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good to see you. maybe see you this weekend? >> well, i'll be here. >> yeah. i might not be. >> that's what i hear. >> all right. >> you know. this is like the weekend but then it's not going to be like this weekend. >> glad we got our moment at least. thank you. i will see you here soon. thanks so much. today, folks, one of those days that you'll be looking back and remember where you were and what you were doing when you saw this -- t-10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 -- all three engines up and burning -- 2, 1, zero, and liftoff! the final liftoff of "atlantis" on the shoulders of the space shuttle america will continue the dream. >> continue the dream but going to have to do it aboard another vessel. yes, weather was a bit iffy today. but when launch time came, just about 90 minutes ago, sky were
fair. crowds were huge. emotions sky high, a sentimental journey into history as nasa was calling it. it got off to a pretty good start, as you see there, but there was a tiny hiccup that stopped the countdown clock at 31 seconds. pft after that it was all good. "atlantis'" eight-minute orbit and pursuit of the space station drop off supplies and come back to earth 12 days from now, that will be july 20th, 42nd anniversary of man's first steps on the moon since the first shuttle took off in april 981. five orbiters have thrown 135 missions, 359 crew members, final mission as four crew members. the shuttle fleet traveled more than half a billion miles and that number grows as we speak. let's go now to the kennedy space center, our guy, john
zarrella and meteorologist chad myers there as well. clad to keep an eye on the sky. we'll check in with chad here in a second. john to you, you have been to a number of these launches, you've seen these up close and personal. how did this feel different? >> first, i think i've traveled 5 billion million miles up and back from south florida to the kennedy space center over the last 25 years or so. it was certainly different. there's no question about it, t.j. when you've seen, you know, as many as i have they're all unique, all special, but then when you realize that in all of those other times that i've seen them, i've known there's another one coming down the road, and now you know that's it. there will not be any more launches of space shuttles from the kennedy space center and that, you know, is one of those things that sit there's and kind of, you know, sits in pit of your stomach. you were mentioning, 31 seconds,
they actually stopped the countdown because there was a concern, a sensor failed, they weren't sure that a vent arm retracted. they got a visual look at it and able to go ahead and pick up the count again. but right before lift-off, before they lifted off, there was an exchange between the launch director and christopher ferguson, the commander. here's what chris ferguson before launch about the special day. >> shuttle's always going to be a reflection of what a great nation can do when it dares to be bold and commits to follow through. we're not ending the journey, we're completing a chapter of a journey that will never end, you and thousands men and women who gave their hearts, souls and lives for the exploration of history. one more time, mike, witness this great nation at its best, krut of "atlantis" is ready for launch. >> reporter: until today, there was not really any question that the united states was in the
space business with the shuttles iconic flying machine that is it now there's real questions down the road as to the united states' future in space. you have nasa insists it's going to continue forward going outward but money, budgets, the national will, it's an interesting ride for the next five to ten years to see where nasa is now that the space shuttle is retiring. t.j.? >> john, tell us, as well, you said that hiccup at 31 seconds during the countdown, but after that, it's all good? >> reporter: yeah, all good. it was smooth. and i'm sure the mission management team in this briefing will discuss that hiccup and then they'll be sitting there. i am sure they will be grinning ear to ear that they got this vehicle off the ground on time with the four crew members on the way to the international space station. a rendezvous on sunday morning, delivering thousands of pounds
of supplies and nen they're going to be taking back some stuff when they come back to earth, stuff that's no longer needed up on the space station. so you know, still 12 long days ahead. a lot of work for the crew on board "atlantis" before they make, you know, a return here. you know what's interesting, t.j.? when they come back here, nasa's planning, at this point, once ferguson calls, wheels stop, shuttle lands on the runway, they safe the vehicle, they're going to allow thousands of space workers here, who are here, to go out there and touch the vehicle, to be right out there on the runway, you know, to say good-bye one last time to the iconic flying machine. >> john, you say there with me. let me bring in chad myers keeping a close eye on the weather for us. we were told 30% chance the that the weather would allow. did we get a lucky break right around launch time or did things change during the day for the weather? >> no, we got pretty lucky
around launch time. right now we would be back in condition red. red all morning until 10:30, greened up for a brief moment, and then some clouds rolled back in, and they were concerned about the reland. if it had to be the emergency landing they didn't have enough clearance, didn't have enough ceiling for this thing to land on the runway that's here at cape carve ral. beautiful skies, way high. we lost the shuttle after 30 seconds worth of flight we lost it but this is what we have over here. take a look at this. here's the sky that we're looking at. with that sky, we would be red again because you can't fly through cumulus clouds. that's because you can't get water in those tiles or in cracks between those tiles because all of a sudden if you fly through rain or if you through through a cumulus cloud that has water you wet down the
shuttle. a second later the shuttle is 70 degrees below zero and don't want the water to freeze in between the tiles. you know what happens to potholes in minnesota when it's freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw. you don't want potholes in your shuttle. back to what we would be red. we literally had a condition green for 40 minutes that window was big enough and right in time for the shuttle to take off today. >> chad, same kind of rules apply, weather standards for the landing that's coming in 12 days? >> a little bit even -- i would say a little bit more conditional on the rain factor because it's a bigger circle. right now all we had to do was shoot this thing straight up. when we land this thing it has to be very dry. you can't have showers around it. think of a dry day in florida in the summertime. you have to go up edwards, one time to white sands but you cannot fly the shuttle because it's screaming hot.
thousands of degrees, you can't bly that through a rain shower. the criteria more tense, harder to get through to land this thing back here at kennedy, but they have a big time -- they're going to have a big-time party when this thing finally does come back here. >> chad myers, appreciate that breakdown. good to see you, as always. thanks to our john zarrella. eight minutes past the hour. sound effect is the u.s. labor market sputtering to a virtual standstill. as you know by now, the economy added just 18,000 jobs last month. that is far, far fewer than expected and a lot fewer than neededer to a meaningful job recovery. the jobless rate ticked up as well from 9.1% to 9.2%. the president spoke on the numbers today. take a listen. >> our economy, as a whole, just isn't producing nearly enough jobs for everybody who is
looking. we've always known that we'd have ups and downs on our way back from this recession. over the past few months the economy's experiences some tough headwinds from natural disasters to spikes in gas prices to state and local budget cuts have that cost tens of thousands of cops and firefighters and teachers they're jobs. the problems in greece and in europe, along with uncertainty over whether the debt limit here in the united states will be raised have also made businesses hesitant to invest more aggressively. >> you hear the president mention the debt limit there. as you know, he's searching for a grand bargain with republicans in congress to slash future deficits while raising the amount of u.s. can borrow. if not raises by august 2nd, the u.s. risks a first-ever default on some of its obligations. as for unemployment, the bloomberg poll from last month shows 38% of americans approve of the president's efforts to create jobs. almost 6 in 10 disapprove.
other stories we're keeping a close eye on now. alabama, civil rights groups filed a lawsuit today challenging the new immigration law. the law, which is seen as the toughest in the nation, signed by governor bentley last month and is set to take effect september 1st. the lawsuit claims alabama's law would subject residents to criminal penalties for innocent daily activities ump such as giving a ride to a neighbor, hiring a day laborer or renting a room to a friend. alabama joins georgia, arizona, utah, indiana in defending their tough immigration laws in federal court. u.s. house of representatives cutting back on some of its summer vacation while it, get this, works. going to be working on budget deficit, debt limit matters. the house is cancelling a recess planned for the week of july 18th. house speaker boehner says lawmakers will work on a proposed balanced budget amendment. he's urging passage of that bill. a scene that might look familiar to you.
egypt's tahrir square, tens of thousands of protesters gathered to pressure the interim government to put reforms in place right now. the new demonstrations come five months after mass protests led to the ouster of president mubarak. one of the founding members of that movement says protesters will remain in the square until demands for faster reform are met. live to cairo at the bottom of the hour. also, a texas ranger's baseball fan died last night after falling over a railing trying to catch a ball. the fan was not immediately identified. he fell about 20 feet head-first after reaching out for a ball that was thrown into the stands by star outfielder josh hamilton. that fan died after being rushed to the hospital. a high-level arrest is made and britain's phone hacking scandal. that scandal of course targeted the murder victims, terrorism victims and grieving families of troops killed at war.
>> police today arrested a former editor of "news of the world," that's the british tabloid accused of hacking into people's voice mail accounts and bribing police. the newspaper is owned by media magnate rupert murdoch who owns fox news and "wall street journal." senior international correspondent, dan rivers, joins me live from london. the former editor we're talking about is not just a former editor, also a former aide to the british prime minister. >> reporter: yeah, it's difficult to imagine this getting more serious and bigger in terms of the tentacles that
seems to go into politics, journalism, into commerce as well as significant kind of economic aspects to this story because advertisers are pulling out from advertising with news international, the parent company. this newspaper, "news of the world," is closing down. they're putting together the last edition right now. and as you say, political angle because this guy used to be the communications guru for the current prime minister, david cameron. he's been arrested andy colson, voluntarily attended a police station this morning to be questioned. we don't know what will happen next, if he will be released on bail or if he will be formally charged. but certainly this isn't over yet. we're expecting there could be more arrests over the weekend. >> dan, also, you say it's hard to imagine getting bigger but do we know, we understand happened over the past decade, just how many people were targeted. we know individual cases but do we have any idea how many people, how many phones were
hacked into? >> reporter: well, the police say just for the "news of the world" investigation, from the files that they've recovered, maybe as many as 4,000 people might have had their phones hacked into. and that's just one paper. if you start thinking about, and well, how many papers are here in britain, we've got a lot here for this country, probably ten national newspapers. you start to get an idea of just how big this could be. pretty much every major news story that you can think of over the last ten years seems to have had some possibility of someone having their phone hacked into, be it terrorist attacks, in 2005 or the families of fallen soldiers in afghanistan, celebrities, royal family, murder victims, the list just goes on and on, it's and just kind of breathtaking some of the things that are alleged to have gone on. >> dan rivers for us today in london. appreciate you as always, thanks so much. the royal newlyweds are
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prince william and list new bride are wrapping up the ka that ian tour with a stop in calgary. they helped kick off the calgary stampede parade, one of the largest in the world and it is billed by the organizers as, quote, an exciting ten days of good old fashioned western fun. cnn's max foster joins me now live in l.a. hello to you, max. good to see you again. help us understand the big parade a little better.
>> reporter: yeah, they're going to arrive here in l.a. later on. but still in canada. they attended that parade earlier on today, a celebration, you'd say, of western culture. and they walked the route ahead of the parade. hundreds of thousands of people turning out again in canada, popular wherever they go dresses up cowboy hats, him as a cowboy, her as a cowgirl and a great success. the canadian prime minister described this as a love-in, not seen since the beatles first visit all of these years ago. canada a big highlight, a big tour, and william's pleased with how things have gone there. we'll see if that sort of kate mania as they're calling it translates to the u.s. when they come here later. >> what is the plan for l.a.? >> reporter: well, this is their first stop and it's the beverly hilton, as you can see, preparations under way. car's going to come in over there and then go into the hotel behind me.
it's a new media event, it's about promoting british new media companies to americans. it's all about promoting british interests this trip. after they've taken part in the conference here, they're going to head up to the uk console general's residence where they're staying here and there's a reception there. you might see a few famous faces, everyone desperate of course to see the couple next to celebrities. we'll see what happens later on. we haven't got a guest list yet. >> they're used to press and press has been following them around but you're in l.a. now. you've got pop rpaparazzi to del with. any plans made to keep the paparazzi under control? >> reporter: a situation where the police have said, if there's any private land around any rve knews and the paparazzi goes on to the land they'll be arrested immediately. they've reached deals with residents where they're staying about arrests, quick arrests if the residents aren't happy. big message to the paparazzi,
get accredited, be approved at these events or you're in trouble. >> we'll be checking in with you when they get to l.a. 21 past the hour. a look at stories that are making headlines. right now. the woman who led the fdic through one of the worst financial shocks in history is bowing ow. shei sheila bair's tenure ends today. and for pushing banks to modify home loans for troubled borrowers. a mexican national on threat row has been executed. he was convicted of rape after a last-minute decision to deny him a stay of execution by the court. he was put to death. the united nations released a statement today condemning the action say, quote, the u.s. is in breach of international law. also, former florida congressman mark foley set to
undergo cancer surgery in orlando today. in an interview, he said a routine exam five weeks ago revealed he had prostate cancer. foley sad the prostate would need to be removed and expects to be back on his feet within a few days. he resigned, remember, from the us 2006, after sexually explicit text messages to congressional pages were made public. today marks six months since the shootings in tucson, arizona, that killed six and injured 13, including congresswoman gabrielle giffords. give fofffords shot in the head captured the nation on her road to recovery. her husband mark kelley posted a message on facebook marking the day saying, thank you for the continued support from arizona and the nation. your daily messages of hope and encouragement inspire us. >> they were witnessing history. the shuttle heading into space
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the launch of the space shuttle "atlantis," the journey shaped by triumph and tragedy, defined by decades of innovation, exploration and discovery. >> main engine start. we have engine start. 30 years ago, thousands gathered at kennedy space center to watch "columbia," the first shuttle, launch into history. >> two, one, zero and lift-off, the final lift-off of lths on the shoulders of the space shuttle. america will continue the dream.
>> today, it's estimated almost a million people came to witness the end with "atlantis." carol costello was there for the launch with the crowds. carol, you help us, did it feel -- it's empty there now, people have cleared out but did it feel like a million people were there earlier today? >> reporter: t.j., it did feel like a million people were here. it was amazing. . i'll tell you what million people are doing now, they're driving. take a look at route 528. that's everybody returning from cape canaveral back to their hotels, back to their airports to go home for the day. but i am tell you, t.j., just to be here, and this alongside of the road, 528, look that way, you can see the water and clear over there in the distance, that was where the space shuttle took off from. the very moment it did, actually we have video to show you of the very moment it took off, people were chanting" usa, usa"
cheering. it brought a tear to your eye. look. >> and lift-off! >> usa! >> look at it! >> reporter: t.j., you had to admit that was pretty darn cool and emotional. two people are left on this little slice of beach off of 528, that would be nate and john. you guys actually camped out overnight to see this thing. was it worth it? >> definitely. definitely worth it. the rain and the wind last night was kind of difficult, but it was definitely worth it this morning after seeing it go up. >> reporter: when you saw the flames shooting out of the rocket, what went through your mind? >> amazing. i was standing on the car screaming and yelling, overtaken with emotion. >> reporter: nate, when people started chanting"usa" its
pride. where else can you see things like this? pull up on the side of the road. >> reporter: the last shuttle launch, the last shuttle that you'll ever see probably in your lifetime taking off it's kind of what, bitter sweet, sad what go through yor mind? >> i'm grateful to have experienced it. and you know, i have a sense of hope that it won't be the last. we've made a deal that next time man launch goes up, which could be in the future, we'll be here for it. >> reporter: in a continue, in the rain, sleeping overnight? >> maybe plan it further ahead in advance. >> reporter: thank you for waiting around. bree appreciate it. there you have it. a beautiful, bitter sweet moment for this area. think of titusville, which is 15 miles up the road near cape canaveral where a lot of nasa employees work, 15,000 people will be laid off because this is the last shuttle launch. so the ploemt for people who live here who work here bitter
sweet. they made a lot of money today because of the shuttle launch but this is the last time. >> they will come up with the next big thing down there for folks in florida. carol costello, appreciate that. >> reporter: you heard nate and john, they will. >> they'll be there. glad a couple guys stuck around as well. good to see you as always. to our viewers as we come up on the bottom the hour here, jaycee dugard speak out about her time in captivity. you will hear what she has to say next.
now. alabama, civil rights groups have filed a lawsuit today challenging the new immigration law. the law, which is seen as toughest in the nation, signed by governor bentley last month and is set to take effect september 1st. the lawsuit claims alabama's law would subject residents to criminal penalties for innocent daily activities such as giving a ride to a neighbor, hiring a day labor or renting a room to a friend. alabama joins georgia, arizona, utah, indiana in depending their tough immigration laws in federal court. the house of representatives july recess has been canceled in light of the recent debate on the debt ceiling. house majority liter eric cantor informed the gop conference the house will be in session july 18th. democratic and republican leaders are at odds on the debt ceiling. both sides used the job numbers to further state their cases to the public. now, we have those june jobs numbers. i was mentioning, not too
pretty. according it a government report the economy gained only 18,000 jobs, much, much lower than the economists predicted. june was the weakest month since september. the unemployment rate rose to 9.2%. that british tabloid hacking scandal tied to the top tier of government there. british prime minister david cameron's former press secretary had been arrested in this case. andy colson had been editor of "news of the world" he resigned that position in the wake of allegations that the paper intercepted phone messages of murder and terror victims, politicians and celebrities but denied any knowledge of those activities. cameron is calling for a thorough investigation into the scandal. and a fan at a texas rangers game with his young son died after falling out of the stands head-first about 20 feet down to the ground. he was trying to catch a ball that was tossed his way by star
outfielder josh hamilton. players in the oakland a's bull pen say the man was conscious as carried out on a stretch somewhere asked for someone to check on his son. he died later at the hospital. something like this happened last july at rangers ballpark. another fan fell 30 feet from the second deck trying to catch a foul ball. that fan survives but suffered a fractured skull and sprained ankhal. jaycee dugard held captive by a california couple for 18 years is speaking out publically for the first time. in contact test she gave birth to two children. in an interview with diane sawyer she talks about how she felt when she first saw her newborn daughter. >> she's beautiful. i felt like i wasn't alone anymore.
>> dugard has written a book called "a stolen life," to be released this month. the heavy police press sent, traffic large crowds enough to keep people away from the anthony home after the casey anthony trial, maybe lightning will keep them away. severe storms passed through the orlando area last night into the midst of a lightning bolt struck a tree near a memorial set up for caylee anthony. no injuries reported. this was the same weather system that almost stopped today's shuttle "atlantis" launch. life saving medical advances discovered in the heat of battle. see how doctors have using combat lessons to save patients.
it's only been a couple of weeks since president obama announced plans to start cutting back on the number of u.s. troops in afghanistan, come fall it will be a full decade that the country's been at war. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta look into what the war has taught doctors and patients. >> reporter: you know, last month president obama announced plans to start bringing down the number 0 u.s. troops in afghanistan but still u.s. troops are going to be there for years. come fall it's a full decade we've been at war. there is an aspect of this that's easy to miss, at least until your life is on the line. i'm talking about the impact this war's had on medical care, not just wounded troops but for people here at home. one pretty stark example is the care that saved the life of congresswoman gabrielle giffords. a bullet through the head, the kind of wound you plight see in combat. dr. peter rhy running the plj si room but americans his trade in
iraq with the navy. he says with a wound like giffords had a decade ago doctors would have given up before they even started. >> for most handgun injuries through and through to the head, the chance going into the operating room are exceedingly low. but now that we've gotten experience of penetrating trauma from the iraq experience we're aggressive about getting to the operating room. >> reporter: in iraq and afghanistan we've learned to do as much as possible right way, don't wait until you get to the hospital tent. now they teach that same principle here as well. >> for the congresswoman, the goal of the paramedics in a situation like this is to just get her into the ambulance and here as soon as possible. >> scoop and run. >> reporter: the war has lessons for neurosurgeons, too. what we know is that a through and through bullet injury causes direct damage to the brain, something we can fixing but secondary damage due to swelling you're trying to minimize the risk. so save gabrielle giffords a surgeon cut way part of her
skull to aleve pressure from swelling. it's a hemi craniectomy. >> lift that bone right out of there. >> reporter: the battlefield drives breakthroughs. like quick clot. packing a wound to stop bleeding. it works, fast. surgery directed by remote control. >> we are here controlling this robot in santa barbara, here in texas. you can be here controlling a robot in this hospital or a rot got anywhere in the world? >> anywhere around the world. >> reporter: a whole feel has developed to help a generation of soldiers missing arms and legs. military money helped fund this robotic arm from inventor, dean cayman. you did deserve that. technology can be miraculousing but sometimes it can be as simple as a mirror. nick puporo lost a leg when hi
missile hit his truck in iraq. >> you can feel the rush of the epf going to the vehicle a change of pressure and also smoke. >> reporter: in rehab the pain was unbearable. until doctors tried a new approach. what we're seeing here basically is just using a $20 mirror to basically make it seem like his right limb is still there. that's all it is. what that does, basically, is coordinates, visualizing this what what's known as position of the right leg, coordinates those together is helped. the brain is tricked it sees the leg and shuts off the pain signal. t.j., those are a few ways that these two wars have made an impact on medical care for everyone. i'm going to talk much more about this this weekend with our pentagon correspondent barbara starr, incredible stories to share. back to you. >> thanks, as always, sanjay gupta. egypt's tahrir scaquare the
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rete protesters vow to remain in the square until demands are met. fred pleitgen is live. we have seen protests before, vehicle and violent before in that square but so far, vocal? >> reporter: just focal at this point in time. t.j., tens of thousands who are still in tahrir square, they've been there since early morning hours this morning. one of the things we have to keep in mind, egypt is one of america's most important al allies in the region. the u.s. will be looking closely at what happens here in egypt. the people are unhappy with what the interim government has been doing since hosni mubarak lost power more than five months ago. they say their big concern is that the ways of the old mubarak government are still continuing. they say there is still police corruption, police brutality, general corruption. the economy's going nowhere. and the unemployment rate is
very high. one of the things t.j. keep in mind there's a military council governing the country and a lot of people on the military council were very, very close to hosni mubarak and many people down there right now, they say they were too close to hosni mubarak, they're not doing enough to bring the cronefullies under mubarak's regime to trial. one of the interesting thing that one person who is down there told me, he said the military council think a couple of reforms will appease us, but we want revolution. >> does the crowd down there, a lot of familiar faces, if you will, we know that last time we saw protests a lot of young people were leading the charge there. why you seeing that, once again? >> reporter: yes. absolutely. it's still a lot of young people who are leading the charge. a lot of protests still being organized by a facebook and twitter, group that will are the same. and that's what's giving this momentum, as well as allowing people to organize it as well. yes, it is still essentially a
lot of the same people doing this. it's not quite the numbers you would have seen before. a lot of people here have gone to something that you might call revolution fatigue, where they say they've had enough of demonstrations and want to try to carry on and rebuild. a lot of these people say, now that we're through with this revolution, especially in light of the fact a lot of people were killed in that process in the revolution five months ago we have to see these things through. behave to have all of our demands met and that's why they're all there and vow to stay out there for as lon as it tanks. >> one last thing, fred, any movement on them getting their demands met? is there a representative from the folks who are the thousands down there in tahrir square going and meeting with those members of the government? how are they going about getting their message across, certainly with protests, but going about getting at the table and having chats with the government? >> reporter: that's a very good question, certainly one that a lot of people here are asking, as well. what you'll see before protests
like this one, large protests, are announced, is that the military council that governs the country currently will make some concessions. before the big protest they said, yes, we'll put people part of mubarak's old regime on trial quickly. they try to make little concessions. however, people here say that's not enough, they want more. they want the military council to put through more reforms than that. there are meetings that happen frequently but still people say they're not getting through to the military leadership. they want elections as fast as possible and deep reforms implemented as fast as possible and those a point they feel so far they've not been able to get through in their face-to-face meetings with the people running the country, so now they're take together street once again. >> frederik pleitgen, in cairo, thank you. about 13 minutes at the top of the hour now. a look at some of the stories making headlines. a deadly plane crash in the
democratic republic of congress go. a going 727 tried to land in eastern congo. airline officials tell rights are 53 people are believed dead but the death toll could rise. we will continue to follow this still-breaking story. we'll give you updates as we get them. the italian prime minister berlusconi will not run when his term expires in 2013. he reveals his intentions in an interview with an italian newspaper. fighting corruption charges and on trial on charges of abuse of power and paying for sex with a teenage prostitute. he denies all of those charges. yemen's president is back in the spotlight after severely burned in an attack on his compound last month. saleh appeared on national television in yemen, that's him looking different. speaking from saudi arabia where he's being treated. he said he is on the mend from his injuries and welcomes talks
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the foam sprays from the can and it comes out cold. the air bubbles then expand and are trapped as the foam hardens. and then when you shape and squeeze the foam, the bubbles pop, releasing a burst of cool air. well, that's one thing. now here's this. it's the same cooling, it has the same cooling effect as the blue foam you just saw, but can you hear this? listen. that's just odd. it sounds like pop rocks on the skin, but this cooling thing sprays out a gel that's pretty cold at 48 degrees. the gel then dries up after a couple seconds and apparently doesn't have a sticky feeling. it also has an interesting scent to it. they can you can also use this as a citrus-scented dee owoed r. for more on how to keep cool, you can check out randy cade's
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[ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astra-zeneca may be able to help. this just in to us at cnn, we're confirming that ohio state university is erasing its 2010 football season from the record books. didn't have it. osu's 12-1 season being vacated as if it did not take place. this is a self-imposed
punishment for ncaa violations, big rule violations. those violations led to the ouster of the former football coach, jim trestle, who stepped down earlier this year. osu is also giving up its big 10 and sugar bowl championships and placing themselves on two-year probation. this was all self-imposed right now. time for our political updates with mark preston who joins us from new york. mark, it's been a while. good to see you. >> how you doing? >> doing all right today. are we going to start with this museum, or do you got something else for me first? >> let's start off with a little television, but how do you really erase a bunch of wins? even if they had all those problems, they still won the games, didn't they? >> certainly the one we want to erase, the sugar bowl against
the arkansas razorbacks, so we're not going to go that far. far. >> right now, t.j., a new ad has been submitted by. the crutch of this ad is going to be all around -- shocker -- the economy. we'll see this ad start airing today. it's part of a larger ad campaign, a $20 million ad campaign, t.j. so it just goes to show you we are right in the thicket of things even though we haven't got a republican presidential nominee. speaking of that, there's been a lot of talk that tim pawlenty, former governor, might be a little weak. yesterday he was out in iowa and he took that criticism head on. this is courtesy of radio iowa. at a forum, tim pawlenty is quoted as saying the loudest guy or woman in a bar usually isn't the toughest.
i'm an old hockey player and i've been probably in more fights than all the kennedys combined. even though there is a little criticism that tim pawlenty might not be the most vocal or most combative, he's saying he's very good at a street fight. you were talking about a museum. where perhaps could they build an immigration museum? lawmakers are talking about the national mall. this museum would be the museum of the american people and legislation was offered yesterday for the presidential administration to look into it to see if this is even feasible. i have to tell you, real estate is at a premium on the national mall, t.j., so i have to tell you, there will probably be a lot of pushback because it's very hard to find room down on the mall to put another museum. we'll see what happens on that. >> all right. mark preston for us for our political update. the next update for the political team on television is just an hour away. for you folks out there who are under the age of 30, you
have never known a time when america was not flying space shuttles. in just a couple weeks, you will. we are now about two and a half hours into the 135th and final shuttle mission. you can catch the lift-off live. you know you want to. >> 2, 1, 0 and lift-off, the final lift-off of atlantis on the shoulders of the space shuttle, america will continue the dream. >> the weather was a bit iffy today, but when the time came, the skies were clear and fair enough. emotions were high and the sentimental journey in history got off the ground. right now atlantis is in a roundabout pursuit of the international space station where it will drop off supplies and come back to earth 12 to 13 days from now. the nasa administrators are giving the press an update on this. we are expecting the shuttle to come back and land on the 20th.
that would be the 42nd anniversary of man's first steps on the moon. since the first shuttle took off in april of 1981, 135 missions have flown with 359 crew members. the shuttle fleet has traveled more than half a billion miles, and that number literally is growing as we speak. i want to speak now at kennedy space center with cnn's john za rirks lla as well as chad meyers. you are covering these stories, and you've been covering these stories for a long time, but you can't help but get caught up in the emotion of the day. >> there's no question about it, t.j., this being the last one. i think i said several times, every time before this, i knew there would be another one to come and see. now as the shuttle was clearing the tower, you know, it really hit me that, well, that's it. there won't be any more of these to see, and it's still quite uncertain as to when we will see
another u.s. rocket lifting off from the launch pads behind us here. hopefully sooner rather than later, but that's still to be seen. as you mentioned, the nasa management team is holding a debriefing right now just around the corner from where we are here, and bob cabana, who is the director of the kennedy space center and himself a former astronaut, he talked about how -- and really put it in real terms -- look, you know, we know there is going to be tough times ahead. >> we're going to be going through a tough time. change is hard. and we're going to have more folks walking out the door here in a few weeks, and they were and are performing their job absolutely flawlessly right up to the end. and that says a lot for them. it speaks to that professionalism. change is difficult, but you can't do something else, you can't do something better unless you go through change. >> reporter: you know, and he mentioned the fact that people
are walking out the door, and that's very true. you'll be losing just here at the kennedy space center alone a phase-out of about 7,000 jobs, mostly contractor jobs, united states alliance jobs and others, but 7,000 here. i know over in prom ontory, uta, they've already lost 2,000 workers there where they make the shuttle boost. so this is affecting people all across the united states, t.j., and the sooner the united states gets back into the space business, the better off folks will be. t.j.? >> help me understand. this is the last mission, and we have seen crews, i think roughly six or seven on a crew, only four on this one. you would think they would want to pack as many people on the last one as they could. why only four on this trip? >> here's the reason. because if they had some sort of an accident on the way to the international space station, an
accident that would have allowed them to get there, but say the shuttle was damaged and they couldn't come back on the shuttle, it would take -- it's going to take -- it would take a year, one astronaut every three months, coming back on a spacecraft. and there wouldn't be enough consumables on board the na international space station to sustain seven, plus the four they have on there, and it would take a year to get the crew off. that's why they went with four, because with the number four, there would have been enough consumables on board to sustain everybody until they can get all those shuttle people back home, back to earth on russian soye's rocket. >> they think of everything, don't they? john, we appreciate it. we'll be seeing you again. chad, let me turn to you and this weather situation. they told us only a 30% chance
that the shuttle would take off today, but it took off just fine. so it was just a lucky break in that one moment when they needed that lucky break. >> well, either that or you just think that 30% of the day was going to be good and 70% of the day wasn't going to be good, and we got lucky and got in that 30% hole. the reason we can't fly this thing through the rain is because of the tiles. this is a mock-up that's at the visitors' center, but a real retired shuttle will be here within a couple of years for you to see live and in person. if the tiles get wet, water can get around them and in between them, and in a few seconds after this thing goes through that cloud, it's going to be 70 degrees below zero up in the stratosphere and that water will freeze. we had a cloud deck just like this all morning long. finally about 10:00, we saw some breaks in the clouds, the sun came out. the sun warmed the atmosphere just enough that more breaks came, and the breaks in the thinning clouds went right over
the shuttle launch station right at the exact right time. we had just a small window to get it. so it was condition red. most of the morning it was condition green the right four minutes and it's been red the rest of the afternoon because now showers are coming our way. >> what are they going to have to deal with on the way back? how serious is the weather situation? how critical is the weather for the landing? >> no rain at all within a long -- i mean, hundreds of miles around, because not only when you go up, you just have to go through one small hole. as you come down, you have to fly through the atmosphere. so as you fly through the atmosphere, you're covering a lot more ground. you can't get that 1,000, 2,000-degree tile through wet rain where it's going to crack. that said, you couldn't reuse it. this time we don't have to reuse it. everybody wants them down safely. we got them back down all the other times except for columbia and that was a fluke of the ice
on the orange foam. this one here, they'll go up there, they'll check for that, see if any foam did come off. as they land here in a couple weeks, it will be right back down there and there will be a big celebration on the landing pad here at kennedy. >> all right. chad meyers for us. chad, good to see you as always. thanks so much. it's seven minutes past the hour. now we turn to our sound effects, and today it is the u.s. labor market. have you seen this yet? the numbers are out and they are not pretty. the economy added just 18,000 jobs last month. that is far fewer than what's predicted by those economists out there, and also it's far fewer than needed for a meaningful job recovery. the jobless rate, that unemployment rate, also went up from 9.1 to 9.2%. here now, the president. >> today's job report confirms what most americans already know. we still have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to give people the security and opportunity that they deserve.
we've added more than 2 million new private sector jobs over the past 16 months, but the recession cost us more than 8 million. and that means that we still have a big hole to fill. >> the president now searching for a grand bargain with republicans in congress to slash deficits while raising the nation's debt ceiling. if the ceiling is not raised by august 2nd, the u.s. risks a first ever default on some of its obligations. that's what unemployment, the bloomberg poll from last month shows only 38% of americans approve of the president's efforts to create jobs. about 6 in 10 disapprove. other stories making headlines now in alabama. civil rights groups filed a lawsuit today challenging the state's new immigration law. the law, which is seen as the toughest in the nation, was signed into law next month. it goes into effect august 1st. the law would subject residents
to criminal penalties for things such as giving a ride to a neighbor, hiring a day laborer or renting a room to a friend. a spokesperson just issued this statement saying they have not yet received a copy of the complaint and have no comment at this time, other than to state that under state law, acts of our legislature are presumed to be constitutional. the accomplish tabloid hacking scandal. david cameron's former press secretary has been arrested in this case. andy colson is his name. he's been editor of "news of the world" or former editor. he resigned at the wake. he denied acknowledgment of any of the activity. cameron is now calling for a therefore r
thorough investigation into the scandal. prince william and katherine ended their trip in canada. their next trip is to los angeles. they will spend three days in the u.s. people packed the florida coast to witness history today. the atlantis blasted off one last time. we are taking you to florida next. how is it that we don't act our age? [ marcie ] you keep us young. [ kurt ] we were having too much fun we weren't thinking about a will at that time. we have responsibilities to the kids and ourselves. we're the vargos and we created our wills on legalzoom. finally. [ laughter ] [ shapiro ] we created legalzoom to help you take care of the ones you love. go to legalzoom.com today and complete your will in minutes. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side.
shuttle, america will continue the dream. >> with that, atlantis blasted its way into history and nearly a million people were there to see it. they packed the florida coast watching the end of an era, knowing they may never see a moment like this again. >> i'm glad that i got to be a part of history, the beginning and the end, because of something new that's coming after this. i got to be here with all these people here and wonderful americans to experience that. >> a lot of people were looking for the best way to put this moment into words. just moments before the commander of atlantis maybe said it best. >> it's always going to be a reflection of what a great nation can do when it commits to follow through. we're not ending the journey today, mike, we're completing a journey that will never end. >> let's turn now to cape canavaral, florida. that's where our carol is. she was there watching along with the million.
carol, was it exciting, a little sweet and sentimental and even patriotic? what would you classify it as? >> i would say most of all it was patriotic, because when that shuttle lifted off, t.j., there were chants of usa, usa! we always talk about how the country is not unified, but today, just for a moment, there was unity here because people came to port canavaral, they pulled off the side of the road because route 528 is right here. you can see the traffic. people are still coming back from where they watched the shuttle, but people gathered from all over america. i met people from missouri and tennessee and kentucky and washington state and texas. there were people here from new zealand and australia and everybody was here to share this beautiful experience. when that shuttle blasted off, you could hear the joy emanating from people. listen. >> 2, 1, 0 and lift-off.
>> whoo! whoo hoo! >> and everybody is in their car right now, t.j., but earlier this spot was full of thousands and thousands of people. there were t-shirt vendors. one guy even had a telescope mounted on the back of his pickup truck. people were very excited. but the only people left now are the people watching the dolphins. if you ever get a chance to come to port canavaral, and i know there won't be any more shuttle missions, but i'm telling you, dolphin after dolphin diving out of that water. another amazing sight for me to behold today, so i'm one lucky person. what can i say? >> carol kcostello for us. thank you so much. we're a quarter past the hour. we'll have to turn overseas here in just a moment, and rescuers are working right now. they are trying to find
18 minutes past the hour. a couple stories making headlines right now. in the democratic republic of congo, crews are scrambling to save people in an airplane crash that killed at least 40 people. 14 survivors have been pulled from that plane. the boeing 747 crashed today with more than 100 passengers on board as it was trying to land in bad weather. a texas rangers fan fell 20 feet head first to his death at a game last night. the man was at this game with
his son when he reached over the railing for a ball that was thrown into the stands by star outfielder josh hamilton. the fan was not immediately identified. also as casey anthony waits for her freedom on july 17, four states are already drafting legislation for caylee's law, which would place tougher requirements on people filing missing persons reports. lawmakers reportedly in florida, oklahoma, new york and west virginia are all proposing some form of caylee's law. this comes after an on-line petition for a caylee's law gained momentum with more than 300,000 signatures. the space shuttle's final mission will offer more insight into the world of science. we'll take you to what the astronauts will be doing in space.
nasa made history launching a shuttle into space for the last time, and astronauts on board the final mission will be conducting some important research to examine how cells survive in high altitude environment and to test bone loss in a zero gravity environment. cnn correspondent tells us more about the contribution to science. they've had a lot of contributions to science over the years, though. >> this is not my usual gig. i'm not a space girl, so i was really kind of surprised, it was very interesting all the different ways they've contributed to medical science. >> and another contribution on this last mission as well. exactly what are they doing? >> actually, i'm going to go over the years. i'm going to do a retrospective, okay? >> i caught you there on this one. high altitude environments, bone loss and zero gravity. i'm talking about what they're doing on this one, but even over the years, we may have heard
things that sound complicated but it transmits to things we understand. >> that to me is the important part, the transmission into something. they've looked at how rocket fuel goes through the engine and they said, hey, that might make for a good heart pump, so they did a heart pump based on that that people actually have in their bodies. or, for example, they looked at the orange foam on the external tank. orange, there you go. like i said, not a space girl, but that orange stuff, that foam there, they used that to make a better prosthetic, like prosthetic limbs, prostheses that people wear. they grow plants in space, and they have to use that light that they use to grow plants and they use it on kids with cancer. they're doing this at the university of wisconsin. and here's the last one. this is one of my favorites. on the shuttle, they use infrared sensors to measure the temperature of distant stars. that's how they measure it. so they use that same technology
to measure temperature in your ear. >> and i'm sure a lot of parents would appreciate that, because they're always checking the temperature of their kids' ears. >> much better in the ear than other places on the body. >> do people think there will be a void if we don't have all this research going through the space program that have spawned all this stuff, have we maybe missed things over the years? >> you could make the argument we're not going to do as much of it so we're not maybe going to have this list like we have here. but they are still doing experiments that could lead to medical advances in the international space station. the difference is that the u.s. astronauts will sort of be going in the russian spacecraft to get there. but they're still doing them. maybe not on this scale, but they're still doing them. >> but they will continue. all right. our new space girl here. john zarrella, he needs some help, don't you think? >> i'm sure he's nervous.
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we're getting close to the bottom of the hour here on cnn. here are some of the stories you may have missed. ohio state university erasing its 2010 football season from the record books. it was a 12-1 season. well, that whole season is being vacated now as if it never happened. this is all part of self-imposed punishment for big-time violations of ncaa rules, violations committed by the school's former head football coach, jim trestle. osu is also giving up its big 10
and sugar bowl championships and placing their team on two years probation. alabama filed a lawsuit challenging the new immigration law. it was signed by governor bentley last month, said to take effect august 1st. this law claims that they would subject residents to penalties for daily activities such as giving a ride to a neighbor, hiring a day laborer or giving a ride to a friend. we now join them in defending their tough immigration law in federal court. the president is reacting to today's less than stellar job numbers. the economy only added 18,000 jobs last month. that is far fewer than expected. the >>judge ros jobless rate went u 9.2%. >> we've added 2 million jobs
over the last eight months. but the recession cost us 8 million. that means we still have a big hole to fill. >> they are urging congress to work out a debt ceiling plan so more budget talks can begin. the house majority leader, eric canter, reported that the house will be in session the week of july 18. democratic and republican leaders are still at odds on a debt ceiling deal. both sides used today's job numbers to further state their cases to the public. also italian prime minister berlusconi has announced he will not seek another term. he made statements to a daily newspaper in additi newspaper. in addition to declining ratings, he is fighting abuse of power. the royal newlyweds, prince william and his wife katherine, they are just wrapping up their tour of canada with a parade and a trip to the rodeo. it explains the hats there. the next stop is los angeles. the couple will spend three days
in the u.s. with a focus on spreading british social media to a u.s. audience. police have already cents out warnings to paparazzi who want to get close to the royal couple. get licensed or get arrested, your call. jaycee dugard, the young woman held captive by a california couple for 18 years is now speaking out for the first time. while in captivity, she gave birth to two children. in an interview with abc's diane sawyer, she talks about how she felt when she first saw her newborn daughter. >> beautiful. i felt like i wasn't alone anymore. >> dugard has also written a book about her ordeal. it's called "a stolen life," said to be released this month. a high-level arrest in britain's phone hacking scandal. the details for you as we go globe trekking, next.
end the years in history, showing their anger at the british tabloids "the news of the world" as they prepared the paper's final edition. it started with clyde goodman who was jailed in 2007 for hacking into prince william's phone. now it's believed the paper was awash with illegal eavesdropping and bribing policemen. the practice in "the news of the world" and the building behind me have been widely condemned by political parties. but the focus on this story has now shifted onto the prime minister, david cameron, and his decision to hire a former editor of "news of the world" andy colson, as his news guru. a decision that came back to haunt him with a vengeance. >> somebody would have been sent to prison. this editor had resigned. he said he didn't know what was happening on his watch, and he resigned when he found out, and
i thought it was right to give that individual a second chance. >> almost at the same time the prime minister was speaking, andy colson himself was at a police station answering questions about whether he sanctioned illegal phone hacking during his tenure at the paper, a scandal which forced him to stand down first as a journalist and then as a press adviser, even though he's denied knowing anything about hacking. britain's opposition says repairing the damage means the government has a lot to do, like -- >> apologizing for bringing him into the center of the government machine. and coming clean about what conversations he had with andy colson before and after he was appointed about phone hacking. >> but it's not just the p.m.'s relationship with colson, it's about his relationship with rebecca brooks, both close to cameron. but rebecca brooks hasn't been arrested yet, claiming she knew
nothing about phone hacking. she said andy colson's offer to resign on thursday should have been accepted but she's still in place. that's because rupert murdoch remains committed to her. as the saying goes, a week is a long time in politics, and these past seven days have seen some tectonic shifts in press power with many wondering if murdoch's power over british politics is now on the way. tens of thousands of protestors gathered to pressure the interim government to put reforms in place and do it now. the new demonstration came five months after it led to the oust of their president.
the u.s. coast guard is still searching for seven americans who went missing when their fishing boat capsized off the coast of mexico. one american was killed and more than a dozen others were rescued. our senior affiliate talked to one survivor. >> the back end of the boat was under water when i came out of my door. i looked back, i would say we were probably about 25 feet that the boat was under water on my side, and it was leaning further and further to port. >> now, the coast guard says it's already searched 1400 square miles of ocean and land. as you may know by now, a historic day for u.s. space flight atlantis. it blasted off today on the nation's final smutthuttle miss. we'll get reflections from an astronaut. first she went searching for
her missing daughters swept away by a tsunami in 2004. she was shattered when she learned her daughters were gone, but she went to work helping other families and she is this week's cnn hero. >> my father called me and told me something bad had happened. my daughters went to thailand for a vacation with my ex-husband. it was hard to get good information in sweden. we decided to go to thailand ourselves and look for them. when i realized i wouldn't bring them back home alive, i wanted to die. but the thai people that had suffered so much more, i felt a connection to them and i wanted to give something back. my name is susanne janson. i moved to thailand because i wanted to help poor thai children make the most of their
lives. we discovered an orphanage to provide children with the homes they need. love is the first thing they need. they can then get schooling and education. we want to be as close to a normal family as possible. of course, we are a very big family. when something is good, we are happy together. if something bad happens, we cry together. that's the most important thing working with children. not so much from the head but the heart. my daughters loved their life, and i wanted to show them that i would survive it, and if i could help my new children to love their lives, at least one good thing came out of it. -having her is amazing. -we made a miracle.
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you have seen probably by now the story. unfortunately, a man, a fan at a texas rangers game last night died when he fell from the stands. he went down head first some 20 feet as he was trying to reach for a baseball that one of the players just tossed into the crowd so the fans could have. it was one of these foul balls. it was out of play and oftentimes they'll just toss them up and let the fans have them. he was reaching for it and fell over. he went down 20 feet. he was actually conscious, players say, as he was looefrg -- leaving on the stretcher but then died when he got to the hospital. they released a statement at the rangers. all of us here at major league baseball are saddenned at the death of the this fan. we give our condolences to the entire family. our players are encouraged to be fan friendly and we will carefully review this incident with our clubs to continue to ensure a safe environment for our fans. they mentioned the son in the statement there. the son was right there with him
and watched his dad go over the railing there. some of the ball players report that even the man was asking about his son, saying someone check on my son as he was being taken out. but an unfortunate incident last night. major league baseball alluding to possibly looking at changing not necessarily a policy but of having the players toss the balls up into the stands, because oftentimes foul balls, any time the balls go into the stands, fans oftentimes go after them pretty aggressively. we have seen incidents and accidents before, people being injured, but a death here, and it's certainly unfortunate. but the latest there from major league baseball. we're getting close to 42 minutes past the hour. giving you a live picture of canada. actually, calgary, alberta. this is where the royal newlyweds have been in canada for the past nine days now. they're going to make their way to los angeles for a three-day visit after this. this is kind of a going away ceremony. they have certainly been a hit there in canada with the folks.
some folks doing some protests against the monarchy, but still, for the most part, you have seen them welcomed in a big way. one of the latest ceremonies they had. they went to a rodeo, put on the cowboy hats and did the whole thing. looked like cowboy and cowgirl, the royal cowboy and cowgirl there for a while. we're keeping an eye on this ceremony. they're coming to the u.s. for their first trip as a royal couple. they're going to l.a. for a few days so we'll watch it. college a big waste of time and money? i wish they would have had this conversation with me about 10-plus years ago. we're going to take on this question. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is larry...
college costs. four years of college, pretty expensive. according to collegeboard.org, you can expect to pay anywhere from 30,000 to over $100,000 in tuition and fees over four years. your costs would vary according to whether you attended a public or private school, of course, and whether you stayed in your home state or not. that doesn't include books, supplies, a place to live at all. now, when you look at the forbes 400 list of the richest people in america, the list is littered with high profile college dropouts. folks like bill gates, mike o'dell, mike zuckerberg, steve jobs. with that in mind, an interesting argument is being made across the country. some are saying it may be better just to opt out of college and
its bills altogether. so that is the question for today's team. for some people, is college a waste of money? let me bring in pedro lugar a, he's a professor of education at nyu. i'm guessing where he might come down in this argument. let me bring in roma alley, ought or of "why you may not get the education you paid for." in a o naomi, did i waste my money going to college? >> not necessarily. if you think about what people want from college, it's kind of a happhazard set of things. basically the way administrators sort of suggest, it's an adventure. choose anything from this catalog. we've moved away from core requirements and curriculum, so
the problem is colleges can't really justify what it is they're doing with your time. >> professor, let me bring you in. would you ever go -- i'm sure you talked to young students, high school students, middle school students who are thinking about going to college. have you ever walked into a group of kids and said, maybe some of you shouldn't go to college. just not for you? >> well, i would. some are not ready for college. some are not academically prepared or emotionally prepared for college. at the same time, i would also say this, that the data is very clear. people with a college degree earn substantially more money on average than people without a college degree, and we shouldn't be fooled by a few exceptions there. so a college degree generally is worth it. the question is, how much debt should you take on and how serious are you when you plan to take it? it used to be a lot of 18-year-olds would go to college to grow up. that's simply a luxury a lot
can't afford and their parents certainly can't afford. >> we know the unemployment rate went up to 9.2%, but if we look at this, 4.4% is the unemployment rate for people with bachelor's degrees, it's 8.4% with people who have some college. it goes up to 10% if you just have a high school education, 14.3% if you have less than that high school diploma. so naomi, let me bring you back in here. is it just a matter of some people -- and he was right. the professor there saying, don't be fooled by that small list of people who have made it big. but for the most part, do we need to balance the cost of the college to see if it's really worth it? because we know a lot of people are out there with a degree and unemployed, still. >> right. i don't advise people not to go to college, if that's the question. but i do think that if we are going to go to college, we need to be wise consumers.
so the first thing i tell people is when they're going to visit college, they should think not just about the piece of paper they get at the end but also about the education that goes on in those four years. go sit in on a class. don't visit college in the middle of summer. ask yourself in that class, can i learn in a classroom of 600 people? who is in the front of the class teaching me? is it someone who cares about teaching or just someone doing obscure research? in my opinion, we need to do more proactive consumers and not just assume that the piece of paper we get at the end is the whole thing. what are we doing with those four years of our lives? >> professor, i'll let you wrap this up for me. do we need to balance how much we pay for college? people want to go to prestigious universities that cost a lot of money. sometimes do you need to look into that and say, hey, maybe you don't need to go to the big school or the ivy league school. you can get a good education and not end up with all that debt and maybe it's the school down the street in your hometown? >> absolutely. i think when you look at this large debt that students are
taking on and how long it takes them to pay off, then i really do think it makes you think about what schools we're going to, is it worth it and at what cost? i also think it's important to think about what you're going to study when you go to college and how likely are you going to get a job. it used to be we could study whatever you have a passion for. that might be nice, but maybe you have a double major, and make sure you do something practical where you know there will be a job in the future. because we have a lot of people out there still today with college degrees who can't find jobs that are paying them a decent salary and they're frustrated because of it. >> thank you again, and also naomi schaefer riley. i wish i had had you guys on my speed dial a few years ago. i could have used you. you all enjoy your weekend. thanks so much. as we get close to the hop of the hour, we're going to turn to the historic day of the space
shuttle. the space shuttle launched shortly before noon today in the final day of the space shuttle program. let me bring former astronaut dr. bernard harris. he knows what it's like on launch day and he's the first african-american to take a stroll in space. good to have you here today. tell me the truth. did you shed a tear today? >> just a very small one. >> oh, come on, you boo-hooed today, didn't you? >> not quite. but it was wonderful to see that they did get into space. >> you said it's wonderful to see, but everybody is using the word bittersweet. is that the right word to describe it, or are you kind of sad to see it go, or are you happy to see nasa moving on? >> i think everybody is right, i think it's both. i'm sad to see it go because that was the vehicle, the system that got me on two space missions traveling over 2.7 million miles and now we're coming to the end of that program.
but it also marks a new beginning for nasa and where it's heading in the future. >> do we have a danger here, though, dr. harris, in that people know of nasa and we're not sure what nasa astronauts do on a day-to-day basis. there are thousands of people down there working in florida, but day to day, we don't know. people know this day, and they can turn on the tv and get excited about this event. do we have a danger now that people lose that enthusiasm for nasa or space travel because they don't have these things they can see and get excited about? >> well, i think there always is that challenge that's going to occur, because now we're going to have this gap between our ability as a country to send human beings into space. but still, we'll be sending in upwards of five to six americans every year going forward, and i'm talking about this new beginning. there is going to be an opportunity for more innovation, more technology development,
more companies involved in how we do that. and i think that's going to generate a different level of interest. >> now, before the american people, how long will it take? you're talking about that other interest there, but again, everyone gets excited about launch day. how long before we have something else like this, whether that's another vehicle taking off in the u.s. or any of these other innovations you're talking about? how long do we have to wait before we get that spark again? >> you know, i think that you're going to see several sparks along the way. already this week there is an announcement by lockheed martin of a new vehicle. i think as you see more and more of these companies develop their vehicles, they're going to be putting out press releases about the different milestones that they are accomplishing, and i think that's going to breed a different kind of excitement in the american people. in terms of a mission to the moon or a mission to mars which generate the excitement, say, that the appollo program did, it will be a few years before that
happens. >> all right. dr. renard david, it's been exciting to talk to you today. i appreciate you composing yourself after boo-hooing like you did earlier, but it's good to talk to you as always. have a good weekend, all right? >> all right. our political ticker is coming your way next. stay here. my doctor told me calcium is best absorbed in small continuous amounts. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal.
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me now with our political update. paul, go. >> t.j., hey, listen, you've been talking the last couple hours about that unemployment level up to 9.2%. the big question is who is to blame? check out this poll in the "new york times" and you may find this surprising. more people blame the pre-administration, the bush administration, and then the present obama administration. blaming wall street only 8%, saying the obama administration is responsible for the current economic conditions. but t.j., let's be honest. come next year, next november when the president is up for reelection, this will be his economy pretty much by then. the buck stops at the white house. rick perry, the texas governor, is he going to run for the presidential nomination? he said he will decide maybe by next month, but there is a group out there called americans for rick perry. it's an independent group where they've raised $400,000. they're going to spend that mon in -- money in iowa to try to
convince rick perry to run. >> the best political team on television is just an hour away. for the xyz of today, you know the mba and the ncaa are both on lockouts right now. both couldn't reach a decision. now a financial catastrophe is looming if democrats or republicans don't reach a deal on the debt ceiling before deadline. what in the world is going on with us right now? we can't compromise anymore, it seems. at least we can't compromise until we take ourselves to the brink of disaster. compromise for a lot of people these days seems to be a dirty word. in the case of the ncaa ors the mba, if they don't reach a deal, our lives will go on. not compromising on the debt ceiling, though, and a lot of americans will be affected. not