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>> a cnn hero with a recipe for helping others. secretary of state john kerry is in the region right now and he is warning north korea not to make what he calls a huge mistake. we are tracking the missiles that could fire at any time. and the frightening power of propaganda. north koreans are brainwashed from birth to worship their leader, it lingers until they die.
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right now north korea is expanding its threats of war warning them a target japan first and swallow tokyo in nuclear flames. a discussion about new intelligence with the regime making advances in its nuclear weapons program. the most urgent return right now, the missiles and position for a possible test launch, maybe even the next few hours. our correspondents are covering the crisis in the region, covering in washington and around the globe. christiane amanpour and fareed zakaria standing by. they will join us for every new development. let's go to our pentagon correspondent right now for the very latest. >> reporter: the latest and no less round of the nuclear threat comes from a report from the
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defense intelligence agency. tonight, we're learning that they are concerned and it goes back years. north korea could be seen practicing airborne assaults, not parachutes that has officials worry. questions surrounding a nuclear north korea. >> north korea has not shown the ability to deploy a nuclear armed missile. >> that capability refers to a fully developed system. officials don't believe they have a warhead small enough to fit its missiles and cannot accurately and that. >> they have conducted a nuclear test. >> three tests and recently launched a satellite into orbit. u.s. officials do not dispute north korea has the component to build a nuclear missile. >> delivery is something that we would expect first and it is quite possible they might be able to do that already. they might actually be able to
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reach japan. >> officials say north korea has successfully tested muscles with a range of 800 miles. because he is basic rocket technology, it would not be as big an issue. >> you could potentially have a larger warhead on a delivery system if that doesn't have to go as far. >> long-range ballistic missiles are another story. to reach the u.s. north korea would have to perfect a rocket that could put anchorage and possibly honolulu within range. it is estimated that muscle could travel 4200 miles, which means it would still be short of hitting mainland cities like seattle and los angeles. >> we do not operate under the presumption they have that available capacity. >> a former administration official said fully tested does not mean launch a missile. it means matching the wake of an
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actual war head. all the components except for nuclear material, and then being able to control its trajectory without the warhead disintegrating. cnn has learned the concerns go back years. the concerns that were raised in that report. we learned that two years ago that had the of the dia testified they could have plutonium based missiles that could be used, war has said could be used on ballistic missiles or plane. an official told us tonight that basically this is the same language that is in this latest report. she called it an lower-level report and officials are telling us it is just one version of the thinking and the intelligence community. other intelligence agencies within the government have not reach that same conclusion. >> thanks very much reckless take a closer look right now
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what it takes to cut a nuclear weapon on a ballistic missile and actually launched what would be a potentially horrific attack. tom foreman is that the magic wall with the demonstration. >> this is one of the first bombs dropped in the united states at the end of world war ii. it was little boy, it was huge. four plus tons of wheat that had to be dropped. this is the challenge that is facing the north koreans. we largely believe they have developed a nuclear weapon and it is probably crude like this and it would weigh a lot. and this is the big challenge because the mess we're talking about right now on the east coast only as a payload of two and a half tons. we simply cannot carry one of these nuclear weapons. the challenge becomes somehow making it smaller. let's talk about the nature, the architecture of nuclear weapons and how they would do that. the core of the nuclear bomb
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like we talked about world war ii is not very big. the size of a shot at, at 10 or 15 pounds of plutonium. but to make it law, what you have to do is compress it, and that is what stars the reaction. you do that by surrounding it with high explosives which are inside a container. we're not giving away any secrets, because it's on the internet of the when you make something this big, this is where the weight comes, not from the nuclear material, but from everything else. if you want to make it smaller, you have to improve the efficiency of this material. you might do that by putting better igniters all around here, so that all of this material goes off at precisely the same moment, blasting inward, and producing your explosion. if you do that really, really well, then you may not need so much out here. you might do it by hardening this better. so that it contains the blast and gets more power going in all at once. that would also allow you to use less material out here.
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and there's one other option out here which is often considered which is that you can actually make the air pocket between this and the core bigger, so this gets a running start at it, and hits it. if you do all of this right, you do wind up with a small nuke, smaller than before. and that would weigh under 2,200 pounds, and that, wolf, could be carried by one of their missiles. >> so far, tom, their nuclear tests have produced relatively small explosions. there's a question, doesn't that suggest they're having some problems with even basic nuclear technology? >> you know, a lot of us have thought that, wolf. but now, one idea raised by a researcher i talked to today, is maybe what they've been trying to do all along is making a small nuke, which would have a smaller explosion. they might say, we don't have the capability of carrying something really heavy anywhere. we need to start with something small, and more efficient of the and here's the trick of all of that. to do that, you need expertise. we had to develop that all on our own.
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the russians developed it all on their own. but now that information is out there. so the question is, to what degree is north korea getting expertise and guidance from places like iran and russia, where they have a lot more information, a lot more experience and a lot more scientists who have done this before. if they're getting enough information, that could spur concerns that they may be further down this road to that very process i just described, wolf, and they might in fact be able to have a small nuke on top of a missile going somewhere, not to the united states at this point, but somewhere, and toward a target. wolf? >> that's scary indeed. thanks very much, tom foreman. the secretary of state john kerry, he's on the korean peninsula right now, delivering a verbal shot across the border directed right at kim jong-un. let's bring in our chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour, she's the anchor of amanpour on cnn international. also joining us, fareed zakaria, the anchor of cnn's fareed
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zakaria gps. guys, listen to what secretary kerry said in seoul earlier today. >> we will defend our allies. we will stand with south korea, japan and others against these threats, and we will defend ourselves. and kim jong-un needs to understand, as i think he probably does, what the outcome of a conflict would be. >> kerry certainly spoke tough. but president obama has actually ordered that some of the military exercise scheduled in the region be canceled. so christiane, what is the message that the obama administration is trying to send right now, and will it work? >> well, listen, they've been sending this message from the beginning of this conflict. it all starts around the joint exercises that the united states and south korean military have been having throughout this month of april. when things started to get really heated, sort of mid last week, we saw that the white
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house, the pentagon, the u.s. administration wanted, and sent very clear signals from both the white house and the pentagon and the state department, that they wanted to move things into a more sort of diplomatic, sort of off-ramp kind of situation. because, it turned out, that one provocation from north korea was met with sort of, you know, here we can do this. the overflights, all the things the military was doing late last week. they decided to ratchet that down a bit, not wanting to provoke north korea into doing something unwise. so yes, some of those military exercises have either been canceled or are not being done in full public view. on the other hand, the united states has said, and admiral locklear said it very, very clearly, in congressional testimony, they have total plans to defend if necessary, not just the homeland which they do not believe will be attacked, but also the all yigs. and beyond that, as everybody tries to figure out if there's
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any missile launch should it be responded to, locklear was clear in recommending not shooting down any missile if it was not, you know, targeted towards either an ally or u.s. bases in guam. >> i'm anxious to get your assessment, fareed. secretary kerry is not making one of those high-profile visits to the dmz between north and south korea. it's usually a tradition for american dignitaries visiting the area, especially on a first trip as a secretary of state, to south korea, what does this say to you? >> i think that very clearly, wolf, you picked up on the two things, the canceling of the military exercises, or the camouflage of the military exercises, and kerry not going to the dmz. the signal is, we are not going to do anything that either inadvertently escalates this crisis. we're going to try to stay calm. we're not going to back down,
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but we're not going to step forward. it's a very delicate balancing act. because ultimately this is an exercise in extortion. this is what north korea has done several times over the past decade. this is what it's trying to do now. remember, this is a bankrupt regime. they have -- you know, they have essentially a war economy. the entire society is marshalled around producing for this war machine and for the palace, for the court of the kim family, and the military running the place. but that doesn't tend to be enough, so they then try to extort foreign exchange in various ways by these kinds of threats. so you can't quite give in to them, and at the same time you have to take them seriously enough to reassure south korea, to reassure japan, and to demonstrate to the north that this is not going to work. it's a balancing act. and i think the obama administration is playing it reasonably well. they are trying to stay firm, but they're trying not to do anything that could needlessly,
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and i say perhaps most importantly, inadvertently do something. secretary kerry said something interesting, he said, i think he knows what the outcome of this conflict would be. meaning if we were to begin a war, the next korean war would be the last korean war, because there would be no north korea at the end of it. the regime would almost certainly collapse. we think he's deterred, but you just want to be sure that no miscalculations occur. >> please stand by. we're going to come back to you in just a moment. up next, some dramatic evidence of the power of propaganda. a defector from north korea still gets emotional when she sees images touting the country's leaders as gods. and north korea's mysterious first lady. the rumors and her role in her husband's regime. all that, and a lot more coming up this hour. when i first felt the diabetic nerve pain,
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all eyes right now on north korea. inside a window for a possible missile launch that could come at any time. the country survives on a cult of devotion to the kim dynasty fueled by a massive propaganda machine. one defector tells us that the brainwashing begins at birth. kyung lah is in the capital of
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seoul right now. you had a chance to speak to one north korean defector about this brainwashing. what does she tell you? >> reporter: it wasn't so much what she told us, wolf, it's what she showed us. she had not seen north korean propaganda in ten years. see for yourself what happened. bizarre, over the top. welcome to the one and only television channel available in north korea. korean central television. to the outside world, the state-run images run from the weird and ridiculous, to unbelievable, and outlandish propaganda. but look what happens as this
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woman watches kc tv. they're god, she says, referring to north korea's trinity kim jong-un, his father and grandfather. but how can people think of him as a god? that's what you're taught since birth, says this defector, who escaped north korea ten years ago fleeing the brutal regime. they says it's been a long time since i last saw this, and i feel i'm getting emotional. i don't know how to express this. this is not a lie. this is not an act. it's real. if anything happens, north koreans will give up their lives. they will even jump into a fire. this is very powerful. even though you left ten years ago, this still has power over you. we watch a children's show that
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she final hi remembers, a good north korean cat defeating the south korean rat. and a war film that depicts the north koreans defeating americans. but if there's a revelation for this woman who fled north korea so long ago, it's this. you didn't know kim jong-un. do you feel the same love and devotion to him that you felt to kim jong-il, just by watching this television? yes, i feel the same. he looks like kim il-sung, exactly like his grandfather. he's the same. he's doing exactly what his grandfather and his father did. the power of propaganda on a people, the power of a regime. remember, this is a woman who risked her life to get out of north korea, to escape this regime. and she's still having this response. wolf, it is certainly a window into us understanding how north
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korea can continue to exist. >> it really is amazing when you think about it. kyung lah if seoul, thank you for that report. let's bring back our chief international correspondent christiane amanpour, and fareed zakaria. christiane, you see this love supposedly that even this defector still has for the kim dynasty. what does it tell you about that power, that that family wields over the north korean people? >> well, i think that it's infatuation. i've been there. i was in pyongyang twice, and i went up to where the big gold statue of kim il-sung the founder is. and people go there on special occasions. that is their pilgrimage venue. and i watched this unbelievable devotion. people prostrating themselves in front of a statue, insisting that those of us who are not north korean, who were visitors, act very respectfully around there. and i've watched all those television programs and seen
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some of the performances. what i can say is that it's almost like a nation that has been infantalized. she said it very clearly, that defector, that from birth you're fed this diet of the cult personality. in north korea, the kims are gods. they're not just maybe or pretending, they are considered gods. the day of the son, kim song un's birthday is the most important day of the year. and this is what they're fed all the time. unless you're in a prison camp and you know what the reality is, or you're the elite and have access to outside, by and large mosht of the people are cut off and they're told that the rest of the world is against them, and they're brought up in this way. you know what, i remember going to china, having the opportunity to visit china in the 1970s, 1978, when it was still very communist, and i went to the young children training centers, table tennis, violin, unbelievable things, and they, too, were full of the power of chairman mao who had recently
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died, you saw the emotion on their faces, the crying, the exertion, we'll die for the homeland, all of that. to them, it's real. >> fareed, at this point, in this crisis, this current crisis, do you believe kim jong-un really has to fire, at least fire a missile to keep legitimacy with his people after this buildup? >> i don't think he needs to do it for his people. his people are living in a vast prison camp. i think he has to do it for his international bargaining position, because he is, as i say, trying to run an extortion racket. i wouldn't worry too much about the brainwashing. we heard about the same thing about soviet citizens worshipping stalin. it fades very quickly once the totalitarian state is dismantled. you would be surprised how these people who seem as though they
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are obedient sheep become individuals very, very quickly. and as christiane says, once they get to learn and know about the outside world. the challenge we face really is what to do about a regime that is trying to essentially extract resources for itself. edward ludwig, the strategic analyst, he says we should tell even the south koreans to stop subsidizing the regime. the south subsidizes the regime in all kinds of ways. it sends food and fuel, employs workers in the joint park. all the money paid to the workers goes straight to the regime. because if we can't get an actual nonproliferation deal, if we can't get them to stop this kind of thing, you are in a sense feeding the beast. and at some point we may want to ask ourselves, we can't influence the chinese. what we can do is influence ourselves, the south koreans, the japanese, and we say to this dictatorship, either you get rid of your nuclear weapons, or no money of any kind, no goodies, no fuel, nothing, the extortion
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racket is over. >> fareed zakaria, christiane amanpour, guys, thanks very much. an important note to our viewers, watch christiane on her show, amanpour airing on cnn international. weekdays 3:00 and 5:00 p.m. eastern. and tune in to fareed zakaria gps sundays. still ahead, north korea's first lady rarely seen, or heard from, if ever. we're pulling back the kurt tape on her secretive life and her dm two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last,
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happening now, there's new information about the nuclear threat from north korea's military intelligence insider gives us his assessment. how north korea's children are taught to hate americans and why they say they must kill them. and even goes on in math class. the woman behind north korea's unpredictable young leader, her role, her secrets, and speculation she's given him an heir. i'm wolf blitzer, and this is "the situation room" special report, the north korean crisis. the secretary of state, john kerry, is in the crisis zone right now, hoping to stop north korea from goinging ahead with a provocative missile test. our foreign affairs correspondent jill dougherty is traveling with the secretary. >> wolf, there's drama in this visit by secretary kerry and driving home a two-pronged message to kim jong-un.
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secretary of state john kerry landed in seoul, the south korean capital, just 30 miles south of the demilitarized zone with north korea. warning the north's leader, kim jong-un, not to even think of launching a missile. >> it is a huge mistake for him to choose to do that. >> reporter: in meetings with south korea's new president and the foreign minister, the u.s. south korea alliance was on full display. >> we are all united in the fact that north korea will not be accepted as a nuclear power. the united states will, if needed, defend our allies and defend ourselves. >> reporter: but even in the midst of a blistering barrage of threats from kim jong-un, kerry said relations between north and south can improve, and quickly, if north korea makes the right decisions. the u.s., he said, would engage in bilateral talks with the
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north if pyongyang lives up to its international obligations, and moves toward negotiations on getting rid of its nuclear weapons. >> i think we have lowered our rhetoric significantly, and we are attempting to find a way for reasonableness to prevail here. >> reporter: john kerry also singled out china, a country he said with an enormous ability to make a difference with north korea. >> no country in the world has as close a relationship, or as significant an impact on the dprk than china. >> reporter: saturday kerry takes that message directly to beijing, laying out a path to the chinese leadership, he says, on how to defuse tension. wolf? >> congressman of maryland top democratic in the permanent select intelligence committee. congressman thanks for coming in.
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>> good to be here. >> what can you tell us about this latest assessment apparently from the defense intelligence agency, that the north koreans have apparently been able to miniaturize a nuclear warhead to put it on a missile. >> that's not the asmt of the entire committee. we have many different committees, cia, nsa, military. that assessment was by one agency. even in that assessment, the fact that there was a moderate assessment this could occur. >> moderate likelihood. >> moderate likelihood. >> what i hear you saying is that the cia, or other agencies, there are -- >> 16 intelligence agencies. >> they may have different assessments. >> all the intelligence comes together and it's analyzed. >> is there a national intelligence estimate on this specific sensitive issue? >> there have been assessments it the past. i can't get into the classified information. what i can say, as a result, all the intelligence comes together, and then the director of
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national intelligence coordinates that, general clapper, and he clearly made the statement yesterday that was one assessment. that is not the assessment of the intelligence committee. the secretary of state kerry said that. but whatever it is, it's a serious situation. >> how close are they, the north koreans, to having this kind of nuclear military capability? >> they have nuclear capability. >> we know they have the military capability, we know they have nuclear capability, the question is, can they marry a fu clear warhead on a missile? >> at this time our intelligence assessment is they cannot. it's very difficult to have that ballistic missile, which is really what allows them to shoot a missile somewhere, whether it's south korea or the united states. >> if they were to launch a missile in the next few hours, or the next few days, should the u.s. shoot it down? >> of course, we need to make -- depending where it's going. >> let's just say it's going anywhere. >> you have to look at the situation as it occurs. we're standing behind south korea 100%. we'll do whatever we can do to
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protect their citizens. if they're testing it, that's one assessment. >> they just launch it, and let's say it's going into the pacific ocean. >> one reasons secretary kerry is over there now to try to tone down the situation. you have a very young leader, who really does not have a lot of experience. his father made him a general two years ago, in the military. and now he is attempting to show to the world, and also to his own people, that i'm a tough hard leader. he doesn't realize how serious the situation is. you don't threaten the united states of america or south korea or our ally or anyone in that region. if you're going to threaten, we have to be ready for anything. the biggest difference here is his father used to threaten a lot and pull back, threaten and pull back. because we don't know enough about him or who he is or how he will react to certain situations, i can say this, we know that he is being advised by the same people that were advising his father. and i would hope that they understand, it's time for him to back off on what he's doing at
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this time. because it's very, very serious, the consequences could be very severe. >> if he tests a missile in the next few days, should the u.s. shoot it down or not? >> it all depends on where the test is, and whether it's going to affect people. but the issue here -- >> what other criteria for actually intercepting and destroying -- >> it would be the assessment from the military and defense. you've got to look at the facts. >> in other words, only shoot it down if it's heading to a populated -- >> i'm not making that decision. that's the assessment -- >> let it go into the water. >> if it's not affecting people's lives and doesn't have anything to do with our ally right next door, the biggest problem is you have south korea with millions of people right next to the north korean border. so every day, those people are right now very concerned about this. it's like washington, d.c., is threatening to attack virginia or the state of maryland. that's what they're dealing with right now.
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>> because they have said their number one enemy is japan. there's a lot of nervousness on japan right now. you know the history between japan and the korean peninsula during world war ii. >> japan is another ally. and because of what north korea's threatening to do right now, i'm worried that japan, south korea, will attempt to also protect themselves by developing nuclear capabilities. >> do you think they're seriously thinking of doing that? >> i think they think they need to do that to protect their people. but we need to get china more involved. i think -- i hope secretary of state kerry who is over in south korea now will bring china to the table. this is not in china's best interests. that's what china's looking at. >> do you have a good sense what kim jong-un, this young leader of north korea, what his end game is? >> that's the problem. we know what his father was like and his grandfather. right now we're not sure where he is, who -- we think we know who is advising him. but whether or not he is a very immature person who is showing off and make veiled threats. that's the problem.
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we had a pattern before with the father and grandfather. but we don't know this immature person. the first american he really reached out to was rodman. the basketball player. >> dennis rodman. >> that's right. >> that's a strange situation. >> he loves jordan, too. >> i think michael jordan declined that invitation. >> i think he was wise to decline it. >> the ranking democrat on the intelligence committee, thanks for coming. >> it's good to be with you. >> coming up on the special report, she's sometimes seen, but she's never heard from. north korea's mysterious first lady. plus, a closer look at indoctrinating north korean children, lessons about killing it doesn't matter where a good idea comes from, it only matters that it shows up and makes things better. in that spirit, verizon is proud to announce the powerful answers award. 10 million dollars in prizes for the best ideas. ideas so big, they have the power to change everything.
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a very tense window is now open and north korea's kim jong-un could give the order at any time to carry out a missile test launch. his country is one of the most secretive on earth, but even by that standard, north korea's first lady is shrouded in mystery. cnn's anna has what information we do know. >> reporter: sometimes seen, never heard. the lady in red is comrade ri sol-ju. introduced to the north korean people as kim jong-un's wife last july. and seen here touring a new pleasure center, always a differential step behind the great leader.
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>> very little publicly now. i know there was some reports that he had been married in 2009. there's speculation he might even have a child. >> reporter: analysts say introducing ri sol-ju serves several purposes for the regime. it shows that the kim dynasty is already thinking about its next generation. and it helps kim jong-un come across as more personable and connected to the people. the couple toured a preschool. but at the same time it gives the 28 or 29-year-old leader an aura of maturity. >> i think that announcement is sort of just for consolidating the fact that he is really a person who is of substance. and an adult who can handle whatever it is north korea has coming at it in the future. >> reporter: ri sol-ju's background, little is known. though some reports say she is the daughter of an academic. the south korean media has been arrive with rumors that she is
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now a mother. especially after she and kim attended a concert at which the johnny mathis song "a child is born" was played. she has no shortage of designer outfits. she's been seen clutching what appears to be a dior handbag at outings. a brand selling for more than $1,000 south of the demilitarized zone. unattainable to nearly every citizen in her own country. cnn, seoul. a chilling culture of indoctrination. how north korean school children are taught to hate america and worship the kim dynasty. ♪
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young lady could barely get her words out. >> translator: my heart is pounding. it's my first time seeing kim jong-un and i'm deeply touched by his love and care. >> look familiar to you? >> yes. it's what i did all the time when i was in north korea. >> reporter: daniel choi grew up in the child indoctrination, and now 24, says from as early as he can remember, he had to sing songs at school singing homage to kim jong-un and his father. he often had to visit monuments it in their honor and bow before them. kids who failed to tow the line saw this happens to their families. >> they sent to farm or very cold place. >> an official tells us that north korean children are taught to monitor each other. even math class involved propaganda. >> there is five americans, american soldier in north korea.
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and brave north koreans kill them all, kill them all the americans. how many lived like that? >> reporter: in school, choi says, stones were used to simulate hand grenades. >> they practice. and throw how far or how little. >> reporter: and that's for gym class? >> gym class. and there are targets. they make targets for american soldier. >> reporter: north korean children are in effect brainwashed from the first cognizant. government agencies, farms, analysts fled in 1996. >> they brought all the kids out to greet us. and they came out, again with, that kind of well rehearsed, kind of glassy eyed stare saying hello. hello in korean. and, again in, a remarkable way that there is a degree of indoctrination. >> getting the red scarf means you're in the young pioneer corps. >> the can make the comparison.
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it's obvious. this is clearly highly indoctrinated state where the children are tools of the state. just like it was in hitler. just like it was in stalin and soviet union. >> designed to get children to follow their leaders to the very end. choi was lucky. he was smuggled out at age 14. >> until i escaped to -- from north korea, i could die for them. >> so what does daniel choi think of kim jong-un and his family now? nothing special. they're ordinary men. >> thanks very much for that report. stand by. we have a moving story, a very moving story of a korean war veteran, that's next. erstands businesses are trying to come back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever.
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stand by for an emotion aol reunion. a veteran tracks down a woman whose live he saved when she was a girl during the korean war. that's just ahead.
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here's a look at the korean war memorial at the national mall. it's dedicated to the veterans. a wall says freedom is not free. the rising tensions between north and south carolina bring back a lot of painful memories of the korean war. many u.s. military veterans are haunted to this day. but one retired u.s. airman found a way to ease some of the pain by tracking down a young korean girl he saved many decades ago. >> aircraft is tracing. >> 60 years is a lifetime ago for most of us. >> my guess was it would have been right over there. >> reporter: but not for korean
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veteran richard ted waliter that spent every day of the past six decades thinking about this airfield. >> unbelievable. >> reporter: ted was 22 years old in 1953, enlisted airman who landed in the final year of the korean war at a remote base on the yellow sea. a bloody war with heavy american casualties. now 82, to this day he can't talk about what he saw except the story of this 10-year-old girl. >> we found she was burned very badly. from her waist all the way up to the neck. and right to the bottom chin. in fact, even her ear lobes appeared to be burned off. >> the girl's mother carried her five miles on foot in the brutal winter to his base. >> she stood on her feet in front of the medic during that two hours and was remarkable as she never shed a tear or made a sound. >> reporter: ted waluter begged the highest ranking officer to
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airlift her to a burn unit before she died of her infections. that saved her life. >> you didn't even know her name. >> i didn't know her name. hardly even knew where she lived. >> reporter: but he never forgot that brave little girl. repeating the story again and again for 60 years, a story that made its way here to korea. earlier this year the government put out this flyer nationwide hoping to find that little girl. they found her. before national korean media, the elderly woman met the american veteran once again. her name is kim yung sun. she married and raised three children. she bears the scars of her childhood wounds and since that day she was hurt carried the memory of the american who saved her. >> you call him your american father? >> translator: he's the hero who saved me. he healed me. wouldn't you call him that, too?
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arms length with ted and his wife, they remember the war that never truly ended, a divided nation still in conflict today. but for this veteran being here closed some old wounds we can't see. >> the time spent over here was worth it. >> reporter: the korean war is often called the for gotten war. but it's good to know that even in war, some things are worth remembering. cnn, south korea. what a wonderful story, the way they reunited after so many decades. thank you for your service to the united states. remember, you can always follow what's going on here in "the situation room." you can follow me on twitter @wolfblitzer. thanks very much for watching. the news continues next on cnn.


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