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sdmreerchlgts hello again. welcome to "newsroom international." i'm fredricka whitfield in for saws ann malveaux. we're going around the world in 60 minutes. here's what's happening. >> people in gaza celebrate what they call victory over the enemy. it's now almost 24 hours since the cease-fire between israel and hamas was announced. so far so good. the truce seems to be holding. this rally today in gaza city drew thousands of people. instead of rockets flying through the air, palestinians were flying flags. a rare show of unity with yellow fatah flags along with green hamas flags and palestinian flags flying at this rally as well.
>> that's right, fredricka. nothing brings palestinians together like israeli aggression does. you've been hearing about everybody on all sides, it's not whether you are affiliated or support hamas or fatah or islamicee geohuhhed or any of them. it is about being palestinian. we not only saw people out because they were supporting this victory, as it is being called on this side but also because they were able to do so because they spent so many days couped up, but their children were begging them. the minute the cease-fire was announced, to let them just go out. this has been a people that has been living in complete and total fear since this all began last wednesday. many saying they could not be entirely sure where the israelis would be striking next. you see targets ranging from empty lots between buildings, that the israelis where hamas was launching its rockets from, all the way through government
installations, police stations, even media. journalists who are working with television stations, radio stations that are affiliated with hamas and with islamic jihad. there's been a big sigh of relief from the population here that at least now for the time being that no longer exists. >> in the eyes of the palestinian people, how is this cease-fire different than previous ones? >>. >> this conflict that lasted for around eight days is different in the sense that four years ago it was much bloodier and there was more wide spread destruction, and even though it was being called a victory, it was still very much the israelis coming in reinvading gaza and then withdrawing when they thought as if they had gotten most of the job done. this time around the sentiment is that the palestinians, hamas, was able to force the israelis to the negotiating table. although, of course, it was an intermediary, and egypt, as we
know, very well. right now the sense, though, is that this is not a long-term solution, so in that perspective, it is not that much different from other cease-fires. this is a temporary solution, and everyone here realizes the road ahead as it has always been is very long, very challenging, and that solution that everyone says they want, that still remains elusive. >> arwa damon, thanks so much. let's cross the border now to the israeli side, the city that sits just a few miles from gaza and has been hit numerous times by hamas rockets. our fred plankon reports on the mood there. in the town that suffered through so many air raid alarms, igor says this is the first time he can take his kids shopping without fear. >> you feel like you're back to
life. there are alarms and fire. sdmrul won't see people celebrating the cease-fire here. many saying the air campaign israel waged against hamas didn't achieve the main objective of stopping rocket attacked on towns. many fear the fire from gaza will start begin as it has in the past. >> i think the government of israel must with this war. >> you think hamas is the winner there. life was put on hold during the conflict. schools were closed, and most businesses as well. many stayed indoors if they didn't have to go outside. now the mayor is busy getting
the town up and running again. he says he, too, blooefdz rockets will be raining on his town again in the not too distant future. >> maybe the cease-fire will be a few days, a few months. i don't think that it will be more than a few months. many of the soldiers are packing up their gear and getting ready to leaf this area. tairnks, armored personnel carriers and other heavy equipment will return to their barracks tens of thousands of reservists will return home. as a cease-fire that very few believe in takes hold, some feel the need to pray, if not for peace, then at least for a period of quiet. >> fred joining us live now. fred, you know, were you surprised to hear people there say that israel should have
continued those deadly air strikes on gaza? >> i was pretty surprised to hear people call for a ground war, at least some of them. i wasn't surprised hear people call for the air campaign to go on longer. one of the things we need to know about the area is that the people here get hit by rockets even in the best of times. not just during the military campaign, but on any given week you could have a rocket fall here and there, and people have been telling us they simply don't want to go on in this way anymore. they call the kind of operation that the israelis conducted now mowing the lawn, because they say what happens is they conduct an air campaign, and what happens is after that hamas is still there, hamas regroups and abbas gets new rockets, and hamas starts firing at towns again.
>> do they feel they have any other options for places to live? >> you know, some people are doing just that. i mean, one of the things that's been going on is that people have been leaving this place or at least trying to stay with relatives in northern israel for the time that this conflict is going on. there's other people who have sent their children to the north of israel to make sure they're out of rocket's reach, but how often do you want to send your kids to live somewhere else, evacuate your children from their home? certainly there are people who are thinking of leaving the area, but by and large, the people that we've been speaking to say this is their home, this is where they want to stay, and they certainly aren't going to let people who shoot rockets at them determine where they want to live, but nevertheless, of course, it's a very difficult situation for the people here. it was something that they hoped would be solved this time
around. even in the short-term, there are some people who say at least for the time being we might have a period of calm where we can go outside where our kids can go outside without having to worry about rockets raining down on our heads. >> fred, thanks so much. a man who advised six u.s. secretaries of state on the middle east says there is only one winner in this conflict, and that is hamas. aaron david miller, author and long-time diplomatic policymaker joining me from cleveland, ohio. good to see you. >> pleasure to be here, fredricka. >> why is this, the feeling that hamas comes out in better shape than israel? even hamas feels that way. >> well, i think it's a toss-up here. there are two clear winners. hamas for sure. you've witnessed a parade of arab officials literally visiting gaza, showering the
political recognition and money. amile an hour of qatar came. the foreign minister of egypt and foreign minister of turkey, and the arab league was there. hamas's stock on this one is rising, and, finally, hamas, again, driving their own narratives have withstood the military power of the middle east most preeminent military force. hamas on this one stands to win. if you add to that the possibility that the israelis may well begin to open up and ease some of the economic restrictions, hamas's legitimacy for the 1.5 million palestinians who currently live in gaza without much hope of an economic future, that legitimacy is going to deepen. if i had to rank this in terms of one, two, three, i think hamas has come out on top. now, the iz raelsz also, though, i think have won. netanyahu has deepened his
relationship with president obama. he has demonstrated he can actually involve the president of egypt. egypt's first civilian president, but a member of the muslim brotherhood, and to essentially enlist him on his side. the israelis avoided a ground incursion to gaza, which clearly they didn't want, and thief tested iron dome, which frankly, works very well, and they have used it essentially as a test. they know now how it works well and where it needs to be improved, so hamas and israel, i think, on this one really came out pretty well. >> so for netanyahu, given he is up for re-election soon, does this kind of cement his positioning, as you just said? it shows that he has a better cooperation with president obama, and perhaps puts him in the situation or in a position where maybe he wins a few extra points with the israeli people and maybe even on the world stage? >> i think there's no question
that thering some development. when elections are held on january 22nd, benjamin netanyahu will be re-elected. he is now the fourth israeli prime minister to serve in two non-consecutive terms. he is the only political leader that could create the kind of coalition that can govern, and he has demonstrated again that he can effectively protect israel's interests, improve his relationship with president obama. still, i might add, pretty dysfunctional. and also deal with the egyptians. yeah, he should be a pretty happy guy now. >> what does this do to help better set the stage or better secure two states a palestinian state and an israeli win. >> here it's a cruel pair docks. the loser is mahmoud abbas. >> in what way? >> well, palestinian national movement looks like noah's ark right now. there are two of everything. two constitutions, two
presidents, two security services, too many states. one in the we think bank over which abbas doesn't exercise full control, and o in gaza, and it is hamas's stock that is rising. as yas is somehow marginalized by this. hamas emerges as the preeminent representative of a sort of militant palestinian nationalism. >> i'm quoting from your article. you write that "abbas may be the best palestinian partner israel has ever had." >> absolutely. there's no question, but that's the cruel pair docks of all of this. he may be the best, and he is currently a centrist moderate man who might like to negotiate a two-state solution, but if he can't deliver or pride over a unified palestinian national movement, if he can't end the israeli occupation or address the fiscal crisis that the p.a. now confronts, well, houston, we
have a problem here. that i think is the real dilemma, and ar away damon said one other interesting thing. there's no instinct here. this is not about israeli-palestinian peace now. this is about a longer range truce or a cessation of hoggsilitys, and we'll have to see as the months go on where the chips fall on this one. >> thanks. always a pleasure. >> pleasure. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you too. here's more of what we're working on this hour in the newsroom international. it's a major diplomat edge win for hillary clinton as well, but will it be her last as u.s. secretary of state? we'll get a live report from the white house. and while the rest of us are celebrating the holiday, we're remembering our service men and women who are on the job and away from their families this thanksgiving. >> hi. i'm master of arms second class alexandra lewis in bagram,
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a real mess taking place here in the states and south texas near beaumont, texas, specifically. a pretty sizable vehicle pile-up which means it's shut down in both directions. this is 70 miles east of houston. pretty sizable wreck taking place there involving up to 50 vehicles. we understand there are first responders from every direction there trying to get to this. initial reports are it could have been fog that has caused this 50-vehicle pile-up there on interstate 10 closing both directions there. of course, when we get more information on it, we'll be able to bring that to you. we understand there are no
reports of fatalities at this time. the us u.s. secretary of state is getting lots of credit in brokering a cease-fire involving israel and gaza. hillary clinton chalked up plenty of miles her shuttle diplomacy mission and cnn's foreign affairs krnlt jill dougherty has more on that. >> reporter: close to the end of a grueling trip to asia, her last international s trip with barack obama. halt the fighting between israel and hamas before it spins out of control. shu did it. a cease-fire. there was no victory lap. >> this is a critical moment for the region. >> clinton's diplomatic feat
helps restore a record tarnished by questions over how the obama administration handled the attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi. will the cease-fire hold? hillary clinton, whose husband, president bill clinton, tried but failed to broker a peace agreement between israelis and palestinians knows only too well how tenuous true peace can be. >> after that will trip which turned out, by the way, to be 11 days on the road all the way over to australia, then back through asia and then to the middle east and then home, secretary clinton is back here in washington. she's here for thanksgiving, and so far, as we've been reporting, that cease-fire appears to be holding. fred. >> all right. in the meantime, hillary clinton has made it very clear that she would likely leave this position at the end of her term. topping the list of those that might be nominated would be s s
susan rice. she's been speaking for the first time in response to so much criticism that she has received on how she handled that attack in benghazi, libya. what more can you tell us about what she is saying and how that is resonating, jill? >> i wouldn't say, fredricka, that she really, you know, broke new ground or changed what this administration has been saying, but obama rice did say herself that with a lot of criticism coming from republicans and specifically john mccain has made some comments about her essentially saying that and that she do a maya culpa and retract what she has said or at least set it right. this controversy isn't going away, but let's listen to what ambassador rice did say.
i made clear that it was preliminary, and that our investigation would give us the definitive answers. everyone, particularly the intelligence community, has worked in good faith to provide the best assessment based on the information available. >> it doesn't appear that this will go away. that probably won't end it. as we know, there have been congressional hearings and also we have the fbi investigation and then the state department investigation as well. until those conclude, it may be very difficult to really put an end to this debate. >> jill dougherty, thanks so much. meanwhile, president barack obama delivered his annual
thanksgiving address giving thanks for the blessings we all share as americans. >> thanksgiving is a chance to put it all in perspective, to remember that despite our differences, we are and always will be americans first and foremost. today we give thanks for blessings that are all too rare in this world. the ability to spend time with the ones we love to say what we wep want, that already brave men and women and to tell our children that here in america no dream is too big if they're willing to work for it. >> the president also expressed his gratitude to fema. first responders and volunteers who have come to the aid of superstorm sandy victims. >> i'm jason mcclendon from alabama. i want to give a shout out to my wife and my two sons and family members while i'm deployed overseas and tell them happy thanksgiving and go falcons.
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wot him hamas may face a power vacuum make it harder to keep the peace with israel. >> hamas's ability to hold up its end of the cease-fire is depending how much control it has over its most dangerous militants. the leader of hamas's military wing last week. >> you believe it was actually a mistake for israel to take him out, right? >> i do believe it was a mistake for israel to take him out. i think that the core objectives that were stated by israel for taking him out will not be met by his death. i think, in fact, it will lead to the proliferation of extremist groups, and less control, actually, over rocket attacks and increased violence
against israel. >> people are constaptly surprised. there were people in hamas jails for firing rockets at israelis. not for the after firing rockets, but for firing rockets at the wrong time, and jabri is a leader -- a key figure in hamas driving the palestinian fatah faction out of gaza. then -- >> he completely changed the hamas military structure. not only in terms of defeating fatah in gaza, but after the hamas takeover turning this rag tag force turning at a minimum an organized militia if not an actual army. >> organizing them into companies, battalions, brigades, and according to analysts and one israeli official, he worked closely with iran to coordinate training and the shipment of weapons to hamas, including
longer range missiles that can strike tel aviv and jerusalem. the israelis say he was instrumental in the abduction of israeli soldier gilead shalit. he also negotiated his release in exchange for prisoners. >> not having somebody like that, somebody who can be an enforcer of peace as well as an enforcer of war can make it not only hard to reach a peace agreement, but it can make it hard to avoid war because whenever somebody decides to take a pot shot, they take a pot shot. >> now all eyes will be on who among the sur vooifg hamas leaders can bring those more fanatical elements of the group in line and try to keep some measure of peace with israel. it's believed that mohammed who worked behind the scenes while maum medicine al jabri worked behind has at least temporarily taken his place, but he is physically impaired from at
least two assassination attempts by the israelis, and it's not clear how much control he has. brian todd, cnn, washington. here in the states i told you earlier about a big pile-up in south texas. now we're getting some aerial views of it. it is pretty phenomenal. 50-vehicle pile-up there. you can see near beaumont, texas, on i-10, which is a major thoroughfare there. we understand that traffic has been stopped in both directions there as it runs about 70 miles to the east of houston, texas. there you can see vehicles of all sorts that are involved in this sizable pile-up. we don't have any confirmation about injuries or fatalities, but just looking at the debris field there, it's quite extraordinary. you have first responders from all parts of jefferson county that are there on the scene and, of course, we get you more information. we understand that a contributing factor may have been dense fog. the crash happened at about 8:45
local time this morning. we'll bring you more information as we get it. now, we've also been talking a lot about the cease-fire between the israelis and hamas, but another battle continues in the middle east. that in syria the besieged city of aleppo specifically. a government air strike hit a building next to one of the city's last remaining hospitals. the rebels say at least 15 people died, including a doctor and two children. syrian war planes dropped bombs across aleppo flattening buildings and killing a total of 40 people, but outside the city the rebels are gaining ground. their latest conquest is a flash point border town between syria and iraq. it is used as an army base and filled with weapons, we understand. >> happy thanksgiving. daddy loves you.
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at this point i think it's gone. >> sandwiched between two bodies of water. >> so this is the canal coming up with the harbor, and liberty is right here. we really had quite a surgery because of the river and the guanas merging. >> reporter: ashley murray's family business devastated. >> this is very hard for you personally? >> yeah. >> reporter: i can see it in your eyes. >> yeah. yeah. it's just we're devastate. it's just been a devastating process, and there needs to be a little bit more help. >> reporter: do you feel forgotten? >> a little bit, yeah, yeah. so this was once a really nice showroom. >> reporter: 80% of her inventory gone. >> essentially we have moved everything into our stockroom so that we can work from the sidewalk, so now this is where we are functioning from.
we have one functioning computer, one printer, and we have people coming in from the roll-down door. >> reporter: before sandy you didn't have any debt. >> right. >> reporter: now? >> now we're probably looking at $700,000 to $800,000 in debt. >> reporter: of debt. what kind of help have you gotten from the government? >> nothing from the government. >> reporter: ashley found government loans with 6% interest. her bank did better with a line of credit adjusted over 3%. >> we had chop saws and boxed items that -- >> reporter: there go the lights again. rirchlgt the challenge of doing business these days, even the generators fail. things are so bad here in red hook that this business right next door to ashley's is literally drying invoices like this with a hair dryer. what does this business mean to you? >> everything. it's my life. >> reporter: ashley's employees watched her grow up working along side her father. >> if this business went under? >> i think i would go under too, you know?
>> reporter: now it's up to her to save their jobs. >> there's so much history here. the community, our customers. i mean, we really do have a great business here, and i think we can make it great again. >> reporter: despite all of this, ashley is still optimistic that she will have her business back up and fully running by this spring, but i can tell you that her business has already taken quite a hit. it's down about 30% since superstorm sandy, and she expects that all in this is going to cost her somewhere between $700,000 and $800,000, money that she is getting in the form of a line of credit from her bank because at this point she hasn't been able to find any deposit loans that are affordable enough for her right now, and she is representative of so many other small businesses out there. really, really struggling in the wake of seasoned. poppy harlow, cnn, new york. and a massive drug bust in australia. $246 million worth of illegal substances stashed in a surprising place. we'll get details.
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all right. more on a massive thanksgiving day pile-up in south texas. it has interstate 10 shut down in both directions. you can see the traffic there. my goodness. it stretches miles all because about a 50-vehicle pile-up involving cars, 18-wheelers, you flame it. you see right there the debris field from this pile-up. remarkably, we understand from authorities there on the ground, no reports of serious injuries or fatalities.
the cars, trucks, and 18-wheelers are involved, and they are working the scene coming from the jefferson county area. all right. an american and a canadian are under arrest in sydney, australia, accused of carrying out a huge drug smuggling operation. police say the two smuggled $246 million worth of cocaine and methamphetamine into australia. police found the drug stuffed inside a steam roller. the construction equipment was shipped to australia from china. for some shopping on black friday is becoming as much of a holiday tradition as turkey and cranberry sauce. well, shoppers have been camping out in front of stores all weeklong to be the first in line, like here in idaho, but the most astonishing part of black friday is the chaos.
here's kiung law with some of the most shocking shopping moments. >> reporter: the stampedes, the gate crashing. the pushing. >> it's a tv for god's sake. >> reporter: even tasing. shoppers consumed with a deal turning on one another. at this wal-mart last year one used pepper spray to fight suffocation in the crowd. this is black friday in america, and connecticut shopper john daying et. >> i have been standing in line for 36 hours. >> reporter: loves it. this father of an 18-month-old has been camping out for years. one year he snapped photos as this crowd fought over $5 headphones. >> the shoppers just went crazy. i have never seen anything like it. people start lunging and grabbing andou just see the arms all just go at once just, you know, forward like a team of superheroes. >> what is relatively new are shoppers turning on other
shoppers. >> reporter: amy says competitive shopping is worse, so accepted on black friday that it's here to say. >> this piling on, stores being desperate for consumers to come and shop so they're going to be offering a lot of deals and making a promotional environment something that predisposes people to not behave. >> reporter: bad behavior has led to serious injuries, even death. from crushed workers and shoppers to shootings at stores. that's why best buy has been running drills on crowd control. they're so serious that this store check out the plan on the black friday war board. >> we prep a lot. we make sure the line is monitored. we let in gts groups at the time so that way our employees aren't getting overwhelmed. >> reporter: the tents, the lines, the mayhem. some shoppers say the only way that they can handle black friday is by declaring a shopping blackout. >> people go crazy for a good deal, but it's not worth it to
me. it's not worth it to my family. >> reporter: the crowds are just part of obtaining rare black friday deals, says daggett. >> i love when they try to swing at you or anything. it's funny to me, because everybody always gets mad when you're the one with the items that they want. >> reporter: consumers driven by competition no matter the cost. in south texas a multi-vehicle pile-up leaves i-10 closed in both directions. we'll have more after this. ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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kitty, kermit the frog, and papa smurf. clowns and cheerleaders also dancing along for hours. the city reserved 5,000 special parade seats for people hit hard by superstorm sandy. >> the us on is hosting special holiday meals in airports across the nation. for traveling troops and their families who might not have time to cook or the energy. george howell joining us live from atlanta's heartsfield, jackson, airport where so many troops are returning today from their duties overseizes. george, always very emotional homecomings. these reunions of families and troops. >> we've seen several so far. they started trickling in. here the next couple of hours we know a flight with a lot of soldiers will be coming through
atlanta, and fredricka, some of the soldiers are coming home. some are heading back to afghanistan, back to places where they have duty. you know, we spoke to one couple this morning. we spoke to rod and kelli mccormick. this is interesting because rod has been gone for six months his 2-year-old son was walking and crawling, and now there's a lot of time that's gone by, a lot of moments that rod has missed, but it was interesting to talk to them because their focus now is about getting together for thanksgiving, getting together with family and making new memories. take a listen. >> are we walking? >> wow. >> and what's your role going to be? just as far as helping to make sure he gets reacclimated to all these changes? what's it going to be like? >> i already e-mailed him kind of asking things that i could do and, you know, there's not really anything.
it's just going to take time, but i just -- so i think it will be harder for mckenzie and connor to warm up to him because he has been gone, and is he kind of like a stranger to them. >> you know, so we've seen a lot of that today, fredricka. when you hang out there when the passengers come up to meet family members, these soldiers, they arrived to applause. you see the signs out there. family members, these kids that are holding signs, welcome home daddy, welcome home mom. >> what about these big meals, these thanksgiving meals that are being arranged for a lot of these troops and their families?
>> look, we know and i mentioned earlier, you know, so a lot of troops coming in. we know that the uso here at atlanta jackson international airport, they will be. >> it's always so great to see ru re-unions of family members and these returning troops. thanks so much, george. appreciate that in atlanta's heartsfield airport. there are more than a million active duty u.s. troops searching in the united states and around the world. >> hi. i'm captain charisse ellis here in kuwait. i want to spend -- send a special greetings for thanksgiving to my beautiful children desiree and jalynn in the hometown of pembroke pines, florida. i miss you, and i can't wait to see you. love you.
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