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but i'm not an expert on that. >> well, it will be a fascinating year, t. boone pickens, thank you very much. >> sure. thank you. that's all for us tonight. here's anderson cooper with ac 360. it is 10:00 p.m. on the east coast. we're in mogadishu, perhaps an incubator for the next act of islamic terror headed to the west. the warriors, the terrorist group al shah bob have just pulled out. the united nations world food program which provides the majority of the aide to somalia
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and kenya, they say they only have three weeks left or less. three weeks of food supplies, much more on that tonight. we're going to talk to a lot of folks about the situation on the ground here in somalia. reporters who have been covering it for us for weeks. we begin with breaking news out of washington. harry reid becoming the first member named to the super committee, they are patty murray of washington state, max baucus montana and john kerry massachusetts. this comes at the end of the day that saw wall street climbing out of the smoking hole. part of the reason squabbling over the debt. the question tonight, will this super committee end the squabbling or will they create a whole new problem. john king is sticking around for us tonight. also with us, david gergen.
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john what are you hearing about the names given to the super committee. >> we won't know the full composition, therefore the chemistry of this committee until we get the other picks in the coming days. max baucus, liberals don't like this pick, he's known as someone who's prepared to talk about cutting medicare, entitlement reform. john kerry lobbied for this spot, he's the chairman of the foreign relations committee, but he wants to have a sweeping domestic achievement. he wants to raise his stature if you will in the senate. the controversial pick tonight is senator murray, she's a trusted lieutenant to harry reid in the democratic leadership, she has a tough dual assignment now. she's also the chair woman of the democratic senatorial campaign committee. she raises money for senate
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candidates in the 2012 election year. she's going to be raising money for democrats who are attacking republicans for cutting medicare. she's going to be talking seriously and open mindedly about cutting social security. that is the one that's drawing some fire tonight. >> david, we still haven't heard any names on the republican side, what do you make of the three names we've heard tonight. will there be more finger pointing blaming as we've seen over the last several days, or do you think these three people will look at compromise will look at all options on the table? >> anderson all the indications are there could be a stalemate. the democrats are supportive of senator reid's choices, they think they're good experienced legislators who have been willing to be bipartisans in the
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past. there's happiness on the democratic side, but on the republican side, there's a view that these three are very political, that she is -- not only will she be out there raising money, but her number one job is to protect democrats who are up for re-election. there are 23 up for re-election next year. she's running that operation. and as co chair of this committee, she's very close to harry reid, she's going to be trying to protect that. republicans are saying, we think these people are way too political. and we're going to put some people in there that will not raise revenues. these people are not going to have deep cuts on the entitlements. that suggests hard fights ahead. >> gloria, it does sound like tough fights ahead. >> yeah. and i just got an e-mail, the democratic senate committee chair they're running against medicare reform.
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certainly republicans don't think this is a great appointment. one name i've heard on the republican side from a lot of republicans in the senate that keeps coming up is senator rob portman of ohio who is a former head of the office of management and budget. lots of people think including democrats he would be a good balance on this committee, because he knows how to reach across the aisle. and could work well with somebody like kerry or max baucus or even patty murray. one reason she's there also is to protect the liberal flank so that liberals can say, okay, she's going to look out for our interests on this committee. that may not bode well for a result, but i think that's one of the reasons she's there. >> john, certainly, if both sides are going into this with
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thoughts of just how to protect their flanks, that doesn't really bode well at all. when do we anticipate hearing more names on the committee? >> you know, leader mcconnell and the senate republican side has been home in kentucky this week. he said he will appoint serious people. it needs to be done within about a week and a half now. they had two weeks from the president signing the legislation. that will get the speaker's picks, will get representative pelosi's picks on the other side of the house. we know they're going to have politicians, the question is, for example, no one from the gang of six so far in the senate. harry reid deciding to overpass the democrats on the gang of six. they're deliberately looking for people who are viewed as loyal to the leadership. the question is are all the politics involved, about senator murray, the medicare issue, will they come together? will what has happened in recent days, the debt downgrade, the demands from the market, you have a bigger more credible deficit reduction package, will
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that provide enough moral impetus to overcome the very significant political divides on this committee? that remains a giant question mark, even as we have the first three picks. >> it certainly does, john, david, gloria, thank you very much. a lot happening, not only here in somalia, but also in england. we've seen more rioting tonight. when we come back, a group known as al shabaab, what they are doing to somalia, and the threat some of them may pose to the united states, somalia, the rest of the world. the threat for kids facing starvation, facing famine in the south and even here in mogadishu. we are closely following the troubling news out of great britain. a fourth night of looting and fires.
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more on the breaking news. you heard us tell you that the top supplier of food aid will be out of food in just a few weeks given the supplies they have and the current donations in the pipeline. that means the famine here could deepen and more kids could die. tens of thousands. one is too many. none of it had to happen. that's the frustrating thing. none of it is preordained. the famine is caused by one of the worst famines in 60 years, it's a catastrophe because of a group of islamic extremists called el shabaab, which means the youth. they've kicked them out. they're not allowing kids to be vaccinated, inoculated. we're seeing kids dying of measles which is preventable. take a look at this video. a beheading of a christian convert. the video was posted online as a warning to others. here in mogadishu el shabaab has
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been battling against soldiers, part of the contingent of peacekeepers sent here since 2007. showing terror, some at the hands of the somali americans they've come here to kill. this building close to where we were was blown up. just a couple months ago, a somali american was shot and killed before he could trigger his suicide vest at an african union check point. you can see the detonator on his jacket. had he reached that, dozens more would have died. there may be dozens more out there. a young man disappear in the united states trying to train
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for attacks or future jihad back in the united states or elsewhere in africa and europe. as for now, el shabaab has expelled foreign aid workers in the south, refusing to let them work, claiming they're spies. they claim the vaccines are part of a western plot to kill somalian children. on friday, they redrew from the capital. today i was with ugandan peacekeepers as they entered the city's central marketplace. a place they've fought and failed to reach for years now. the battle for the market has been one of the most intense here in the last few years and with el shabaab's sudden departure, the battle for now seems to have changed. take a look. african union peacekeepers arrived in a convoy of vehicles.
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el shabaab commanders may have pulled out, but the lieutenant colonel is not taking any chances. he doesn't want to stay long. >> you've seen snipers. >> just this week. >> this week? >> in this building. so even though they left, there's still some sort of a presence in the city. snipers and others in among the community? >> hiding within the community. >> shell casings littered the streets, signs of the fierce fighting that's taking place for control of the market. >> why is this so important of al shabaab, this market? >> because it has all the businesses, all the money. >> they extorted people here. that's how they get their inning? >> they've stolen money. they've had a big deal. >> why do you think they left? >> they left because they couldn't stand and fight. we're purring them to the wall and they thought they had to
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save their lives and go away. >> do you worry they're going to come back, though? >> well, i don't think they'll come to mogadishu again. we need more troops. the area is too large. but if you don't get troops, they're going to be gone, no doubt. >> even if they don't come back in force, they can come back with suicide bombers? >> yeah, we've seen more visible fronts. more kidnappings and assassinations. >> that's what you think is the future here? >> absolutely. >> the african union peacekeepers say they control 90% of mogadishu but they rarely go on foot patrol. and they're stretched very thing. el shabaab may be gone, but they haven't been defeated. they still control large parts of southern somalia. they say they're going to return to the city. they say they were just making a tactical retreat. peacekeepers are confident. they say there's no way to get back in the city.
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you talk to residents and they're not so sure. there's only about 9,000 african union peacekeepers, there's no way they can occupy the entire city and protect the entire city if al shabaab returns. for more than a year the peacekeepers have been asking for 11,000 additional troops, as well as air and sea support. but so far, no additional resources. >> you think there's an opportunity for the international community to rebuild mogadishu now, to move quickly to solidify the gain? >> the time is now or never. the world has the ability today to destroy them in somalia. if that is not done now, then the al shabaab will come back. >> so there's an opportunity right now. time is short? >> absolutely. >> after 30 minutes in the market, the peacekeepers decide
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it's time to leave. they want to return to the relative safety of their base. night is coming, despite the gains of the last few days, mogadishu is a very dangerous place. i'm joined now by cnn security analyst peter bergen and also a correspondent who spent time here the last couple weeks. >> yeah. >> before we talk al shabaab, you were talking about the world food supply. they say they're running out of food? >> less than a month. >> less than a month of food supplies. >> talking about a huge shortfall. and people who aren't delivering on their pledges. >> historical situation compounded with the situation of al shabaab that's the best news that occurred here, al shabaab leaving here on friday. you were in a firefight with al
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shabaab just last week. you're in a fire fight. you were caught in the middle of african peacekeepers and al shabaab? what was that like? what were they like as fighters? >> wouldn't say they're incredible competent. their strength comes from the fact that they hold territory. they have a presence here. and so that brings in foreign fighters from other territories like they used to come from iraq, afghanistan. and it's that training that's helped them. >> and there's now great divisions within al shabaab and that may be behind why they left? >> a huge issue over allowing in foreign aid groups and the way it's really eroded the grassroots support. there are actually some al shabaab leaders who say it doesn't matter if this aid is coming in from christian countries, our people are dying. others are saying we will never accept crusader aid. they're fighting among themselves and splitting the resources that are coming in to them. >> interesting, peter.
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it's almost the same mistake in error that al qaeda in iraq made, that once they're in power, people begin to see how extreme they are and how unpleasant it is to live under them. >> yeah, it seems to be encoded in the dna of these jihadist militant groups, that when they actually control population and control territory, they impose taliban like policies on the population, and that leads to the down fall. >> in terms of what they were doing to people, they have a strict interpretation of sharia law. they were beheading people, public education, torture, stonings. they're draconian to say the least. >> it went beyond draconian. some of it was insane. they have triangular pastries. >> they're everywhere. >> this was on al shabaab ban list. this is half of the crucifix. these people don't have food. what little food they're going to scrounge up.
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we're going to get involve in how you run your kitchens now. >> a number of americans, not all somali nationals but a number of americans have joined al shabaab and become suicide fighters here. >> the first american suicide attacker in history is -- anderson, was somebody who killed himself in somalia and i think, anderson, in terms of the threat for the united states or europe, because of the very high death rates these fighters have in somalia, i don't see it as being a big threat. but you can see shabaab is attacking in uganda. they tried to kill a danish cartoonist in denmark in the last year or so. they showed some ability to do those operations and quite an ability to attract the americans and the europeans to come and fight in somalia. >> in terms of dangers, even if they don't come back en masse into this city which they could do despite the bravado of some
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of the peacekeepers here saying there's no way that could happen, they could come back in in big numbers in terms of suicide attacks. there was a suicide bombing in the location where we were at just a few hundred feet away from where we were standing last year. >> yes, absolutely. that is a huge concern, that they will disrupt any attempt to bring about normality to people's lives. >> are they going to come back? >> they'll give it a good go. they have a lot of support in the regions. >> they're in control of the south. >> what people forget is there's nothing for these young men. the only thing an entire generation, 21 years without a government that people in somalia know is anarchy. they have a sense that the world has forgotten about them many this is the only way to remind the world of their existence, this is the only option for them. >> extraordinary situation. appreciate your reporting. talk to you again tomorrow night. peter bergen, thank you as well. when we come back, the
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medical crisis, the largest refugee camp in the south. dr. sanjay gupta reports on the race to save the lives of kids there. and super model iman who was born here in somalia, in mogadishu. she's an ambassador to save the children. >> to hear about the population of orphans and the children, millions of them dying is beyond heart breaking, and especially as a mother. ends against occasil constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health.
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four people living in here, a mom and three kids. it's a very small face, maybe five and a half to six feet in diameter, and all they have is in this small space. a cooking pot, a spooning a few bowls, a jug that holds water that they got from the unhcr. they have some -- a few plates. a pile of clothes and mats to try to keep the dirt out. it's not much. but this family feels lucky to be here, they arrives about a month ago and they're still waiting to find a more permanent settlement inside the camp. so many somalis are on the move, all across this country. 100,000 have arrived here in mogadishu. more are on the border with kenya, where we were yesterday.
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the world food program is a crucial lifeline. breaking news, the funding and food may run out in three weeks or less. these kids don't have time to spare. many are on the verge of death right now. tens of thousands have already died. here's what sanjay gupta found in kenya today. >> reporter: in the middle of the famine, the sickest of the sick come here. like ahmed. he's 6 years old and just spent ten days walking under the east africa sun. his tiny body robbed of nutrition for too long. his doctor can only hope he arrived in time. >> what happens to a child like this if you weren't here, if he wasn't at this facility? >> this child, probably in a few weeks or so, we will lose this child.
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>> when the doctor talks about death by starvation, i can tell you it's neither quick nor painless. when you come to a place like this, you see it, just about everywhere. you can hear it sometimes as well. you can also smell it, it's in the air. this acrid sweetness. the body is literally starting to digest itself. little kids stop growing, they become stunted in time. and the tools to save him are basic. it's not like they have much choice, but they do work. >> i want to show you something else that is very important here. this is what doctors use to try to determine if a kid needs acute medical care. you can tell if the kid is malnourished by using this. this little girl is eight months ago. you put it about 10 centimeters down from her shoulder. if the number comes back below 11, that means the kid is in real trouble.
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in ian's case, the number is 9.5. that's part of the reason she's getting these feedings through an ng tube. ahmed was 10.5. one in five kids will not survive with a reading that low. it's grim duty. the only doctor caring for these children. >> i have three kids. you have a 5-year-old, how do you do it? how do you see these kids here that are suffering so much? >> it's difficult, especially the suffering. what keeps you go is that you have to come back and do something great for them, for them to survive. >> ahmed was one of the estimated 600,000 kids on the brink of death by starvation. but today that may have changed. he may have been saved.
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he made it here just in time. >> sanjay and david mackenzie join me now. 600,000 kids on the brink of death by starvation. it's hard to wrap your mind around. this kind of thing doesn't make headlines any more. that should be a headline in every paper around the world. 600,000 kids on the brink of starvation. what i learned from that piece, it's an extraordinary brutal way for children to die. >> when you talk about someone starving to death, you're literally talking about them using various fuel sources within the body, the liver, the fatty tissue, when that's exhausted, the muscle, protein from the muscle. it's a sheer wasting away. it's hard to talk about, it is brutal, and that's what this doctor and several other doctors
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are trying to combat now. they've been trying to do this for a long time, anderson. >> and david, right before as we came in, we showed me kind of giving a tour of a hut. that's a hut on the outskirts of the camp. there's such a backlog of such large numbers of refugees who come to the camp where you are right now, they can't even fit in the camp. they're living on the outskirts. they don't have running water or latrines built. so there's the fear that even if you arrive at the camp and you're alive and not malnourished, you could succumb to diseases like cholera and other things? >> that's right. the basic elements here -- the major point, people don't have enough to eat, they're wasting away. there's also things like shelter and water and sanitation.
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things that can spark disease in these camps. now, the nhcr is trying to push people out of these extended areas of the camps and move them to tented cities. we were in an area where 15,000 people have been moved in the last week. they've been brought out of the outskirts, anderson, getting registered at the tents and moving over to the camps. these camps are not great places that have the water and the help. but they will be getting it soon. there's a place where the hospital, the school, it has everything. the government didn't want the refugees to move in there. now people are moving into these camps and it's pretty desperate. >> and this place is sitting empty. >> it's empty. >> yeah. >> sanjay, we talked -- that's amazing they have this camp that cost $20 million to build it sits empty because the government won't let people move in there. we focus a lot on the kids who
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are battling for their lives and who often succumb. but the children who survive long-term effects. what there long-term effects of prolonged drought, food shortages, malnutrition, and the on the kids who survive? >> that's a great question. because i think obviously and for good reason, there's a lot of focus on the acute needs here. trying to get kids fed appropriately. you don't want to just give large high-calorie meals. you've got to do it right. give fluids judiciously. there's a lot of new studies anderson, i was looking at that show, kids who go through a chronic deprivation of food can have long term effects on the brain. the brains shrink and most alarming about than study and i think a rallying cry not to let it happen in the first place is that brain shrinkage doesn't seem to get better after the food is reintroduced. this is something that kids live for a long time, with that effect on the brain and that can
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last their entire lives. the consequences of that are still not clear, not completely known, just think about that. this period of their life is so important for their brain development, they're just not getting the nutrients and the food they need. >> we're looking at an entire new generation of kids here whose lives will be forever changed in many cases. appreciate your reporting, we'll talk to you again tomorrow morning. still ahead, my interview with supermodel iman. breaking news in london, 16,000 police officers are on the streets trying to put an end to the violent riots, now it's not just in london, it's in manchester. we have details from a reporter on the ground. this is not a pre. this is kate. [ kate ] can't believe i have high blood pressure. what's that thing? another medication. ♪ i really should have taken my shoes off before i got weighed. [ female announcer ] you've got a lot on your mind.
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there's so much happening tonight. we turn to the breaking news in great britain. take a look at this, aerials of some of the destruction we have seen, this is london. it looks like london during the second world war, it is not. these burned out homes, these firebomb buildings are london today, after three days of rioting, the sit at the is quieter tonight, we should point that out. the violence seems to be spreading north to manchester. which is britain's second largest city. a store set on fire in the center of town. another building torched outside in a suburb. reports of a police station set ablaze in nottingham. london has taken the worst of it, there's no doubt about that.
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it began on saturday after the shooting death of a 29-year-old black man last week. rampaging mobs, mostly young with no clear agenda beyond venting their anger ensuing chaos. these pictures live from a london suburb of croydon. the woman trapped inside by the fire with only one way out, she jumped. the building went up in flames. those that didn't burn were vandalized, looted, those doing the looting also went after reporters and camera crews, the bbc reporting a crew confronted tonight outside of manchester, late last night in london, it was cnn's dan rivers, watch. >> they decided, right, we're going to hold that line mind us. we have to move. they've been throwing -- if you can still hear me, max, we're having a few bottles thrown at us.
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we're okay. that is the danger. as soon as people stray down this road, it erupts in violence. >> and when the violence stops, some people fell victim or are victimized yet again. i want to show you a moment that was posted on youtube of a beating victim and the people who were pretending to help him. watch this. >> they're actually helping him. oh, my god. they're going through his bag. oh! he just took something from his bag. >> just sickening. as we said, london is quieter
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tonight. that's the good news. they put 10,000 more police on the streets today. the police have been a lot more aggressive on the streets. vacations have been cancelled many a big soccer match called off to free up officers. hundreds of people have been arrested. the jails are filling up. britain's prime minister returning back from vacation, calling on parliament, promising to get tough. >> these are sickening scenes, scenes of people looting, vandalizing, thieving, robbing. scenes of people attacking police officers and even attacking fire crews as they're trying to put out fires. this is criminality pure and simple and it has to be confronted and defeated. >> itn's steven douglas is in manchester tonight. i spoke to him just moments before air time. steven, what's the latest in manchester? >> the riots going on in the uk
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for the last few days are well and truly spread outside of the capital now. the manchester police say this is the worst kind of violence like this they've seen in more than 30 years. let's take you through what we've witnessed tonight. this started on the outskirts of the city. looting. the policemen came in after that. running battles happened between the police and large groups of youth who then proceeded to force the police back, smashed their way into shops, set shops on fire. we're talking about big shops here, big department stores. they've not been spread into the center of manchester, a lot of these youth are brought together using social networking sites or just talking to each other on the street. they came into the center of manchester and started attacking big department stores there, and having running battles with the police there. what has to be said, what stands
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out is this particular message. it was rising violence for the sake of trying to -- trying to loot, trying to steal. and it appears that just trying to attack the police. >> so you're saying at one point, police were kind of pushed back. are they in control right now in manchester? >> i would say they're in control now. but it's taken them about seven hours to get there. at one point where i was -- they just abandoned the area, and it can only really be described as lawless. there were fires everywhere, people going into shops. taking things as they wanted, not being stopped. and really it took quite some time for the police to get it under control. >> had manchester bolstered the numbers of police? all day we heard how they were going to be bolstering the number of police? >> this is an interesting point.
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because greater manchester police is thought to have actually lent police officers to london to prepare for potential riots in london tonight. clearly there are questions tonight directed toward greater manchester police being -- the scene could have been predicted that violence might stir up here. one of biggest forces in the country outside of london weaken its force. why weren't they prepared for what's been happening to be honest in a lot of places across the country. >> we'll see what happens tomorrow there, steven douglas of itn. thank you very much. back to anderson in a moment, first a 360 news and business bulletin, a major rebound for u.s. stocks. the dow added 430 points up 4%. the nasdaq and s&p 500 also up sharply. the rallies came after the federal reserve said it plans to
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keep interest rates exceptionally low until at least 2013 due to the weak economy. dover air force base, president obama met two military planes carrying the remains of 30 service members killed when their helicopter was shot down in afghanistan. 22 were navy sales. a texas jury sentenced warren jeffs to life in prison plus 20 years for sexually assaulting two young girls. he claimed they were his spiritual wives. jeffs will serve at least 45 years behind bars before he's eligible for release. a 360 follow, ocean swell, shoulder pain and asthma led diana to end her quest to become the first woman to swim from havana, cuba to key west, florida.
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more on our breaking news tonight, the primary relief agency feeding the people of somalia, world food program, they're running out of food and money. the wfp says they're going to run into trouble in about three weeks. let's look at the basic costs to feed hungry kids and adults. peanuts and milk powder. amazing source of food. they can bring kids back from the brink of death. $1 per day per person. the high-energy biscuits, 12 cents per packet. one woman who is concerned about what's happening in somalia is also angry. supermodel iman. in an article published sunday, iman called for governments around the world to give money for relief organizations before this wipes out the somalis. iman is our big 360 interview tonight. you were born in somalia, what is it like for you to see the
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images and know what's happening there? >> it's heartbreaking, for more ways than one. the recent one is, i was in 1992 in somalia, i made a bbc documentary on that famine. so far me to hear about this famine so early, it is heartbreaking. really heartbreaking, and the images are even more disturbing than the last one. because i don't want to belittle it, but they said the last one, 250,000 people died. when we have already overexceeded that. and my fear is about the children. we hear 1 million children are at stake in losing their lives. >> the other thing that's so frustrating and angering is that this was preventable. it wasn't as if this was a complete surprise. people have been talking about a
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drought for many, many months. about the possibility of famine, about the possibility of malnutrition crisis. and yet it's not until we start to see the pictures that people really start to mobilize and donate money. >> i want people to understand how this works. because in 1992, when i was there for the last famine serve, all the ngos on the ground were talking consistently about how there should be warning signs, safety nets, be put in place so this doesn't happen again. so when i hear about the warn signs of the drought were predicted in november last year. the warning signs did not bring really urgent actions. >> and rains will not be coming for several more months. they say this is the worst drought in 60 years, on top of it, the areas where famine has been declared in the south are
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basically no go areas. foreign aid workers fled from those areas long ago because of al shabaab kicking them out, saying foreign aid workers were spies, trying to kill somali children by trying to do vaccinations. there's many things that have compounded this. but to know that people saw this coming and yet weren't able to mobilize world attention. and i guess the media plays a role in all of that. what do you want people to know now? what do you want people to think about as they mar about somalia, and they hear about what is happening here? >> what i would like to see is the united nations, the international community, the arab world to step up and really start thinking about the food -- the need of food, because that is the urgency of it now. also what i would like people to know and want the international community to really think about, is that the long term -- i want
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the communities to be able to be able to feed themselves. i want people to be able to help local communities so they become self-sufficient so there's not this food aid on a constant basis. but also, more importantly, as you said, regardless of the conflict and regardless of the political issue happening in somalia. what's happening for effect, for effect, that it is a humanitarian catastrophe. and this famine will be remembered as a famine that has destroyed generations of children. we have -- i think we are in a place now that we can turn it around. nobody knows this more than you, anderson, because you are right there on the ground. is that there is a generation of children that will be wiped out. and what i want people to understand, this is a catastrophe that was preventable. but it is not not salvageable.
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>> thank you for coming on tonight. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> you can see my entire interview with iman on our website, that's where you can also find information about how you can help people suffering in this famine if you'd like to. we'll be right back. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. if you have painful, swollen joints, i've been in your shoes. one day i'm on p of the world...
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al shabaab has been battling for control of the country for years. they still control the south. that presents an opportunity for the peacekeepers here to finally change the future of this country. i was here in 1992 at the last famine. about 100 people were dying every day from malnutrition and fighting. here's some of what i saw back then. this is one of the hardest hit cities by war and starvation. there is no law, there is no order. power comes from a gun. the problem is, everyone in baidoa has a gun. that was me 20 years ago, in some ways, the situation is the same as it was then.
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