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let me know your opinion. the guy fired off an absolutely horrible joke. let me know your thoughts. should he have his job back? cnn.com/brooke. jake tapper is up next with "the lead." >> hey, everyone. this is what you unwittingly traded your private phone records for. i'm here with "the lead," the world lead. they monitored domestic phone records and e-mails. they reveal the specifics of how they claim they use the data to stop the terror system. did they have to do that? autism. could the answer be in the air that we breathe? a new study out today is bound to cause controversy. and the bur are lead.
will the 38-year-long goose chase for jimmy hoffa finally end in a field outside detroit? welcome to "the lead with jake tapper," their hands forces by nsa intelligence contractor edward snowden have been out there trying to justify the nags national intelligence association's hearing intelligence. top officials made their case. >> in recent years these programs together with other intelligence have protected our u.s. and allies from terror threats from across the globe to include helping prevent the potential terrorist events over 50 times since 9/11. >> kind of some interesting language there. these programs together with ore intelligence have protected the u.s. and its allies from threats across the globe. a lot of caveats and expansive
trap doors there. of those 50 threats mentioned by nsa director keith alexander, fbi director shaun joyce listed four terror events that he claims were disrupted by the collection of phone records or by monitoring foreign online activity. one r one, najibullah zazi's plan fwom new york subway thwarted in 2009. two, a plot to bomb the new york stock exchange voichbled khalid ouazani who was in the u.s. who they found out through an online communication with a known extremist in yemen. he pleaded guilty to providing financial assistance in 2010. for his part ouazzani said he had nothing to do 'do with the blot to blow up the new york stock exchange. three, a plot to bomb a danish newspaper.
as you know this was david headley. headley is serving 35 years in prison for that and for helping to plan the mumbai attacks in 2008. four, for this one we think joyce was referring to the fbi using phone records collections to catch a individual earlier this year for sending money to al shabashabab. the official tight sl how it protects americans and why disclosure aids are adversaries. a tougher audience might have been found in a rare 45-minute interview that president obama gave to charlie rose overnight. the president has watched his approval ratings plummet this month. he approved of these, especially phone data mining. >> what happens is the fbi, if, in fact, it now wants to get contact, if, in fact, it wants
to start tapping that phone, it's got to go to the ffisa cor ask for a warrant. >> has the fisa corp turned down any requests? >> the requests are surprisingly small, number one. numb beer two, folks don't go with a query unless they've got a pretty good suspicion. >> should this be transparent in some way? >> it is transparent. that's why we set up a fisa corp. >> it is transparent. transparent. it is an interesting word to describe the fisa corp that operates with total near secrecy. >> what do you think of me? >> the fisa court is also not a court in the way most of us understand. there are not two sides to every case and there's no one there to challenge what they claim through the fisa corp. and joining me to discuss the
hearing is congressman dutch rufus burger. we're told more than 50 plots disrupted, ten of them homeland-based, but what's not entirely clear is how many of these attacks de ffinitively cod not have been done with more atar atta attacks, gumshoe attacks. >> let me give you an example. first thing we think is important to educate members of the congress why we need this program and why we need it to protect americans. the question was asked of general alexander. could we have maebl possibly prevented the 9/11 attacks. the question is this. you cannot go back in history and say it could have been stopped or not at that point in time. what he did say is if this program was in place, that we had a known al qaeda terrorist making contact with an individual who lived in san
diego. if, in fact, the program was there at this time and the nsa got that information, they would then turn that over to the fbi and then the fbi would then go to the courts an then the fbi would start their investigation, which would get phone records and see -- other investigation to see who they were connected to. clearly that would have shown the group who was in new jersey, it would have shown based on investigation that some of the al qaeda people were taking flying lessons in florida. so this is a program that works. it's program that does not listen to your conversation. it ooh's program that is overseen by the courts. and our role in government is to protect the country from these terrorist attacks. now there's another issue talking about why do you need all of this data. the first thing is data is not your name or your address is not involved in the data. why do we need this large amount of numbers? and how the system works, if you
want to find a needle in a haystack which is a lot of what our intelligence committee does, you need a haystack, and the providers who have this information, they keep it only for a certain period of time. so in order for us to be involved and stop these attacks, we need to move right way. but it's clear again we're not listening to any contact. when we do, this program does kick in. you don't get anything more than a phone number and length of call. now, if, in fact, you need to move further in the program and find out if there's a connection with terrorist, they turn it over to the fbi and that's when the courts get involved. >> president obama on annan ter view on pbs called the process transparent because there is this fisa court, which, of course, is a secret court. do you think the process is transparent? >> well, let's talk about what works. you don't want to give your sources and methods to your enemy. the whole purpose is to stop these attacks.
unfortunately what has just happened with these leaks that you -- terrorists and our enemies, people who are against this, understand how we operate. >> you don't think that they knew beforehand that the american national security might be monitoring their phone calls or their e-mails? >> they didn't know how we did it, what the method was. they didn't know the systems that we have. >> they still don't know really the systems. we just have a vague idea. >> well, let's talk about the courts as far as transparency. we have people say -- or the courts are rumm rubber stamped. our forefathers created a great checks and balances between the conference and the courts. they're overseeing this process to make sure it's legal, that they're following the rules and the laws, and that's the purpose of where the kortzes are. the way the system works and i asked this system to general alexander today, why are they not considered rubber stamp when they approve so many of the
requests. and one of the main reasons is that the courts have a staff, and the intelligence committee goes to the staff, gives them the information ahead of time, and then they come back and say, well, the court has a problem with this issue or that issue so when they eventually come the court, most of those issues have been resolved and looked at. >> i want to -- before i -- i only have time for one more question, sir, and i want to play something that nsa intelligence director asked today about how many people were in the same position as nsa leaker edward snowden contractors. >> there's on an order of a thousand system administrators, people who actually run the networks that have in certain sections that level of authority and ability to interface with the system. >> how many of those are outside contractors? >> the majority are contractors. >> so you said in this hearing, sir, that we need a sale in the crack to the system.
quickly, if you could, are there too many people with too much access too sensitive information because of all these contractors? >> no. you need a chain to make sure that we dealering with this amazing amount of volume that we have in these conversations like finding a needle in the haystack. what we need to know now is we had a breach. we need to develop a system so when someone like this decides to go against their country. to break the law, that there needs an alarm system that will go off. that didn't happen in this case, so we have to learn from that. the other issue about contractors is contractors add achd the relationship with contractors and the government is very important. what we have to do is make sure we hold them accountable for their performance. also contractors save us money in the end. if you have a three-year program, you don't hire somebody for 25 years to do a three-year program. so we make sure we oversee.
we hold contractors accountable. moreover, we hold breaches. >> all right. congressman dutch ruffersberger, thank you so much. >> sure. >> coming up, it's an epidemic and parents are looking for answers. could the air that a pregnant woman breathes be linked to autism? i'll get's from a scientist. what did you do on your summer vacation. the obama girls hit up a pub in ierlland with an a-lister. more when we come back. opportunity here. i can use as walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart.
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suggests that as many as one in 50 school-aged children could have some form of the disorder. but today a brand-new study has parents and experts talking by a number of physicians and researchers including the medical school of public health. high levels of air pollution may be linked with a woman's chance of having a child with autism. the team shared their views and environmental health perspectives. pew research. here to break down the findings and to help us assess the risks is andrea roberts. andrea, thanks so much for joining us. i just want to make sure i understand exactly what the study is saying. are you saying pollution is directly linked to an increase in cases of autism? >> well, what we found in our study was that there's an association between women living in areas that have high levels
of pollution and their children's risk of having autism. we don't know whether this is causal or not. >> so there's a correlation but not necessarily causation. the study says that women who were exposed to the highest levels of diesel or mercury in the air were twice as likely to have a child with autism than women who lived in the cleanest parts of the sample. that's a huge disparity. if it's not the air pollution, could it be that people who live in those areas are more prone to be poor or low income? what do you think is causing this? >> well, that's a very interesting question. the main thing we were concerned about is if it wasn't air pollution, it was income or education levels because actually people who are wealthy or more highly educate ready more likely to have their child diagnosed with autism if they have autism whereas people with
lower education or poorer people are less likely to get their autistic child diagnosed. and since wealthier more highly educated people tend to live in the cities which are more polluted, we thought this could be a cause of the association, but we were able to adjust for these factors and we didn't -- they didn't explain our results. >> i guess the bottom line i would ask you is what can expecting mothers do based on your study -- your best estimate based on your study to shield your yet-to-be-born babies from this disorder? >> well, i think our study needs to be followed up to try to figure out which of these pollutants might actually cause an increased risk of autism, if any of them. but for women who are pregnant, i think they can do things that will benefit the health of their child and might reduce the risk of autism like taking prenatal vitamins or eating foods rich in
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. everyone was all smiles in ireland. but when it came down to business, specifically the brutal business of syria's violent civil war, it was all talk and little action. they promised to convene an international conference on the problem, quote, as soon as possible. international conference, huh? isn't that what the g-8 was? last week the white house said the assad regime used chemical weapons and they promised to ramp up military aid to trebles. exactly what kind of aid the president is going to offer remains to be seen. by the way, the u.s. estimates more than 93,000 people have died in this brutal war. for most of us the most exciting may be fish and chips in a pub.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the president did it for 11 minutes in a television interview with charlie rose starting by paying compliments to the agency. >> we should take pride in that because they're extraordinary professionals. they're dedicated to keeping the american people safe. if you're a u.s. person, then nsa is not listening to your phone calls and it's not targeting your e-mails unless it's getting an individualized court order. >> nsa director keith alexander reiterating to congress that the nsa does not have the capability to listen in on phone calls or read e-mails. the president says that while he understands the privacy issue, some is better kept a secret. >> look. we have to make decisions about how much classified information and how much covert activity
we're willing to tolerate as a society. and, you know, we could not have carried out the bin laden raid if it was on the front page of the papers. i think everybody understands that. >> well, one problem is that everybody doesn't understand what's going on here and why. for some help in parsing the president's words, we are now turning to two former government whistle blowers and nsa employees. thomas strait provided information about gross waste and fraud at the nsa. he was prosecuted but later ceched a misdemeanor lee for unauthorized lead. gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. i appreciate it. first of all is there anything the president just said in the interview or overheard in the interview that he gave to pbs that you take issue with?
bill, aisle start with you. >> virtually everything, yes. with mark klein's disclosure of the devices on the fiberoptics carrying the internet, that gave them the capeth to collect all of the data onto the internet and collect it. >> so all of ef about's e-mails are in the nsa room in san francisco. >> or passed to places similar to utah or san antonio or other storage facilities. >> so everybody's e-mails are being collected even if they're not necessarily being read. >> well, director mueller of the fbi sad in his testimony to the senate judiciary committee on the 30th, he said i've gotten together the dod where we've put together the database with one querrey i can get all past and future e-mails from a person. that says he's looking at u.s.
citizen e-mail, past and future, as they come in. >> thomas? >> that goes beyond just metadata. >> metadata is just translated. this phone call was placed from this phone number to this phoenix number, but you're saying it's more than that. >> it's more than that. metadata is individual of a content. it's very easy to go to the content whenever you feel like it and so while you can derive a lot from the metadata itself. it does beg the question. i mean the metadata itself, when you're asking for it under the special court order to turn ore 100 million plus phone records and then claim that you don't have the name associated with those numbers, it just stretches the bounds of credit ulty. >> you think it's a lot more than that. >> a lot more than that. >> the president says they're
not listening to americans' e-mails for orr phone calls. i want to replay this inform snoogs does the technology exist at the nsa to flip a switch by some analyst to listen to an american's phone calls or read their e-mails? >> no. >> so the technology does not exist to flip a switch to listen to americans' phone calls or read their e-mails. >> that is correct. >> now, snowden suggests that the technology is there. you can flip a switch rj listen to the phone calls, read the e-mails. who's right? >> snowden was a systems administrator, so he had access to the whole system, databases and processes communications lines, so he was responsible to keep it up and running. so what he's really saying is i can take a target number and put it in a target list and at that point it would be tested to the
system. >> it's not as simple as flipping a switch but it's basically as simple as flipping a switch. >> they can look at the whole system and do anything with it basically. >> so an analyst has the ability to flip a switch or listen in. >> the technology exists. even under what they claim would be the particularized warrant go after an american who may be suspected of wrongdoing, then they have to flip a switch in order to gain access to the content. so to say the technology does not exist begs the question and do we trust his word for it. there's a number of cases that have been made in georgia where they're actually listening in on ngos and american citizens overseas. >> they say that's one of the other ways they disassemble. if you're an american abroad,
you're considering foreign. >> actually no. if you're an american, you're an american. >> it depends where you are. >> all right. well, bill benny and thomas drake, we're going have you back to talk about this as this controversial continues. thank you so much and thank you for your courage in speaking up for what you thing is right. in politics you might say john boehner has a lot of skin in the game. tan skin, yes, but it's in the game. would he will willing to let an immigration bill come to the floor of the house without a lot of republicans behind it. he seals to be behind that. a tip could lead to the last resting place of jimmy hoffa. yes, we're doing that story again. you deserve more than justo flexibility and convenience. so here are a few reasons to choose university of phoenix. our average class size is only 14 students. our financial tools help you make smart choices about how to pay for school.
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welcome back to "the lead." immigration reform legislation is coming to a head, so it's worth noting right now its biggest potential hurdle. house speaker john boehner has a tough job especially with this bill in the past sometimes to get legislation through the house, he's had to bring up bills that he knew would not get a majority of republican support. he doesn't like to do it, he says, but sometimes he has to. last monday in an unedited unarid portion with george stephanopoulos, one he was kind enough to share with us, boehner even patted himself on the back a bit for allowing the bills to pass the house without a majority of the republicans backing him up. >> there are some bills that have passed, whether the majority of democrats have been
in favor and the minority republicans. and i've been criticized for it. my job as speaker is to ensure all members on both sides have a fair shot of ideas. >> if that means putting on the floor a bill that will get more democrats than republicans -- >> i don't believe that will be the case. >> but you're open to it. >> we'll let the housework its will. >> to the record scratch. today the speaker said something that sounded a little different. >> any immigration reform bill that going go into law ought to have a majority of both parties' support if we're really serious about making that happen. >> and he said that he was very uninclined to bring up a bill that would not have the majority of house republicans. boehner's office insist this is not a flip flop. he's mainly taking a firmer stance on wanting to have majority support. what's really going on here? let's bring in the former green jobs adviser van jones, anna navarro and national editor amy
walter. so, anna, is this a back flip by boehner, a flip-flop, or is he just under a little bit of pressure from house republicans? >> i think i'd call it a zig san diego. >> a zig-zag, not a flip-flop. >> a zig-zag. in the am beyans, the political environmental we are in today, which is much didn't than when denny has ter was speaker. today there are no rules in congress basically so it's a much more defendant environment, but think it's a sauce-making process, and what we are seeing is sausage making. >> yes. just like watching sausage being made. >> all of those who think the immigration bill is dead, no, it's not. it's chugging along. it's a difficult process. it's going require compromise. and i think what john boehner is saying is completely right. it off to have republican support. i agree with that. and think --
>> what that means though, it -- teachers ought to make a million dollar as year. that's not reality. >> that's right. there's a big difference between ought and must, isn't there? >> van, what's your take on this? >> i feel sorry for this t guy because you have the republican guy getting torn apart and he's got issues on both sides of it. first o of all you have republicans saying are you asking me to commit sueside twice. if i vote for -- i'm a red state republican. if i vote for this bill, i'm going to get primaried, and if the bill passed, if they're seen as immigration, some of these new voters are going to vote against me. you have some saying i don't want to do this. at the same time there are 0 purple district republicans who need this issue to go away, who need immigration to move forward, and for republicans to do right on it. he's stuck in the middle. you'll going see him go zig and
san diego for za zag for a while. >> amy, you watch the house very closely. boehner has brought up bills he needed to become law even though he knew they weren't going to vote for it such as the tax cut extensions and economic deals. would he be willing to let this be voted on if the house majority were to vote against it? >> let's look what he has coming up next. how many tips does he have to g with a vote of majority of republicans. he's got to deal with the debt ceiling, the budget. those are issues that are much more significant not really so much just for the party but potentially for the health of the country and the economy. so that's where you would put your effort. the bottom line on this, though, i think, ultimately for republicans is where is the incentive? life is not very complicated. no matter what your job is, you have to get something done. for these house republicans
there's very little incentive to vote for something. to van's point they're going to get primaried. almost all of them do. the average republican district right now is 75% light. there are nine republicans in the house who represent a majority/minority district. even those who sit in heavy districts have a significant latino population, they're also very republican districts. you have to -- the speaker has to find a way to get those folks to vote against their most immediate incentive, which is to be re-elected. >> fortunately we have republicans who look past their district boundaries and look past it and hopefully there's enough of those. i'm an optimist. >> coming up on "the lead," a new tip for a search in a field for jimmy hoffa's body. again, will it be another
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welcome back to "the lead." a feature called "explain this to me." fbi has been searching for the remains of jimmy hoffa not far way from a detroit restaurant where he was last seen publicly alive. does this story sound familiar? it's an an yonual event. not to make light of a missing person's case, but this has gone on so long it became a punch line for comedians more than a decade ago. how often is there a search for
his body and how much does all this digging cost? let's go to tom foreman for answers. explain this to me. do they have to do this every time a dying mobster gives a tip? >> i think the short answer is yes. i only say that because apparently every time it happen, they do. like magician in a blue shirt and white socks, jim riddle hoffa -- yes, his middle name was riddle" stood outside a restaurant in michigan in 1975 and vanished without a trace. now in a field not far away, investigators are following yet another lead, digging up yet another possible grave, yet again spending taxes trying to solve the riddle of where jimmy hoffa went. >> it's my fondest hope that we can give that closure not just to the hoffa family but also to the community to not tear a scab off with every new lead and
bring it to kuhn collusion. >> what do you do for enterta entertainmeentertai entertainme entertainment? >> right here at work. seven day as week i have more fun working than any golf course. >> that was labor boss hoffa on cbc in 1960. so how many searches has law enforcement conducted for him? they responded to at least 15 substantive leads. in michigan where most of the digging has been done, one suggested his body was trotted off to a horse farm. >> there's probable cause to believe that james hoffa's body might be buried here. some put his bot in new jersey in the concrete of the giants stadium. other versions have him sunk in the swamps of florida, cart off to california, even crushed in a car and shipped overseas. how much is all of this searchling cost? based on just one search as reported by "the detroit news," it's not unusual to estimate
that the police agencies including fbi have spent well over $3 million trying to find jimmy hoffa with no luck. so do they have to do this every time there is a tip? >> the hoff ya body is in that field. no doubt about it. there used to be a barn in the field. buried under the slachblt that's our understanding where his body may be. >> maybe so. it's an open case and his family still wants answers and jimmy hoffa is still hiding. it is worth noting that because of new dna evidence and that sort of thing they're processing murders that happened more than 30 years ago. maybe something could happen but this guy would be 100 years old if he were around today. >> there's so many missing persons cases in the united states. i have to bleach that part of this is that very excited prosecutors and sheriffs and local fbi agents feel like they're going to solve it. it's going to a bert in their
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bestseller. currently number six. now jeanette walls' latest book is not a memoir, it's a novel. "the silver star." it's about two sisters abandoned by their mother and fending for themselves in a small southern town during integration. i spoke to walls earlier about her latest writing endeavor. i can't help but think having read your memoir that being the main character in this novel and her sister was -- are versions of you and your siblings. fair? >> i'm fascinated by people who think sort of outside of the box, and liz does. i come from a family of six. four of them are very creative people, and i'm really riveted by people who make things up, and so, yes, there are a lot of parallels in being her sister and being my sip ling, yes. >> the mother says in the book at one point you have an ugly mouth but it will take you far if you learn how to use it the
right way, something like that. >> yes, yes. >> is that something that your mother ever said to you? >> i'm so impressed you picked up on that. my mother who for years was homeless -- i recently built her a home. i was going through it and it was a mess. i started yelling at her. your place is a mess. i got a little harsh and afterward i got harsh. i apologized. she said, don't ever apologize to me. >> i said i've got an ugly mouth. she said your ugly mouth has gotten you far. for years i said i can't write fiction because i can't make things up. i still can't but i steal things when i hear a good line. i steal it and put it in my book. >> before i let you go, how difficult was it to follow up t "theglass glass castle" which was such a huge success. is it tough over to write fiction than nonfiction?
>> some find writing fiction freeing. i find it a little intimidating. when you write nonfiction, you ask what really happened. and with nonfiction it's what would happen. it's the difference of navigating on the road to navigating on the ocean. with nonfiction you don't have to worry about it being real. the truth is there. you've got to dig for it. and with fiction, it has to feel real and you have to make everything credible. so i found it very challenging and a have interesting process but in the end i believe the two are very similar in that you're still trying to get to the emotional truths. >> our thanks to jeanette walls for stopping by to discuss "the silver star." come by and check it out. sorry, jay-z. if you want to get to platinum, you'll have to get there the hard way. the copies will then be given away to customers when they
purchase android phones. even though jay-z has reached the millions albums milestones released, apparently those will not count on the official billboard chart. jay-z does not seem too caught up in the technicality. he tweeted today if one billion get sold and billboard gets sold? ahh, platinum. also he's married to beyonce. so he's got that going for him. the oxford american dictionary is on the cutting edge of 2006. it's added 2,000 new words. it's also interesting in seeing what they consider real words after we've been using them for years. an updated version of tweet. along with geekry, flash mob, and, of course, dad dancing, a term that my kids will certainly never have to use.
that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to jim acosta who's filling in for wolf blitzer. jimacosta away. >> thanks, jake. intelligence says government surveillance has foiled more than 50 plots. i'll ask senator rand paul if he's buying it. authorities want you to help solve an unsolved crime of a bombing in times square. and mod irp-day slavery in ohio. federal prosecutors say the spts used beatings, dogs, and snakes against a mentally disabled woman and her child. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim acosta, and you're in the situation room. . facing public outrage over massic government surveillance, the nsa and other security
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