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for now, however, i'll settle for fixing my headache. that hurt. welcome to this "a.c. 360 special lon not guilty the zimmerman trial." the world knows george zimmerman has not found not guilty of all charges for killing trayvon martin. six jurors made that decision. this hour, my exclusive interview with one of those jurors, the first juror to speak publicly. she wanted to be known by her official designation juror b-37. she reveals a lot, what persuaded here, what moved her, what role if any race played and what she would say to the parents of the young man. >> it was unreal. it was unreal. it was like something that, why would they want to pick me?
you know? why would i be picked over all these hundreds of people that they interviewed? >> did you have an idea in your mind about what happened? >> no, because i hadn't followed the trial at all. i'd heard bits and pieces of what had happened and the names that were involved but not any details. >> when the trial started, what was the first day like? there were the opening statements. don west told a joke. >> knock, knock. who's there? >> what did you think of that? >> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman who? all right. good. you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it. until later. then i thought about it and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor, and i don't know his name.
>> the doctor for the defense called? >> yes. yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe inspiring. the experiences he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling in, like, a terrible terror voice when he just previously a half hour ago was playing cards with them. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts who were watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, mark o'mara, don west, were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris serino, for instance, the lead investigator. did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did. he -- but to me he just was doing his job. he was doing his job the way he was doing his job, and he was going to tell the truth regardless of who asked him the questions. >> so you found him to be credible? >> i did. very credible. >> so when he testified that he
found george zimmerman to be more or less, overall truthful, did that make an impression on you? >> it did. it did. it made a big impression on me. >> what did you say when he told you that? >> i believe his words were thank god, i was hoping somebody would videotape it. >> the fact that george zimmerman said to you, thank god, i hope somebody did videotape the event or the whole event, what -- his statement, what did that indicate to you? >> either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar. >> why? >> because he deals with this all the time. he deals with, you know, murder, robberies. he's in it all the time. and i think he has a knack to pick out who's lying and who's not lying. >> the prosecution started off by saying that george zimmermans was on top in the struggle and then later on they seemed to
concede, well, perhaps trayvon martin was on top, but maybe was pulling away. do you feel that the prosecution really had a firm idea of what actually happened? >> i think they wanted to happen what they wanted to happen. to go that their side. for the prosecution, the state. there was a lot -- the witnesses that the defense had on, plus some of the prosecution witnesses, there was no doubt that they had seen what had happened. some of it was taped so they couldn't refute any of that. >> it was on the 911 tapes. >> 911 tapes and the john good calling and all of that. >> how significant were those 911 tapes to you? >> the lauer tape was the most significant because it went through before the struggle, during the struggle, the gunshot, and then after. >> 911, do you need police or medical? >> maybe both. i'm not sure.
there's just someone screaming outside. >> had the parents of trayvon martin testifying, you had the family of george zimmerman, friends of george zimmerman testifying about whose voice it was on the 911 call. whose voice do you think it was on the 911 call? >> i think it was george zimmerman's. >> did everybody on the jury agree with that? >> all but probably one. >> and what made you think it was george zimmerman's voice? >> because of the evidence that he was the one that had gotten beaten. >> so you think because he was the one who had had cuts, had abrasions, he was the one getting hit, he was the one calling for help? >> well, because of the witness of john good saw trayvon on top of george. not necessarily hitting him because it was so dark he couldn't see, but he saw blows down toward george. and he could tell that it was george zimmerman on the bottom. he didn't know who it was, but he knew what they were wearing. >> the one, the juror who didn't think it was george zimmerman's
voice, who thought it was trayvon martin's voice on that call, do you know why they felt that way? >> she didn't think it was tray vo on but said it could have been trayvon's. >> so she wasn't even sure. >> no. she wanted to give everybody absolute out of being guilty. >> but you were sure it was george zimmerman's voice? >> i was sure it was george zimmerman's. >> everybody else on the jury was except for that one person? >> i think so. i think they were. i don't think there was a doubt that everybody else thought it was george's voice. >> what did you think of george zimmerman? >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done. but i think he was a little
negligible in doing what he did. >> negligent? >> negligent. sorry. but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he's guilty of something? >> i thing he's guilty of not using good judgment. when he was in the car and he called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> he shouldn't have gotten out -- >> he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> do you feel george zimmerman should have been carrying a gun? >> i think he has every right to carry a gun. i think it's everybody's right to carry a gun. as long as they use it the way it's supposed to be used and be responsible in using it. >> george zimmerman obviously did not testify, but his testimony essentially was brought into the trial through those videotapes. a number of videotapes that he walked police through a re-enactment of what he said happened. how important were those
videotapes to you, to actually hear from him what he said happened? >> i don't really know because, i mean, watching the tapes you -- there's always something in the back saying is it right? is it consistent? but with all the evidence of the phone calls and all the witnesses that he saw, i think george was pretty consistent in what, and told the truth basically. i'm sure there were some fabrications, enhancements, but i think pretty much it happened the way george said it happened. next, she's been bad mouthed. prosecution witness rachel jeantel. when she used the phrase creepy ass cracker, did you see that as a negative statement or a racial statement? my asthma's under control.
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i want to ask you about some of the different witnesses. rachel jeantel, the woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin at the start of the incident. what did you make of her testimony? >> i didn't think it was very credible, but i felt very sorry for her. she didn't ask to be in this place. she didn't ask -- she wanted to go. she wanted to leave. she tdidn't want to be any part
of this jury. i think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication skills. i just felt sadness for her. >> you felt like, what, she was in over her head? >> not over her head, she just didn't want to be there and she was embarrassed by being there because of her education and her communication skills that she just wasn't a good witness. >> did you find it hard at times to understand what she was saying? >> a lot of the times. because a lot of the times she was using phrases i have never heard before and what they meant. >> he looked like a creepy ass cracker. >> when she used the phrase creepy ass cracker, what did you think of that? >> i thought it was probably the truth. i think trayvon probably said that. >> and did you see that as a negative statement or a racial
statement? as the defense suggested? >> i don't think it's really racial. i think it's just everyday life. the type of life that they live and how they're living. in the environment that they're living in. >> so you didn't find her credible as a witness? >> no. >> so did you find her testimony important in terms of what she actually said? >> well, i think the most important thing is the time that she was on the phone with trayvon. so you basically hopefully if she heard anything, she would say she did, but the time coincides with george's statements and testimony of time limits and what had happened during that time. >> explain that. >> well, because there was -- george was on the 911 call while she was on the call with trayvon. and the times coincide, and i think there was two minutes between when george hung up from his 911 call to the time trayvon and rachel had hung up.
so really nothing could have happened because the 911 caller would have heard the nonemergency call that george had called heard something happening before that. >> what did you think of the testimony of trayvon martin's mother and father? did you find them credible? >> i was listening to my son's last cry for help. i was listening to his life being taken. >> i think they said anything a mother and father would say. just like george zimmerman's mom and father. i think, they're your kids. you want to believe that they're innocent and that was their voice, because hearing that voice would make it credible that they were the victim, not the aggressor. >> so in a way both sets of parents kind of canceled each other out in your mind? >> they did. definitely. because if i was a mother, i would want to leave so hard that it was not my son that did that or was responsible for any of
that. that i would convince myself probably that it was his voice. >> so you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right. what is your -- [ gunshot ] >> there's gunshots. >> how critical, though, was it for you in your mind to have an idea of whose voice it was yelling for help? i mean, how important was that yell for help? >> i think it was pretty important because it was a long cry and scream for help that whoever was calling for help was in fear of their life. >> when george zimmerman said that trayvon martin reached for his gun, there was no dna evidence and the defense said, well, had testimony in, well, it could have got washed off in the rain or the like. do you believe that trayvon martin reached for george zimmerman's gun? >> i think he might have. i think george probably thought that he did because george was the one who knew that george was carrying a gun. and he was aware of that.
>> you can't say for sure whether or not trayvon martin knew that george zimmerman was carrying a gun? >> no. >> you can't say for sure whether or not trayvon martin reached for that gun? >> right. but that doesn't make it right. there's not a right or a wrong. even if he did reach for the gun, it doesn't make any difference. >> how so? >> well, because george had a right to protect himself at that point. >> so you believe that george zimmerman really felt his life was in danger? >> i do. i really do. >> do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? >> i think he did. >> what makes you think that? >> because of the evidence of on the "t," on the sidewalk, where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there. and then a little bit farther down, there was a flashlight that he was carrying. and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> so you think based on the testimony you heard, you believe
that trayvon martin was the aggressor? >> i think the roles changed. thy i think george got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn't have been there, but trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare him and get the one er, up on him or something, and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> do you have any doubt that george zimmerman feared for his life? >> i had no doubt george feared for his life. ahead, on the streets, protesters are calling for civil rights charges against george zimmerman. >> no peace. >> in the jury room, did race come up at all? do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision? [ mortazavi ] i'm definitely a perfectionist.
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prosecution tried to paint george zimmerman as a wannabe cop, overeager. do you buy that? >> i think he's overeager to help people. like the lady that got broken in and robbed, her baby and her were upstairs, he came over and he offered her a lock for her backsliding glass door. he offered his phone number. his wife's phone number. i mean, you have to have a heart
to do that and care, to help people. >> so you didn't find it creepy that -- you didn't find it a negative that you didn't buy the prosecution when they kind of said he was a wannabe cop? >> no, i didn't at all. >> is george zimmerman somebody you would like to have on a neighborhood watch in your community? >> if he didn't go too far. i mean, you can always go too far. he just didn't stop at the limitations that he should have stopped at. >> so, is that a yes or -- if he didn't go too far, is he somebody prone, you think, to going too far? >> i think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break-ins and the robberies and they actually arrested somebody not that long ago. i -- i mean, i would feel comfortable having george, but i think he's learned a good
lesson. >> so you would feel comfortable having him now because you think he's learned a lesson from all of this? >> exactly. i think he just didn't know when to stop. he was frustrated and things just got out of hand. >> people have now remarked subsequently that he gets his gun back and there are some people who said the idea that he gets it, can have a gun, worries them. does that worry you? >> that doesn't worry me. i think he would be more responsible than anybody else on this planet right now. >> the prosecution didn't use the word "racial profiling" during the case. >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. >> they used the word "profiling" and that was something that was worked out between the judge and the lawyers when the jury wasn't in the rooms. >> right. >> do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision, his view of
trayvon martin as suspicious? >> i don't think he did. i think just circumstances caused george to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously. there were unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood. >> so you don't believe race played a role in this case? >> i don't think it did. i think if there was another person, spanish, white, asian, if they came in the same situation where trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. >> why do you think george zimmerman found trayvon martin suspicious then? >> because he was cutting through the back. it was raining. he said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road. kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. he was stopping and starting,
but, i mean, that's george's rendition of it. but i think the situation where trayvon got into, him being late at night, dark at night, raining, and anybody would think anybody walking down the road stopping and turning and looking, if that's exactly what happened, it's suspicious and george had said that he didn't recognize who he was. >> was that a common belief on the jury that race was not -- that race did not play a role in this? >> i think all of us thought race did not play a role. >> so nobody felt race played a role. >> i don't think so. >> none of the jurors. >> i can't speak for them. >> that wasn't part of the discussion in the jury room? >> no, we never had that discussion. >> it didn't come up the question of did george zimmerman profile trayvon martin because he was african-american? >> no, i think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch and he profiled anybody who came in acting strange. i think it was just circumstances happened that he
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i'm don lemon in new york. a look at your headlines. people gathered today in more than 100 cities across the country to remember trayvon martin. orlando, to atlanta, to washington, to new york. the scenes were repeated all around the country including sanford, florida, where trayvon martin was killed and where george zimmerman was acquitted. in miami, trayvon martin's father, tracy martin, spoke to cnn. >> it was overwhelming. it just goes to show the love and the support that our families and friends have for us here in miami as well as across the country, and it sends a message to the nation that we're not going to sit back and let our children be killed and don't say anything about it. other news now. one year ago today a gunman burst into an aurora, colorado, movie theater killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. people in aurora honored the victims saturday holding vigils
and rallies to remember the fallen and to promote healing. no one in aurora can forget the horrific massacre on july 20th of last year. a woman is dead after she tumbled out of a roller coaster car in 6 flags over texas. a woman was concerned her safety bar wasn't secure before the texas giant coaster started moving friday night. 6 flags texas spokeswoman says the coaster has been closed while officials investigate the deadly accident. now, to a major storm that hit las vegas. it roared into the area friday flooding streets, downing trees and damaging several homes. the storm ripped holes in the roof of this bar on the strip allowing water to come pouring into the building. and here in northeast, it looks as though we're going to finally get a reprieve from the extreme heat. finally. a cold front is moving in. it will produce some wet weather and it will also drop temperatures which is good news. in boston, folks there will be looking at a high of 79 on
sunday, that's after the high 90s on saturday. even here in new york, we'll drop below 90. finally. a deadly day in baghdad. at least 41 people were killed in a series of bombings over a two-hour period on saturday. 165 others were injured. 11 car bombs and 6 roadside blasts were in predominantly shiite areas. those are your headlines this hour. i'm don lemon keeping you informed. cnn. the most trusted name in news. this is an "a.c. 360 special report: not guilty the zimmerman trial." juror b-37 takes us inside the verdict, in this second half hour of my exclusive interview, who juror b-37 believes is responsible for the fight that cost trayvon martin his life, and whether she believed the shooting of trayvon martin was
justified. do you think trayvon martin played a role in his own death, that this wasn't just something that happened to him, this is something -- >> i believe he played a huge role in his death. he could have -- when george confronted him and he could have walked away and gone home. he didn't have to do whatever he did and come back and be in a fight. >> and the other jurors felt that as well? >> they did. i mean, as far as my perspective of it, they did. >> let's talk about how you reach the verdict. when the closing arguments were done, the rebuttal was done, you go into that jury room. what happened? >> well, the first day we went in, we were trying to get ourself organized because there's no instructions on what you do, how you do it, and when you do it. so we all decided, we nominated a foreman so she could have the voice and kind of run the show.
the first day we got all the evidence on the tables and on the walls, then we asked for an inventory because it was just too time consuming looking for evidence when it was in no order whatsoever. >> did you take an initial vote to see where everybody was? >> we did. >> so where was everybody? how was that first vote? >> we had three not guilties, one second-degree murder, and two manslaughters. >> so half the jury felt he was not guilty, two manslaughters and one second degree. >> exactly. >> do you want to say where you were on that? >> i was not guilty. >> so going into it, once the evidence, all the evidence had been presented, you felt he was not guilty? >> i did. i think if the medical examiner could have done a better job at presenting trayvon's, preserving trayvon's evidence -- >> the state. >> i mean the state. they should have bagged his hands. they should have dried his
clothes. they should have done a lot of things they didn't do. >> do you feel you know truly what happened? >> i have a rendition of what i believe happened, and i think it's probably as close as anybody could come to what happened. but nobody's not going to know what exactly happened except for george. >> so you took that first vote. you saw basically jury split, half the jurors including yourself thought not guilty. two people thought manslaughter. one person thought second-degree murder had been proven. how do you then go about deciding things? >> we started looking at the evidence. we listened to all the tapes. two, three, four, five times. >> the 911 recordings. >> the 911 recordings. then there's the re-enactment tape. there were some tapes from previous 911 calls that george
had made. >> the re-enactment tape is the tape of george zimmerman walking police through what he said happened? >> exactly. exactly. we looked through pretty much everything. that's why it took us so long. and then at the end, we just -- we got done and then we just started looking at the law. what exactly we could find and how we should vote for this case. and the law became very confusing. >> yeah, tell me about that. >> it became very confusing. we had stuff thrown at us. we had the second-degree murder charge, the manslaughter charge, then we had self-defense, stand your ground. and i think there was one other one, but the manslaughter case, we actually had gotten it down to manslaughter, because the second degree -- it wasn't second degree anymore. >> so the person who felt it was second degree going into it, you had convinced them, okay, manslaughter? >> through going through the
law. and then we had sent a question to the judge and it was not a question that they could answer we or no. so they sent it back saying that if we could narrow it down to a question -- >> you sent a question out to the judge about manslaughter? >> yes. >> and about -- >> and what could be applied to the manslaughter. we were looking at the self-defense. one of the girls said, asked if you can put all the leading things into that one moment, where he feels it's a matter of life or death, to shoot this boy or if it was just at the heat of passion at that moment? >> so that juror wanted to know whether the things that had brought george zimmerman to that place, not just in the minute or two before the shot actually went off, but -- >> exactly. >> earlier that day, even prior
crime? >> not prior crimes, just the situation leading to it. all the steps. as the ball got rolling -- >> spotting trayvon martin, to getting out of his vehicle, to following, whether all of that could play a role in -- >> determining the self-defense or not. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. i mean, reading them, they were tough to follow. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, it was just so confusing what went with what and what we could apply to what. because, i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law and reading it over and over and over again, we decided
there's just no way, other place to go. >> can you talk about the process of the other jurors changing their minds? i mean, you talk about the first juror went from second-degree murder to manslaughter. then put out the question to the judge for manslaughter. and then it was basically because of the jury's reading of the law that everybody finally decided manslaughter doesn't hold? >> that's exactly why. >> was there any holdout? >> there was a holdout. and probably, well, we had another vote, and then everybody voted, put it in a little tin. we had a little tin. folded our little papers and put it in the vote, and she was the last one to vote. and it took probably another 30 minutes for her to decide that she could not find anything else to hold george on because you
want to find him guilty of something. she wanted to find him guilty of something but couldn't because of the law. the way the law is written. he wasn't responsible for negligible things he had done leading up to that point. >> did you also want to find him guilty of something? >> i wanted to find him guilty of not using his senses, but you can't fault anybody -- you can't fault him -- you can't fault -- you can't charge him with anything because he didn't do anything unlawful. >> you're saying he overreacted or maybe was too eager, made bad choices but it wasn't against the law? >> exactly. that's exactly what happened. >> you're saying maybe it wasn't right, it wasn't right getting out of that car, but it wasn't against the law? >> exactly. he started the ball rolling. he could have avoided the whole situation by staying in the car, but he wanted to do good. i think he had good in his
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was a wannabe cop, whether he the final analysis mattered.in what mattered was those seconds before the shot went off? did george zimmerman fear for his life? >> exactly. that's exactly what happened. >> do you have any doubt that george zimmerman feared for his life? >> i had no doubt george feared for his life in the situation he was in at the time. >> so when the prosecution in their closing argument is holding up the skittles -- >> he bought skittles and some kind of watermelon or iced tea or whatever it's called. >> and holding up the can of iced tea and saying, this is what trayvon martin was armed with. just a kid who had skittles and iced tea. did you find that compelling at all? or did you find mark o'mara with the concrete block compelling? >> that's cement. >> well, mark with the concrete block definitely. it's just the skittles and the
arizona can were ridiculous to even put it up and compare the two. i mean, anybody can be armed with anything. you could bash somebody's head against a tree or a rock or this concrete. >> so you believe that trayvon martin was slamming george zimmerman's head against the concrete without a doubt? >> i believe he hit his head on the concrete. i think he was probably trying to slam it. i don't know how hard george's head hit on the concrete. it hit enough to get damaged, bruising, swelling. i think it's, you know, it was definitely enough to make you fear. when you're in that situation. >> and the photos of george zimmerman, the photos of his injuries, to you those were -- were those something you also looked at in the jury room? >> we did. >> at length? >> we did. we did all that kind of evidence first then we listened to all the tapes afterwards. >> and that was important to you because that also made you
believe george zimmerman was legitimate in fearing for his life? >> i believed it. i believe because of his injuries. >> please pay attention to the instructions that i am about to give you. >> the two options you had, second-degree murder or manslaughter, you felt neither apply? >> right. well, because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. he had a right to defend himself. if he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. laws spelled out in these ow the instructions. >> that's how we read the law. that's how we got to the point of everybody being not guilty. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> how has this been for you? i mean, how was making that decision, when you all realize, okay, the last holdout juror has decided, okay, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter, there's nothing we can really hold him to, not
guilty? in that jury room, emotionally, what was that like? >> it was emotional to a point. after we put the vote in, when the bailiff took our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it's just hard. thinking that somebody lost their life and there's nothing else could be done about it. i mean, it's what happened. it's sad. it's a tragedy that's happened, but it happened. i think -- i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you. >> it is. it's very emotional. >> can you explain the emotion? >> it's just sad that we all had
to come together and figure out what is going to happen to this man's life afterwards. you find him not guilty, but you're responsible for that not guilty, and all the people that want him guilty aren't going to have any -- any closure. next, where do juror b-37's sympathies lie? do you feel sorry for trayvon martin? we used to live with a bear. [growl] we'd always have to go everywhere with it. get in the front. we drive. it was so embarrasing that we just wanted to say, well, go away. shoo bear. but we can't really tell bears what to do.
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can you tell me a little bit about the last day in the jury room deliberating? you went for so long. did you know you were close? >> we knew we were close. we knew we were close five hours before we got to where we were. because we were slowly making progress the entire time. we didn't come to a stumbling block. we were just reading and reading and reading and reading and knew we were progressing. >> and did the jurors, did you all get along well? was there conflict? was there -- how did the deliberation process -- how was being together this long? >> deliberation was -- it was tough. we all pretty much get along. at times i thought we might have a hung jury because one of them said they were going to leave. and we convinced them, no, you
can't leave, you can't do this, you have been in this too long to walk out now. >> did you cry in that jury room? >> i cried after the verdict. i didn't cry when they were reading the verdict out in the jury room because we were all crying before we went in. and then -- >> what do you mean you were trying before you went in? >> well, we were in a separate room when the foreman handed the bailiff our verdict, and then we were crying back there before we went into the jury room. so they gave us about 20 minutes to try and get everything together. >> what do you think you were crying about? >> the pressure. the pressure of all of it. and everything just kind of came to a head. because i kind of tried to keep everything out, emotionally out during the whole process, and then it just flooded in after it was done. >> verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty.
>> did you realize how big this trial had become? >> i had no clue. no clue whatsoever. >> did it make sense to you that it had -- that there was this much attention on it? >> it didn't to me because i didn't see it as a racial thing. i saw it as a murder case. as a second-degree murder case. it just -- it was just unbelievable that it had gotten so big and so political, not really political, i don't want to say that, but so emotional for everybody involved. and i never would have thought when we went over to the hotel to get all our stuff from the hotel, we got to the hotel and the parking lot was just a regular particular. by the time we came out, it looked like disney world. there was media, there were police, there were -- and it really kind of started to sink in when we went to get our stuff and then the state police showed
up because they were going it be our escorts home. >> are you scared now? >> i'm not scared. i don't know how to say it. >> you clearly don't want people to see your face. >> no, but i don't want anybody else around me to be affected by anyone else. i mean, i'm not really scared, but i want to be cautious. if that makes any sense. >> it's understandable. >> yeah. >> but you want people to know -- why do you want to -- why did you want to speak? >> i want people to know that we put everything into everything to get this verdict. we didn't -- we didn't just go in there and say, we're going to come in here and just do guilty/not guilty. we thought about it for hours and cried over it afterwards.
i don't think any of us could ever do anything like that ever again. >> do you feel sorry for trayvon martin? >> i feel sorry for both of them. i feel sorry for trayvon in the situation he was in, and i feel sorry for george because of the situation he got himself in. >> but you want people to know and the reason you're speaking is you want people to know how seriously you took this? >> i do. i tone want people to think that we didn't think about it and didn't care about trayvon martin. because we did. we're very sad that it happened to him. >> and you want his family to know that as well? >> i do, and i felt bad that we can't give them the verdict that they wanted, but legally we could not do that. >> when you lay your head tonight on the pillow, in your heart and in your head, you are 100% convinced that george
zimmerman, in taking out his gun and pulling the trigger, did nothing wrong? >> i'm 101% that he was -- that he should have done what he did except for the things that he did before. that's not the way i wanted to say it, but -- >> you mean he shouldn't have gotten out of the car, he shouldn't have pursued trayvon martin, but in the final analysis, in the final struggle -- >> when the end came to the end -- >> he was justified. >> he was justified in shooting trayvon martin. after that interview first aired monday night, four jurors released a statement saying opinions of juror b-37, quote, were her own and not in any way representative of all the jurors. b-37 then sent our program a statement that said, quote, for reasons of my own, i needed to speak alone. there will be no other interviews. my prayers are with all those who had the influence and power to modify the laws that left me
with no verdict option other than not guilty. no other family should be forced to endure what the martin family has endured. i'm anderson cooper. that's it for our "a.c. 360 "special report." tonight, my one-on-one interview with rachel jeantel. >> racial. >> on the stand, a combatted teenager. >> you listening? i had told you, are you listening? >> if that's all you know about her, you've got to see this. >> what is your view of george zimmerman? >> weak. scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she efsh answers questions from our studio audience. >> do you feel your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no.