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i'm wolf blitzer in washington. "erin burnett out front" starts right now. another horrifying train crash tonight. two commuter trains collide. plus a horrible day for anthony wiener, if it could get worse. a former president is livid with him. and the pope's shocking words, but do they really signal anything new for the church? let's go "out front." good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. we begin "out front" with a developing story. anoth another major train crash, tonight in switzerland. you're looking at the picture. at least 40 people injured, 5 of them, we are aware, very seriously. two commuter trains collided headon before 7:00 p.m. the driver of one of the trains is still missing.
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but this is the third major transportation accident in europe in less than a week. 38 people were killed, 16 injured when a bus plunged nearly 100 feet down a steep ravine in southern italy late last night and the death count in the spain train crash, 79 killed and scored more injured. carl is out front on all of the developing stories. carl, what's the latest on the crash in switzerland tonight? >> reporter: erin, of course, night has fallen across the crash site there in switzerland, and the latest we're hearing is that firefighters and paramedics are still on the scene. we know that they've taken away 40 people who were injured there. five of those seriously. but we also understand that firefighters are still trying to cut in to the cabin of the train, the engine itself, because they haven't found the driver of one of the locomotives yet. so still working frantically to try and find out exactly where he is and what condition he's
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in, erin. >> all right. and, carl, obviously, operator error, i know, is now being looked at front and center in the spain train crash, where you're standing tonight. but could operator error be a factor in all of these horrible accidents? >> reporter: i think you have to look at the types of vehicles. yes, we've got -- we've got trains here, but commuter trains and these spanish high-speed trains travel at very different speeds. but certainly there is room to suspect that there could be an element of operator error here. also in that italian bus crash, we hear that there weren't even any skid marks on the road. did the driver have time to brake, or did he just fail to brake? i think that's something the crash investigators will be looking at, in all three accidents. but, of course, there are maybe technical issues here that investigators will be keen to look at, too, erin. >> carl, you know, people obviously use trains a lot there. but, also, buses. you see those buses careening around what appear to many
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americans to be really tight corners and very small roads. and yet, it seemed that they never crashed. obviously, now, you have these horrific accidents. what are travelers telling you, because i know you've had a chance to talk to some people who are there. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. as you saw, i think that's a good point, typically the highway infrastructure here in europe seems to be a little smaller, little tighter bends, narrower highways than in the u.s. and so, somebody coming from the u.s. to europe says, hey, the roads look a little less safe than back in the states. and we were talking to a couple from new york. and they were saying three accidents, three back-to-back accidents, what are we supposed to do? they came from paris to here to santiago, and they were going to move off to a different location tomorrow. of course, we said to them, you know, here in europe, we're used to traveling on trains, on buses. that's our way of life. i think the europeans will be saying tonight, well, statistically, still, trains and buses are fairly safe bet. of course, seeing the
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back-to-back accidents, people do just stand back a bit and say, hey, what's going on right now. erin? >> absolutely. carl penhall, thank you very much. reporting live from santiago, where the horrible train derailment was in spain. at the white house today, president barack obama had lunch with the former secretary of state hillary clinton. it was a beautiful day, it was an ail fresco lunch. i mean, look at this. it looks really heavenly, right? a white house spokesman said friendship was the only thing on the agenda. just a chance for two former rivals turned friends to catch up. the timing, of course, was interesting, because we have to wonder whether the two caught up on the scandal that's engulfed the woman clinton has called a second daughter, her longtime aide, wife of new york city mayoral hopeful carlos danger -- uh, anthony wiener, sorry. a source close to bill and hillary clinton tells cnn's jessica yellin, the cup is, quote/unquote, wiener but strictly on the personal front.
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they're angry only at how he treated her. they're not worried how the sexting scandal could affect a presidential bid. out front tonight democratic strategi strategist kiki and carl. great to have you with us. even if wiener were to drop out today, the jokes borne from this scandal are likely to last a lot longer. just this morning i woke up to, this full page ad from the new york sports club, "the new york post," this is my picture i took on my new phone, eh, carlos danger, we give extra attention to our members, too. they didn't even spell the word wiener. they used the same ad in the "boston globe." and a reader tweeted out that picture. wiener has dropped from first place to last place in the new york city race. campaign manager has dropped ow. obviously, bad press for him, his wife. do you buy it, that the clintons only care on a personal basis not professionally? >> well, i do think that it does bring back the memories of bill
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clinton. everybody is talking about not just because of the hillary thing, but because we have a public official who repeatedly got caught in the same problem, who repeatedly lied in public about it. so it reminds people of bill clinton. i would say personally, i think anthony wiener looks worse. when it comes to fitness for public office, we're reminded bill clinton lied to the public and under oath, and he abused his pow other, and so, at least wiener has a defense that he didn't abuse his power as a congressman to try to cover up the scandal. >> kiki, a lot of interest in the scandal has to do with her connection to hillary clinton. that's the way it is. you can't ignore it. when you listen to what hillary clinton said about her husband's scandal versus what she said about anthony wiener, there are similarities. here they are. >> i think it's real dangerous in this country if we don't have some zone of privacy for everybody. >> i do very strongly believe that that is between us and our marriage. >> i'm sitting here, because i love him, and i respect him, and
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i honor what he's been through and what we've been through together. >> i love him. i have forgiven him. i believe in him. and as we have said through the beginning, we are moving forward. >> how does replaying that specific moment of hillary and bill clinton, which frankly a lot of people have forgotten -- that moment on the couch -- how does that not hurt hillary clinton? >> look, the reality is what you're seeing are different people in the world have different experiences in their marriage. and what you see in common is what most couples in america and around the world, frankly, say which is that what goes on in their marriage is between them. where anthony wiener and chose to put themselves in public life, they came out and answered those questions. they haven't run away from that element. at that point, that's where it stops. everyone's marriage is private. the only two people who know what goes on in any marriage are the two people in it. and i suspect, erin, you would say that about your life, and i would certainly say that about my life. >> well, i mean, i guess that's
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certainly true. the question is, though, when it becomes public, everyone has a right to judge whether they want someone who would engage in those things to be in public -- >> are we judging -- >> i don't know if it's about a right to judge. and huma did not hide from the camera. she stepped up at a press conference and told folks where she stood on this issue of the campaign and her decision to be there. after that, she is right, that everybody is a human being. even if you choose to be a public servant or engage in public life, at a certain point, at your most basic form, you are a human being. and there are lines -- >> the question with bill clinton and anthony wiener -- >> they're two different people. >> spitzer did something morally wrong. i don't think it reflects on him as badly, because he didn't lie about it in public. unlike with bill clinton, there was no idea that he was abusing his power to do it. now, how it hurts hillary clinton, though, this is where i think i might agree with kiki, we would have to judge their
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marriage in order to judge her. maybe some voters are willing that she got into the marriage to become president, i'm not going to do that. >> this is about something personal. i think that whatever choice voters have in 2016, it's about their lives and not someone else's and not a headline today. >> all right. well, thank you very much. both of you. we appreciate it. let us know, everyone, what you think, whether you think the anthony wiener scandal will hurt hillary clinton or not. still to come, pope francis shocks some of his flock with his latest statements. how worried should conservative catholics be tonight? and then, the biggest investigation of its kind. why the fbi arrested 150 people this weekend. and rapper nellie speaks out for the first time since he appeared on stage with amanda berry, the woman held captive for ten years, he speaks out right here "out front." oh this is lame,
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our second story "out front," gay priests in the catholic church. pope francis may have opened the door to accepting gay priests during a news conference after telling reporters today he will not judge priests based on their sexual orientation. >> translator: if a person is gay and accepts the lord and has goodwill, who am i to judge them? >> all right, that could be a significant statement, right, but then the pope continued to say that if a priest is committed a sin, the lord forgives and when the lord forgives, the lord forgets, which does still define being gay as a sin. so is this a change or not? "out front" tonight, father gary
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meyer, openly gay priest in st. louis, brian and john, cnn political contributors. great to have you with us. father, i want to start with you. the pope spoke candidly for 82 minutes on that plane after a very long trip. that surprised everybody. and he took, you know, un -- non-preset questions from reporters during that time. are you optimistic about his statement on gays in the church, or are you worried that he put it in the same casing as it's always been in? >> i'm optimistically cautious, right? i think there's some optimism here. this is one of the first statements that we've heard from any catholic official in years that hasn't been a harsh anti-gay stance. so the fact that he's not willing to judge might inspire other people to not judge the homosexual person as readily as they do. >> and what do you think, brian? i mean, because he obviously said i don't want to judge. but then he sort of -- he went
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down the path of, well, it's a sin, and if the lord forgives, i forgive. so he's still saying being homosexual is a sin. do you really see a change, like a lot of the headlines are presenting this as? >> i think he, in fact, is reaffirming catholic teaching. what he's saying is that homosexuality is wrong, but we should treat all people with dignity and compassion and respect. in fact, in his statement, he referred to catechism in the catholic church, which basically says exactly those two points. but i think -- >> what is the bottom line, in layman's terms, though, the way the church is now. you can be gay, but you can't engage in sexual acts as a gay person? >> exactly. exactly. >> that's it -- okay -- >> he is saying the church loves everybody, including gays, but to engage in homosexual activity is wrong. >> john, you wrote an article this weekend when you talked about the pope's style, as he was presenting things. obviously, a big departure from anybody in our lifetime we've seen in terms of popes with that hour and a half on the plane, just coming back there and yapping. i mean, that was unbelievable, right?
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how do you interpret these latest -- yeah, right. how do you interpret this, though? >> i think this is fascinating. remember, this is on the trip to the trip. you're see him transform the optics around the catholic church. remember, his predecessor said a smaller church is fine. in contrast, pope francis is pursuing a big tent. this is a radical inclusiveness he is pursuing, reaching out to youth in particular, saying that even atheists can go to heaven if they do get works. and now, this statement about homosexuals. it's a very significantly different tone and it's fascinating and inspiring. >> father, do you agree with that? when you hear brian saying, look, he's still going with the technical teachings of the church, and obviously in 2010 as a cardinal in argentina, pope francis at the time said same-sex marriage is a destructive attack on god's plan, quoting him, and, a, quote, move by the devil. but it sounds like even if he is sticking with traditional
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catechism on that plane, what he said on that plane was much more open-minded than those, frankly, horrific comments. >> correct, i agree with you, erin. i'm hoping this is a possible door opening to at least have the discussion about homosexuality. in particular, how the teaching on homosexuality in the catholic tradition is hurting our young people. i'm just convinced that it is some of our rhetoric and some of the hostility that various hire have presented to our youth. >> will he ever welcome? >> i don't think he will welcome priests engaging in homosexual activity. i think a lot of people -- >> technical, priests aren't supposed to engage in sexual activity, hetero or homo. >> that's true. >> so he could welcome them and be consistent with catechism. logistically, right, you can be
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gay and not active -- so he could welcome gay priests. >> the vatican has said that basically if someone has deep-seeded homosexual tendencies, that's a problem. but i think what pope francis is emphasizing more -- more than anything else is, hey, listen, he loves people. he has christ's heart. you see him there, you know, see him there with millions of -- with a million people there in the open, driving the security people crazy. >> right. >> riding the subway to work, as an archbishop. he really loves people, he wants to bring christ's love and -- >> we have to leave. but i have to say this. he said no to women priests. >> yeah. you know -- he's pope. he's got to support basic church doctrine. but the tone, radical inclusive, it's really exciting. >> all right. thanks very much to all three of you. we appreciate you taking the time. still to come, a story we've followed for months, a landmark case in kentucky, can same-sex marriage couples refuse to
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our third story "out front," gay rights in the courtroom. tomorrow, there is a hearing in a landmark case we've been following here. whether same-sex partners can refuse to testify against each other. that is a right given to every married couple in this country, but in kentucky, one woman could be forced to testify against her
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wife in an upcoming murder trial, because their marriage is not recognized by the state of kentucky. john zarella is "out front" with our exclusive story. >> reporter: prosecutors say this woman, bobby joe cleary, is a killer. it was nearly two years ago, cleary says it was self-defense, claiming she was being raped, fought back with a hammer, and killed a man she says was attacking her. if convicted, she could be sentenced to death by lethal injection. prosecutors say the only other person who knows the truth is geneva case, and she's not talking. why is it that you don't want to testify? >> the issue is i have the right -- our relationship is our relationship, and i feel that i should be equal to everybody else. we should be the same. i should be the same as you, and i love her, and i think that, you know, we should have the same opportunity as anybody else out here. >> reporter: case is invoking spousal privilege, commonly used in court cases to protect
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spouses from testifying against each other. case talked exclusively with cnn, but would not discuss what she knows about the killing. she says she and clairy were separated at the time. but it was just a spat. so you still love bobbi jo? >> yes, i do, very much. >> reporter: even after all this? >> even after all this. i'll always lov her. >> reporter: the two women entered into a civil union in vermont a decade ago, but the problem is, this isn't vermont. it's kentucky. and here, same-sex marriage is constitutionally banned. prosecutors would not talk with us before the hearing, but in a court filing, they wrote, quote, the husband/wife privilege, which protects spousal testimony and marital communications, is not applicable in this case, because the marriage of bobbye jo clary and geneva case are not married. they are ordering case to
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testify. if she refuses -- you can go to jail. >> no. >> reporter: it doesn't -- >> i'm not -- >> reporter: it doesn't bother you? >> no. >> reporter: you'd go to jail rather than testify? >> i'm not going to say i would go to jail. but i want to get it across that this is -- this should be -- we should all be equal. >> reporter: experts say the supreme court ruling that california's proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage was illegal doesn't change things in kentucky, but attorneys representing case and clary says it opens a pathway. >> i think it helped us, and the way it helps us, it shows our federal level, especially at the supreme court level, is willing to take a hard look at issues that affect the social makeup of our society. >> reporter: case told detectives during an interview two years ago that clary admitted the killing but said it was self-defense, and case says she saw her spouse clean blood
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out of the dead man's car. if geneva case doesn't testify, her interview with police may ultimately be her only words on record in court. now, prosecutors and the defense do not believe the judge is going to rule from the bench tomorrow, but they do expect a quick ruling if, for no other reason, than the murder trial is scheduled to begin august 30th. erin? >> all right, thank you very much, john. we'll have another special report from john tomorrow. a massive fbi investigation coming to a triumphant end, 105 children rescued in this country. 50 arested. details next. plus, a reporter live tweets from his mother's deathbed. all of the details. a touching tribute. or did it go too far? and amanda berry was one of three women held captive for a decade, and she appeared on stage with rapper nelly this weekend. nelly is "out front" next. weekdays are for rising to the challenge.
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welcome back to the second half of "out front."
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we start with stories where we focus on our reporting from the front lines, and i want to begin with what's happening at this moment. israeli and palestinian leaders are gathering in washington. they're going to sit down tonight together at the negotiating table for the first time in three years. the last time they tried, those talks collapsed in just a month. they didn't get anywhere. the goal is to establish a palestinian state in the way that works for israel. president obama says the talks are a promising step forward, but expert aaron david miller tells us the gap on the core issues are wide, mistrust between israelis and palestinians is deep. think grand canyon. however, he, along with others, say the effort is a bet worth trying. well, the judge in the court marshal of bradley manning is expected to announce her verdict at 1:00 eastern time tomorrow. manning is the former army intelligence analyst charged with the largest leak of classified information in american history. manning faces life in prison if found guilty of the most serious charge, which is aiding the enemy. military law attorney lisa
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windsor tells us it's clear beyond a reasonable doubt that he publicized classified information without regard to national security. she says it's likely the judge will hand down a guilty verdict on all charges in the case, then, of course, it goes to the punishment phase and, of course, with treason, things like that, it could go to death. the u.n. and france are hailing molhail ing -- mali. france called it a great success. reuters estimates participation at some polling stations was between 55% and 65%, which would be a record. but here's the problem. for the 173,000 refugees in neighboring countries, only 10,000 of them even registered to vote and early numbers show only about 1,200 of them actually did. so that means basically all, me sexually, not all, but a lot, most, of the 500,000 who have fled the war didn't get to vote at all. at least eight people were injured in philadelphia today at a home collapse and apparent
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explosion. we'll look at the pictures here. as you can see, authorities say a contractor was doing work in a vacant home and it came down. this is what it looked like after the incident, as you can see. before on the left, after on the right. so total obliterated. a man said a baby was on fire and thrown out the window to firefighters. today's collapse comes less than two months after a building collapse in philadelphia killed six people. -- 723 days since this country lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? in order to get it back, you have to have money to bay down the debt, and jobs and prosperity are required. this week, fast-food workers are going on strike to demand higher wages and the right to unionize. the median pay for the nearly 50,000 fast-food workers in new york city, to give you an example, is $18,500 a year. in new york city, that is $5,000 below the poverty line. many workers are asked to be paid a minimum of $15 an hour, which would be more than double the minimum wage.
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and now our fourth story. the biggest child prostitution crackdown in fbi history. the agency today announcing a nationwide bust dubbed operation cross-country. there were 150 arrests and more than 100 children were rescued and the children were between the ages of 13 and 17. the sweep was in 76 american cities, involving more than 230 law enforcement units. it's a pretty incredible feat, and joe johns is "out front." joe, how did the fbi actually go about -- i'm curious how long this took, too, to identify the people that they wanted to go after here and arrest. >> reporter: you know, actually, erin, this is an operation that's been going on for years. >> yeah. >> reporter: quite frankly. and from time to time, they go out and round up a bunch of people that they've been looking at a long time. local police on the ground know what's going on in their communities, right? they know when there's a child out there walking the streets. they also know which alleged pimps seem to be moving prostitutes from city to city, state to state. they get intelligence and information about social media,
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internet traffic in the area that seems to feature young girls and gather up all of the information, so that when the feds step in, they figure out who could be targeted in the street. whether a pimp gets state or federal charges, sort of is a question of whatever the facts are on the ground, erin. >> so, joe, what about the girls? i mean, these are young girls, more than 100 of them. what's the next step for them, and how do they find them? i mean, what i found shocking, looking at this story today, is how this is, you know, as incredible as this was, a victory for the fbi, a drop in the bucket compared to the number of young girls in this country who are being sexually exploited. >> reporter: no question. that's absolutely right. and the fact of the matter is young prostitutes used to be treated as part of the problem, and now they're starting to be treated more like victims, which is what they really are. the really sad fact is that all these kids taken off the streets, you end up hearing a
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lot about recidivism, too. they return to the streets, sometimes because they don't have anywhere else to go. so the national center for missing and exploited children say they need things like group homes, therapy, some alternative so they can stop this lifestyle and stop believing that the people who are putting them out there are their friends. >> all right, thank you very much, joe johns. and now, we want to go to cleveland where kidnapping survivor amanda berry is trying to move on with her life. over the weekend, the 27-year-old, who was held captive for more than a decade, made a public appearance when she joined rapper nelly on stage during a concert. >> i know you're strong after everything you've been through, shout out to amanda berry, too! make sure we get that in! [ cheers and applause ] that's how you tell the pulse of the city by the people that appreciate it. >> berry appeared with her sister. while she didn't speak, she smiled and danced at the annual
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roverfest. tonight, nelly has a new album called "mo," and he's here for his first int ert view since the concert. i appreciate you taking the time. what struck you the most about amanda berry? >> well, what stuck with me the most, first of all, that she had a smile on her face, you know, that's one of the most impressive things to me, considering everything that she had been through. you know, for me to be kind of, like, the first situation that, you know, that she was involved in herself in as far as being out in public, i thought, wow, that was special. >> you know, just looking there at the video, nelly, of her on stage, you know, she looked happy. she looked comfortable. she looked totally normal. and when people think about what she was going -- what she went through and none of us can even imagine the horror, you know, what went through your mind when you saw that and you saw sort of the power of what you do and what it was doing to her.
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>> right. i mean, that's -- that was one of the most amazing parts, again. i didn't know that this was, you know, her first appearance publicly since the situation, till, you know, later on after, because we really didn't think nothing of it at the time. i mean, we met her backstage. we took pictures, we hugged. you know, and everything. and it was, like, yo, you guys want to join me, you know, on the side of the stage and all of that, you're more than welcome. and they did. you know, just bringing her up to show her some love. again, it was just a moment of, yo, you know, we're here, i just wanted to say, yo, how inspired i am by your courage and everything. and i would be honored if, you know, you came up here and, you know, sung "just a dream" with me. she expressed she was a nelly fan. i was, like, whoa. you know, considering she hadn't been -- it's been, like, ten years, so that was dope. >> all right. it must have been a pret tin credible thing. nelly, i have to ask you one
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question, though, before you go. just, obviously, i know you sang a really nice song for her. and you have this special moment. but, you know, rappers like you, you know, have been criticized, right, for some of the songs, people say some of your lyric objectify, one of the songs, it's getting hot in here, i want to take my clothes off. you talk about the f word with models in some of your songs. when you see her and what a difference you're making in her life, that you were able to have this impact. do you ever think twice about the lyrics? >> never, never. because that's what music is, it's a creative expression. and sometimes i'm feeling like hot in here, and other times i'm feeling like the way we were feeling that day. and that's what music is. you know, it's artistic. you know, it's emotion, and it's all kind of emotions that you go through during life. so for you to just say you make music just one way is to say, well, so, you know, every day
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you're feeling the same way? that's impossible. we express several different personalities through our music, and as an artist, i think, as a genuine artist, i think you're allowed to do that. >> all right. well, nelly, thank you very much. we appreciate your time. >> no problem. thank you. >> all right. thanks to nelly. i want to bring in psychiatrist dr. charles sophie. he was here with us when the story broke in early may, and he's now here to talk about, you know, amanda's recovery and the other girls, as well. and now, dr. sophie, when you see amanda berry there with nelly having such a fun time, you know, as he said -- she said, look, i'm a nelly fan, you know, one of the songs she knew and knew every word to, you know, was a song that was -- that he had recorded while she was in captivity. what do you make of this? >> well, i think it's a wonderful thing that she can find within herself the ability to stand up in front of a lot of people. she can access joy in herself and some happiness, distract herself. but i also think we need to be
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careful, because underneath all of this is the framework of a lot of trauma. >> and let me just show there's some video of her when she came out later and she was dancing. we don't know who she was with. but some -- a young man that she knew, very comfortable with, kissing her on the neck. we have that video. and i think our viewers may have noticed it a moment ago, i was playing it while nelly was talking. what do you make of that? this is the video here. i don't know if you can see it. the man in the blue and white-striped shirt kissing her, and if she is moving on with her life, is that a good thing? >> it's definitely something that is a positive step for her, as long as it's built within the framework of her treatment. because to go out and experience life is a wonderful thing, but she needs to make sure she's bringing it back to be able to discuss it so that her judgment and her decisions are made from a sound place, not from a traumatic framework. >> and, dr. sophy, one more question, amanda berry out in the public, and having this moment which seems to be a special and a good thing. her fellow captive, though, gina
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dejesus, has been reserved. i'll play them very quickly and tell you something that gina dejesus just did. >> i want to thank everyone who has helped me and my family, through this entire ordeal. everyone who has been there to support us has been a blessing to have such an outpouring of love and kindness. >> i would say thank you for support. >> a local affiliate visited gina dejesus and her mother and asked them about six-foot privacy fence that she's had put in. and she said, look, i really wanted it. it meant a lot to me. that's a direct quote from her. what does it say to you that she wants that? >> well, i think it's a good thing that she can access empathy, sympathy, thanking others, with you she wants privacy, because that's a smart thing to do, to be able to make a judgment that i can't be out there full force. i need time to integrate myself, slow steps to a bigger picture. >> all right. well, thank you very much. appreciate it, dr. sophy. >> thank you. still to come, one of the
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and we're back with tonight's "outer circle," where we reach out to our sources. we begin with egypt, with the ouster of morsi aren't slowing down. violent clashes in cairo this weekend led to dozens being killed or injured, and some are saying it's likely to get worse before it gets better. rez za is there tonight. and what are you seeing? >> reporter: erin, tension has been escalating for days now in this conflict. we're on one side, you have the military-backed interim government. on the other side, the muslim brotherhood and supporters of muhammad morsi. the two sides have been in a deadlock. the violence is escalating on the streets. over the weekend, more than 70 killed in what was the deadliest day of clashing -- clashes dating back to the 2011 revolution. there are more signs that a possible crackdown is coming against the brotherhood, but today, a glimmer of hope with the arrival of the european union's foreign policy chief katherine ashton. she'll be meeting with
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authorities, and also allowed to meet with mr. morsi, the former president. many eager to see if she can play the role of mediator in this conflict. erin? >> all right, reza, thank you. and now to france where a robber made off with close to $136 million in precious jewels, a number that, by the way, surged stratospherically, exponentially, algorithmically, whatever word you want to use, in cannes. erin, how is the thief able to pull this off? >> reporter: well, erin, it was 11:30 on sunday when people had gathered here at the carlton hotel to look at the diamond exhibition, when all of a sudden a man with a space-covered head in a cap walked into the hotel carrying a semiautomatic weapon and threatened to shoot both the exhibiters and the guests before walking out with what prosecutors now say is over $100 million worth of jewelry. now, there was security present at the time. prosecutors say that security
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was unarmed. plenty of questions remain as to how this could have happened, why the necessary security was not in place to protect the jewelry and what is looking like one of the biggest gem thefts in contemporary european history. erin? >> all right, thanks to erin. and now, let's check in with anderson cooper with a look at "ac 360" on a monday. >> keeping an honest report, drew griffin looking for shady rehab clinics in california, clinics that file bogus claims for phantom patients, and guess what, all of us are paying the bills. details on that. plus, his son has been called a whistle-blower by some, a trader by others. mr. snowden joins us to talk about edward snowden. he says the american people do not know the whole truth. we'll ask him to fill in the blanks. and more on the fbi's biggest child prostitution sting to date. 150 arrests made, more than 100 children rescued. we'll speak to child safety advocate john walsh about what needs to be done to put a stop to the crimes in the future.
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and a lot more at the top of the hour. >> all right, anderson, see new a few minutes. and now, tweeting someone's dying moment. over the past few days, npr host scott simon has the tweets to his 1.2 million followers are heartwarming and sad. for instance, when she asked for my help last night, we locked eyes, she calmed down. a look of love that surpasses understanding. a very emotional and public farewell. has this changed what's private forever or are some things too personal to share? hearing is the last sense to go. so i sing and joke. i have so much resecond for scott simon. he does a wonderful job.
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are these moments too personal to share with 1.2 million people. >> it all depends. if you are tweeting you miss what the person said. i talked to my sister and brother in all who are psychologists. it can make you feel better and be cathartic at the same time. >> stephanie, what do you think? >> i don't know if this is. i don't know if it's generational? my mom is 90, and she refuses to get a computer. she calls my brother's computer bill's machine if i want to send her something. i lost my dad many years ago, but i just think that there is something that's happening. i went on vacation with a friend and i said, roland, we haven't made eye contact for three days,
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please put your iphone down. i'm just saying for me. i'm not judging him. i just think there's something personal about being in the moment. >> it is this moment in a sense that we could see a change that things that we have always perceived to be deeply personal and private may not be. >> it's always interesting because it's generational. scott simon, one of the things i'm concerned about is how people -- stephanie makes an excellent point. what's going to happen when you age, having grown up with this technology and having this technology mediate with your most intimate personal moments. the idea of being distracted from having robust exchanges in the moment with people. basically, we have these machines that give you access to the most stimulating, most entertaining content from
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competing with talking to your friend, talking about your day with your parents over dinner. these basic things that build connections. when you're competing with nellie and other people, and an independent variety of music and video, versus those personal relationships, what happens to you over time. i think that's something we ought to be concerned about that? >> stephanie before she passed away, farrah fawcett's diary wa turned into a documentary, farrah's story. >> i was thinking, how much i would miss the rain sometimes. i wonder whether i would be able to experience it from heaven. >> the new york times at the time viewed that and said, it was awful because it was an exploitative portrait of a celeb
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ritty's fight with cancer. >> maybe it is generational. i would be really uncomfortable sharing my loved one's private moments like that, or deaths with the world. again you can i have talked about things later on my radio show. i guess maybe i can't understand how you could do it when you're in the middle of a loved one dying. that would be hard for me. >> i think that's part of his healing, he's coping with a difficult thing. he's sharing with his friends. his twitter followers to him are not just people in cyberspace, they are able to help him cope with this. >> thank you. and everyone please let us know what you think. whether it would be too personal. there's something fishy about the latest insider trading scandal. and we're not talking about the tuna. the postal service is critical to our economy.
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every night we take a look outside the day's top stories for what we call the outfront outtake. tonight, insider trading is on the docket. it's been an ugly part of the american stock market for decades and probably human trading for decades. on thursday, federal prosecutors announced a five count criminal indictment against a major money management firm. the investigation has already ensnared eight existing or former employees, six of them
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have pleaded guilty. and yet there's one name conspicuously absent from the indictment. steven a. cohen, the sac capital, founder and owner. he's earned about $9 billion since starting the company, apparently $6 million a year. he's the guy in charge, it's his name on the door. yet, despite trying and trying and trying, they did not find a way to personally name him in any of the charges. sec employs about 1,000 people, and the feds can't figure out how to tell if cohen is a participant or a bad manager. he's safe from criminal prosecution despite being the head of a company where insider trading was quoting the government on a scale without known precedent in the hedge fund industry. that is saying something, people. that is the federal government's idea about insider trading. just two days after the charges were filed against the company. steven a. cohen himself threw a
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huge party, a lavish affair at his hamptons home this weekend was attended by a few dozen people who dined on tuna. if the people running the companies under investigation don't take the investigation seriously, why should we? "ac 360" starts right now. >> erin, thanks. a special keeping them honest report on a ripoff that is simply stunning, shady rehab clinics filing bogus claims from phantom patients and you are paying for it. >> later, it's called the largest ever child sex bust. 105 children recovered, we'll he take you inside and talk to john walsh. right where hitchcock filmed "to catch a thief" they're trying to catch a real one. a really big one. whoever walked in and