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joe biden saw it all. delaware stunned three seed north carolina. the blue hens were down by eight points at halftime, but vowing to win, 78-69. delaware moves on to the sweet 16 where they will take on kentucky in the regional semifinals, on saturday. that's it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues. fantastic news in the fight against cancer. moments ago, a study revealed over the course of the next decade, the number of survivors will rise. we'll tell you why. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. tension at the supreme court. what today's hearing on gay marriage reveals about the justices' thinking. plus, brand-new pictures of the kennedys, behind closed doors. and one image, pretty eerie. and stunning video of a bus driver's close call.
and hello, good to be with you here on this wednesday. i want to begin with something, this is just fantastic news. this impacts the lives of every single american. each year, 1.7 million people are diagnosed with cancer. and on top of that, 577,000 will die of the disease. but now, released moments ago, a cancer study has some good news. over the course of the next ten years, the number of people surviving their cancer diagnosis is projected to increase by 31%. folks, that is 18 million cancer survivors. if i may, hallelujah to that. let's talk about this here off the top. good news here. dr. charles daley, chief of surgical oncology and alex park is here as well.
we're talking to alex because "time's" cover story, take a look, tackles in depth looking at cancer, the dream teams, this sort of team effort in paving a path to find this cure. and so we're going to talk about that, but, doctor, i have to begin with you. if i may, on a personal level, i hear you're a survivor yourself? >> i am. i had my two-year doctor's appointment this morning and it went well. >> congratulations to you. who isn't touched by cancer whether it is yourself or someone you know and love? let me begin with this study here, it was embargoed until a little bit ago. you know a little bit about it. the conclusion is that cancer survivors, they're on the rise in the course of the next ten years. why? >> well, i think you've seen now 4 million more people compared to a decade ago living, you know, after cancer diagnosis. and i think it is a combination of better prevention, finding tumors in an earlier stage, and then better treatment plan for people. >> i know i feel like i'm
excited about this. are you excited about this? >> it is absolutely phenomenal. i think, you know, i've been doing cancer treatment for 20 years. and when i first started, it was -- it was hard to go to work every day. and now it is just exciting. every day you hear about new preventions, new trials, new drugs, new treatments, it is a great time actually to be involved in cancer therapy. >> i imagine your line of work isn't an easy one, but good you can be more excited working in oncology and cancer -- and surgical oncology at emory. alex, to you, you read this article, it talks about scientists and doctors at the top of their game forming dream teams and the crux of the piece is it is a team effort really now to improve the path to cancer research. why is that? >> well, if you think about it, ever since the 1970s when the war on cancer was first declared, the goal was to get to this point, get to where we have people surviving five years out,
and with good treatments that would help them to live full and normal lives. but now that we're here, really the challenge is how we help these people to continue to survive as healthy individuals. that's what this piece was about, looking at how do we change the way we think about cancer care, to take advantage of the fact that it is no longer just about breast cancer or prostate cancer or lung cancer, but what are the biologic processes that drive all of them and perhaps we can have better treatments that help patients not just with one type of cancer about but many types of cancer. >> when you look at this study, it talks about different kinds of cancers and different surv e survivabili survivabilities. is one cancer more curable than another? >> certainly. certainly things like breast and prostate now there are many people who are cured and living with disease. yet on the other hand, i had neck cancer that was an hpv virus that caused my tumor and those are, because of the hpv,
actually, more curable, but then you look at tumors like pancreatic cancer, liver cancer, that we still are doing very poorly with. and we need to understand -- we need to understand that as your other guest said, we need to look at the whole picture here. we're gaining on many of these things, but there are still a lot of cancers we're not doing very well at. >> final question to you, you said you've been in this line of work for more than two decades. for people watching, what really is the takeaway? >> i think the takeaway is there is going to be more and more people surviving with cancer. and we worry about just getting them cured. but as physicians and -- >> worry about getting them cured? >> that's what we want to get to. >> of course. >> and when we get them cured, we do the -- many are saying okay, see you later, but a lot of people have a lot of concerns, whether it be social, sexual, dry mouth, there are so many chronic problems that --
scars of any variety from cancer care that we don't pay a lot of attention to. i think as people are living with these issues, we need to spend more time understanding them, documenting them, and moving and helping these people. >> dr. charles daley, emory university, great place to get treatment. i know folks who have been there myself. thank you so much. and, of course, alice, thank you as well. now, to the highest court in the land. as it takes on what could be the biggest cultural turning point of this generation, whether to legalize same-sex marriage. and today there are better hints as to which way the u.s. supreme court may be going. and you can hear this for yourself, moments ago, the audio from inside the courtroom was released. we're going to bring it to you as soon as we possibly can. i promise we're work on turning it around for you. yesterday, the nine justices, they analyzed the state proposition that bans same sex marriage. we talked about it yesterday, prop 8 out of california.
today they analyzed the federal law, the defense of marriage act, otherwise known as doma, which defines marriage as strictly between a man and a woman. and after these arguments ended this morning, same-sex marriage opponents said it looks bad for his side. >> it appears now that doma is very shaky. and while we stand for the defense of marriage as between one man and one woman, it is quite clear that that definition on the federal level is at great risk, likely by 5-4. >> at the heart of this case is the story of these women. it is a story that spans 40 years. this is how long edie windsor was with her partner clara spyer. they lived in the state of new york, one of the nine states
that recognized same-sex marriage. when spyer died, windsor learned she had to pay the sum of money, this $363,000 in estate taxes from an intheritance from spyer. windsor says if her spouse had been a man, there would have been zero tax, one of the benefits like social security, that same-sex spouses do not get because of doma. >> when my beautiful sparkling thea died four years ago, i was overcome with grief. within a month i was hospitalized with a heart attack, and that is kind of common. it is usually looked at as broken heart syndrome. in the midst of my grief, i realized the federal government was treating us as strangers and i paid a humongous estate tax and sold a lot of stuff to do it. and it wasn't easy. i live on a fixed income and it wasn't easy. many people ask me why get married? i was 77, she was 75.
and maybe we were older than that at that point. but the fact is that everybody treated us as different. it turns out marriage is different. and i asked a number of long range couples, gay couples, who they got married, i asked them, was it different the next morning? and the answer is always yes. it is a huge difference. okay. when our marriage appeared in the new york times, we heard from literally hundreds of people, i mean, playmates and schoolmates and colleagues and friends and relatives, all congratulating us and sending love, because we were married. so it is a magic word for anybody who doesn't understand why we want it, and why we need it, okay, it is magic. >> that was edie windsor. here is senior legal analyst jeff toobin.
and let me show you this tweet that we're now seeing from this scotus log. justice kennedy here on the highest court, here is the tweet, final updates go to 80% likely to strike down doma. justice kennedy suggests it violates states' rights or other justices see as gay rights. so states' rights. why are you chuckling? >> well, you know, this is the influence of nate silver and 538.com that everything can be reduced to a percentage. >> numbers. >> 80% chance. actually, that sounds about right to me to tell you the truth. >> does it? why? >> i've never reduced to a percentage like this. for a very simple reason. anthony kennedy repeatedly said during the oral arguments, why can doma, this federal law, tell the states how to define marriage? isn't that a state function? don't we rely on states, not the
federal government, to define what marriage is? he saw it very much, it appeared as a states' rights question. the four democratic appointees, justice rouge ba all seemed to see it as a matter of discrimination against gay people, but the five of them together were apparently against doma. and if they agree, presumably on kennedy's states' rights theory, doma's gone. >> doma's gone. when will there be a decision on this case? do we know? >> we never know exactly. almost certainly the last week in june. >> okay. so, again, this could, as you point out, based upon justice kennedy's questioning be more of a states' rights issue and less about the rights and same-sex marriage. >> correct. but, you know, the lawyers for edie windsor know a win is a
win. if they strike down doma, they'll be happy in matter what the theory behind it is. >> okay, jeff toobin, thank you so much again today, talking about what's going on at the nation's highest court. now to some of the hottest stories in a flash, rapid fire. roll it. >> [ bleep ]. >> police dash cam video caught this frightening crash on camera. firefighter barry kron was tossed about 25 feet when a vehicle lost control on an icy bridge. this is dayton, ohio. look at that, left-hand side, you see this, it triggered this chain reaction, causing a truck here to hit a firefighter, slamming him into the guardrail. kron was hospitalized and is in serious condition. in steubenville, ohio, an online petition here getting all kinds of traction. it calls for the firing of the high school football coach, already it has racked up 40,000 signatures. and this is all happening while two teenage girls appeared in juvenile court today accused of
making online threats against another girl after the football players were convicted of raping her. grand jury is now looking into whether other people should be charged as well. the school superintendent says firing the football coach is not an option until all the legal processes have concluded. a view echoed by a number of people who live in steubenville. >> go through the system. the system always works. and i think they ought to just let the grand jury handle it and deal with -- let the officers and the courts deal with the situation. and just incredible video here out of eastern china as a bus driver save his own life and his passengers. watch with me, the bus carrying 26 passengers, gosh, a lamppost smashes right through the windshield, he's okay. amazingly you see him, sort of twitching, eventually able to stop the bus, suffered a
ruptured spleen. those other passengers, look at them get up, a-okay. this massive landslide, whidby island in washington state. neighbors said they heard a noise, sounded like thunder. seven homes here, look at this, threatened, including these two. at one point we're told folks walked right up to the edge here to get a look at this landslide, up close and personal. a little more about that next hour. the last time prince harry visited america, some racy pictures surfaced of the royal partying in vegas. well, guess what? in may, he's coming back. paying a visit to this guy. >> i'm thrilled he's going to come. he wants to come and see the destruction himself firsthand. and he wants to be helpful. and i'm going to be spending the entire day with prince harry. and so, believe me, nobody is going to get naked. >> prince harry will likely be
stopping through new jersey to tour the damage from hurricane sandy and as chris christie said, he'll be keeping an eye on him. decades old pictures of the kennedys just released, photos showing the former first family behind closed doors. one image brings back some pretty tough memories for the family and for the nation. we'll share those with you. plus, scandal and second chances. hot topics panel will weigh in on the latest public figure who could have been fixed by his public apology. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you think? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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his 40th birthday at the controls of his piper saratoga. joining me now is david gergen, cnn's senior political analyst. david gergen, wow. i know they're poignant. this is your word, the poignancy of photos here. with the pictures of john john, i want to talk about the last one here in a moment, you remember these days. >> i do. >> 50 years ago. and i know what strikes me when you look at some of these isn't necessarily the glamour of the kennedys, it is the formality. look at dad wearing a coat and tie and mom, of course, talking about jackie kennedy, certainly a different era, right? >> well, they were a glamorous couple and they maintained sort of standards of the time. you -- presidents in those days did wear ties all the time, all the way through ronald reagan and never went into the oval office without a coat and tie on. and the kennedys were like that. their glamour, i think partly came because they had this sort of european style about them, people looked up to in those
days, a french overlay, if you would, and the pictures are so poignant. that -- especially the -- go back to the plane. look at the horse. the horse pictures here, that horse, i believe, that's the same horse. is that there? yeah, they're putting -- that's paul fay, a pal of the president's, they went to -- they were in the navy together. they both are on pt boats -- >> here is caroline. caroline on the horse, on the pony. this is what -- i read this today, david gergen, for all the neil diamond fans this is where that song "sweet caroline" came from. neil diamond saw the pictures here, these pictures of caroline kennedy riding the pony and that's what inspired him for "sweet caroline". >> it was such a luck of joy on her face in these photos and that pony, actually, macaroni, was -- >> pony macaroni. >> used to keep it on the white house grounds, roaming the south
lawn. and it was a gift from lyndon johnson, the vice president. and if you see this, the saddle being put up there right now, it is a very elaborate saddle arrangement, came from morocco. and it was -- the kennedys made a state visit there. here is caroline riding that pony and she just had such joy and there is john john, you know, remembered so fondly in so many pictures from the white house itself, it is wonderful to see these photos released. >> but then -- >> these clips. >> to juxtapose this joy with the tragedy that would befall john kennedy jr. when you look at the -- him in marine one, it is a littleerie, is it not? >> it is. and, you know, because -- it was just 36 years later he went down himself. it brings to mind how much tragedy in the air did befall the whole kennedy family. if you think of jack kennedy,
his oldest brother went down in the war, when his plane exploded on a bombing mission. he was the one who was supposed to be the president, that's what the father had always thought, that joe would be the president. along comes jack kennedy, he also loses -- jack kennedy loses his sister in a plane crash, in the 1940s, she went down with her husband, a big romantic couple went down. and later on, teddy went down in a plane, and was badly hurt, but the pilot was killed, as was another passenger. and so -- and then, of course, many years later along comes his son. so you think about john kennedy's life, jack kennedy, president kennedy's life, he had at least four members of his family who were killed in the air. >> you've heard it described as the kennedy curse. but just to look at -- >> the kennedy curse. >> david gergen, thank you so much. >> thanks, brooke. >> 50 years ago, back at camp david. appreciate it. now parents and chauffeurs
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all right, parents, for you moms and dads on the go, this could be the new must have feature for keeping your car clean. check it out. viola. a built in vacuum. this is what's inside honda's new minivan. the company is showing off the new york auto show this week and that is where we find maggie lake, live for us on the floor. i hear you have a little demo ready. so, maggie lake, take it away. >> i do, brooke. it is funny, we're here and there are all these really cool high tech features being demoed, a show going on behind me. sometimes it is the simplest idea that is genius. if you're like me and your kids,
every time you get in a car and you give them a snack, they dump it all over the floor, do they every get it in their mouth? the honda has a new vacuum in the odyssey. pull it out, flip the switch and there you go. cleans up the cheerios. how is that? and listen, you can stretch this thing all the way to the front seat, but not only that, it pulls all the way out. has a hose long enough that you can help out your neighbors. i know the moms are going to love it. i'm thinking if you're at a tailgate, brooke, and some friends that spill the potato chips, you could be the winner. this will come in handy and certainly has with a lot of us at the auto show, brooke. >> it is the hot new item. so, maggie, vacuums aside, what else do you see there as far as cool technologies? >> yeah. let's talk about the high end. there is a lot of that. i spoke to the people over at ford, who unveiled the concept, $50,000 for someone who can come
up with an -- they opened it up to third party developers, for fuel efficiency. if you can come up with the best app for fuel efficiency, they're pushing the envelope on technology. people want their cars to be just like their smartphones they walk around. they want it to talk to them and interestingly, brooke, fuel efficiency really important to women and to millennials, those are the people buying the most cars right now, ford tells me. >> interesting. guys don't care about fuel efficiency, apparently? just the ladies and the millenni millennials? >> well, yeah. they care about it, maybe not as practical, though. >> maggie lake, thank you very much. just in to us at cnn, we're getting some new documents just released on the tucson, arizona, mass shooting that wounded congresswoman gabby giffords and killed several others. find out why the shooter was stopped by the police hours before he opened fire. that's next. easter's here, and i'm with janette talking about
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january 11th -- excuse me, january 8th, 2011, a horrible saturday morning and a shopping center just outside of tucson. remember this? >> hello? >> hello, 911, there is a security matter at safeway. >> what do you need? >> i'm at oracle. gabrielle giffords, people and gabrielle giffords were hit. >> congresswoman gabrielle giffords was critically shot in her head, 12 others wounded, six people died. more than two years later, the peop pima county sheriff's department is releasing new information, hundreds of pages of police reports kept sealed by a federal judge until today. and brian todd is with us now from washington. he and his producer have been combing through all the documents. and, brian, what are you learning about specifically the day of the shooting, but also what are you learning about jared lee loughner, now currently serving seven consecutive life sentences for what he did?
>> we're learning a lot of riveting new detail, nugget type information about the day of the shootings, about jared lee loughner, his demeanor the day of the shootings. 2700 pages of documents released by the pima county sheriff's department today. they give the details, as far as loughner is concerned, one account is from alan foreiny, a officer from the arizona fish and game department. he describes stopping loughner at a traffic stop, just a couple of hours before the shootings. this was for running a red light. that traffic stop we did know about. but in one document, he describes loughner's behavior to a detective and fbi agent, he said he started lecturing loughner about his driving and listen to this detail, then i told him i said i'm not going to write you a citation for this and when i said that to him, his face got kind of screwed up and he started to cry. that struck me as a little odd. so i asked him if he was okay? and he said, yeah, i'm okay, i
just had a rough time. and i really thought i was going to get a ticket and i'm really glad you're not. brooke, that leads to all sorts of questions, was he on the verge of a breakdown or something like that, but riveting detail about that traffic stop and loughner's demeanor. >> there is also, brian, there is an account from one of the officers who responded to the giffords shooting and ended up driving loughner away. this is the quote. while en route he managed to work himself out of the seat belt and was moving around the back seat freely. that officer is also quoted as saying, mr. loughner stated nobody else knew about the shooting. is that information new to you, brian? >> it was new to me when i saw it. our producers, we have a team of producers combing through this. none of us had seen that particular detail before, that he worked himself out of the seat belt. you can assume he, of course, had cuffs on at that point. and was probably not able to move around quite as freely as that might indicate, but, still, a very chilling indication there
of just some of the detail and what he was saying in the car on the way from the scene, things like that, the fact he was so, i guess, you know, squeamish or squirmy that he got out of the seat belt, and that had to have at least caused some pause for the officers involved there. >> brian todd, thank you. coming up next, my hot topics panel. first is david petraeus says he's sorry, how does america decide who to forgive and who not to forget when it comes to leaders and politicians? plus, a new study shows women are better decisionmakers than men. do we really think that way? and did a college lesson go a tad too far when a professor told students to stomp on a piece of paper with the word jesus written on it. my panelists are standing by. they're next. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all? it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪
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all right, let's rock and roll. time to hit the hot topics, stories you'll be talking about around the dinner table tonight. first up, the former head of the cia, four-star general here, david petraeus. he may just turn out to be the latest example of how scandal and second chances often go hand and hand. retired general committed to speak at the university of southern california before his undoing and did not cancel. instead, he said this. >> i'm also keenly aware that the reason for my recent journey was my own doing. so please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the cia and caused such pain for my family, friends and supporters. >> you remember the story, he
stepped down, back in november, after admitting an extramarital affair with his biographer paula bro broadwell. could this be the beginning of his relaunch. joining me now, political science professor mark lamont hill, cultural and political critic makayla angela davis, michael reagan, president of the reagan legacy foundation, and psychologist paula bloom. so, welcome, all of you. makayla, let me hear from you. just in hearing general petraeus talking last night, by this sort of public apology, does that mean he's back? >> well, i think every jorany sta starts with an apology. what we'll look to is what happens next. we have seen certainly former president bill clinton go through something extremely public, very close, and his legacy is determined by what he did next. his humanitarian work, his supporting his wife.
i think we need to watch what happens after the apology, and that will really determine the legacy. >> michael, do you agree? do you think it is this public apology and this sort of time period where we see how they respond, you know, sort of now that they have fallen, the great redemption story that americans love? >> it was public because the media was covering what he was going to say, the first time out for general petraeus. this is a man who was looking even at the presidency of the united states once he came out of the military. he's trying to rebuild his career, if you will. bill clinton did set the standard here. bill clinton was forgiven. again, why? because of the next thing he did. john edwards, i don't think anyone will forgive john edwards. why? because his wife was dying of cancer when all these things were going on. weiner and what he did, he's trying to rehabilitate himself, he's able to, in fact, do that. but we do tend to forgive people who want to, in fact, apologize
to us. but i will tell you this, i think if you asked the women in that room if they'll accept the apology, you'll find a different answer than from the men. >> interesting question. let me go to a man, mark lamont hill, how do we determine who to forgive and who to forget? because michael brings up the anthony weiners of the world and mark sanford. we know what happened when he took that sort of famous hike on the appalachian trail. now this -- i think she's now his fiancee, this argentine woman and he's won his primary in his state of south carolina. what do we forgive and who do we not? >> i think some of it comes down to not whether you forgive them or not, whether you like them or not. anthony weiner, it is not that we don't forgive him, it was just so creepy. we forgive him, we don't want anything to do with him. but then on top of the creep factor, there is the question of how sympathetic can we be with the person that did something bad. in the case of john edwards who can relate? his wife was dying. this guy is cheating, making babies, still in his mind his crazy mind still thought he
would be attorney general even after he bowed out. i think we have to as a nation only accept apologies, but accept real apologies. the problem in today's politics is that too often people say, i'm sorry you misunderstood that crazy racist thing i said, i'm sorry you're upset by it. a real apology is i did something wrong, here is why i was wrong, here is how it hurt you and here is how i'm going to make it better. >> it is the authenticity, right? >> that's what i was thinking. there are so many nonapology apologies, i'm so sorry you were offended by that, that's not -- the apology, basically, the step is that, one, you have to acknowledge you did something wrong, what he did, and then acknowledge the pain you caused someone else and take ownership. and then say what am i going to do about it? i agree that it is really about your actions. the words of the first step, actions are what really matter. >> if i could jump in for a moment, listen, are you apologizing for what you did? or apologizing that you got
caught? >> great point. it is a great point. hopefully it is the former. let me move on. i want more time to talk about decision-making. a new study is making waves saying the ladies are better decisionmakers than men. let's talk about that. ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is!
has been working her way up the ranks at one of the most macho of workplaces, think men in black, suits and sunglasses, guns tucked under the jackets, wire in one ear, the secret service. it has been almost one year since some of those macho men were caught hanging out with prostitutes in their hotel in colombia while preparing for a presidential visit. now the secret service is getting a new boss. it is julia pierson. she's about to be sworn in. she's about to become the first woman to lead the agency in its 148-year history. and, that got us thinking today. there is also a new study, i hear some -- hmm -- new study that found women take a completely different approach decision-making, taking other people's interests and views into account while men would rather not maybe rock the boat. that suggests that women make better decisions, again, according to this one study. and they're better leaders because of it. i want to begin with you, i know you had secret service agents around you, as you're growing
up. let me start with you. do you think, had there been a woman in charge of this sort of macho group a year ago, do you think those men would have behaved as badly in cartagena? >> yes, absolutely. >> you do? >> macho men or macho women. i had women part of my secret service detail in the 1980s for eight years. there is macho men. there is macho women. they're out there. now, it may look good to have a woman up there, but the reality is, you know, it all comes down to jobs. it all comes down to performance and what have you. so, you know, we're going to find out in the future if indeed she's a good leader or bad leader, if this is a pick because she's a woman or they picked the right person and the right person doesn't matter if they're male or female, it is as long as it is the right person at the top. >> i strongly disagree. >> i do too. >> makayla, go ahead. >> i think there is skill sets that women have -- women are in constant negotiation all the
time, and maneuvering things that men don't have to in the board room and at home, and so i think that her womanhood and the skills that do get developed because of this negotiation can make her super qualified in ways that men don't even begin to think about. so, you know, i went on wikipedia to see it say director for her. this is a big move. i think her womanhood, i think -- i take -- i feel a way at certain times and people don't want to use the strength of being a woman as an asset. >> go helahead, paula. >> i don't feel, any one person -- there may be women not good at this and men who are really good at this. there are some gender differences, some gender differences. when we're talking about women in corporations, there is such a movement toward social media and relationship building and how that relates to business, it makes sense to me that women who
tend to have some greater strengths in that are going to be able to manage those things good. this is also cheryl sandberg, we need women sitting at the table, not just because we need more women, but because women bring incredible strength. >> what about in politics? mark lamont hill, final word on this. let's say you're in the situation room and there is a woman in charge and let's say you're in a situation where you have to put the finger on the button, i think about me, you know, sometimes i get so much choice, get a little overwhelmed, maybe that's just me, not women in general, would that be a concern as a woman, as a decisionmaker? we do take so much into consideration. >> this is all part of how we frame men versus women. we say women are so emotional. that was the thing against hillary clinton. do we want a woman with her finger on the button? who is more emotional than george bush. they tried to kill my daddy, so i'm going to launch an illegal war for four years. men are emotional too. our emotions are called anger. that's the only difference. >> it is about picking the right
person. men or women. >> hold on. let me finish this point. the other point here is that -- >> it is a strong man or strong woman to say that an unqualified person shouldn't be -- no one is suggesting the person should be unqualified, but apples to apples, if a man is qualified and a woman is qualified, diversity matters. we should have qualified women because they bring a different skill set to the table. men are socialized to be stubborn, obstinate, rude, we can change that. that's the reality we need to change and women can lead the way. >> i have to interrupt as a woman. i want to move along. i want to talk about what is happening in florida. this huge flap. the question is, did a college let them go too far when a professor told students to write the word jesus on a piece of paper, think about it and then stomp on it. a student got kicked out of the class for not wanting to do it. we'll talk about that next. [ male announcer ] it's red lobster's lobsterfest
the governor of florida is now stepping in, demanding answers from florida atlantic university over this bizarre incident. here is a student describing exactly what this professor asked his class to do. >> he said, everybody write jesus on in bold letters. what i did was i wrote jesus, just like this. and then afterwards, he said,
everybody put it on the floor. so we took it out, put it on the floor. and he had us all stand up and once we were standing up, he said stomp on it. and that's when i picked up the paper from the floor and put it right back on the table. >> the lesson, taught by this professor, d'andre pool, was to illustrate the power of symbols. you could say it works too well. governor rick scott was so outraged, he fired off a letter to the university, which read in part, quote, the professor's lesson was offensive and even intolerant to christians. and those of all faiths who deserve to be respected as americans entitled to religious freedom. that angry backlash forced the school to now issue this apology. >> on behalf of all of us here at fau, we are deeply sorry for any hurt this incident might have caused our students, people in the community and beyond. as an institution of higher education, we embrace academic freedom. but with that comes a level of responsibility which we did not
uphold. based on the offensive nature of this exercise, we will not use it again. it was insensitive and hurtful and we are truly sorry. please know we have not taken any disciplinary action against any student regarding this matter. >> let me open it up to all of you and to the professor on the panel, to you first here. and my first question is why exactly again did the professor do this and it was to discuss the importance of symbols in culture and many students would hesitate before they stomped on this paper with the word jesus on it. they wanted to discuss that. professor hill, good lesson, bad execution? >> yeah, i mean, let me say this, i get in trouble. i do not endorse this activity. i would not do this activity. anything i'm going to say following this, i still don't endorse t however, i do understand what he was trying to do. what he could have done is say everybody write jesus on the paper, how many would you feel comfortable stomping on it. that would convey how powerful the symbol it.
it is just a word on a paper but it means so much to who we are. but to ask students to get out of their chairs and stomp on jesus, it is way too far. i don't think it violates civil liberties, but i do think it is a bad activity and deeply insensitive. i wouldn't do it. and anyone else out there, i recommend you don't do it either. >> okay. i'm told i'm out of time. i hate this. i -- i had more time. that's where we have to leave it. thank you so, so much. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> pleasure. still ahead, dramatic new video, just in of this massive -- massive landslide, this is washington state. home owners have been told to get out. chad myers shows us the danger for the area next. easter's here, and i'm with janette talking about
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getting word the majority of drug busts there involve americans. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. tension at the u.s. supreme court. what today's hearing on gay marriage revealed about the justices' thinking. plus, as george zimmerman awaits trial, his brother sends a racially-charged tweet about trayvon martin. and brand-new pictures of the kennedys behind closed doors. and one image, pretty eerie. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. dramatic new video coming into cnn now from seattle. take a look. a huge section of earth just gave way early this morning, sounded like thunder according to people who live in the area, leaving just about a dozen homes
at whidbey island teetering on the brink. one home was damaged. chad myers has been watching this for us here. how did this happen? >> there hasn't been that much rain in the past couple of weeks, but there has been a lot of rain in the pacific northwest all winter. that may have had something to do with it. there may have been a water main break as well. they're saying something about the size of two football fields, literally, let go. people live on the edge of the cliff, they knew that. the pictures you're seeing there where there are no trees, where that land is scoured away, that's where the land fell, fell down on to the roadway below, which had some homes on it. and then spilled out into the ocean, making a little bit of a bump there out, a little peninsula where it used to be a straight shoreline right there. but this guy here said he used to have about 60 feet between him and the cliff. now he's got 30 feet. and the fall is still happening. it is getting -- water, dirt, mud, still going down a couple of feet, every couple of hours.
they're getting people out of there. whidbey island north of seattle, ledge wood is the community if you want to take a look at it. these people are scrambling, trying to get their stuff out. i'm surprised the authorities are letting them anywhere near their homes, to even get their stuff out, brooke. >> i saw the pictures of people walking along that ledge. chad myers, thank you very much. from washington state there, now to the highest court in the land as it takes on what could become the biggest cultural turning point of this generation. that being whether to legalize same-sex marriage. today's focus, this federal law, the defense of marriage act, or doma for short, the acronym, defines marriage as strictly between a man and a woman. there are more hints here as which way the justices, chief justice could go, and you'll hear the audio for yourself. we're going to get to that in a moment from inside these oral arguments today. first, let me hear from an opponent of same-sex marriage who talked just after the
arguments ended today. >> it appears now that doma is very shaky, and while we stand for the defense of marriage as between one man and one woman, it is quite clear that that definition on the federal level is at great risk, likely by 5-4. >> no doubt, that is grand news to this woman here on the right side of your screen. 83-year-old edie windsor. this is her case. her own case, that is before the u.s. supreme court right now. look at the crush of media today. windsor, her story is this. she got married to her love of four years, her name was thea spyer, in 2007. and they lived in new york, one of nine states that recognized their same-sex marriage. when spyer died, windsor had to pay a chunk of change. she had to pay $360,000, plus,
in estate taxes and so her point is this, that if her wife had been a man, had been a husband instead, there would have been no tax she had to pay. that's the benefit she lost because of doma and she spoke right after today's hearing. >> i felt we were very respected and i think it is going to be good. >> she thinks it is going to be good. we have to wait and see. jeff toobin, joining me again. as we mentioned a minute ago, we now finally have that audio from inside the oral arguments today. let me play this and then we'll get you to go through it with me. this is the exchange between justice ruth bader ginsburg and the attorney for those against same-sex marriage. roll it. >> the issue of same-sex marriage certainly implicates profound and deeply held views on both sides of the issue. but the legal question on the
merits before this court is actually quite narrow. on the assumption that states have the constitutional option, either to define marriage in traditional terms, or to recognize same-sex marriages, or to adopt a compromise like civil unions, does the federal government have the same flexibility or must the federal government simply borrow the term in state law? i would submit the basic principles of federalism suggest that as long as the federal government defines those terms solely for purposes of federal law that the federal government has the choice to adopt a constitutionally permissible definition or to borrow the terms of the statute. >> the problem is that it would totally thwart the states' decision that there is a marriage between two people. for the federal government to then come in and say, no social
security benefits, your spouse is very sick, but you can't get leave, people -- one might well ask what kind of marriage is this? >> okay, jeff toobin. is she making the states' rights point that justice kennedy was making as well? what are you hearing there? >> she is. and, you know, it is so interesting, the questions the justices ask are often campaign speeches to try to get their colleagues on board. that speech was very much a pitch to justice kennedy, because justice kennedy is someone who believes very strongly in states' rights. he believes that there are areas of state power, that the federal government has to stay away from. and in this argument, he expressed repeatedly that he thinks marriage is one of those areas that belongs to the states. states make the rules on marriage, and doma is an
interference with states' rights and thus unconstitutional, and the four democratic appointees, ruth ginsburg, the most senior, wanted to try to bring him along and that question was a way of trying to bring him along on that. >> it is interesting you talk about how it is a campaign pitch. just because you write the book on the supreme court decisions, explain to us who don't follow it as closely, what happens. now that they heard the oral arguments before they all decide, how do they sort of sit individually, parse through all of this, and it is ultimately the chief justice, correct? >> well, what happens is every week when there are arguments, arguments monday, tuesday and wednesday this week, on friday morning, they meet in the conference room of the chief justice. and this is the holy of holy of supreme court moments, no secretary, no law clerks, the nine justices, and they go around the table and vote. if the chief justice is in the majority, he assigns which
justice writes the opinion. if he's not in the majority, the senior, the longest tenured associate justice in the majority makes the assignment. but that's not the end of the process. they then start circulating opinion. sometimes in that perferocess, justices change their mind. that's that happened in the health care case. chief justice roberts changed his mind. it is only when the decision is announced that it is final and since we're very late, really in the term for a big case, almost certainly we won't get a result in the doma case or the proposition 8 case from yesterday until the last week in june. >> okay. jeff toobin, thank you, as always, appreciate it so much. now 15 years ago today, men who were struggling to get things going in the bedroom were given a beacon of hope in the form of that little blue pill. i'm talking about viagra. today marks the anniversary of the fda approving the impotence drug.
last year alone there were 8 million viagra prescriptions written in the u.s. so let's talk about it, shall we? let's go to new york here, the host of hln's dr. drew on call, dr. drew pinsky. so here is what i -- i think this is fascinating about viagra itself, this was a drug originally tested for heart problems, and then sort of suddenly, you know that didn't go so well, but the men in the study weren't exactly parting with their little pills and here you have it? >> they were noticing something. that's also what happened in medicine, serendipity determines the therapeutic use of medication very often. i have no relationship with the viagra manufacturers, of merck, but i did do a campaign for merck years ago where we were trying to raise awareness that erectile dysfunction is a sign of heart disease. so it is important to remember, as people are expecting to stay sexually active longer and start
having dysfunction, medical problems and hormonal issues and vascular diseases are the number one problem affecting sexual function. so, please, people, if you have a problem with performance, before you reach for a pill, before you think it is a psychological problem, talk to your physician. it is really an important message here. >> okay. i want to talk about the women here, dr. drew. because look at the wall street journal, below the fold is the headline, oh, my, that dirty book sold 70 million copies. i'm talking about 50 shades of grey, 70 million copies. is this the women's viagra? it seems to me that for women, it is much different. it is like psychological versus the physical, yes? >> that's -- remember, the viagra only affects erectile function, doesn't affect libido. women are saying this -- 50 shades of grey opened up libido, it opened up creativity. i had problems with this book. this is about a woman who becomes -- signs a contract to be a sex slave with a guy who was sexually abused by his business partner when he was a
child. it is an unbelievably pathological situation. but far be it for me to criticize -- >> 70 million women. people love it. >> i'm all for it. >> what about the people who don't exactly need -- back to viagra, people don't need viagra, still the men take it for a little more va-va-vroom. does it work? >> yes, it does. this is meant for people with medical disorders causing problems with ed. it is not meant for recreational use. so, like with any medication, you're only putting yourself in harm's way. brooke, let me tell you an interesting story, when this drug first came out, i remember the day it came out ,, i had me at my office waiting. the female partners were not happy about this. they're, like, thank goodness that is all over it, let's move on with our relationship and we had to get them back in the game, which required all sorts of hormonal and environmental and biological manipulations.
physical intimacy is an important part of emotional intimacy as well. >> you've been at this for many years. bigger picture at the sex lives of americans, how has it changed, or evolved over the last decade or so? >> i would say there are two or three things that have evolved. one is in the last ten or 15 years, surviving abusive childhoods, destroyed families affected our ability to be effective in relationships in our adult life. people are having children at terribly young ages and then are unable -- that is to solve their problems but it compounds the problem. and they're unable to sustain relationships. the other issue is we're just getting older, and so these medical issues, these biological and hormonal issues are really stepping to the forefront now and there are solutions. so, again, be aware that it could be a sign of medical disorders, and be aware there are solutions to help you maintain the connection. >> okay. dr. drew, thank you so much. don't forget to watch dr. drew on his show, hln tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern and he'll also, of course, be all over the jodi arias trial. now to this, border security
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andrew becker, contributing editor at the daily beast.com. andrew, how did you get to this conclusion about the drug arrests at the border? >> well, at the center for investigative reporting where i work we had a team of journalists, another reporter researcher, data analyst, that combed through 80,000 rows of drug seizure data we had received from u.s. customs and border protection and specifically the border patrol. we had submitted a request to have a better understanding of who was actually bringing drugs into the country or who at least was getting caught with those drugs. and the data just really jumped out at us. we found that three out of four people that the border patrol bust with drugs are actually united states citizens. >> three out of four busted are americans. and so these americans who are caught at the border, are they smuggling drugs for personal
use, or are they caught for trafficking drugs? >> it is really a mix. the majority are definitely getting caught with small amounts. and oftentimes they're getting caught at immigration, traffic checkpoints at the border patrol sets up. usually inland a few miles up to 60, 70 miles or more inland from the actual border. and in an effort to both check people's immigration status to make sure that they are authorized to be in the united states and secondly they also often check to see if people are transporting contraband. the data we have is to a certain extent an imperfect set of data, or incomplete portrait of what is happening. half the time the border patrol which they catch drugs, they don't necessarily catch anyone with the drugs. there is some sense that who is bringing those drugs in is still
not a complete -- the conventional wisdom is certainly that mexican-based drug trafficking organizations dominate bringing drugs into the country. it is just they're getting them often into the hands of u.s. citizens who are bringing them deep near the country. >> which just reading your article on daily beast, it changes -- it is not necessarily the image one thinks of, one conjures up when they picture people getting busted along the mexican border. who is to blame of putting that image of the drug mules in our heads, do you think? >> you know, it is probably a variety of folks. what we specifically looked at or a variety of different reasons why, what we specifically looked at were press releases from customs and border protection and again specifically the border patrol. when we first started this project, we were just using press releases to try to get an understanding of who was bringing what into the country and who was getting caught. we quickly realized that that was just painting a very -- just
a very narrow picture of what was actually happening. we went back and we actually analyzed 2,000 press releases from the border patrol. scraped them from their website and did an analysis and we found that disproportionately mexican nationals were being highlighted in this press release, rather than -- 38% of the time it was a mexican versus 38% of the time a u.s. citizen. >> andrew becker, something we thought interesting enough to point out today on the show. appreciate it very much. your piece in the daily beast this morning. now to this, the death of trayvon martin made national headlines, but now there is a new twist here. george zimmerman is charged with the murder of the unarmed teen. but it is his brother who is making headlines today, because of a controversial tweet comparing trayvon martin to a teen murder suspect. cnn legal analyst sunny hostin talked to zimmerman's brother. we'll learn what he told her next.
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there is no end to the outrage over the killing of trayvon martin by george zim american. today, there is a new twist. let me show you what george zimmerman's brother has tweeted. take a good look from the bottom here of this tweet. these are the pictures, one shows trayvon martin and the other shows one of the teenagers accused of shooting that 13-month-old baby in the head in
brunswick, georgia. the pictures show both teenagers flipping the bird. now, this brother here went on to quote what the baby's mother says the suspect said to her, and the threat trayvon martin allegedly made against george zimmerman the night martin was shot. sunny hostin is on the case. robert zimmerman has been one of george zimmerman's staunchest defenders. you just talked to him. what did he say? why did he do this? >> yeah, i talked to him for about 40 minutes. anyone that knows robert zimmerman and has spoken to him knows he's very passionate about his family, very, very supportive of his brother. and he said he understands the tweet may have been offensive to many. he apologizes for it. he also mentions that he understands that this is still a very sensitive topic, but what he really takes issue with is that he believes that the media has unfairly portrayed this case. he said to me that he feels that
the picture of trayvon martin that we just showed was trayvon's digital signature to the world, because it was trayvon martin himself that placed that photograph out there. and that is what he says he meant by that. he seems to be extremely frustrated by the way he says the media has sort of framed the discussion. he told me that, gagain, he fees the media is not being honest about who trayvon martin was and that trayvon martin himself put that photo out there. and why is it that he can't put that photo out there? >> so, you know, just from your perspective, to his point about the media treatment in both stories, do you think he has a point? >> i think many people do believe as the story has been developed more, that there are two sides to this story.
and that perhaps initially the zimmerman family's story wasn't accurately depicted. and i think that robert zimmerman in many respects feels that it is his duty to put that out there. i mean, he certainly discussed with me how this has changed the lives of his family and why they acknowledge george zimmerman is still alive, he acknowledged his family has not lost a brother and a son as the martin family had, their lives have been destroyed, they received death threats. so he really feels very frustrated about how, i guess, the story has been framed. >> and then, let's keep in mind, big picture, that george zimmerman is scheduled to go on trial in june for the killing of trayvon martin. and when it comes to, you know, the brother's tweets, such as this one, does he need to stop what he's doing? could this hurt this case? >> i don't know that anyone will be able to stop robert zimmerman
because, again, he feels very strongly about supporting his brother. but he certainly could be a witness, right, in this case. i think because he is george zimmerman's brother, the jury will know if this goes to trial that there is some sort of bias there. you know, will this affect his testimony even if -- if it even comes in, i don't know if it will, sure, sure. but this is something that i think we'll all be following. this is a case that has struck so many nerves, people have staked their positions firmly in the ground on so many different issues. and this is just yet another turn of events in this case. >> sunny hostin, thank you for picking up the phone and talking to robert zimmerman himself for 40 minutes. piers morgan will talk to him as well, to george zimmerman's brother, tonight, "piers morgan tonight" at 9:00 eastern time. news on everyone and everything including why google is trying to limit the way you talk about google.
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have it all for you. we call it the power block. beginning with an expression you probably use pretty often. let me throw this for you. i didn't know. i googled it. sometimes you actually use the word google. other times maybe you use yahoo! search engine, maybe bing, still say google. guess what, google, not happy about that. they're actually wanting us to stop using google as a verb for any old internet search unless you actually google. you can say then you googled. with me? they're cracking down on using their own trademark. google has successfully forced the google bar out of the swedish language which means ungoogleable. google wasn't happy with that idea. it is cold out. kind of weather maybe has you wanting to crawl under the blanket, go out for a bowl of turkey chili. if you're near a panera bread company in st. louis, missouri, a bowl of chili will cost you a
penny, a dollar, maybe a hundred bucks, whatever you decide. you heard me right. they're experimenting with this new pay what you can cafe. zain asher is live in new york. pay what you can? how is that working out for them? >> hey, brooke. relatively simple. they do have a suggested price of $5.89. that's what you're supposed to pay for the turkey chili, but you pay whatever your heart desires. if you feel like being generous, fine. strapped for cash, totally fine too. only experimenting with one item on the menu, for most things you will have to pay the regular price, also, they're only trying this idea out in the st. louis area, cafes. panera is saying they hope two things will come from ought this. people who can afford to pay more will end up covering the costs of people who can't afford to pay, plus any profit will be donated to the hungry. so pretty generous. >> in st. louis only. zain asher, thank you.
big moment for the syrian opposition as they take a seat as a legitimate government of syria. it was what their leader had to say that is making news today. he's revealed he's asked the u.s. to help the rebels by shooting down president bashar al assad's warplanes with patriot missiles. the missiles were brought in by the u.s. to protect the turkish border. here is what the white house saying. >> we are aware of the request and at this time nato does not intend to intervene militarily in syria. i think that the patriot missile battery i think would be -- would fall within the definition of military assistance. >> but the opposition insists secretary of state john kerry promised to, quote, look into the matter. and just video we turned around, want to show you here this was a historic event at the white house. >> do solemnly swear. >> do solemnly swear. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states.
>> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> against all enemy. >> the u.s. secret service now has its very first female director. julia pierson on the left-hand side of the screen sworn in moments ago in the oval office. she has been chief of the staff at the agency ever since 2008. she began as a special agent back in miami in 1983. and in sports, the next round of the ncaa tourney kicks off tomorrow. in the meantime, watch a little basketball, keep your eye on the miami heat in the nba. by now, you have heard they're streaking. lebron james and company have won 27 games in a row. tonight, they play at chicago. the record for most wins in a row, by an nba team, 33. a policeman makes a dramatic rescue and technology he was wearing gives you an up close and personal view of exactly what happened. more of this remarkable video coming up.
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now to some of the hottest stories in a flash, rapid fire. roll it. look at this. police make a dramatic rescue. the whole thing caught on camera. a 38-year-old man slammed his truck here into a building. this is ohio. you see the smoke, the flames. well, police put out the fire and pull him to safety through a window. the man was treated and released and then arrested on dui charges. the last time prince harry visited america, some racy pictures surfaced of the royal partying in vegas. remember that? well, this coming may he will be back paying a visit to this guy. >> i'm thrilled that he's going to come. he'll have to come and see the
destruction himself firsthand. and he wants to be helpful. and i'm going to be spending the entire day with prince harry. and so, believe me, nobody is going to get naked. >> prince harry will be stopping in new jersey to tour the damage from hurricane sandy and as the governor said, he'll be having a close eye on him. now to this incredible video, out of eastern china, as a bus driver saves his own life and passengers. watch closely. keep your eye on the driver in the windshield here. this guy, look at that, boom, right through the glass. he was carrying 26 people. that's a lamppost, that blue thing, smashed right through, missed him. he's moving. amazingly he's okay. in a second, you'll see him get out of the way. he was still able to stop the bus. the driver suffered a ruptured spleen and the other passengers are okay. yikes. and this, this is former cia chief david petraeus, making his very first public speech since an affair ended his career.
here he was talking last night at a dinner in los angeles honoring the u.s. military and he took this moment to apologize for his affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. >> please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the cia and caused such pain for my family, friends and supporters. >> petraeus called moving from military to civilian life challenging. and he said he knows he's seen in a different light today than before that affair was revealed. monster cleanup job in the philippines is now officially beginning here. crews had to manually cut the bow off the "uss guardian," a warship docked on a coral reef since january. that coral reef is a unesco
world heritage site. the bow weighs 250 tons. the rest of it should be removed by mid-april. the navy is investigating why the guardian ran aground, but officials say the map showed the reef in the wrong place. and car companies keep topping each other with new inventions to make cars more driver and passenger friendly. and they're unveiling some new technology at the new york car show where maggie lake is standing by. hey, maggie. >> hey, brooke. that's right. we're seeing a lot of cool innovations here today at the auto show, including something tucked into the back of this minivan. we're going to tell you about that. and all the latest cutting edge technologies in the next car you buy.
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anytime you want. this is exactly the kind of feature that does help if you're busy. i'm not going to recommend it for ice cream or sour patch kids, remember that, for yourself. this is getting -- this is getting a lot of buzz, though, here. sometimes simple is genius. this show is also about the high end, a lot of technology in the cars. interestingly, if you wanted to get that kind of feeling, it is really drifting down into economy cars which is great for consumers. i caught up with amir amed who works for the technology arm of chrysler who showed me what is available now. have a listen. >> these cars are very high tech. this car here has our -- some of our highest tech systems. 7 inch multiview screen in a cluster and we brought in some of our highest technologies in a vehicle that is the lowest price point we offer in the company. >> which is different. you had to pay up.
this is something you used to get in luxury cars. >> the reason we have done this. everyone is carrying a smartphone. you got your smartphone, you want to compare it to what you have in your vehicle. we bring large screens into the vehicle, you can see the information you want at a glance and still stay focused on your drive. >> what are you hearing from customers? we know that you can fool around with the radio, used to the display. what do customers want from the technology? >> they want technology that adapts to them. they want to get into a car and not have to learn a system. they want to be able -- for the system to understand them. this is a system that helps them do that. you can go in and configure what you want as a customer, so each car can be tailored to each person. >> so back to -- sorry, back on the vacuum. when i think about putting a vacuum in a car, it seems so, for lack of a better word, practical, something someone could have come up with a long time ago. you to see this sense of practicality, more pervasive on the showroom floor, versus the, like, cool, high end technology? >> interestingly not really,
which is why it is such a surprise that this is generating so much buzz. really it is kind of like who can outdo each other on the most innovative, the most technology. it is really all about making cars rolling computers. you flip back to something as basic as this, it reminds us, we still need that kind of stuff, need the convenience. it is about things like cup holders, the way the chairs swing. that matters as well, those design features. you got to marry both that, the lower end, higher end, to really get that consumer lock. as we know, we talked about it before, brooke, women and millennials, younger people, buying a lot of the cars these days, not necessarily the guys making all the decisions. >> and maggie lake, thank you very much. we were talking about that a little while ago with our hot topics panel, ladies making better decisions compared to men in one study. the most dangerous people on the planet, you're about to hear from a guy spearheading thaeth cou technology that could allow you to make any kind of gun you want
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that everyone should have the freedom to do what he is teaching everybody to do or trying to, which is to download and print a 3 d paper gun. it obviously poses all sorts of interesting ethical questions. he is the subject of a new documentary and we'll be talking to him live and also be talking about the really haunting new details released from arizona about the gabby gifford shooting and the details about jared loughner, stuff we've suspected but have not known since the shooting in early 2011. we'll take a look at the hit show "the walking dead" and look at the 15th anniversary of viagra. we got a whole bunch of stuff right here. i can't go into all of it but some of the highlights. >> that was a good tease. we'll look for you in a couple minutes. >> thank you. coming up next fascinating pictures and video never before seen actually. pictures of the kennedy family. look at this. behind closed doors. one image brings back pretty
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okay. so we just talked about this. >> i know. we're good. >> we're on tv but it's okay. >> all right. >> new chapter. new chapter at camelot. new burnish on the kennedy legend. these are new photos released by the kennedy library. they show the kennedy family. this is a weekend trip to camp david. these were taken 50 years ago this week. >> wow. >> i talked to david gergen like last hour. i just want to play a little bit of that. we talked about how -- the formality -- yes it is a very glamorous family but the formality just for a weekend away. take a look. >> the presidents in those days did wear ties all the time all the way through ronald reagan and never went into the oval office without a coat and tie on. and the kennedys were like that. when -- their glamour i think partly came because they had this sort of european style
about them that people looked up into in those days, sort of a french overlay and the pictures are so poignant. >> that was david gergen. since we have the kennedys we have to talk to our go-to kennedy fashion person. >> yes. >> did you realize he is all into the kennedys? monty durham, so we talked to -- good to have you. i want to go through some of these photos. they're really fun to look at. you see caroline, john john here and let's throw some of the pictures up. and the point we're making with david, the formality. you see dad, here they are by the pony. >> yeah. macaroni is his name. and caroline. love that. you know that jackie won her first blue ribbon at 3 and she was credited for her style and elegance from riding horses because she sat up. you don't talk and you're perfectly dressed. >> and apparently as i learned today neil diamond came up with the song "sweet caroline" -- >> and here you see john john. i believe this is the weekend
before the trip to dallas. this is where clint hill, jackie's personal assistant -- well actually he was her guard -- taught john john how to salute and then that following week he did it at the funeral. so you see jackie in that beautiful coat, probably a valentino and chartreuse. one of her favorite colors. she loved animals. i mean, you know, she grew up outside of d.c. where she went to college. you know she was the only daughter, only child of the family to have a college degree. she grew up right outside of washington right there on the other side with all the beautiful land and they had horses and donkeys and so she was quite the horse rider. >> here they were at camp david. >> yes. all dressed up. >> all dressed up. why? >> look at her. >> very formal. >> very formal. >> par for the course for that time or -- par for the course for -- >> par for the course for that time but also what it's really about is it was who she was.
she never stepped out not being coiffed. even in her georgetown days when they were there as a senator's wife she is always dressed and coiffed and she had the pixie hair cut. she mimicked audrey hepburn. that was her idol. when she got married the first thing she did was go through john's wardrobe and had all his suits tailored. they were too boxy. he was skinny. >> she had them fitted. >> yes. you look at him prior as a senator and look at him as the president. total different man. >> you also talk about audrey hepburn and jackie o. still to this day so many people try to mimic her look, her hair, her glasses. >> yes. you mention her name and people will say, elegant, lady, under stated. all these beautiful terms which still hold true to her. >> and still, now, michelle obama sets quite a standard as well. >> exactly. it's interesting to see. i don't believe first ladies realize what an impact they have on fashion. or lack of. so, you know, you got to be playing to your game there beca