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no matter the complications, at the end of the day, this is a woman who lost her son and they want to stand what happened. >> check out our show page, cnn/thelead. i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." right now, george zimmerman is being judged by jurors. a verdict could happen at any time. will it come down to the fine print of the law or will it come down to emotion? lawyers on both sides argued their cases one last time. our analysts are standing by. they'll take a closer look at the critical point that the lawyers made and their clashing styles. and the defense attorney mark o'mara talks at about the toughest and most controversial choices he had to make during the trial and how race has figured into this trial. i'm wolf blitzer.
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you're in "the situation room." in florida right now there's breaking news in the george zimmerman trial. the court is compiling a list of evidence for the jurors. they just asked for it only moments ago, nearly two and a half hours into their deliberations. the six women are trying to sort out what really happened on the night of zimmerman's deadly confrontation with 17-year-old trayvon martin. jurors will decide whether zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder or the lesser charge of manslaughter or whether he acted in self-defense and can walk away from this trial a free man. the defense attorney, mark o'mara, spent more than three hours delivering his closing arguments today. he told the jurors that zimmerman is, in his word, completely innocent but he stressed that they only need to have reasonable doubt about his guilt to acquit him. and he hit at the heart of the self-defense claim, suggesting that trayvon martin didn't have a gun but he did have a weapon.
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>> that's cement. that is a sidewalk. and that is not an unarmed teen-ager with nothing but skittles trying to get home. that was somebody who used the availability of dangerous items from his fist to the concrete to cause great bodily injury. not that it was necessary for self-defense but great bodily injury against george zimmerman. and the discussion by the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody that, that can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting. >> the prosecutor john guy had the last word delivering the state's rebuttal. he argued that zimmerman acted, in his words, with ill will or
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hatred, the requirement for a second degree murder conviction. >> when a grown man frustrated, angry with hate in his heart gets out of his car with a loaded gun and follows a child, a stranger in the dark and shoots him through his heart, what is that? is that nothing? that's not anything? is that where we are? that's nothing. well, that's not his call and that's not my call. that's your call. >> and right now let go into the courtroom because the judge has reconvened the attorneys. you see them over there.
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they're going over a list of the inventory of all the evidence that was presented during the course of the three weeks of this trial. the jury wants that inventory. they want a list. they want a number of each item, each piece of evidence so they can review it methodically, very, very carefully. jeffrey toobin is with us, martin savge has been covering this trial for us, he's with us as well. jeffrey, what do you make of this first request, this first question from the six women of the jury? >> it's actually a pretty typical first question for deliberations in a pretty mplicated case. i would guess there are probably close to a hundred exhibits in this case and the jury wants to be able to take a look at what's what. these are fairly common questions. sometimes jurors ask for pens and papers, a black board, a white board. this is how juries get organized. it would not be surprised to have the jurors ask to see some
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of the exhibits on the list. >> sunny, surprising for me to see they don't have this already ready, a list, an inventory of the evidence. wouldn't that be something that they would have ready to go? why do they have to do it in the middle of deliberations? >> yeah, i mean, i certainly always had an inventory list of my evidence. i'm sure jeff did as well, perhaps mark. sometimes you don't think you need it. sometimes it just not done. but i was surprised as well. i will say this. a lot of people around the courthouse are saying, you know, verdict tonight, verdict tonight. that has never been my impression, but the fact that they wanted the inventory list so they could see what evidence was in there and they could sort of pick and choose by number tells me what i thought. this is a methodical jury, they're going to look at everything. >> what does it say to you, mark? >> i agree with that. i think they can look at whatever they want to look at -- >> hold on a second, mark.
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hold on. the judge is speaking. >> a copy is being provided to them from deputy jarvis or do you want them to bring them in the courtroom? >> we're fine with it being delivered, your honor. >> we agree, your honor. >> we'll go ahead and have the six copies delivered. >> for our purposes, can we get a couple of copies? doesn't need to be right away. next time you make copies. >> okay, thank you. court will be in recess. >> there she is, debra nelsonel the judge in this case. she's been doing very, very significant job as the judge in this case. let me go back to mark nejame. the six members of the jury, they're going to get a list of the inventory, the attorneys for both sides, the prosecution and the defense, they'll get the same list. you were saying to us what if anything this request from the jury for an inventory, does it give as you tip, a signal, a hint of what's going on behind
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closed doors? >> i really agree with sunny on this. i think it just an efficient way for them to hunt and peck for those items that they in fact want to go through. i do think it a very steady jury. i think -- i don't think. most of them were taking notes throughout, one in particular probably is as accurate as any court reporter in there, she was writing nonstop throughout this whole thing. i think the jurors are going to try to align themselves and see if they can agree with the evidence. if there's areas of dispute, they'll go through their individual notes and figure out where the disagreements are and they'll reach a consensus. that way they're at least dealing with common facts and common agreement on the evidence so they can start working towards -- through their deliberations toward a resolution. i think if there's a general consensus, we'll have a quicker verdict. if there's a disagreement, somebody wants an acquittal, somebody wants manslaughter,
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that's where the back and forth will go as they work through everything. as a general consensus, i think we can get an earlier withone. if we don't see a general consensus, we could be here a bit earlier. there is a lot of passion. remember, it has to be a unanimous jury. >> has to be 6-0, either guilty or not guilty. >> martin, assuming an hour from now or three hours from now or tomorrow or sunday they have a verdict, they have a game plan of how they announce it and what they go through. it pretty specific. >> it is. we are told that we'll get at least one hour heads up. that is a little bit different when it comes to today. the heads up could be a little bit shorter because we just started and the fact that everybody is right here and present. but the idea is there would be a notification and that at least one hour heads up would be granted and then everyone, including the media, would be back in the courtroom there
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waiting to hear the jury's verdict. i'd be interested to know from the expert analysis here is i would have assumed that once that jury went back there, they would have taken one sort of initial what do you think, some sort of quick vote? if that has happened and we find out they're not in agreement and there's only six of them but it appears now they have to go over everything. >> a lot of times if there's eight or 12 jurors, it takes them a little bit longer than six jurors. may or may not. you never know. there could be a 6-0 decision one way or another, could be 3-3, 5-1. they have to be unanimous either way. >> a big gesture, strong emotions today. how the prosecution played on jurors' sympathies and the defense tried to play them down. also first on cnn, the defense attorney answer as driving question during this trial, is george zimmerman a racist? martin savidge's interview with mark o'mara is coming up as well.
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should sit back and raise your hand and tell me, are you nuts? how dare you tell me to leave sympathy out of my life and leave my emotions aside? how dare you? i don't do that ever in my life. welcome to a criminal courtroom because unfortunately you have to be better than your presumptions. >> the prosecution clearly tried to tug at heart strings referring repeatedly to trayvon martin as a child. >> was that child not in fear when he was running from that defendant? isn't that every child's worst nightmare, to be followed on the way home in the dark by a stranger? isn't that every child's worst fear? that was trayvon martin's last
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emotion. >> mark nejame, how effective was that closing argument by the prosecution? >> i think it was great. i just think he just is a great orator. he works his words in just beautifully with the right amount of inflexion and passion and he's just great. he's a great speaker. with that said i think he's had a tremendous burden to overcome and that is did the state prove it? did they prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt? i think they did as good as they could have with the facts presented to them. i can't do anything but give kudos for that closing, but i don't think they adequately addressed some of the big issues. the gaping hole that exists in my case when they first tried to convince everybody it was trayvon martin on the bottom. now we know that the day before the closing argument, they basically changed up their strategy. if the jury doesn't grab that, then it's a better case for the state. if the jury understands the
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initial promises and how it ended, i think that's problematic. any time you change up what you promise or suggest is going to happen and it changes mid way, that's typically challenges. >> because the defense repeated claimed george zimmerman was simply acting in self-defense, he was walking around, he saw somebody, approached somebody and then there was a fight. they claim trayvon martin threw the first punch, and he was acting in self-defense. >> that certainly has been their theme all along. their theme has been to folks on self-defense. i think mark o'mara, you could see that's what he was putting in front of this jury. i was in the courtroom for all of the closing arguments. i think mark o'mara is a brilliant attorney, i think he's terrific. i think the jury wasn't necessarily with him when he brought out the big piece of concrete and put it on the ground. none of them got up to look at it. you couldn't really see it from the back row.
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i think that the video, the video animation fell a little flat quite frankly. i didn't see that kind of reaction when the state was closing. i saw them not move. i mean, they could not look away from him. and i saw in particular reaction -- a particular reaction from two of the jurors when he said what we just played, which is isn't that every child's nightmare? the juror that actually takes all the notes actually put her pen down when he said that and stopped taking note. that was very telling to me wolf. i don't think that anyone can overestimate how great it was. it was brilliant. people in the courthouse have been calling him mcdreamy. i'm sure they're calling him mcbrilliant now because it was that good. i've seen a lot of closing arguments and he's what prosecutors call a closer, wolf. you usually have someone that starts and someone that ends because you get two chances at a close, argument and the closer is the one who really has to
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bring it home. he did his job brilliantly. i don't think i've ever seen one quite that good. >> i'll play another clip and, jeffrey, listen to this because i want you to explain what was going on here. this is near the end of the prosecutor john guy's rebuttal, if you will, to what we heard from mark oma o'mara, the defen attorney, earlier in the day. >> this case is not about race. it's about right and wrong. it's that simple. and let me suggest to you how you know that for sure. ask yourselves all things being equal, if the roles were reversed and it was 28-year-old george zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie on to protect himself from the rain walking through that neighborhood and a 17-year-old
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driving around in a car who called the police, who had hate in their heart, hate in their mouth, hate in their actions, and if it was trayvon martin who had shot and killed george zimmerman, what would your verdict be? that's how you know it not about race. >> what did you make of that, jeffrey? >> i think it almost the opposite to what he was saying. in fact, when a -- the reason why this case drew national attention was because trayvon martin was a 17-year-old black kid minding his own business who got killed with a package of skittles, and we know that young black men are viewed by many white people as predators and they go to prison in greater
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numbers than white kid go to prison proportionally. so i think actually he was making the opposite point. it may actually have been favorable to him because he's saying don't treat african-americans as if their lives are different but to say it's not about race i think is not really accurate. >> jeffrey, stand by, everyone stand by. coming up, duelling styles and substance. we're comparing the defense and the prosecution, on this, the final day of the trial before deliberations. the powerful closing arguments. and later trayvon martin's father tells cnn what it was like to be inside that courtroom so close to the man who shot and killed his son. >> but what does matter are those significant -- ," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly with manufacturers," "eliminating costly markups,"
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jurors heard defense attorney mark o'mara deliver his close, argument for more than three hours today, conversational, relatively low key, his style clearly different from the prosecutor who gave his close the day before.
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he was very, very different. watch this. >> he's got two flashlights, he's got a gun. this kid is the one that's scared because this guy's following him. >> when i first got this case, i thought it was going to come and go in 20 minutes because when i found out that there was a 911 call with somebody screaming on it, it was game over. >> we're back with our legal analysts. let's talk a little bit about that different style. it was a very different style from john guy who did the rebuttal, the closing argument for the prosecution as well. jeffrey, i'll start with you. what was more effective? >> wolf, you tell me the verdict and i'll tell you which one was more effective. >> i can't tell you. i don't know the verdict. >> you know, they're just different. and both are obviously accomplished and there is no right or wrong way to give a
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summation. i think both of them worked for them. mark o'mara could not give a fire eating summation. that's not his personality, it's not how he conducts himself in the courtroom. i thought it worked very well for him. but you never know how a jury is going to react until you hear the verdict. >> what did you think, mark? >> they're all successful, they're all top of their game. you can't be somebody else. when you talk to fellow trial lawyers, first thing you tell everybody, be yourself. you take your best points and adjust accordingly. and jeffrey is exactly right. if one of them tried to be the other, they would fall flat on their face. they all had to just give their style. do i think it would have been a little more effective if o'mara had been a little more passionate on some of the points he wanted to drive home? yes. i think that nobody in the normal circumstances just listens to somebody talk at them for three hours. there was a bit of a break but it's just not natural to have a three hour just where it's a
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monologue and you're staring at somebody talking to you. i think that needed mixed up a little. i think bernie de la rionda was a little too fiery. who am i to tell them? they all did a good job up there. now it's up to the jury. >> he was professorial, giving a lot of history, a lot of background, mark o'mara we're talking about. sunny, some of the stuff he was getting in during the course of the three-week trial in the weeds but maybe he wanted to give those who want a not guilty verdict some ammunition. >> yeah, i think that that conversational style works quite well, somebody for someone like mark o'mara, who generally appears to be that kind of person. we've seen him be interviewed and he doesn't have that fiery
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type of personality. i was one of those prosecutors that was probably a little more like bernie, but i think mark and jeff are right, you have to be who you are. i do think that it came across a little professorial, perhaps a little slow, not that exciting. but when you're defending someone that's accused of violence and accused of killing someone, perhaps that is tactical, perhaps you don't want to be this fiery, aggressive person. answered think bernie could have put off some of the women because there were times when he was really very aggressive. john guy i think struck the right balance. he was right between the two. his cadence was on, his delivery was on, he was appropriately feisty when he needed to be. he was quiet when he needed to be. i think he struck the perfect balance between the two personalities. >> and john guy was the last lawyer that spoke to the jury before they went into their
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deliberations. let's continue this conversation. we've already spoken a little bit about the attorneyattorneys. but what about the judge? up next, how specific instructions to the jury could sway the outcome. we'll have some analysis of that. also, first on cnn, what will george zimmerman's life be like if he's acquitted? his attorney, mark o'mara, shares his thoughts in an interview with cnn. [ male announcer ] some things are designed to draw crowds. ♪ ♪ others are designed to leave them behind. ♪ the all-new 2014 lexus is. it's your move. the all-new 2014 lexus is. i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand.
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happening now the george zimmerman jury gets to work and makes a request. we'll go back over a key ininstruction the judge gave the members of the jury. also, zimmerman attorney mark
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o'mara tells us what he thinks of trayvon martin's parents. plus you're going to hear what trayvon martin's father is hoping for most from the jury. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." there are very specific guidelines under florida law for jurors to follow as they decide whether george zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder or guilty of manslaughter or if he's not guilty at all. judge debra nelson spelled all of that out in her instructions to the jurors before they began their deliberations about three hours ago. listen to her discuss the parameters for self-defense under the state's stand your ground law. >> if george zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground
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and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he reasonably believed it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. >> it's a pretty high hurdle. sunny, let me start with you. if they are going to convict, if they are going to find zimmerman guilty, here's a couple of questions that cries out to be answered. if george zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity. was george zimmerman at the time of the encounter engaged in an unlawful activity? >> yeah, i mean, that's definitely the question before the jury. you heard the defense argue it's not unlawful to follow someone, it's not unlawful to call the police on someone, it's not
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unlawful to think someone is a criminal. i think that was a strong argument for the defense. they were of course arguing that in light of the jury instruction. but i thought that the prosecution countered that extremely well by saying, yeah, well, he did cross the line because he was told not to followed, he followed, he pursued, he confronted. now of course the jury has to believe that. they have to believe that taking everything together made his actions unlawful. he went just a step too far. >> let me interrupt, sunny. even if the 911 operator said don't follow, would it be illegal if he then still followed? in other words, would it be an unlawful activity to disobey what the 911 operator said? >> i think it would depend on what his state of mind is, what the jury believes his state of mind is. if the jury believes, wolf, this he got out of his car with the intent that trayvon martin, one of these f'ing punks would not get away, yeah, that's very
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different from just following and observing and not confronting. that's a different set of circumstances. >> the other stipulation that judge nelson, and i'll bring mark in this, was he in a place when all this happened where he had a right to be? and the answer? >> the first one the answer was no, he was not breaking the law. and the second answer is, yes, he was legally allowed to be there. sunny's argument goes into the depraved mind, the evil intent and all that which gets weaved into the state's theory of prosecution but standing alone neither is illegal. that's a huge hurdle for the state to overcome. i've got with me the jury instructions, 27 pages. whether they will read them or not, we don't know. but they have them in the deliberation room with them. if they're going to stick to what the judge has instructed, it's a hard hurdle to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.
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if emotions take over and they are not dealing with this specifically, then that's where maybe a manslaughter conviction comes. but to answer your questions, he was legally doing what he was allowed to do. >> he was not, according to you, he was not engaged in an unlawful activity, he was attacked in a place he had a right to be. that's the argument the defense made. if he believed all of this, did he have the right to self-defense if he felt that he was endangered with great bodily harm, jeffrey? >> well, he had a right to self-defense but can i just talk about the emperor's new clothes here for a second? those instructions are nearly incomprehensible. jury instructions in general are nearly incomprehensible. it's not the judge's fault. she's required to give them. but i just am filled with sympathy for these jurors who have to -- i mean that, one sentence that she read, that must have had three or four negatives in it. it's just very hard to
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understand the legal gobbly-gook, we expect jurors to understand. >> less than a minute later she followed up with this instruction to the jury. i'll play the clip. >> in your consideration of the issue of self-defense, you have a reasonable doubt on the question of whether george zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you should find george zimmerman not guilty. if, however, from the evidence you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that george zimmerman was not justified in the use of deadly force, you should find him guilty if all the elements of the charge have been proved. >> jeffrey, that's another one that's if there's a little bit of doubt, if they're a little wishy washy, they have to find him not guilty. >> that seems to be the gist of it. it's not a little bit of doubt, eig it's a reasonable doubt. prosecutors are all emphasizing the word reasonable. it's not that the prosecution has to prove beyond any doubt in
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the world, is it beyond a reasonable doubt. the defense is always talking about the word doubt, the prosecution talks about the word reasonable. but again, you notice that when the judge was reading that, she left out the word "if" the first time. it's very hard to understand these instructions and it's a good thing that they have a copy in the jury room because this is tough stuff. >> i'm sure they'll be reading and rereading and rereading again those jury instructions they all have a copy of those 27 or so pages. stand by. there's much more to discuss, including george zimmerman's attorney in an interview you'll see here on cnn first. he tells us when he thinks race was injected into the case. plus hundreds of new charges, coming up today in a separate case in cleveland, the cleveland kidnappings. we have new information on that later. e chevys are moving fast. i'll take that malibu. yeah excuse me, the equinox in atlantis blue is mine!
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the six women in the jury of the george zimmerman trial have been deliberating now for about three hours, as we await the verdict. we're getting important analysis
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from zimmerman's lead attorney mark o'mara, insights you'll be seeing right here first on cnn. cnn's martin savidge sat down with o'mara before today's dramatic close, arguments and went over some of the most controversial moments of this trial. >> you took what i think some might consider risks during the trial. one of them being that you cross-examined a grieving mother. >> yes. >> any regrets on that? >> no. i hope that people think or i think that i handled it properly and respectfully. i have handled i think 40 or so murder cases and in every one of those murder cases you're going to have some interaction with a victim's family. >> you certainly would hope that your son trayvon martin did not that could have led to his own death, correct? >> had you done that before? had you talked to a grieving
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mother in another case? >> many times. many times. both in trial where i've cross-examined them and certainly outside of trial in a courtroom when trying to work out something that i could. it is just one of the -- one of the elements of being a criminal defense attorney, dealing with the victim's family, whether it's the victim of a burglary, robbery or in this case a death. you try to do it with sen sensitivity but you have to do it. >> you did it with tracy martin as well. that one didn't go as well. >> i didn't say that wasn't my son's voice. >> i think the state should have been him on. it was their witness, i think it was strange they didn't call the father of the victim but they didn't because tracy martin told
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two cops who testified that when he listened to the tape, that it was not his son. >> but that's not what he said on the stand. >> it's not but it is what two cops said that he said, no, that's not my son's voice. it's got to be extraordinarily difficult to be in tracy martin's shoes and sybrina fulton's shoes. they have to be able to go through life believing in their heart and in their soul that is trayvon martin's voice. >> is that what you meant -- i believe you asked this of trayvon's mother -- that she hoped to hear his voice? >> how could you not? we know being able to analyze it in the cold light of day, we know one of two things were evident, george zimmerman was screaming for help and trayvon martin murdered him, two,
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trayvon martin was being battered and if you're the friend, the mother, the father, how could you want it to be first alternative rather than the second? >> but then you turned it on her by saying that if it isn't your son, then you must come to the recognition that your son was doing what george zimmerman says he was doing. >> that's the other side of the same coin. was that a question too much? maybe i should look at the tape, i don't know. but i felt as though the jury had to hear and understand the sensitivities of what was going on in a grieving mother's mind when she's listening to a tape that meant one of two things. >> much has been made about race in this case. where do you see race in this case? >> i see race being injected into this case in the first week that it existed, and i see that it's never left this case, even
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though time and time and time again race has been proven not to have been an element in george's consideration that night. i see attorneys who say four weeks ago that this is the most significant civil rights trial of the century and then i see a partner, a week ago, saying race has nothing to do with this case. so i only wish that they would have said race has nothing to do with this case in let's say march 15th or march 16th, which was the day that they heard the tape. any time before they allowed the pressures and the animosities to ferment to the point where there was at least concerns over civil unrest, disobedience, riots, whatever you want to call it. >> this case to many is a cause. it's not just a case. these would be people who are very much in support of trayvon martin who believe that there was great wrong here.
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and in essence that this is a civil rights case, and i mean that in the full sense of advancing civil rights, you are perceived as the man standing in the way of this civil rights case. >> right. >> how do you handle that? >> very simply. i will walk over to that side, put my arm around those people and walk with them on a civil rights issue. i've represented young black males for 30 years. i know better than most people, most of the people who are complaining how young black males are treated in the criminal justice system and we need to fix it, we need to address those problems. it's not just in the systems, it's in the school, in the family, in the churches, in the homes. get your cross hairs off george zimmerman and i will join you. keep your cross hairs on george zimmerman and don't tell me that i'm getting in the way because you are, because you're the one
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sitting back telling me that this is a civil rights case when george had nothing to do with civil rights. this was an unfortunate event between two people. i want to walk down that path, i want to have a conversation. i've been asking for that conversation for over a year. let's talk about it. this is a great opportunity for that conversation, even if we didn't do it right, even if george zimmerman was not the poster child for racial improprieties for black males. now that it's at the forefront, let have it. but don't let that override mr. zimmerman's right to a fair trial. he's just not the racist you thought he was. my fear is that now that they've connected that conversation to his conviction, that his acquittal is going to be seen as a negative for civil rights. absolutely untrue. >> do you think that george zimmerman, your client, if he's acquitted, what kind of life will he have? >> not a good one.
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i think he has to live mostly in hiding. he's got to be able to protect himself from that periphery that still believe that he's some racist murderer and acted in a bad way and you don't know who they are. you don't know if they're down the street or across the country. i think that he's probably concerned about living still in central florida and never having a normal life. >> his life will never be the same? >> never, ever, ever be the same. >> never be able to go to work or have a regular job? >> i don't know how he gets a job where he is out in public without having the fear of somebody finding out where he works. >> you think someone will continue to want to hunt him, even if the jury says he's not guilty. >> we know at that there are crazies out there, there are people out there who don't listen to common sense, who doesn't act rationally. i can you a couple dozen e-mails who are vicious in their thoughts of george zimmerman and
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me. i don't know if one is going to walk down the street the same time george does. they know what he looks likes. he doesn't know what they look like. >> we asked the prosecutors if they wanted to speak with cnn. they declined for now. they will speak with hln after the verdict. during the next hour, you're going to hear what else mark o'mara has to say, this time about the judge who has tried to keep a firm hand on all the lawyers. once again, this is an interview first airing right here on cnn. up next, trayvon martin's father. he also speaks to cnn and tells us what it's like to be in court sitting so close to the man who killed his son.
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i can't say what's in his mind. i can't answer that. i don't know the individual. i know he profiled my son. >> this guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. >> why do you think he shot and killed trayvon? >> i don't know. i don't know. i really can't answer why he shot trayvon, you know? i don't know. >> is it difficult to be in the room with george zimmerman? >> very. very. it's difficult sitting there and seeing the killer of our child sit there with this fixed stare as if he did nothing. >> he's said some things, i want to get your reaction. and you were there when this was said in court. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son.
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i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am, and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> for him to say he was sorry and that he didn't know how young he was and he didn't know if he had a weapon, i just honestly i think that's a cop out. >> the 911 calls that were made by the neighbors, and those are difficult for you to listen to, the screams for help -- >> do you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> those were the last words that were uttered. that's real troublesome, just to listen to those. and i know that we're going to have to listen to the screams over and over again in the court. >> are you going to stay in the courtroom for all this? >> i'll be there as much as i can. there's only so much you can take.
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of what i would call bashing, victim bashing. >> reporter: what is the biggest lie that's been told about trayvon? >> the biggest lie told about trayvon, that to me is that he was a thug. >> george was viciously blindsided by a nose-breaking attack and then pinned to the ground by an experienced fighter who continuously and relentlessly attacked him. >> nobody knew or could fathom that the social media, the things he said on social media or the pictures, i'm sure at that time that he took those pictures he wasn't thinking, well, i'm going to get killed and these are going to be the pictures in every magazine. so just -- just public opinion of him being a thug, that's one of the biggest hypocritical
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lies. >> reporter: you say i don't want trayvon to die in vain. >> he didn't deserve to die. i pledge i will not let my son die in vain. >> what has to happen for him not to have died in vain? >> after the evidence is weighed, that a conviction comes out of this. justice needs to be served. >> powerful interview. please be sure to tune in later tonight, by the way, right here on cnn, 10:00 p.m. eastern, self-defense or murder, the george zimmerman trial. once again, 10:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. the jury certainly has been hard at work in asking questions. we're keeping an eye on developments inside the courthouse right now in sanford, florida.
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we'll get back to the zimmerman trial shortly. meanwhile, a huge indictment in the cleveland kidnapper case. what's the latest, mary? >> wolf, the grand jury considering the case against ariel castro issued an updated indictment today. he now faces a total of 977 counts connected to allegations he kidnapped three women and held them captive in his home for a decade. the indictments includes two counts of aggravated murder, accusing castro of intentionally causing the termination of a pregnancy. he will be arraigned next wednesday. >> wall street ended on a high note but it want easy. after being down much of the day, the dow industrials managed to turn things around and close at an all time high. the nasdaq closed at its highest level since 2000.
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and malala spoke today to a united nations youth assembly. she said she came to speak up for every child's right to get an education. >> the thought that the bullet would silence us but they failed. and out of the silence came thousands of voices. the terrorists thought that they would change my aims and stop my ambitions, but nothing changed in my life except this -- weakness, fear and hopelessness died. strength, power and courage was born. >> malala wore a shawl that once belonged to the lake pakistani prime minister benazir bhutto. wolf? >> powerful indeed.
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thanks very much. the nsa leaker announces he's seeking asylum from russia. and possible cancer increase. sanjay gupta investigates. i want to welcome our viewers. you're in "the situation room." >> the fate of george zimmerman is now in the hands of the jury. deliberations in his second degree murder trial began a few hours ago after the defense, the prosecution and the judge got in their final words. about 90 minutes ago the jury asked a question about seeing a list of the evidence, fairly common according to our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. earlier mark o'mara made the closing argument to acquit
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zimmerman. >> you look at these facts, you look at all this evidence, and you have to say i have a reasonable doubt as to whether or not the state convinced me he didn't act in self-defense. that's all you have to do. you don't have to write innocent on the bottom of the verdict form. >> the judge is now coming back into the courtroom. let's listen in. >> the jury would like to adjourn tonight, 5:50 -- or the note is at 5:50. let me reread it. the jury would like to adjourn tonight at 6 p.m., the jury would like to begin tomorrow at 9 a.m. if possible. anybody have any objections? >> no, your honor. >> no, your honor. >> i'm going to bring them in, give them their admonishment and release them until 9:00 a.m. let's go ahead and bring them
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in. >> they've ended their work for the day. so there you have it. you just heard the judge say the jury is ending its deliberations for the day and will resume at 9 a.m. eastern. the attorneys on both sides had no problems with that. she's bringing the six members of the jury back in. she will admonish them as she does every day. let's hear what she's saying right now. she's still waiting. she's still waiting for the jury to come in. quickly, jeffrey, are you surprised that they've wrapped it up for the day? >> not at all. if they were asking for a list of the exhibits, that means they're just getting started. so it was quite clear they were not going to wrap things up today. 6 p.m. is a reasonable time to start, 9 a.m. is a reasonable
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time to start tomorrow. er that -- they're doing their work. >> i always like to listen to the judge. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. we're going to go ahead and adjourn for the day. so will you be going into recess overnight. i just want to give you my admonitions before you recess for the evening. during the overnight recess, you're not to talk about the case amongst yourselves or with anybody else. although you are in the deliberation stage, your deliberations are only going to occur while you're here in court in the jury room. so do not discuss the case amongst yourselves or with anybody else overnight. do not read or listen to any radio, television or newspaper reports about the case. do not use any type of electron being device to get on the internet, to do any independent research about the case, people, place or things or terminology. do not read any e-mails, text messages, tweets, blogs, social
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networking pages about the case. your notes will be locked in the jury room. you will not be allowed to take them back with you. tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. i will bring you back into the courtroom to begin court and then we will go back in recess. will all of you abide by the instructions i have given you? >> yes, your honor. >> okay with, that, please follow deputy jarvis. please be seated. is there anything else that we need to take care of before we recess for the evening? >> no thank you, your honor. >> thank you very much. we'll see you at 9 a.m.
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>> no-nonsense judge. debra nelson. they've recessed for the day, the jury and the courtroom. they deliberated, if you're interested in this and you should be if you're interested in this case, they deliberated for three hours, and 33 minutes today and will resume deliberations tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. earlier this hour we heard mark o'mara deliver a little bit of his close, argument. he's the defense attorney for george zimmerman. the assistant state's attorney john guy had the last word. he rebutted and he spoke about trayvon martin's -- involving trayvon martin's name for a final time. >> to the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe the truth. what do we owe trayvon martin? 16 years and 21 days forever.
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he was a son, he was a brother, he was a friend, and the last thing he did on this earth was try to get home. this is the dead. the self-serving statements, the lies from his own mouth and the hate i his heart, words that they can't now take back. the physical evidence which refutes his lies and the law that her honor is about to read to you, the law that applies to all of us and the law that applies to each of us, this is
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the truth. >> judge nelson had the final words as she instructed the six women on the jury. >> your verdict finding george zimmerman either guilty or not guilty must be unanimous. the verdict must be the verdict of each juror, as well as the jury as a whole. >> that's a strong admonition. let's go to sanford, florida. martin savidge has been watching this from the very beginning. it's got to be 6-0. can't be 3-3, 5-1. 6-0, either guilty or not guilty. that's the charge this jury has. there are six members of the jury. they're deliberating and will resume tomorrow. >> right. and there's two considerations they have, which is of course second degree murder or manslaughter. and i think it has been the concern for the defense that the manslaughter charge could possibly be considered as a compromise charge, at least again in the minds of the
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defense the jury could say it's not going to be murder but we have a young person who is dead and thereby manslaughter seems like a way to sort of compromise. of course what mark o'mara said in his summation self-defense works for everything. self-defense is what they say, self-defense would apply whether it was murder or manslaughter. that's what he has argued so strongly. but it's interesting, as jeffrey pointed out, we've gone into deliberations and it appears that this jury is now looking at maybe the long haul. maybe it's tomorrow, maybe not. but they certainly are asking now for a list of the evidence. they want a description of all the evidence. i would have thought by now they probably had polled amongst themselves and maybe there is some division so they realize they've got a long haul and they should get some rest, pick it up at 9:00 tomorrow morning. >> they've been doing it for a while, they want to do it right. they don't want to take any chances at all. martin, don't go too far away. let's assess what's going on
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with sunny hostin, jeffrey toobin and page. page, first of all, what was your bottom line assessment on, this the final day of arguments? >> it was a long day for the jury and i'm not at all surprised they were ready to go home at 6:00. i think the lawyers did a great job. i think the state, the prosecution had to bring emotion back into this case. they certainly tried to do that. mr. guy's rebuttal closing argument was fantastic. for the first time in a long time the jury was asked to step into the shoes of trayvon martin. up to this point in the trial, everybody eaves betrial, everybody's been focused on what was george zimmerman doing, what was he thinking. i think it was important to remind the jury we were here because trayvon martin is dead. >> listen to mark o'mara. he also had this message to the women of the jury. listen to this. >> a dead person on a slab has an impact on you.
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i would say that maybe one of you, maybe, have looked at a picture like that before this trial. maybe one. it has an impact. the other thing about autopsy photographs is that there's no muscle tone. because there's no nerves, there's no movement. he's lost half his blood, we know that. so on that picture that we have of him on the medical examiner's table, he does look emaciated. but here's him three months before that night. so it's in evidence. take a look at it because this is the person and this is the person who george zimmerman encountered that night.
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this is the person who all of the evidence was attacked or attacked george zimmerman and battered him. and the state may say maybe it was just a drain box and there was no intent to hurt there by trayvon martin because it was just coincidence that he was bashing his head on something hard and it was a drain box. really? come on. really? >> what did you think of that argument, sunny? >> well, you know, i think mark o'mara is a fine lawyer. i didn't see a lot of reaction from the jury. you did see sybrina fulton walk out in the middle of it. she seemed upset. she seemed offended. i'm not so sure that it resonated that much, but it was an appropriate argument to make. i don't think it was inappropriate to say this is what he looked like not being on
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a slab, but, again, you know, he was killed by george zimmerman, whether or not it was murder or justifiable homicide is the question. so i think to call attention to the fact that trayvon martin was, you know, on an autopsy slab, i don't know that it was that effective. >> jeffrey, listen to this. this is john guy, one of the prosecutors, making an important point before the jury. let me play the clip. >> and if there was ever any doubt about what happened, really happened, was it not completely removed by what the defendant said afterwards, all of the lies he told, all of them. what does that tell you? there's only two people on this earth who know what really
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happened, and one of them can't testify and the other one lied. not about little things like his age or whether or not he went to the hospital but about the things that really, truly mattered. >> jeffrey, how effective was that? >> well, this was the biggest contrast between the prosecution and the defense. both yesterday and today the prosecution spent an enormous amount of time on the statements of george zimmerman and saying his lies prove that he knew -- he was guilty. today mark o'mara sort of blew the issue off. he said these aren't significant lies. they are somewhat different tellings and as you heard from witnesses, people tell things slightly different each time. i did not think these lies were so dramatic that they proved george zimmerman was guilty, but the prosecution put a lot of
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stock in it and the jury certainly will remember that the prosecution claims the lies prove that he knew he had a guilty conscience. >> page, were the lies significant? >> not necessarily. but many times a jury will look at a potential witness, a defendant, and believe that if they lied about little things, minor inconsistencies, then maybe they're lying about the big stuff, too. i think the state had to do this. this is the whole reason they put mr. zimmerman's prior statements into evidence. i think this is a mistakes because then the state did not have to call him. it would have been much more effective if you are cross-examining hmm at trial. all they can do is reference those statements and try to get the jury to think if he's inconsistent about minor things, you can't believe any of his story and that's not the way it went down. >> i'm going to have our legal analysts all stand by.
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disturbing news coming out of that asiana plane crash that occurred last saturday. let's go to san francisco. dan simon is standing by. what's the latest, dan? >> reporter: wolf, sadly we just found out that a third victim has in fact died as a result of this plane crash. this is a girl, she's said to be a minor. she was pronounced dead earlier today. she had been at san francisco general hospital since the time of the crash. she had had critical injuries and unfortunately she is dead. that brings us now to three victims who died. we also know that one of the girls, one of the chinese girls who also died in this crash was in fact run over by an emergency vehicle. authorities confirming that today. it's not clear if that's what caused her death or she died as a result of the crash. the coroners still need to make a determination. meantime, wolf, we can tell you that the area on 28 runway left where the crash occurred here at san francisco international airport has been entirely
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cleaned up. we just took a tour of that area. the fuselage has been removed. san francisco authorities tell us that runway could be open as early as tonight so operations resuming back to normal here at san francisco international airport. as for the investigation itself, wolf, we know that authorities have not found any mechanical issues with that aircraft. that's going to lead to a lot more speculation that the pilots are somehow to blame for this crash. >> disturbing news indeed, a third death in that plane crash. dan simon reporting. thank you. >> meanwhile, a fire broke out today on a boeing 787 dreamliner parked at london's heathrow airport. there were no injuries. this could mean a new crisis for boeing. while the cause of the fire is not clear, the dreamliners were grounded this year because of a fire risk tied to the plane's batteries. boeing had to make changes before the planes could rrn to the skies. in a separaaccepseparate incide
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plane returned to the airport after what is called a technical issue. boeing shares today sank 5% today on wall street. >> a horrifying crash today south of paris, at least six killed, 22 others severely injured when a regional passenger train derailed. the train was passing through a station at high speed when four cars left the tracks. part of the mangled train ended up on the station platform. the crash of the plane is unknown. the french president went to the scene in the midst of the rescue operations and announced three investigations are being opened. up next first on cnn, the zimmerman defense attorney, mark o'mara is speaking out about the prosecutor's style and about the jury. we have the interview. >> and the world gets a fresh look at the nsa leaker edward snowden. he's still hold up at a moscow airport. what he hopes to do next.
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happening now, george zimmerman's defense attorney mark o'mara tells cnn what he
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thinks about the prosecutor and the jury. for the first time in weeks we're getting a look at the nsa leaker, edward snowden, as he emerges with a dramatic chang in strategy. and do fish oil supplements actually raise the risk of prostate cancer? a new study raising some serious concerns. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> day one of jury deliberations in the george zimmerman trial now over. the jury asked to be dismissed around 6 p.m. eastern after deliberating about three and a half hours. they'll resume tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. eastern. first on cnn, george zimmerman's attorney speaking candidly about his client, the trial and some of the key players. he sat down with cnn's martin savidge in sanford, florida. >> reporter: bernie de la rionda. what do you think of him? >> he's a career prosecutor who i've never been up against
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before, and he handles his caseload different than i ever did as a prosecutor, and i have concerns about the discovery perspective. i think that my view of things like brady and other information that we're supposed to get from prosecutors is at the very least a much different definition that he has. >> reporter: so is that he's a snake? he's a liar? >> i think that he has a -- i think he's probably more used to running against public defenders in cases that he gets to cherry pick and that he has overwhelming evidence and that some of the nuances of how he handles discovery don't come to light. i don't think that don and i have presented ourselves as couple of young public defenders. >> reporter: judge debra nelson. there are people who watch. there are people watching on
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television would say that he hates you or hates the defense. >> she doesn't. she doesn't hate me or the defense. >> reporter: the side bars, people look at that and of course we don't hear it. we only see. it seems terse, it seems awkward, it seems like many of the rulings went against the defense. so it would be wrong to say that the judge doesn't like you personally? >> it would be wrong. actually, i know debra nelson -- judge nelson for years and years. she's been on the bench for a long time. she's known to be stern and strict and to know the law. i will tell you and i'm just not placating her, you will note that even though the rulings didn't go our way like i would like them to, she was always well prepared, she does her case law research, she does her homework. you mention a case, she knows the case. those are the signs of a very good judge. >> and full days every day, weekends, depositions at night.
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>> the walk-out? >> frustrating at 10:00 at night. frustrated at 10:00 at night. i think a lot of people were acting out of frustration at that 10:00 hearing. so, you know, she's human. she's got a jury out there, she's got a high-profile case, she's got a lot of animosity between the parties that is fairly apparent and she's trying to do everything she can to keep the peace and to protect her jury from undue influence. so she's got a very tough job. >> let's bring back our experts, our legal analyst sunny hostin and the criminal defense attorney page pate. what do you think about the relationship between the attorneys on both sides and the judge? >> in this case i really think the relationship has been fairly good. they've all been professional. i think we can expect a certain amount of stress to go along with almost any criminal trial, especially one like this where everyone in the world is literally watching. so it's a fine line. the judge has to keep things
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moving along, and i certainly think she's done that in this case but also be fair, let both parties present their case and governor them every opportunity that they need within the law. and i think she's done that. >> give as you little flavor, sunny. what's it like living and breathing in a high-profile case like this over not just a few weeks but months and months and months. >> it's really something. i mean, i will say that being in the courtroom you feel the pressure. i also remember feeling tremendous pressure. eight very difficult thing to try a criminal case with someone's liberty at stake. it's just -- it a pressure cooker. and you could see that playing out as the trial went along. and i will say now on verdict watch for me, this was the worst part. because everything is out of your hands as an attorney. there's nothing that you can do. so you're doing this should have, would have, could have in your mind, could i have done this better, should have i done this, i maybe should have done this but there's nothing else that you can do but wait.
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so, you know, it certainly is a difficult thing. i will say what was surprising to me in mark o'mara's interview is he mentioned there was real animosity between the parties. yes, you're adversaries as attorneys and yes, you get into it and you argue points of law, but it seems as if these folks don't really like each other. so it's gone beyond just the adversarial process and there is a real discourt there. i thought that that was interesting. >> and you did have some word in the exchange in their closing arguments. here's a little bit more of the interview that o'mara gave martin savidge. watch this. >> let's talk about the make-up of the jury. >> okay. >> first of all, it's six people. >> yes. >> it's six women. >> yes. >> one person of color and five who are mothers, correct? >> yes. >> interesting because of course the jury selection process is very intriguing to me. i enjoy the process.
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>> reporter: is that the jury you wanted? >> yes. in this way -- when we were going through, it i was surprised that the state struck the first black male that they struck. i was surprised by that. once they had done that, then they seemed to be moving down the path of getting rid of a bunch of white women and i think that's inappropriate. and i challenged them on that and the judge agreed with me that they were removing women, white women, because they were white women so we ended up having two more on and that brought us up to four. then we went further down the list. so in my perfect jury, i would like more of a demographic switch, maybe more males, but i'm very okay with the six people that we have now for reasons that we talked about. i think they're very attentive and all listening. >> reporter: do you think maybe a man might take the self-defense, hear that differently than say five women or six women, five of whom are mothers? >> it's so hard to say. have i been batting about zero
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in picking what jurors are going to do and what they're thinking. my greatest failing is i wish i could get inside a jury room just once. but having said that, you know, i think the women are going to be very sensitized to the fact that a son has been lost, trayvon martin has been lost. and that's going to be a sensitivity they have. on the other hand, i think they're going to be very aware of what it's like to be in a situation where you might be victimized and have to react to that. so i think they're a good panel. >> they have been very attentive. i can see that from seeing that myself. >> reporte >> very engaged. >> sunny, you can confirm that. you spent a lot of time inside that courtroom. those six women seem to be very engaged. >> among the most engaged i've seen. often times you always get one or two jurors that are kind of nodding off and closing their eyes, especially during some of
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the really wonky kind of testimony that comes in with experts. i never saw that, wolf. i mean, i had my eyes on them. they were just from the very beginning alert, listening, taking notes, looking at exhibits, leaning in. i just, i never saw one juror not paying attention to the evidence. and that's unusual. this wasn't a long, long trial like some of the trials we've covered, but it was long enough with long enough days. and i think what was also interesting is they always wanted to keep on going. they always wanted to go forward. so i was very surprised today when they said at 6:00 i've had enough, i'm going to start out fresh tomorrow morning. i thought this was the kind of jury given what they've been doing all throughout that maybe would stay a little bit later. so that may be telling. >> well, they were deliberating for three and a half hours, 3:33 to be precise, this after spending all morning and the early afternoon listening to closing arguments, a half hour
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listening to the judge provide instructions. maybe they want to get a good night's sleep and then resume tomorrow. >> maybe. >> it's interesting, page. we did some checking on amount of time in major cases, high-profile cases, recent ones, the juries deliberated before they did the decision. in the jodi arias trial, the jury took nearly 15 hours, guilty of first degree murder, casey anthony trial, the jury took more than ten hours, acquitted of first degree murder, back in '95 in the o.j. simpson trial, the jury took less than four hours, acquitted of two counts of murder. the longer -- is there a rule of thumb among lawyers, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, the longer a jury deliberates, the more or the less likely of acquittal or a guilty verdict? >> you know, that's a great question. i've been trying criminal cases now for 20 years and i can't figure it out. i've had juries come back and found my clients not guilty and
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they've done it very quickly and then i've had jurors come back -- or basically stay out days, stay out longer than the trial lasted. you know what it does indicate to me, though, is they're spending a lot of time with the case. in my experience, talking to jurors after a trial is over with, you normally find that they want to do their job and they want to do it the right way. i think that's why they asked for this inventory list. they're going to go through this stuff, they're going to be me methodical, they know trayvon's family has been in the court every day. this case matters. it matters to them, the lawyers. they're going to take their time. i don't think how long they stay out is really indicative of their ultimate verdict. >> sunny, the judge told them it has to be unanimous, a 6-0 decision by these six jurors. it can't be 5-1, 4-3. this is not a majority kind of issue, it's got to be unanimous. what happens, five people let's say hypothetically, they think
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he's guilty of one of these charges, either manslaughter or second degree murder, but one holds out and holds out and holds out and it's a hung jury. that's possible, isn't it? >> yeah, it is possible, especially with a case like this, given the facts. if they go in front of this judge and they say, listen, you know, we've reached an impasse, generally what the judge will do is charge them again. the charge goes something like this -- i know it's been hard, i know it's been long but please go back, try to deliberate again, try to reach a consensus. don't be so firmly rooted in your opinions that you can't see other people's opinions. keep an open mind, listen to your fellow jurors and sort of -- we called it an allen charge. just send it back and ask them to try again. if they come back and say, listen, we can't reach a verdict, then most judges will dismiss them, call this hung jury and the state try it is again. i think that's almost the worst
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case scenario for a case like this because you're talking about another trial, more jury selection, wolf, we'll be talking about it again. >> but, sunny, the state doesn't necessarily have to try it again. they can forget about it if they want, right? >> that's true. i don't think that that would happen in a case like this, not in a second degree murder case. no way. >> quickly, page, what do you think? >> i wanted to add one thing that's unique in had case. if this trial were tried in federal court, we would have 12 jurors in that jury. the possibility of a hung jury much higher. i think these circumstance jurors are tight, they're close now, they've been through a lot. i think we're going to see a consensus verdict here. >> page pate and sunny hostin, we'll see what happens tomorrow. of course cnn will have live coverage of all of this.
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appearing publicly for the first time since he's been hold up in a moscow transit zone. cnn's phil black is in moscow. >> reporter: it was a surprise move by edward snowden to call this meeting at the airport, it and had a surprise outcome. a dramatic change in strategy that perhaps shows edward snowden is running out of options. this is the first video of edward snowden since he fled hong kong and arrived at the moscow's airport. >> a little over one month ago i had a family, a home in paradise and i lived in great comfort. >> reporter: after camping out somewhere in the transit area for almost three weeks, he invited a group of russian human rights activists to meet him. those activists listened, asked questions and returned after less than an hour, announcing snowden had significantly changed his intentions. he now officially wants political asylum in russia, but only temporarily. >> his plans are to move on.
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he wants to move on to latin america, but he feels the only way he's going to be safe in russia is to get an asylum in this country. that's what he's planning to do. >> reporter: he told them he's changed his plans because he has little chase. >> he says that the united states -- the u.s. government will do whatever it takes not to let him go to latin american countries. >> reporter: those at the meetings say snowden asked them to lobby the russian government to grant his asylum application. some of them have promised to do so. >> he wants to be free. it's nature and he is not a criminal now. >> reporter: he withdrew an earlier application for asylum in this country because president putin said he would have to stop all political activity aimed at harming the united states. now the people who met with snowden here at the airport say he's promised to live up to that condition. wolf? >> thank you. russian weapons were apparently the target of israeli strikes in syria last week.
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cancer in the men who had the most omega 3 fatty acids in their blood, there was a 43% risk of prostate cancer, overall. the surprising thing for a lot of people, it made no sense to idea why omega 3 fatty acids may be causing this. we know that they typically reduce inflammation in the body and the blood and it should reduce the risk of prostate cancer. and the other point, wolf, very important, there is no cause and effect relationship here. it is unclear to say that people who take the omega 3 fatty acids, that it is causing the prostate cancer. but it appears there is something going on here, that will be worthy of another study. the doctors looking at the previous studies of omega 3 fatty acids and the prostate cancer, just how much should they take of the omega 3's, if
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at all. just basically maintaining a healthy diet and exercising. but wolf, we'll have more in the coming months and will certainly bring it to you. >> excellent advice from dr. sanjay gupta. we'll stay on top of this. and an industry trade group quotes the numerous benefits of the omega 3 fatty acids are well established for men and women in all stages of life. just ahead, what if hungry sharks got swept up in a tornado and unleashed bloody havoc in southern california. well, somebody already thought of it. they turned itnto a movie, and the twitter world can't get enough of it. ♪ [ male announcer ] some things are designed to draw crowds. ♪ ♪
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what do you get when you combine sharks and a tornado? here is cnn's jake tapper. >> reporter: in a way this all started decades ago, with these few notes, and this key phrase. >> you're going to need a bigger boat. >> reporter: the year was 1975. and jaws expertly herded millions of us out of the water and into the shark scene. years later, even the feeding frenzy follows the smallest drop of blood, and many couldn't predict how silly it would all get. >> you know, i have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with fricking laser beams attached to their heads. >> reporter: oh, doctor, you will need a bigger imagination. >> what do we have?
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>> reporter: well, in the last few years, we had sharks in a swamp, shark news tlooed, sorry, samuel l. jackson, no sharks on the plane. but they were lured into the latest bloodbath, sharknado, a twister with two feet of projectile. >> they envisioned a movie that was not as solid as we thought. in order to do that you have to have a foe that is worthy of us. >> reporter: it was a cultural phenomenon. the unlikely subject was the top trend on twitter last night. hash tag sharknado reached more than 5,000 tweets per minute at one point, in a prayer-like mantra, actress mia farrow even
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tweeted, omg, omg. and cory booker got fired up, saying there was no room for guppies. it was not the first low-budget wonder throwing the creatures into the air. surely you remember sharktopus. how about dinoshark? well, if you haven't seen them you should ask the 5 million people who have. yes, it is almost as unbelievable as the premises themselves. they had nearly as many viewers as the season six finale of mad men. >> i never seen so many of them. >> reporter: so how did we get here to this land of film where ian zeiring is our only hope? well, profits, of course. with a budget of roughly $2 million each, and more than equal that number, the sci-fi network. >> these movies are made very
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deliberately to be the kind of movies they are, and i think they succeed for the most part. the unpretentiousness is part of the appeal. >> reporter: you will need to get yourself a bigger dvr, they have fans, and they will keep popping up everywhere. jake tapper, cnn, washington. and erin burnett "out front" starts right now. up front, next, george zimmerman's fate in the jury's hands, who are the six women to decide his fate. plus, the interview with mark o'mara, he tells us what he really thinks of the judge and prosecutor in the case. and just moments ago, a big development in the crash of the asiana in san francisco. let's go out front. >> and g