'm paying for it, i want it. my future isn't stable. >> anybody else think about social security or anything like that? yes? do you? >> i think rates for gay and i can have a proposal to you within half an hour. marriage, but it's something candidates seem to -- a topic we're a small business. they seem to avoid to avoid with 27 of us always in the field, controversy i think. i think that's a topic that we have to stay connected. deserves attention and i don't we use verizon tablets, smartphones. know, that's how i feel. we're more responsive. >> why do you think that there are no delays. deserves attention? >> just because it affects a lot delays cost money.
with verizon, we do things quicker and more effectively. of americans and it's kind of sad how many states don't allow more small businesses choose verizon wireless gay marriage, and i think that should change. than any other wireless carrier >> are younger people on board because they know the small business with that issue? with the best technology rules. are you less or more conservative when it comes to social issues? most of the candidates are going to be here are very conservative on social issues. >> i think the older you get, older generations, they're more conservative. but our generations and if you look down, like younger people, they're much more liberal. they're becoming more liberal, more open, and many of these social issues to us, they're not really a problem anymore. >> yeah. so you think as we go on here in the future, people will be less concerned about those things and really more concerned about the economy, money, social security? yeah? >> i think that's kind of how new hampshire works. it's never been a really socially conservative state. we have gay marriage. you can get a gay marriage license in new hampshire, and i think you find looking at the primary that the candidates don't come here and talk about
social issues as much as if they're in iowa or south carolina. >> all right. mark preston is back. he's our senior political editor here and so let's talk about the debate. all eyes i would imagine going to be on newt gingrich with his staffers resigning last week on thursday. >> yeah. so, look, there are going to be seven candidates on stage. we're all going to be looking to see what happens to newt gingrich. will he show us that he can regroup and continue moving forward? he's put out statements, he's talked about how he's campaign will move forward even though he's lost every one of his senior staffers, even though his we're back now live from new key staffers in the early states hampshire where we're going to have all left him. hold a debate on monday night. newt gingrich says he's going to that's why we're live from here. move on. >> who benefits most? there are a lot of stories going is it rick perry? on around the world and i want everyone talks about rick perry, to bring in susan hendricks at texas swagger. the cnn world headquarters in does he benefit the most? >> for anybody in the race or atlanta. she'll bring you up to date. not in the race. >> let's get you caught up on the headlines now. >> rick perry not in the race. here is what we're following. a 13-year manhunt is over for if he decides to run for the alleged al qaeda mastermind president expect the staffers to of two u.s. embassy bombings in
move over and run his campaign. >> on to everyone else who is going to be here. africa. fa dual abdullah mohammed is what do they have to prove? believed to be the architect of what do they have to do on the 1998 bombings of the monday night to get people to take them seriously and to, you american embassies in kenya and tanzania. kenyan and u.s. officials say he know, become -- everybody wants to be the front-runner. was gunned down at a sow molsom >> everybody wants to be the front-runner so let's just pick them apart. herman cain, michele bachmann, rick santorum. this is their opportunity to go on the national stage, introduce check point. the first blast went off in themselves to republican voters en masse. the bathroom of a restaurant. as rescue workers responded to not just social conservatives. that explosion, a suicide bomber ron paul has to show he's ron paul continuing to talk to the detonated another bomb. idea na he wants troops pulled there's been no claim of responsibility yet. out of iraq. talk about long-term debt an insect expert testified problems. today in the trail of casey mitt romney has to prove that he anthony, the florida mother can get out unscathed, that he accused of murdering her doesn't take all these arrows we 2-year-old daughter caylee. casey anthony heard him say that expect are going to be shot at flies indicated something had him because he's the front-runn been decomposing in the trunk of front-runner. her car for as longs a five days of tim paw lelenty has to go ou they said. the defense is saying flies could have been caused by and prove he is better than mitt leftover food. that is the defense. romn romney. prosecutors have been trying to >> i don't know if you can hear the screaming behind us, we are show that casey anthony killed on a college campus. her daughter, caylee, and stored >> and the rain. her body in the trunk. >> everybody has been now back to don in new
tremendous. monday night, of course, that's hampshire. where it's going to happen right don? here on cnn. >> susan, you guys on hln have seven republicans will appear on been doing a great job of stage right here in manchester. covering this story. can you believe all the ins and outs of this casey anthony it will mark the first political story? >> it is fascinating and so many debate of the 2012 presidential race. the event will be moderated by cnn's john king. people have been following this >> up next, yes comedians are because they can't believe that known to say some pretty a young woman, if you believe outlandish things on stage, but to say you'd stab your own son the prosecution, could do this to her own flesh and blood. for being gay? >> susan, we'll see new a little how far is too far? bit. thank you so much. we're talking about phrasy tonight and tomorrow we're morgan homophobic rant. going to show you what happened to a little boy who got enrolled i'm going to ask a comedian who in a government funded study has worked with tracy morgan aimed at making e femme nant what he thinks. boys more miss casculine. research done on this boy is still being cited. in the 1970s the little boy was membership rewards points from american express. treated at the gender identity clinic. his real name was concealed. they're a social currency. his treatment was called a with endless possibilities. success but now more than 30 years later we finally know what really happened to him.
his name is kirk murphy and for the first time on television, his family is sharing his story, their story with us. they're doing it because they want you to know who kirk really [ technician ] are you busy? management just sent over these new technical manuals. was. they want you to know what he they need you to translate them into portuguese. went through, and they want you by tomorrow. to know what impact they say it had on the rest of his life. [ male announcer ] ducati knows it's better for xerox here is anderson cooper. to manage their global publications. >> this is my brother, kirk so they can focus on building amazing bikes. andrew murphy. this is what he was supposed to with xerox, you're ready for real business. be. >> this is the last time mark murphy remembers his brother, kirk, as a happy child. the photo was taken when kirk was 4, a year before he was placed in an experimental therapy at ucla to treat what doctors identified as exaggerated feminine behavior. >> it left kirk just totally stricken with the belief that he was broken, that he was different from everybody else. >> reporter: kirk's sister maris and brother mark say chiskirk w
the world needs more energy. never the same after therapy. where's it going to come from? >> they destroyed him. he was empty,ing in there. ♪ that's why right here, in australia, >> reporter: in 1970 kirk murphy chevron is building was a smart, outgoing 5-year-old one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. growing up near los angeles. enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. his mother, k.t. murphy, what's it going to do to the planet? however, was worried about him. >> well, i was becoming a little natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. we've got to be smart about this. concerned about playing with the it's a smart way to go. girls' toys and stroking the ♪ hair, the long hair and stuff. i was seeing feminine mannerisms that bothered me because i wanted kirk to grow up and have a normal life. >> mrs. murphy says she saw a psychologist on a local tv program talking about behavior like kirk's. >> he was naming all these things, if your son is doing five of these ten things, does he prefer to pay with girls' toys instead of boy's toys? >> caller: the psychology was recruiting young boys for a government funded program at ucla, part of which was designed
to reverse perceived feminine behavior. what one doctor called sissy boy syndro syndrome. >> him being the expert i thought, well, maybe i should take kirk in. in other words, nip it in the i was still trying to bud. >> reporter: for nearly a year process everything and decide if kirk was treated at ucla namely there was going to be a punch by a man named george reikers. line somewhere or exactly what he has been a prominent proponent of the belief ho homosexuality can be prevented. to treat kirk's so-called sissy behavior he was placed in a room with two tables. he was observed through a one-way window. he was begin toys to play with and could choose between traditionally masculine ones or feminine ones. he could also choose clothing to wear, an army hat and military fatigues or a girl's dress,
jewelry, and a wig. kirk's mother would be brought into the room and told to ignore him when he played with feminine toys or clothes and compliment him when he played with masculine ones. in a xcase study he wrote, geore noted when kirk's mother would ignore him, he would beg for attention from her but mrs. murphy was told to continue to ignore him. >> and in this particular incident, they write that he becomes so upset. he's just beside himself that they actually had to remove him from the room and after they remove him from the room, they come in and tell my mom that it's working and then they bring him back in and start all over. >> having read this report, i keep coming back to the work experimenting. >> absolutely. >> because -- >> without a doubt. >> it doesn't seem like -- this is not some proven treatment. this is experimenting. >> no. >> reporter: experimental therapy even continued outside ucla in kirk's home.
his parents. told to use poker chips as a system of reward and punishment to make kirk act more masculine. do you remember these chips? >> yes, i do. oh, yes, i do. >> were you awarded them as well? >> yes, i was. my parents added me to it so they could reinforce to my brother that big brother is doing it, too, so everything is okay. >> these are the actual chips. >> those are the actual chips. >> blue chips were for masculine behavior? >> yes. >> and the red chips were penalty for feminine behavior. >> yes. >> so if kirk played with one of your dolls, he would get a red chip? >> yes. >> according to george's case study, the red chips resulted in physical punishment by spanking from the father. >> and coming up after the break, the memory of those being still causes a lot of anguish to kirk murphy's brother.
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experimental program to make him more masculine. kirk's brother and sister say their brother was never the same. can he continue with anderson cooper's special report. >> reporter: do you remember the beatings? >> oh, yes, sir, i do. many times did i move the stacks around. >> what do you mean? >> i took some of the red chips and put them on my side. i did see the beatings and it was just like, you know -- >> you would take kirk's red chips, the things he had been given for feminine behavior, you would take them yourself. >> we would come home from school and that was the first thing you did when you walked through the door. what was the chip count today. what happened? what changed? how bad is it going to be. it was always bad. >> i do remember one time he spanked him so hard that he had welts up and down his back and on his buttocks, and i remember mark saying cry harder and he
won't hit so hard. today it would be abuse. >> according to kirk's brother and sister, his outgoing personality changed and he began to behave in the way he knew his parents and george wanted him to. his family says the impact of the experimental therapy lasted his entire life. >> he had no idea how to relate to people. it's like somebody just walked up and turned his lights off and we got what we wanted and we'll see you later. >> he actually ate his lunch in the boy's bathroom for three years where he didn't have to. put himself out there even just to have a friend. >> in his case study, george called kirk craig to protect his identity. he considered his work with kirk a success writing craig's feminine behavior was gone and claiming kirk became indistinguishable from any other boy. in numerous other published
reports and studies over his nearly three decade career since, he has continued to write positively about kirk's treatment using it as proof homosexuality can be prevented. kirk's family has only recently discovered the writings and they're outraged. they say kirk was gay but because of the treatment he was subjected to as a child struggled with his attraction to men his whole life. >> he acknowledged himself as a gay man in 1985 on. he never had a committed loving relationship because he wouldn't allow himself to. >> unable or unwilling to have a committed relationship with a man, kirk focused on his work and chose a career where being openly gay wasn't even possible. he spent eight years in the u.s. air force and then held a high profile position with an american finance company in india. >> kirk, what do you think of your nephew? >> thp visit home in june of
2003 was the last time kirk's family saw him alive. nearly six months later, he took his own life, hanging himself from a fan in his apartment in new delhi. kirk murphy was 38 years old. >> i used to spend so much time thinking why would he kill himself at the age of 38? doesn't make any sense to me. what i now think is i don't know how he made it that long. >> make sure you tune in tune in tomorrow. dr. george reichers responds to the family's allegation that his therapy led to kirk's suicide. until cnn told him of the suicide he said he did not the little boy he has often cited as a success ended up taking his own life. that's tomorrow night. coming up next, my
conversation with a paralyzed baseball player just drafted by the texas rangers. what he said when i asked him if he thinks he'll ever play or walk again. but first, every day millions of children around the world pick through piles of trash hoping to find enough scraps to sell to buy food for their families. these kids can spend their entire lives scavenging unless they can manage somehow to get an education. and that's where this week's cnn hero, alaina miranda steps in. >> currenly in argentina there are a lot of children working. most children work recovering waste from the garbage dump to sell for a small profit. they can be very small children, 3, 4, 5 years old. all parents want a better life for their children than what they had, but there are times when the whole family has to work and try to make ends meet.
my name is elena duron miranda. i founded an organization to help the boys and girls get out so they no longer have to work there to survive. when i arrived in argentina, it hit hard to see so many small children picking through garbage. many have dropped out of school. i decided that i had to do something for them. we tried to be as fully integrated as possible. there's a school tracking group of psychologists and a social worker. we work with the family on the value of putting them in school. >> any time we get a child that goes to school, it's a seed we are planting. >> you hope not to see the child on the street again. if he returns, we go after him. >> education is how we start to break vicious cycles to give children a better future.
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jonathan taylor was one of the most promising baseball players for the university of georgia until march when a collision with a teammate on the field broke his neck and left him paralyzed. you might think that that would end his dreams of reaching the major leagues, but you'd be wrong. this week the texas rangers picked jonathan in the 33rd round of the tradraft. jonathan joined me earlier along with the scout who lobbied for him. i asked jonathan what this gesture means to him in tonight's "what matters." >> it's a real pleasure to be drafted by a major league team after all i have been through. i'm just very shocked. the first day the coach called me, i was like -- i didn't believe him for a minute but when he told me that -- and then my trainer told me, too, i was
like i can't believe i got drafted after all i have been through. >> so, jonathan, since this is the first time you're seeing ryan since your injury, what do you want to say to him? >> i want to say, thank you a lot. it's a real pleasure to be drafted by the texas rangers. it's one of my favorite teams. i played with them on the video games and it's just a real pleasure and i thank the texas rangers organization for what they have done for me so far. >> how did you find out the rangers drafted you and did it come as a surprise to you? >> i was -- it was around 12:00, i was eating lunch with my mom and the coach called me, missed the first call and then i was wondering why is he calling me? i called him back 15 minutes late irand he's like congratulations j.t., you got drafted by the texas rangers. i was like for real? he's like, yeah, congratulations, man. i was like okay, appreciate it.
>> the teammate you collided with, zach cone, was also drafted by the rangers. have you spoken to him? >> on wednesday i got drafted, he came over later on that night and he's just like what's up, baby? it's like we're on the same team once again. man, this is awesome. so, you know, him just coming up that day unexpectedly really put a -- it was really special to me. >> you know, ryan, you have watched jonathan since his high school days. what did you see in him then and what do you see in him now? >> first of all, i want to say this young man deserved to be drafted, injury or no injury. he was a great baseball player. he's a fun guy to watch. table setter type guy who could really run and play defense and just happy to be able to be the one that drafted him because this young man, injury or no injury, he deserves to be drafted and he was a great player. >> hey, does this mean that jonathan is going to have sop
kind of role within the rangers organization? >> i sure hope so. i think there's a lot of discussions right now as to what exactly we're going to be able to do or not do. can't really comment at this time because we don't really know exactly what his role is going to be but we want him to be a part of our organization and he can be nothing but an asset to the texas rangers organization. >> so jonathan, i have to ask you this, you're in physical rehab now. you think you'll ever be able to play baseball again because doctors do say you can regain your ability to walk. >> yes. i believe i can get back on the baseball field. all i have to do is keep working hard every day, 9:00 to 5:00, keep getting stronger every day, continue to make progress and just ignore all the negative criticism that some people might say about me not being able to walk, but all you got to do is be able to fight and work hard and trust in god and i think i will get out there again. >> and up next, the hour's top
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back to atlanta for the top stories of this hour and cnn's susan hendricks. susan? >> here is what we're following. congressman anthony wooen seine seeking professional treatment. nancy pelosi is one of three top democrat leaders of his own party who now wants him gone. this week the married congressman admitted to graphic online communications with women after initially denying it. a 13-year manhunt is over for the alleged al qaeda mastermind of two u.s. embassy bombings in africa. mohammed is believed to have been the architect of the 1998 bombings in kenya and tanzania. officials say he was gunned down at a somali check point. the wallow fire has burned an area the size of houston, some 430,000 acres.
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