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>> okay. you have to appreciate there's a small club of presidents and former presidents. boy, president obama has gone at president bush's record. i'm sure president bush not terribly fond, but that was all in good spirit. >> it was all in good spirit. i've got to tell you, you don't hear much from george w. anymore and he does have a great shtick. >> it was good to see him back at the white house. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront next, mayor bloomberg hates your big gulp. why the mayor of new york city, though, is taking on some of the biggest and most powerful and deep pocketed companies in america. and new details about the man responsible for the zombie-like attack. the last thing he said to his girlfriend before he left for the gruesome face-eating assault. plus, the guy who did this comes outfront. >> i'm sick of it! every year we give power to one person!
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i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, saving us from ourselves. a superhero saving america, just like clark kent, the original 1950 superman. >> faster than a speeding bullet. more powerful than a locomotive. able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. >> look, up in the sky, it's a bird. >> it's a plane. >> it's super bloomberg. he came to new york city with powers and abilities far more than mortal men. super bloomberg has banned smoking in bars and parks. forced restaurants to stop using transfats as his bare hands and he is really fighting for america's health, saying you can't buy a big gulp. it's a shot heard from coast to coast, the mayor planning to ban
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the sale of all sugary drinks sold in containers larger than 16 ounces. including energy drinks and presweetened iced teas. former president bill clinton weighed in. >> i know a lot of people think this is an anti-state and he is interfering, but these are very serious problems. and there are a lot of things in our diet that not only make us too heavy, but put too much sugar in our body which have an enormous number of people with diabetes and a lot of people teetering on the edge of it. >> all right. he said nanny state. some people say it's a slap in the face of american freedom. but maybe it's just a punch in the face of big food. the food and beverage industry seems to be buying other politicians' silence. remember the sugar tax proposal? that was kryptonite action even for super bloomberg. he couldn't beat the lobbyists down. big food spent $27 million
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lobbying politicians last year. coca-cola and pepsi led the charge. and that is money well spent when you consider the return. those two beverage giants alone brought in $113 billion in combined revenue last year. those returns are insane. but the costs hit everyone. thanks in part to big food ingredients, including sugar, the obesity epidemic in america is out of control. nearly two-thirds of americans are overweight or obese. tonight that's more than 190 million americans. 25 million have diabetes. according to the cdc, the health care costs are astounding. for diabetes and obesity, $364 billion a year, paid for by yourself. oh, yeah, and if you include heart disease, the number one killer, the cdc tacks on another $444 billion a year. so maybe we really do need a super hero to help us fight the
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food cocaine dealers and help us help ourselves. now, the beverage industry rebuts that. coke responded to super bloomberg's statement today saying, quote, the people of new york city are much smarter than the new york city health department believes. they can make their own choices about the beverages they purchase. now, perhaps they're right. we can make our own choices. the problem is we're just weak. we, the people, love sweets. as dog owners digest reports, quote, while the pathetic begging look that goes across the face of a dog wanting chocolate can weaken the most stoic dog owner, stay firm. do not give in. ever. chocolate can kill dogs. just like fatty, sugary food can kill people. some people say once you start, it won't stop. this is big brother. the super mayor is still allowing alcohol, diet soda and fruit juice. maybe we do need someone to tempt us with the sweets and leave us with the bill when we get sick and fat.
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robert kenner and matt welch are outfront tonight. obviously we had a lot of fun putting that together today. matt, let me just ask you, though, is this a case -- i know you're going to be somebody, look, get the government out of my business but is this a place where we can draw the line. >> definitely the 20-ounce level of coke is where we need to draw -- if that bottle is any higher than 16 ounces, stop it. finally we have a super hero. no, it's ridiculous. what bloomberg is trying to do and unfortunately too many other mayors around the country are trying to do is change people's behavior by criminalizing their choices. it's kind of an appalling conception of what government is here to do. we're talking about what people do with their own lives that don't hurt anybody. it's consensual choice of what they want to put in their own bodies. it is not the government's role and it's not going to change their behavior ultimately whether they can buy a 24 or 32-ounce soda at the citi field or not. it is a ridiculous misuse of
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what government should be doing in any context at all. >> robert, i know you would beg to differ and i have to say as someone who now travels around this country, smoking bans in bars are a fantastic thing. >> well, smoking bans in california started -- well, they added a smoking tax about 11 years ago and it saved us a ton, a ton of money because of the decrease in lung cancer. and i disagree with matt when he says this is not doing anyone any harm. the fact is, we have a major health care crisis on our hands and it's costing us all a fortune. >> matt, what about this -- the quote about the dog? i mean this is -- okay, dogs love chocolate. the problem is you give the dog a little bit of chocolate and the dog cannot control itself and it wants you. it gives you that look and it breaks your heart to say no. but sometimes you have to restrict the dog's choices to save the dog's life. we are the dogs. >> i think this is a very telling analogy, because we are
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calling ourselves dogs that need to be treated by the owner, which is government. this is creepy. i mean let's not put too fine a point on it. this is weird territory we're getting into right now and doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of public health or anything else. this is not what we should be doing in this country for crying out loud. let's also think about this. there's a disturbing element of class here. it's not as if bloomberg and his friends in wall street or the hipsters in brooklyn who are eating grass-fed pigs an these kind of things, they're not the ones drinking 24-ounce sodas. it's this element going after transfats and high salt content that bloomberg has shown throughout his mayoralhood of going after those people's choices here. it is rich people telling poor people how to live and i'm frankly uncomfortable with it and i think people should look in the mirror a little bit before they start telling people what to do. >> when people do that, they need money for the health care
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and that comes from the taxpayer. >> yeah, when we filmed "in food inc." we went to a lorin come school. when i ask people how many people they knew that had diabetes in that classroom, everybody knew at least three people with diabetes. it costs about $500 a month to buy diabetes medicine. right now one-third of all americans born after the year 2000 will have early onset diabetes. so i think we have an absolute health care crisis. the majority of the weight that's being put on is because of sodas. so right now i think we have to do something about this and it's an absolute crisis that's costing us way too much and costing poor people way too much. these sodas, this cheap food is way too expensive. >> well, thanks very much to both of you. maybe the solution is if coke and pepsi and big food had to pay the bill, unlike the taxpayer, on that health care, maybe they wouldn't want to sell the drinks anymore.
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still outfront, the obama campaign attacks mitt romney. we ran the numbers and will tell you if the attack adds up. finally a verdict, sorta, in the john edwards' trial. a verdict that is as weird, strange and twisted as the trial itself. what happens next? paul callan ahead. and how barney, the purple dinosaur, is america's secret interrogation weapon. or hires another employee, it's not just good for business, it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $6.4 billion in new credit to small businesses across the country last year. because the more we help them, the more we help make opportunity possible.
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our second story outfront, let's call it stunt day in america, from sea to shining sea. just a day after promising a healthy debate in this election year, the obama and romney teams held duelling events. in massachusetts, president obama's top strategist slammed mitt romney's record as governor, obviously fittingly in front of the state capitol in boston. and in california, romney made a surprise appearance at the headquarters of, oh, yeah, bankrupt company solyndra, calling it a symbol of the president's failed economic policies. the press secretary for the obama campaign, good to see you. >> nice to be with you tonight, erin. >> good to see you. all right. so i want to just get straight to this issue of what your team
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is trying to say about mitt romney and talking about his record as the governor of massachusetts. obviously you're going hard after job creation. so i want to get straight to it, to duval patrick with joe scarborough this morning. here he is. >> i think when he left office, it was in the fours, about 4.3 was the national average. >> that's pretty good. >> yeah. it was about -- by the time he left, it was about what the national rate was. i think it had trailed the national rate, been higher than the national rate for most of his time. at the time he left, i think that's about right. >> all right, ben, your surrogate seems to be a little off message. >> well, you know, we need to take a look at where massachusetts ranked compared to other states during mitt romney. when he came into office, massachusetts ranked 36th out of 50th in job creation and it slipped to 47th under mitt romney. manufacturing jobs declined by
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twice the national average. that's because of the policy that say romney pursued as governor, similar ones to those that he would pursue today. he cut funding for manufacturing in massachusetts. he vetoed legislation that would have prevented outsourcing. he cut programs essential for the middle class for things like education. ultimately it had an impact. it had an impact on middle class families. but it's not just job creation we're talking about today, erin. we're talking about debt and deficits, we're talking about spending, we're talking about the size of government. he made a bunch of promises in 2002 that sound like the ones he's making on the campaign trail today and he didn't fulfill them. debt increased by 16%. he left the state with a billion dollar deficit. taxes went up. spending went up. and so if those policies didn't work then, why would they work at that? >> one thing that's interesting here, and deval patrick is the current governor of massachusetts who came in after mitt romney. he also talked about bain capital and said it was, quote, a perfectly fine company. obviously we heard that same
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line from cory booker about a week and a half ago on "meet the press." so are you concerned that some of these attacks on the likes of bain capital, though, will not stick? if people who know the company well are defending it in your own party? >> not at all. the bulk of governor patrick's interview was about the buyer's remorse that massachusetts residents have about romney's tenure there. there was a poll that came out recently in massachusetts that showed romney losing his home state by 25 points. but governor patrick has made the same point that we have, that this isn't an attack on the financial sector or private equity generally. the question we are asking is, are the lessons and values and experiences that romney took from his tenure as a corporate buyout specialist where he profited off of bankrupting companies and outsourcing jobs an effective one that the american people would like to see in the oval office. massachusetts provides us with the example of how it worked and it didn't work for middle class
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families in massachusetts. >> before we go, unemployment rate was 4.7 ahead of the 4.5 national average. but it seems that a lot of the problems he may have had are problems that your guys has as well. wage growth slowed this month. may the slowest we have seen in several months. we have people leading the workforce at record numbers. that could cause the unemployment rate to go down because more people are dissatisfied and unhappy. are you trying to take the attention off because the president's record doesn't look so good when looked at it that way? >> not at all. mitt romney says the economic crisis never happened. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when the president came into office. the manufacturing sector was in decline. the auto industry was on the brink. businesses have now created more than 4.2 million jobs. manufacturing is resurgent. gm is the number one automaker in the world again. if you want to compare records, look no further than this stat.
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under mitt romney in the first 40 months of his administration, under 5,000 jobs were created. under president obama in the past 40 months, in the state of massachusetts, we've created nearly 22,000 jobs. >> obviously it was a much deeper economic crisis this time than last, but certainly some important numbers to keep in mind. thanks so much to ben. there are new polls showing a tightening race between the president and mitt romney in three battleground states. colorado, iowa and nevada. all states the president won in 2008. now, one thing that could swing the vote, though, is women, and we know they are important. issues they care about central to this campaign. today a heated debate over sex-selective abortions. dana bash is outfront. >> reporter: what you're looking at is a sting operation. an anti-abortion actor undercover at a texas planned parenthood clinic pretending to want an abortion if she's having a girl. a planned parenthood staffer
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helps by giving advice on how to find out the baby's gender. >> you don't have to say what you're going to go do. >> reporter: planned parenthood issued a statement saying it condemns sex selection motivated by gender bias and fired its employee caught on tape. and in yet another video from new york city just released today, a social worker doesn't encourage aboerlting a female fetus but doesn't condemn it either. >> if you find out that it's a girl and if what you would prefer is to terminate the pregnancy, that's your decision. >> reporter: it's no accident that lyle lila rose released t edited videos this week. >> we're missing these girls and that should cause all of us distress. >> reporter: rose carefully coordinated with house republicans, pushing new anti-abortion legislation banning what they call gendercide. >> we are going to allow little girls to be killed before they're born simply because they are little girls.
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>> reporter: under the legislation, doctors who knowingly perform abortions chosen because of gender would face up to five years in prison and fines. abortion providers could also be subject to civil penalties, including punitive, monetary damages. >> today the three most dangerous words in china and india are "it's a girl." we can't let that happen here. >> reporter: republican authors of the bill cite multiple studies claiming evidence of a rising number of u.s. abortions based on the sex of the fetus. but abortion rights advocates take issue with the studies. the reality is, it's hard to know the truth about such a private issue. politically, republicans are trying to turn the democrats' charge that there's a gop war on women on its head. >> this, mr. speaker, is the real war on women. >> reporter: democrats called the legislation a political stunt. >> attempts to redistristrict o access to safe abortions is harmful to women's health and would ultimately take us back to
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the days of back alley abortions. >> dana, the bill was defeated today, even though a majority in the house voted for it. can you explain how that could happen? >> reporter: that's right. 246 votes, erin, well above the majority. the reason it happened is because the way republicans who run the house structured this was to have a limited debate and a two-thirds majority required. so that did dnot happen. why did they do that? they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. they wanted to be able to highlight this issue, at least for a day to turn the war on women on its head, but also really get it out of the way fast because they still want to focus, they say, on the big issue, which is what you've been talking about this whole show, it's the economy. >> all right, thanks very much to you, dana. ahead, one of the most powerful men in the catholic church. tonight accusations he paid certain priests to leave. and barney, the purple dinosaur, is rolling the war on terror. a party?
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the pentagon confirmed today something that many of us suspected for years. according to the defense department's captain john kirby, music is regularly used to punish prisoners at guantanamo bay.
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>> we subscribe to the law and to humane treatment. but, yes, music is used, again, both in a positive way and as a disincentive. i wouldn't get into characterizing exactly what type of music has been used. >> is it from barney? was it from barney? >> we do not torture. >> that's right. it's believed the pentagon forced prisoners at gitmo to listen to barney for 24 straight hours. according to a u.s. service member involved in psychological operations, quote, your brain and body functions start to slide. your train of thought slows down and your will is broken. that sounds intense. i mean these are songs meant for children, right? but after a quick listen, i'm sure you'll agree the estimation isn't very far off. ♪ won't you say you love me too ♪
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>> yeah, that's barney. the pentagon says that's not torture. but seriously, you drop that laugh on me for a few hours and i'd confess to just about anything, whether i did it or not, seriously. still outfront in our second half, a nutty verdict in the bizarre trial. we ask paul callan what it means for mr. john edwards. and his rant went viral and tonight he's outfront. >> i feel like somebody trying to be released from egypt. let my people go! all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. new york city mayor michael bloomberg has proposed a ban on soda and sweetened drinks bigger than 16 ounces. one of the big reasons, health. sugary drinks play a huge part in the obesity epidemic in this country. nearly two-thirds of americans are overweight or obese. here's what matt welch of reason had to say. >> it's ridiculous. what we're trying to do, what bloomberg is trying to do and unfortunately too many other mayors around the country are trying to do is change people's
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behavior by criminalizing their choices. it's kind of an appalling conception of what government is here to do. we're talking about what people do with their own lives that don't hurt anybody. >> but if you offer me an apple and a candy bar, i'll pick the candy bar every time. president george w. bush received a warm welcome as he returned to the white house for the first time today. he and former first lady, laura bush, unveiled their official portraits. there were a few emotional moments such as when the president mentioned his portrait will hang near his father's. what stood out to me were the ceremony's one-liners. >> plus you also left me a really good tv sports package. >> i am pleased that my portrait brings an interesting symmetry to the white house collection. it now starts and ends with a george w.
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i am also pleased, mr. president, that when you are wandering these halls as you wrestle with tough decisions, you will now be able to gaze at this portrait and ask "what would george do?" it is my privilege to introduce the greatest first lady ever -- sorry mom. >> all right. jpmorgan's ceo jamie dimon will testify on capitol hill about his bank's $3 billion trading loss. the senate banking committee hearing will take place june 13th. they were trying to hold it on june 7th, but according to the statement, the 13th is the only date that works for everyone. who's it going to be lucky for? cardinal timothy dolan is the archbishop of new york and he's been linked apparently to an abusive priest payout plan. victims in the archdiocese of milwaukee say cardinal dolan who is the archbishop of milwaukee at the time okayed paying off priests accused of molesting
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children. the unassignable priests were offered $20,000. in a statement, the archdiocese said it was the most expedient and cost-effective way to have offenders removed from the priesthood. a spokesman for archbishop timothy dolan has no comment on the allegations. it's been 301 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the market has not been helping. dow and nasdaq both just turned in their worst monthly performances in a year. the dow off more than 6%, the nasdaq more than 7% in may. now our third story outfront. a mistrial in the bizarre and twisted case of john edwards. and for now he's avoided a 30-year prison sentence and more than a million dollars in fines. after almost nine days of deliberations, the jury in the federal trial told the judge today they were deadlocked. the judge sent them back to deliberate, and when all was said and done, they only reached a verdict on one of the six counts against john edwards. and it was not guilty on illegal campaign contributions. the former presidential
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candidate was on trial, accused of using those campaign contributions to hide his affair with rielle hunter and the child he had with her. edwards spoke after the partial verdict. >> i want to make sure that everyone hears from me and from my voice that while i do not believe i did anything illegal or ever thought i was ever doing anything illegal, i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong. and if i want to find the person who should be held accountable for my sins, honestly i don't have to go any further than the mirror. >> paul callan is outfront tonight. so, paul, what is this -- what does this mean? is this h going to go back and be tried again for the remaining counts? how do you get a verdict on one count and none of the others? >> well, it's a split decision on this with respect to legal experts. the majority think the justice department probably will walk away from this case and not retry it for a couple of reasons.
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first, it's a rare case where two branches of government sdpra disagreed on the case. the federal elections commission didn't even think this was criminal and yet the justice department brought the case. it would be kind of like the irs saying you're not a tax criminal and the justice department indicts you for it anyway. so you can make a strong argument it's a very, very weak case. but statistically if we're not talking about politicians, they almost always retry you after a hung jury. statistically, you almost always get convicted after a hung jury. so if it was handled -- >> so he goes completely free now, they let it go, or it gets retried and the chances at least historically not in his favor? >> if we go by statistics, the chances are great that he would get convicted on retrial, yes. i'm just talking about statistics. >> right. >> now, one other thing to note. he was acquitted on only one count in this indictment. it's a seven-count indictment. and it was -- it had to do with bunny mellon writing checks in 2008. on all of the other counts, the
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jury, they were divided. obviously some thought he was guilty, some thought he was innocent. so you could argue why not give another jury a shot at it. so there will be a big debate at justice about whether to proceed sgl . >> when will we find out. >> probably within the next three months, four months. they'll look at the jurors and try to figure out what the split was. it was it 12-1, 8-4 and how strong their chances are for going forward. >> you heard john edwards say he need look no further than the mirror. a version of a john edwards we haven't seen before. he also made a comment about his future. >> remindinged me of snow white, that mirror, mirror on the wall thing, you know, who's the fairest politician of them all? >> here's what he said about possibly politics. >> i don't think god is through with me. i really believe he thinks there's still some good things i
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can do. >> yes. what's surprising about that is it sounds like he's thinking about maybe another political run? i really don't know. and he also said that he takes full responsibility, blame nobody but me. but during the trial, he blamed andrew young, his aide, remember? he said he didn't know about the expenditures. so i think people should take a closer look at mr. edwards' statements before they decide how to proceed in the future. >> paul callan, thank you very much. now our fourth story outfront, the rant heard around the nation. illinois representative mike bost became an internet sensation after he went ballistic on the floor of the legislature. he was upset he didn't have enough time to look at a pension reform bill before having to vote on it. >> once again, total power in one person's hands, not the american way! these damn bills that come out of here all the damn time, come out here at the last second and
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i've got to try to figure out how to vote for my people, i'm sick of it! every year we give power to one person! now we give -- we pass rules that stop each one of us. enough! i feel like somebody trying to be released from egypt. let my people go! my god, they sent me here to vote for them. >> all right. i'm just -- he is obviously standing by. i'm wondering why the people who were standing around, they were sort of sitting there in shock. but that tirade is something that resonated with a lot of people. illinois' financial situation is incredibly serious. the state is $128.4 billion in debt, the eighth worst in the nation. it has $83 billion in pension obligations that it can't pay, the second worst in the country. and an a plus credit rating by standard & poor's which may sound good but it's bad, the second worst in the country. out front tonight, illinois
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state representative mike bost. good to see you, sir. you must have gotten a head rush there yelling that loud. >> it was -- yeah, it was not my normal reaction, but it had been an extremely rough day with 200, 300-page bill that had been changed that we had been working fon a year and a half. and now all of a sudden it was time to vote and they came in ten minutes before the meeting and decided that now we would hand you a bill brand new with all the changes -- all the things that we had not supported. so, yeah, there was a problem. >> we're seeing you there throw your papers in the air. yeah, there was a problem, that was an understatement. we contacted the house speaker's office, he was the person you were referring to there. they said. >> that's correct. >> this is the kind of stunt they see from the republican minority every year and gave a statement that says, quote, the way to solve this problem is for the republicans to elect more candidates, which is unlikely given the way they conduct
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themselves. what's your response to that? >> actually it's unlikely because the person i referred to actually got to draw the map for the state of illinois on how the districts are laid out. our particular speaker has been the speaker for 30 years, except for two years in 1995 and 1996. the rules for the operation of the house, the constitution doesn't give him the power, but the rules that are voted on every two years by the majority party give him that. and it is basically a situation where total power. and each one of us still represent the same area -- or same population, but yet one particular member that is representing the same population gets to rule all over the 118. that's not right. it has been going on for a long time and i'd finally had enough and i still have enough with it. >> and what are you going to do with it? we were just laying out the situation, the state that illinois is in, and it's terrible. this country is in a terrible
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position, the kind of anger and frustration that you show is what elected leaders feel and what we, the people, feel about you, our elected leaders. so how do we turn it into better dialogue? >> well, one thing is, is in the state of illinois what we need to do is truly deal in a way, in a bipartisan manner, not just claim to deal in a way with bipartisan manner. we were working on a budget together. we in the house were doing that very well. then all of a sudden -- this is an old scheme that's been done by the speaker before to simply throw a bill out and say this is just the way it's going to be. now, he has since changed that. however, he's changed it with 18 hours left in the session to try to correct the problem. he was going to force a tax level on our downstate homeowners that they could not afford, and the problem is with the state, not with just the downstate. >> all right, well, thank you very much, sir. we appreciate you taking the time. representative bost here from illinois. next, her son was attacked and chewed off the face of a
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we're back with tonight's outer circle, where we reach out to our sources around the world. tonight we go to europe. an international manhunt under way for luka rocco magnata. the suspect in the gruesome murder case in canada before a man's torso were found in montreal and his face and hand mailed to politicians in ottawa. they say he filmed the murder and posted it online before fleeing the country. paula newton is in london, and i asked her where police think he is on. >> reporter: canadian authorities now say that they have good reason to believe that magnata has left the country, perhaps even gone to france as early as last weekend. interpol has released a wanted poster, a red notice to police forces around the world to be on the lookout for this suspect. when that foot that, gruesome foot was mailed to canada, it had a note attached that seemed to suggest that the killer might
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strike again. so police have reason to believe that he is dangerous, but they say so far they do not have any concrete leads of where he might be right now. and such a bizarre case. police really saying that they have never seen anything like this, that he has left quite a trail of evidence on the internet. but also insisting that right now they don't know why, they have no idea what the motive could have been for this kind of gruesome crime. erin. >> thanks very much to paula. now let's check in with anderson for a look at what's coming up on "ac 360." we'll have more on the breaking news, the verdict in the long and winding trial of john edwards. the verdict was strung out and left as many questions as answers. you'll hear an emotional statement from edwards on the steps of the courthouse. i'll talk with our panel. also our keeping them honest report, the shameless lies being spun by syria despite video evidence proving otherwise. the images are horrific. it's important for the world to see what the syrian regime continues to do to its own people while at the same time flat-out lying about it, denying
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any involvement. we're not talking about the massacre from a week ago, new video from a new attack today in an area just outside the city of homs. the american free lance photographer that shot the footage who is there now. a new ruling about danger in the water at seaworld and whether the company is doing enough to protect its employees. all that, the ridiculist and more at the top of the hour, erin. and now our fifth story outfront. we're learning more tonight about the man who was killed by florida police as he was chewing off another man's face. rudy eugene's mother and girlfriend speaking out about an incident so gruesome, as we've been telling you, the pictures are disturbing. it is awful. there were people who were biking by and saw this absolutely horrific scene. 31-year-old eugene was described to be in a zombie-like state when he was caught by police in miami on saturday. police say eugene was naked, growling like an animal as he attacked a 65-year-old homeless man. but just that morning, his girlfriend told the "miami herald" he was behaving
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normally. she said that he, quote, planted a kiss on her lips and told her he loved her before heading out. outfront tonight, cbs 4 miami reporter peter dench who spoke with his mother. peter, appreciate you taking the time. i can't even imagine what that conversation was like. what did his mother tell you? how shocked was she that this happened? >> reporter: well, erin, she was completely stunned about the developments in this case. she said that her son was a very special person who had just given her a mother's day card, liked to go to church, was the oldest of three brothers, and she was completely overwhelmed by this. but quite honestly, there is other things that happened in his background that might not have surprised some people. there was a particularly violent episode from 2004 in which police were called to the mother's home because rudy eugene was smashing up some furniture and threatening the life of his own mother. in fact the mother told police "thank god you're here, he was
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going to kill me." erin? >> peter, let me -- she talked about her son and the version she told you is very different than what you're reporting from his prior record. i mean what kind of person did she say that he was? >> reporter: well, she said he was a good person, person, a good season, who respected the family and she was just completely startled that something like this could happen. and she refused to believe it and she went on to say that she felt the police should not have shot him, although they say they had no choice, they should have used a taser on him. but it completely took her offguard and that's why she wanted to go on camera and talk about the developments in this case. >> what about the whole conversation about drugs. because what happened here with the whole sort of superhuman powers is bizarre.
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you have talked to other people who knew rudy eugene. you talked to his some his friends, did he use drugs? what have you been able to find out? >> reporter: one of his close friends said that he had been smoking marijuana, not that that could cause anything as bizarre as this, and he was dealing with some inner demons, somebody was talking about a drug induced psychosis of some sort. we'll have to wait for toxicology results. i spoke with his former football coach from 1998 and 1999 where he was an average football player and showed no propencive towards violence and no indication that anything might occur in the future. and next a football coach, making major history. is always headed somewhere.
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just hired the first nonblack head football coach the
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southwest atlantic conference has ever had. his name is jay hobson and he comes out front sir. you're from mississippi, i know you have played football yourself at ole miss. what does it mean to you to be the first white football coach in this conference? >> just really, erin, extremely honored. akorn is the number one ranked university in america. and when dr. brown chose me to be the head football coach of the braves is truly an honor. >> there is a small group of alumni who have voiced their dissatisfaction, they don't think it's appropriate because you're white. what's your reaction to that? >> well, erin, everybody has the right to their opinion, and they can't dispute that, i have had
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tremendous support, i'm from here, this is home to me, i have grown up with many akronites and it's a great opportunity for me and my family. i'm a football coach, i'm not a politician, i'm a football coach, but i think one thing that we can all learn from the wonderful profession of coaching is, i have been coaching for 20 years and i don't believe i have ever known a black coach that didn't love his wife players and a white coach that didn't love his black players. in the big scope of things, we can all learn a lot from this profession because i think we all learn to love one another and work with one another. as a football coach, and being the head coach at akorn, like i told my players, like i told the
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alumni, jay hobson sees purple and gold, it doesn't matter if you're black, white, green, its if relevant, the bottom line is we want to go out and recruit the best football players that can help our university be successful. >> have you had a chance to speak to any of those alumni yourself? do you even know who they are personally? >> i really don't know who they are because i've been pretty fortunate, i've been pretty sheltered. all the alumni that i have talked to have been very supportive. some of them i have known for most of my 43 years. but it's been a great welcome and what can i say about dr. brown, our president's been absolutely fantastic to me and i'm just proud to be here, proud to represent this university. i know we have a job to do, that's the pressing issue for me, erin, is we got two months to get ready for a season. that's the big obstacle for jay
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hobson, getting a football team up and running in two months. >> do you feel in all of this that you felt that you could actually put yourself in someone else's shoes, you know, so many black people in this country have felt, i'm a minority, i'm not being given a fair shake or feeling that sense of being the one when the other people are the many, is it a little bit strange to you to suddenly be the person who's the one, not that everybody's discriminating against you, i don't mean it that way, but you're the minority. >> like i said, i'm a football coach and my whole life i have recruited -- 95% of my recruits have been african-american kids and they're like family to me and i love them like sons and i'm not -- you know, i don't -- i guess i don't see things in that big of a political scope. i'm a football coach and i love my kids and i just want my kids to go out and play hard. i hope one day when they graduate, they say you know what? i'm a