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nothing in his background would have caused to set off any alarm bells. he was well liked by most of the people he knew. he was a hard worker with a ready smile. >> i do not say anything bad at him. just did not seem to be the type of person. normal, regular, everyone here liked him. most of those cannot believe that he was accused of killing john lennon. >> everyone said he was a nice person, not capable of doing something like this. it was a tragic conclusion to an extraordinary life. john lennon, co-founder of the legendary beetles was gone.
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during the 1960s, the beetles were the biggest rock group in the world, they are popularity was unparalleled. >> they spoke to teenagers in the 60s that many bands did not. they influenced people in so many ways, they were the touch stone for everything that was going on in the' 60s. >> among the millions american kids that worshipped the beetles was a shy teenager. he was a fan of john lennon. during their hey day, the peelths beetles were open about their experiments with drugs. and like the beetles, he was experimenting. >> the defendant described that there was periods of time in his life when he was more of a hippy
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nature, tried experimental drugs as many people of the time did. >> in 1971, chap man becomes a born again christian, he quits drugs and rejects rock and roll, the beatles and john lennon in particular. >> i became a christian and that was about a year of genuine walking with him, through my life off and on, i have struggled with different things as we all do, and at those times i turned to the lord. >> chapman's new found faith comes into conflict with his feelings of his former idol. according to friends, he was bothered by lennon's song "god," where he said he does not believe in jesus, and the hit imagine, imagine there's no countries and no religion too, chapman wrote his own words to the song with the altered lyric, imagine john lennon, dead. >> the defendant claimed that he
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was offended by the statement that john lennon had made that the beatles were more popular than jesus christ. >> it was an off the cuff comment during an interview, and it caused a lasting upset. >> people in the bible belt, young and old, took this comment to be that you are bigger than god, bigger than jesus, and he was totally misquoted. what he meant to say was that more people paid attention to the beatles than paid attention to jesus. he was not putting context to that. >> the beatles weather the storm, but in 1970, the band bureaucr breaks up and lennon embarks on
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a solo career with his wife. they move to new york city and take up residence at the dakota apartments. the apartments were featured in "rosemary's baby," it was home to many actors and musicians. >> they viewed america as being breath of fresh air for them at that time. little did they know what trouble awaits them. in new york, john and yoko adopted a high profile politically and musically. perhaps inevitably, the anti-activism drew the attention of nixon, they were trying silence him, they were worried that he would influence young people that were going to be voting in up the coming election and they did not want that. >> they were conducting surveillance operations.
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they were monitoring him, cars would follow him around. they did the whole intelligence thing. >> after nixon was drinch from office by the watergate scandal, the pressure on lennon let up and by 1975, he had withdrawn from the public eye. he was not in hiding, he was not a recluse, what he was doing, was devoting full time to raising his son, sean. that was his priority. during those days, lennon and ono became familiar figures in their neighborhood. he liked the informality of new york, he liked the ability to walk. >> you would hear stories about how john would be walking with his family down the street and people could walk up to him and people asked what it's like living in manhattan, and he said
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people are cool, they did not argue. he loved new york because people did not argue him. they respected his privacy and liked him. they would say, how is it going, shake his hand and say, i love your music or something, they did not pester hip. in november, 1980, lennon emerged with a release of double fantasy. an album he recorded, lennon had just turned 40. to many, it seemed that john lennon had entered a promising new phase. but this image of a happy contented husband and father would serve to enrage a young man in hawaii, a once devoted fan, mark david chapman. >> he was in the house, sitting naked in front of his stereo, listening to really loud beatles music and invoking satan to help him have the power to kill john lennon. ♪
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lennon, mark david chapman was oj 25 years old. >> there was nothing that we learned from the interviews and investigation of the defendant's background that suggested that he was much different than any other 25-year-old person. at least on the surface is, he grew up in georgia, the older of two children in what seemed to be a normal suburb family. >> the defense said that he had a less than ideal relationship with his father, and had a rough background, but there was nothing in his background that showed a mental disease or defect caused by a childhood trauma. >> after high school, chapman begins to drift through a series of jobs. and half-hearted attempts at college. in 1977 he flies to hawaii where he tries to kill himself, and reportedly tries weiss and
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fails. chapman stays in hawaii, and over the next three years is hospitalized at least once, gets married, takes a job in a print shop and quits and then goes to work in a luxury high rise condo as a security guard. he is obsessed with j.d. salinger's "catcher in the rye". he is taken with the pro tagonist of the book. he was coming unhinged. >> the catcher and the rye, a book admired by millions i wonder if he is thinking, if he is watching this. >> in 1992, larry king interviewed mark chapman, via a remote feed from the prison. >> mark, why do you blame a book? >> i'm not blaming a book, i blame myself for crawling inside
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of the book and i certainly want to say that j.d. salinger and "the catcher in the rye" did not cause me to kill john lennon. i wrote to j.d. salinger and apologized to him for this. >> he turns his resentment against phonies towards john lennon when he reads about the up coming release of double fantasy. >> this started when i got angry at lennon, i saw a boom showing him on the roof of the dakota. you know the dakota, it's a nice building. and falling in on myself, i'm angry at seeing him on the dakota. and i say to myself, that phony. that bastard, i got that mad, i took the book home to my wife, and i said, he is a phony. >> this is his calendar and it leads you all the way through
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his manic, nuts before lennon's death. >> james gaines spent hundreds of hours interviewing mark chapman. and you can see it becomes crazier and crazier with crosses out and things to do. >> chapman told gaines that for years his mind was like a war zone, occupied by opposing forces he described as the big people and the little people. >> he had a whole population of little people living in his head to whom he gave instructions and who had meetings on what he said they should meet about. it was extreme. >> he buys a special resolver. >> the gun was traced to j and s enterprises a gun shot a block away from the honolulu police department. the sales receipt shows that the
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gun was purchased by mark chapman and he paid $197 in catch for the gun. -- in cash for the gun. >> chapman quit his job as a security guard, when he signed out for the last time, he inscribed the name john lennon in the condo's log book and crossed it out. six days later on october 29th, mark chapman flies to new york city. armed with the gun he bought in hawaii, he stakes out the dakota, waiting for his chance to take revenge on the hero he believes has betrayed him. but john lennon is not the only potential victim. chapman it seems has back ups. >> so, he brought the gun with him, came to new york, and had planned at that point, to kill someone who was a celebrity. in order to bring attention to himself. >> lennon was not his only target, he had a lift of
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lennon arrives in new york city. he goes to the da kkota shortly before noon, he will spend the next two days waiting for jon lennon. >> who was mark david chapman? >> on december 8th, 1980, mark david chapman, was a confused person, and living inside of a paperback novel. he was moving from a suicide to catching the first taxi home between killing, as you said is, an icon. >> he checks in with his wife back hawaii, after hanging up, chapman takes the bible out of the suitcase and turns to the new testament book of john, and
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writes the word lennon. he heads back to the dakota. >> i had the idea that this was the last time i would leave my hotel room. i had not seen him up to that point, that is what is interesting, i was not sure he was in the building. i left the hotel room, and bought a copy of "the catcher in the rye" and signed it and wrote underneath this, this is my statement, under lining the word this, the emphasis on the word this. i had planned to not say anything after the shooting. that morning, chapman meets another fan, named paul gorish, he had come to know lennon personally. one of his photos was later used as the cover for lennon's single, "watching the wheels." >> when i got there, there was a guy standing outside the archway, on the right side as you went in, he was standing there holding a couple of "double fantasy" in his left arm, and he approached me and he said, are you waiting for lennon
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and i said yeah, and he said do you work for john? and i said no. and he said, oh, he said my name is mark. he said, i'm from hawaii. what struck me strange is when he said that, he had a southern accent. is so i said, if you are from hawaii how come you have a southern accenaccent, he said originally i'm from georgia, and i said, oh, well where are you staying while you are in the city and with that, he turned to me and said, why do you want to know. >> shortly that lennon and ono left for the last recording session. chapman hands lennon his copy of double fantasy. >> mark came up on john's left and held out the album, and john turned and looked at him and he said do you want me to sign that and he nodded and john took the album and john said do you have a pen? and he handed him a pen, and
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john started to sign the album, i had my camera on my neck. it looked like a good picture approximat approxima, so i looked through the view finder and i took the photo. that was the photo of john signing the album for his killer. >> and he looked at me and he said, is that all? do you want anything else? and i felt then and now that he knew something subconsciously that he was looking into the eyes of the person that was going to kill him. >> once lennon and ono leave for the recording studio, only chapman, gorish and the dakota doorman remain. around 8:00 p.m., gorish calls it a night. the guy mark came over to me and said, are you leaving and i said yeah, and he said, well i don't know if should leave, you may not see him again. i said i see him all the time.
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and he said, he may go to spain, and you may never see him again. >> i wanted him to stay so i would not stay. >> after gorish leaves, chapman waits patiently for 2-1/2 hours in front of the dakota. >> i was sitting inside of the arch of the building and it was dark and windy, jose the doorman was out along the sidewalk. and i see this limo pull up and i said, this is it and i stood up and yoko got out, and john was far behind, say 20 feet and he got out. i nodded to yoko when she walked by me, and john came out and he looked at me and i think he recognized. here is the fella that i signed the album earlier. and he walked past me, i took
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>> i did not know if the bullets were going to work. and when they worked i remember thinking, they are working, they are working. >> five bullets, the first misses, hitting a wind of the dakota and the next to hit lennon's side and two more hit his left shoulder, mortally wounded he staggered up five steps to the reception area and collapses. >> i stood there with the gun hanging limply down on my right side and jose the doorman came over and he is crying and he is grabbing my arm and shaking my arm and he shook the gun out of my hand and he kicked the gun across the pavement and had someone take it away and i was just stunned. i didn't know what to do. i took "the catcher and the rye" out of my pocket, i paced. i tried to read it. i could not wait until the
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police got there. i was just devastated. >> the first policemen are on the scene in two minutes and take control of chapman. just after, two more officers arrive and immediately rush to aid lennon. >> the officers carried him to a radio car to take him to the hospital. because there was no ambulance on the way at that time. and my partner and i took chapman and put him in the radio car and take him to the station house and read him his rights. >> dr. steven lynn is on call. >> two police officers came rushing through the front door litd rallily carrying over one of their shoulders a limp body, they said, dr. lin, we cannot get vital signs. >> also there was a young producer that had been in a motorcycle accident. >> a police officer ran in saying it was a gun shot, a gun
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shot in the chest. at that moment, a stretcher was wheeled in. 6-8 police officers around it rushing it back as fast as they could. there was no pulse or blood pressure, we had an unresponsive patient. >> and they brought him to the room that i was lying outside of. the doctor ran in and medical people ran in, they pulled the curtain. >> we did not know who our patient was at that moment in time, it was not until the nurses took the wallet out of his pocket and one said is, this says john lennon. >> and another said to one of the police officers, it's john lennon. >> we looked at the body in front of us and all of us said, this cannot possibly be john lennon and in fact it was. >> i hear sobbing behind me and i see a woman being brought in by a police officer. and i asked the police officer who was that and he said it was
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yoko ono. >> the only option, the only way we could give him a possibility of surviving was to make an incision in his chest and to see if there was a way to stop the bleeding. and the most vivid memory of john's chest being open and it's just blood. literallily saw the doctors hands inside his chest. >> we open the chest and we found a chest full of blood. all of the blood vessels were completely destroyed, we pumped fluid into the heart, and we held john lennon's heart in my hand, we massaged the heart and tried to restore flow, there was nothing that we could do. we pronounced john lennon dead on arrival at the roosevelt hospital that evening. silence fell over the emergency department, staff began to cry, we did not know quite how to respond or react. and it became my job to walk
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down to the end of the hall to talk to yoko ono. i think she knew as soon as i entered the door what i was going to say. >> there was muzak playing and it was about ten after 11, the song, all my loving starts to play. and the song ends a minute, two minutes later, there's a scream, a shrill woman's voice screaming, no, no, no, no oh, no. it was a minute, minute and a half, and it was repeated. and then silence. and finally the head nurse brought in her husband's ring and gave it to her and she understood the finality of the act that had occurred and the first thing that she said to me was, please, delay making the announce many, my son saun ean probably sitting at home in front of the tv and i do not want him to find out about his father's death while watching a tv program. >> i don't think it hit me until
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i heard the muzak playing the hit song. all my loving. i called the newsroom and told them that john lennon had been shot and they passed it to abc network and they passed it to howard cosell and he made the breaking news during monday night football. >> the news ripped through the air in shock waves. >> the word was out, immediately mourners began to gather outside the dakota for a candor he he willy light vigil. they sang beatles songs and chanted give peace a chance. >> i just felt an incredible weight was just pressing down on me. it was extraordinarily sad. >> it impacted all of us so severely. it was as if a friend or a family member had passed away. >> i think that one of the reasons that we felt that way about him is because we had
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embraced him as our own. >> on december 10th, john lennon was creamated in a private ceremony. millions people around the world responded to yoko ono's request to pause for ten minutes of silence to remember john lennon. over 225,000 people converged on new york's central park. for those ten minutes, every radio station in new york city went off the air.
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>> on the morning of december 9th, mark chapman, the man who killed john lennon, was put in a bullet proof vest and taken by van to the new york city criminal courts building. while chapman was awaiting areignment, police were searching his hotel room searching for clues that would reveal his motive. >> in the hotel room, we found a display of all his stuff, he we had a bible, a passport, photos and a tape by todd rungren,
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airline tickets, a letter of introduction from the young men's christian association, a place mat with the picture of the wizard of oz and a receipt from the ymca there. he stayed previously there. >> the stuff was laying there, laid out in such a way that he intended for someone to find it exactly the way it was laid out. >> how do you feel about taking the case? >> i feel good about it. >> jonathan marks a former assistant attorney was appointed to defend chapman. >> he said, even if we held the trial in paris, people would know about it. the fact that a lot of people are angry with mr. chapman and the fact that you represent him, how do you feel about that? >> i'm simply a lawyer representing a client. >> this was not a who-dun-it, there were witnesses that saw him do the shooting, he stayed
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at the scene, he made no effort to flee the scene. it was clear from the initial start of the case that he was going to lodge an insanity defense. >> the only issue in the trial will be whether or not he was sane at the time of the shooting. >> chapman is being held on a second floor cell. >> defense council, called on me, and asked me if i would help him on the chapman case. i agreed. forensic psychiatrist interviewed mark chapman on eight separate occasions for the defense. >> clearly mr. chapman, knew what he was doing. he used a gun in an all too accurate way. he knew it could kill, he knew it was a gun and he pointed it at the intended victim and
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unfortunately it worked. the serious question in the case is whether or not his mental illness impaired his ability to appreciate that what he was doing was wrong. simply being mentally ill does not acquit somebody. it's only if this mental illness impairs his ability to know and appreciate the nature and consequence of his conduct or it's wrong. >> he believes that chapman's mental illness began in childhood. mr. chapman was withdrawn at the age of 9 or 10. that is when he began imagining a whole world of people. little people. in the living room, in the walls of the living room. and he was there emperor, his commander. it was my clinical assess is many that he was both, a paranoid schizophrenic and
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suffering from bipolar disorder. i truly believe that when he went after john lennon, he was suicidal. john lennon was himself, had become himself. he believed that if he would kill himself he would be reborn in killing lennon he was killing himself. >> mark david chapman at that point, was a walking shell who didn't ever learn how to let out his feelings of anger of rage, of disappointment, mark david chapman was a failure in his own mind, he wanted to be somebody important, larry. he did not know how to handle being a nobody. mark david chapman struck out at something he perceived to be phony, at something he was angry at to be somebody. >> former assistant district attorney kim hogrefe does not buy it for a moment.
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>> if he was obsessed with anybody, it was bringing attention to himself. he was grandiose and he wanted to bring attention to himself. the fact that john lennon was the victim, it was because he was publically available and others were not. he was not obsessed or entitled to the insanity defense, we felt he did not have a mental disease or defect and whatever his mental state was, it did not prevent him from knowing the nature of his conduct and that it was wrong. >> the evidence at hand, the grand jury inindictment is expected. >> just over six months after the murder, and the day his trial is set to begin, chapman changes his plea to guilty, against the advice of his defense team. >> when the defendant entered the guilty plea, i was disappointed by that fact. i was looking forward to the opportunity to prove the facts that we had put together in a
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public trial. >> mark david chapman was sentenced to 20 years to life and sent to the new york state penitentiary. in his interview with larry king, chapman claimed to have recovered from the mental illness that had led to his crime. >> it was me, larry. and i accept full responsibility for what i did. i have seen places where i'm blaming the devil. and i hope that isn't kept going after this interview. i'm not blaming the devil, i'm blaming myself. but in the major sense, it was not me, because i'm better now. i'm sorry for what i did. i realize now that i really ended a man's life. i just saw him as a t two-dimensional celebrity with no real feelings, he was an no real feelings, he was an album cover to me. rina one truet has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food.
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>> in the years since lennon's death, many have tried to make sense of his murder. in the early 1990s, chapman was interviewed at length. >> mark is an unusual
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individual, he is a sociopath, and more intelligent than most of the people. his mind is capable of almost infinite self deception, unlike a lot of people, he tries hard to sense that other people have painless. but it's mostly incidents electrici -- mostly intellectual. he thought of injuring and killing thousands if not millions people. >> chapman shot john lennon because he wanted his moment of glory in the sun. that is it. >> that's the conclusion, that we came to. and i stand by it to this day. >> we are back with jack jones, how do you react to those that say, we should not interview mark david chapman, we are focusing attention on the wrong
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areas? >> they are the same people saying we should not study aids because it's a deadly topic. we have a man who is opening himself up for study to preconvenient other mark david chapmans from coming along. people that criticize journalists for exploring people like that miss the point. >> it gives him attention for the horrible act he committed. the ill ckillers are as famous e people they killed. and it's unfortunate. >> conspiracy theories have sprouted up. theories have chapman as a patsy to kill lennon. >> there was no evidence that said he was acting with anyone, or aided with anyone, he acted
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alone without the assistance of any other people. >> i have been through every fbi document in john's file, there's not one shred of evidence to suggest that the u.s. government had the least interest in john after 1972. >> what do you think of the conspiracy theories, cia, mind control? >> against the death of john lennon? >> hog wash. >> no one asked you to do it? no one prompted you to do it? nothing? >> no, they probably wish they would have had me, but they didn't. larry, this was me doing it. >> more than 30 years after killing john lennon, mark chapman remains in prison. he was first eligible in parole in the year 2,000, he has been denied at least 7 times since then. >> i think it's best for mark chapman to stay in care as he is. he committed a horrible act,
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whether or not he has been treated or cured, i cannot tell you. i don't know. he did something horribly wrong. he change today track and life of the world in my opinion. i think he needs to stay where he is. >> this guy murdered him. he shot him in the back, which is what people do not realize. he shot him in the back. he is a coward. >> i do not think the killer of john lennon should ever be paroled. the damage that he reaped on a wife, two sons, beatles' fans around the world, i cannot imagine anything he can do or say that would warrant parole. >> john lennon's widow has repeatedly opposed his release from prison. >> my husband john lennon was a special man. a man of humble origin, he brought hope and light to the whole world with his words and music. he tried to be a good power for the world. and he was.
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he gave encouragement, inspiration, and dreams to people regardless of their race, creed and gender. for me, he was the other half of the sky. we were in love with each other like the most passionate lovers to the last moment. for his son sean, he was the world, and that world shattered when the subject pulled the trigger. for julienne, it was losing his father twice. for the people of the world, it was as though the light went out for a moment and darkness prevailed. with his one act of violence in those few seconds, the subject managed to change my whole life. devastated sons and bring deep
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sorrow and fear to the world. >> in 1985, new york city dedicated an area of central park directly across from the dakota, as strawberry fields for one of lennon's most famous songs. countries from around the world donated trees and the imagined mosaic center piece was a gift from the center of naples, showing that the legacy of lennon transends borders and nations. >> i was walking down the stretd the other day and i saw a kid with john lennon's face on it. and i thought, it was interesting, here it is, he died more than 30 years ago. and for this young person, he still had resonance. >> the best way to remember john lennon is to be inspired by his
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optimism, his integrity, his clarity, and his love for his family. he was the real deal. >> all right, everyone, it's the top of the hour, welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage of the george zimmerman verdict, that the the courthouse, you see the fifth floor, all lighted up now and that's where the verdict was handed down for george zimmerman, it's midnight eastern time and i have breaking news for you, in case you missed it, a short time ago, this happened inside the courtroom where george zimmerman was standing trial on murder charges. in the circuit court of the 18th educational circuit, in


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